RE: Recommended 10GE ISCSI SAN switch

2015-05-13 Thread Sameer Khosla
If price is a major concern, take a look at the Force10 S2410.  They tend to go 
for under $2k on ebay.  Very basic L2 cut-through low-latency switch.  Only 
drawback is your choice is XFP or CX4 for ports, but if you have server nics 
with CX4 then you are off the races for very little money.

Whatever switch you use, don't forget to adjust MTU to 9k+.

+1 for SSD based storage, if you are using a vmware environment the newer 
versions of vsan support all-flash-arrays, worth taking a look at.

Sk.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matt Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:36 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Recommended 10GE ISCSI SAN switch

We've been using Dell 8024F's for over 2 years now. No problems at all.


On 12/05/2015 23:36, Paul S. wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> We're shortly going to be getting some 10G SANs, and I was wondering 
> what people were using as SAN switches for 10G SANs.
>
> It is my understanding that low buffer sizes make most 'normal' 10G 
> ethernet switches unsuitable for the job.
>
> We're pretty much an exclusive Juniper shop, but are not biased in any 
> way -- best tool for the job is what I've been tasked with to find.
>
> Keeping that in mind, how would something like a EX4550 fare in the 
> role? Are there better devices in the same price range?
>
> Thanks!


Network Solutions blacklisted mail

2015-05-13 Thread Chris Garrett
Has anyone had any luck in getting a clued individual from NS to contact them 
concerning blacklist removal? I am going on four days and still spinning my 
wheels despite multiple contacts claiming it would be handled. 





Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Chuck Church
Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),

Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for Akamai to
verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
162.220.232.0/23. 

Thanks,

Chuck






Re: Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Akamai does not follow BGP perfectly, for many reasons, including BGP 
preferring crappy paths much of the time.

ISPs should email netsupport-...@akamai.com to get help with traffic 
engineering, performance, and other questions. (Or at least that used to be the 
case a year ago.)

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

> On May 13, 2015, at 15:33 , Chuck Church  wrote:
> 
> Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),
> 
>   Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
> we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
> upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for Akamai to
> verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
> 162.220.232.0/23. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 



Re: Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Jake Mertel
Chuck,

Just throwing this out there as a possibility, I've seen similar issues
with other ISPs wherein the root cause was their BGP speaking routers using
a filter set published by (I'm almost certain) Cisco that, among other
things, blocks announcements of any prefix that is smaller then the minimum
prefix size allocated from an RIR for the prefix in question. If you look
at https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html you will see that they now
say "All prefixes have the potential to have a /24 minimum size allocation
issued from them.", but this was not always the case. For example, looking
at the archive.org copy of that page from
https://web.archive.org/web/20140107021136/https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html
on January 7, 2014, the smallest prefix they allocated from 162/8 was a
/22. I did some quick google'ing but was unable to find a copy of the
filter set in question. I poked a few of my colleagues and will  let you
know if I'm able to find a copy for reference.

--Jake

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Chuck Church 
wrote:

> Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),
>
> Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
> we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
> upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for Akamai
> to
> verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
> 162.220.232.0/23.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Akamai does not do this.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

> On May 13, 2015, at 15:42 , Jake Mertel  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> Just throwing this out there as a possibility, I've seen similar issues
> with other ISPs wherein the root cause was their BGP speaking routers using
> a filter set published by (I'm almost certain) Cisco that, among other
> things, blocks announcements of any prefix that is smaller then the minimum
> prefix size allocated from an RIR for the prefix in question. If you look
> at https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html you will see that they now
> say "All prefixes have the potential to have a /24 minimum size allocation
> issued from them.", but this was not always the case. For example, looking
> at the archive.org copy of that page from
> https://web.archive.org/web/20140107021136/https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html
> on January 7, 2014, the smallest prefix they allocated from 162/8 was a
> /22. I did some quick google'ing but was unable to find a copy of the
> filter set in question. I poked a few of my colleagues and will  let you
> know if I'm able to find a copy for reference.
> 
> --Jake
> 
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Chuck Church 
> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),
>> 
>>Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
>> we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
>> upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for Akamai
>> to
>> verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
>> 162.220.232.0/23.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 



Re: Rasberry pi - high density

2015-05-13 Thread Lamar Owen

On 05/11/2015 06:50 PM, Brandon Martin wrote:


8kW/rack is something it seems many a typical computing oriented 
datacenter would be used to dealing with, no?  Formfactor within the 
rack is just a little different which may complicate how you can 
deliver the cooling - might need unusually forceful forced air or a 
water/oil type heat exchanger for the oil immersion method being 
discussed elsewhere in the thread.


You still need giant wires and busses to move 800A worth of current. ...


This thread brings me back to 1985, what with talk of full immersion 
cooling (Fluorinert, anyone?) and hundreds of amps at 5VDC reminds 
me of the Cray-2, which dropped 150-200KW in 6 rack location units of 
space; 2 for the CPU itself, 2 for space, and 2 for the cooling 
waterfall [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cray2.jpeg by referencing 
floor tile space occupied and taking 16 sq ft (four tiles) as one RLU 
].  Each 'stack' of the CPU pulled 2,200A at 5V [source: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray-2#History ].  At those currents you 
use busbar, not wire.  Our low-voltage (120/208V three-phase) switchgear 
here uses 6,000A rated busbar, so it's readily available, if expensive.




Re: Akamai minimum prefix length issue

2015-05-13 Thread Martin Hannigan
Hi Patrick,

Correct answer. No surprise. And yes, netsupport-...@akamai.com is still
the way to go for these types of issues.

Thanks for the help!

Best,

-M<  // AS 20940



On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore 
wrote:

> Akamai does not follow BGP perfectly, for many reasons, including BGP
> preferring crappy paths much of the time.
>
> ISPs should email netsupport-...@akamai.com to get help with traffic
> engineering, performance, and other questions. (Or at least that used to be
> the case a year ago.)
>
> --
> TTFN,
> patrick
>
> > On May 13, 2015, at 15:33 , Chuck Church  wrote:
> >
> > Anyone from Akamai (or who might know),
> >
> >   Having an issue with AS 20940 either not seeing or ignoring a /23
> > we're announcing, and following a /22 to another path.  Other ISPs our
> > upstream peers with see the /23.  I didn't see a looking glass for
> Akamai to
> > verify.  Anyone from Akamai able to help?  Prefix in question is
> > 162.220.232.0/23.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
>
>


Is anyone working on an RFC for standardized maintenance notifications

2015-05-13 Thread Robert Drake
Like the "Automated Copyright Notice System" 
(http://www.acns.net/spec.html) except I don't think they went through 
any official standards body besides their own MPAA, or whatever.


I get circuits from several vendors and get maintenance notifications 
from them all the time.  Each has a different format and each supplies 
different details for their maintenance.  Most of the time there are 
core things that everyone wants and it would be nice if it were 
automatically readable so automation could be performed (i.e., our NOC 
gets the email into our ticketing system. It is recognized as being part 
of an existing maintenance due to maintenance id# (or new, whatever) and 
fields are automatically populated or updated accordingly.


If you're uncomfortable with the phrase "automatically populated 
accordingly" for security reasons then you can replace that with "NOC 
technician verifies all fields are correct and hits update ticket." or 
whatever.


The main fields I think you would need:

1.  Company Name
2.  Maintenance ID
3.  Start Date
4.  Expected length
5.  Circuits impacted (if known or applicable)
6.  Description/Scope of Work (free form)
7.  Ticket Number
8.  Contact



Re: Is anyone working on an RFC for standardized maintenance notifications

2015-05-13 Thread Erik Klavon
Hi Robert,

I'm not aware of an RFC for standardized maintenance notifications.

A group of people are currently working on a NANOG BCOP for
maintenance notifications. Many of the fields you list match those
we've identified as critical for inclusion in any maintenance
notification. Most of the discussion takes place via a group on
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85573849323/ We also
have bi-weekly conference calls. If you (or anyone else) are
interested in participating, contact me off list and I'll get you
caught up on our work so far.

Erik

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Robert Drake  wrote:
> Like the "Automated Copyright Notice System" (http://www.acns.net/spec.html)
> except I don't think they went through any official standards body besides
> their own MPAA, or whatever.
>
> I get circuits from several vendors and get maintenance notifications from
> them all the time.  Each has a different format and each supplies different
> details for their maintenance.  Most of the time there are core things that
> everyone wants and it would be nice if it were automatically readable so
> automation could be performed (i.e., our NOC gets the email into our
> ticketing system. It is recognized as being part of an existing maintenance
> due to maintenance id# (or new, whatever) and fields are automatically
> populated or updated accordingly.
>
> If you're uncomfortable with the phrase "automatically populated
> accordingly" for security reasons then you can replace that with "NOC
> technician verifies all fields are correct and hits update ticket." or
> whatever.
>
> The main fields I think you would need:
>
> 1.  Company Name
> 2.  Maintenance ID
> 3.  Start Date
> 4.  Expected length
> 5.  Circuits impacted (if known or applicable)
> 6.  Description/Scope of Work (free form)
> 7.  Ticket Number
> 8.  Contact
>