Re: [c-nsp] Leaked Video or Not (Linux and Cisco for internal Sales folks)

[Tails Pipes]

No, things changed there as well. Lookup merchant sillicon, and revise this
post every 6 months. have you heard of Barefoot networks? The days of ASICs
from Cisco are gone and we are glad, we tested the P4 DSL (cisco never got
that right with mantel) on Nexus and its wonderful.

The asics you speak of are no longer important or valuable because people
realized that in many networking planets and galaxies, the asic is reflects
the network design, they are related, and specifically for the data center,
the clos fabric design won, and that does not require fancy asics.
I guess your knowledge is out dated a bit. Cisco itself is using those
merchant sillicon ASICs happily. (lookup Chuck's comments on nexus9000,
best selling cisco switch ever)...guess it is a good switch, because bright
box pushed cisco to do that, and if any one on this list can disagree with
me here, i'm up to that challenge.

What i have discovered recently is that things happen in following way.

Your boss or his boss picks a work culture (no one gets fired for buying
IBM/Cisco), that culture (buying the shiny suits) impacts how you do work,
it makes you select vendors (the ones that sends me to vegas every year)
and not the right network design, you select cisco and you are stuck there
for life, because once they tell you how things should work (aka :
certificates), things are worse, now every time you make a new network
purchase (afraid of new CLI ), you will not be able to look the other way
because you just dont know any thing else (and loosing your certificate
value).

I wish the culture would change to, no one got fired for buying closed but
didnt get promoted either. change requires boldness.

https://toolr.io/2018/06/18/stop-abusing-the-word-open/



On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:41 AM,  wrote:

> > Tails Pipes
> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 3:00 PM
> >
> > can you easily answer this question ? why packets are not pushed in
> linux ?
> > is it because of big switch, cumulus, pica8 ?
> >
> > can you push packets in linux without writing code to do that ? who is
> writing
> > that code ?
> >
> > this is supposedly a community effort, something that older generations
> > dont understand.
> >
> If pure linux as NOS has some legs it'll fly regardless of cisco blessing,
> don't worry no single company owns the whole industry.
> Also we can argue that this is only about the OS but in reality it's also
> the quality of apps running on top and the quality of the underlying HW
> that plays a major role.
> The quality of BGP app for instance, or the ability of the forwarding ASIC
> to deliver the stated pps rate even if multiple features are enabled or
> protect high priority traffic even if ASIC is overloaded.
>
>
> Oh and with regards to:
> <  I am sick of having to learn all the cisco specific terms to all sorts
> of different boxes and technologies
> I'd recommend you read all the cisco books on networking to get yourself
> educated on the topic and to get the difference between SW and HW
> forwarding ( -on why packets are not routed in linux)
> And while on that I suggest you read all Stanford university lectures on
> how routers work too, it'll help you understand why Cisco and Juniper ASICs
> are so much more expensive than white-box ASICs.
>
> adam
>
> netconsultings.com
> ::carrier-class solutions for the telecommunications industry::
>
>
>

Re: Comcast

[Zach Bare]

Just an FYI Daniel, it looks like Comcast is experiencing a fairly large
routing issue, at least through parts of the Eastern and Midwestern US.
This is likely the cause.

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On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Daniel Corbe 
wrote:

> Can someone from Comcast contact me off list?
>
> Your customers can’t reach my network right now.
>
>

RE: Comcast

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Comcast is having a global outage at this moment.


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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Corbe
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:53 PM
To: NANOG 
Subject: Comcast

Can someone from Comcast contact me off list?

Your customers can’t reach my network right now.

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Re: [c-nsp] Leaked Video or Not (Linux and Cisco for internal Sales folks)

[Matt Erculiani]

Unfortunately, like many other industry terms, "open" is becoming a
meaningless marketing buzzword much like "cloud", "converged", even
"redundancy" or any other technical term that has had its definition
diluted as time goes on. We're all well aware on the ISP side that it
only takes one Fortune 500 to start using a buzzword incorrectly, then
the rest of the big guys all the way to mom and pop shops around the
world start using it in the same context. Unfortunately I don't see
any end to this trend in sight.

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On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Tails Pipes  wrote:
> No, things changed there as well. Lookup merchant sillicon, and revise this
> post every 6 months. have you heard of Barefoot networks? The days of ASICs
> from Cisco are gone and we are glad, we tested the P4 DSL (cisco never got
> that right with mantel) on Nexus and its wonderful.
>
> The asics you speak of are no longer important or valuable because people
> realized that in many networking planets and galaxies, the asic is reflects
> the network design, they are related, and specifically for the data center,
> the clos fabric design won, and that does not require fancy asics.
> I guess your knowledge is out dated a bit. Cisco itself is using those
> merchant sillicon ASICs happily. (lookup Chuck's comments on nexus9000,
> best selling cisco switch ever)...guess it is a good switch, because bright
> box pushed cisco to do that, and if any one on this list can disagree with
> me here, i'm up to that challenge.
>
> What i have discovered recently is that things happen in following way.
>
> Your boss or his boss picks a work culture (no one gets fired for buying
> IBM/Cisco), that culture (buying the shiny suits) impacts how you do work,
> it makes you select vendors (the ones that sends me to vegas every year)
> and not the right network design, you select cisco and you are stuck there
> for life, because once they tell you how things should work (aka :
> certificates), things are worse, now every time you make a new network
> purchase (afraid of new CLI ), you will not be able to look the other way
> because you just dont know any thing else (and loosing your certificate
> value).
>
> I wish the culture would change to, no one got fired for buying closed but
> didnt get promoted either. change requires boldness.
>
> https://toolr.io/2018/06/18/stop-abusing-the-word-open/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 9:41 AM,  wrote:
>
>> > Tails Pipes
>> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 3:00 PM
>> >
>> > can you easily answer this question ? why packets are not pushed in
>> linux ?
>> > is it because of big switch, cumulus, pica8 ?
>> >
>> > can you push packets in linux without writing code to do that ? who is
>> writing
>> > that code ?
>> >
>> > this is supposedly a community effort, something that older generations
>> > dont understand.
>> >
>> If pure linux as NOS has some legs it'll fly regardless of cisco blessing,
>> don't worry no single company owns the whole industry.
>> Also we can argue that this is only about the OS but in reality it's also
>> the quality of apps running on top and the quality of the underlying HW
>> that plays a major role.
>> The quality of BGP app for instance, or the ability of the forwarding ASIC
>> to deliver the stated pps rate even if multiple features are enabled or
>> protect high priority traffic even if ASIC is overloaded.
>>
>>
>> Oh and with regards to:
>> <  I am sick of having to learn all the cisco specific terms to all sorts
>> of different boxes and technologies
>> I'd recommend you read all the cisco books on networking to get yourself
>> educated on the topic and to get the difference between SW and HW
>> forwarding ( -on why packets are not routed in linux)
>> And while on that I suggest you read all Stanford university lectures on
>> how routers work too, it'll help you understand why Cisco and Juniper ASICs
>> are so much more expensive than white-box ASICs.
>>
>> adam
>>
>> netconsultings.com
>> ::carrier-class solutions for the telecommunications industry::
>>
>>
>>