Re: Moving fibre trunks: interruptions?

2017-09-04 Thread Rod Beck
I agree as an European resident that is varies by country, but my impression is 
that it is a lot less. For example, fiber cuts on the European racetrack 
(London/Paris/Frankfurt/Amsterdam/London) seems to involve buried cable. It may 
just be a difference in regulatory regimes.


- R.



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Subject: Re: Moving fibre trunks: interruptions?

Le 02/09/2017 à 21:25, Baldur Norddahl a écrit :
> That depends on the country. Here in Denmark it is not possible to get
> rights to put up any aerial at all. The cost difference is irrelevant when
> you have no option but to put it in the ground.
>
> Not only is there no new aerial installations here but the old ones are
> taken down. Very little is left by now and in a few years it will all be
> gone. The municipalities want it pretty and wires in the air is ugly.
>
> One advantage however is that buried stuff usually survives storms better.

Right. Here in France it (aerial running along with copper) happens
even close to metropoles (like Paris).
mh
>
> Den 1. sep. 2017 21.53 skrev "Rod Beck" :
>
> I don't think there is virtually any aerial in Europe. So given the cost
> difference why is virtually all fiber buried on this side of the Atlantic?




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