Re: Speedtest site accuracy [was: Bandwidth issues in the Sprint network]

2008-04-08 Thread Jeff Shultz


Doug Clements wrote:


We tell our customers to make sure to use the test site on our
network, which will be quite a bit more accurate than some random
location on the internet they might pick.

There's no reason it can't be reasonably accurate, if you care to
address it. We normally get within a few percent of a given line rate
ranging over normal DSL speeds to T1s to DS3s to Fast Ethernet. It's a
very easy and user-understandable way to say "Your T1 is installed,
there's no errors that we see, you're getting about 1.4mbit on the
speed test, have a nice day", or, alternately, "You're getting
95mbit/sec down and only 45mbit/sec up, you probably have a duplex
mixmatch on your newly installed colo server".

--Doug



 Regarding speed test software, what are people running, and what do 
you think of it?


 It was surprisingly hard to find such stuff the last time I looked - 
right now I've got the guy who decide$ looking at the same software that 
http://speedtest.vonage.com appears to be running. Downside is that it 
requires Java.


 The stuff we've got (it was here before I was, 5 years ago) is 
definitely showing it's age - it doesn't even have the capability to do 
upload speed tests, and it's "quick test" while adequate for 1.5mb DSL's 
gets really flaky when you toss a 6 or 8mb/sec DSL at it.


--
Jeff Shultz


Re: Speedtest site accuracy [was: Bandwidth issues in the Sprint network]

2008-04-08 Thread Jeff Shultz


Daniel Senie wrote:

If you go to Speakeasy.net and run their test, the vendor of theirs has 
a logo showing (and clickable). This outfit produces nice-looking speed 
test software.


That said, it just reported my Comcast Business account as getting 
25Mbps down, and 1.4Mbps up, which is pretty unlikely. Clearing the 
browser cache alters the displayed speed considerably, so this is a good 
indication of the usefulness (or lack thereof) of some of this software.


Speakeasy must be good - you're the second person in 5 minutes to 
recommend them.


What I'm looking for is software that we can install locally on our 
backbone so we can offer our customers an accurate and up-to-date 
performance measure of their own DSL circuit - which is anywhere from 
256/256kb to 1024/6.144Mbs at the moment.


We're going fiber-to-the-house over the next 5 years so I expect those 
numbers will continue to rise to the point that problems outside of our 
network will definitely be more of a bottleneck than problems inside our 
network - so I'm looking for a solution that will help us illustrate 
that point to our customers.


--
Jeff Shultz


RE: Speedtest site accuracy [was: Bandwidth issues in the Sprint network]

2008-04-08 Thread Peter Kranz

We used Ookla's solution on our network, they charged a one time fee to add
our logo, etc.. it was not expensive:

http://www.unwiredltd.com/speedtest.php

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
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Subject: Re: Speedtest site accuracy [was: Bandwidth issues in the Sprint
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Daniel Senie wrote:

> If you go to Speakeasy.net and run their test, the vendor of theirs has 
> a logo showing (and clickable). This outfit produces nice-looking speed 
> test software.
> 
> That said, it just reported my Comcast Business account as getting 
> 25Mbps down, and 1.4Mbps up, which is pretty unlikely. Clearing the 
> browser cache alters the displayed speed considerably, so this is a good 
> indication of the usefulness (or lack thereof) of some of this software.

Speakeasy must be good - you're the second person in 5 minutes to 
recommend them.

What I'm looking for is software that we can install locally on our 
backbone so we can offer our customers an accurate and up-to-date 
performance measure of their own DSL circuit - which is anywhere from 
256/256kb to 1024/6.144Mbs at the moment.

We're going fiber-to-the-house over the next 5 years so I expect those 
numbers will continue to rise to the point that problems outside of our 
network will definitely be more of a bottleneck than problems inside our 
network - so I'm looking for a solution that will help us illustrate 
that point to our customers.

-- 
Jeff Shultz



Re: Dubai impound ships suspected in cable damage

2008-04-08 Thread Jeff Shultz


Deepak Jain wrote:


There is no reason to assume these are civilian satellites. Any one of a 
number of affected or interested countries could have provided the 
imagery (or ship information) to Reliance. Its not saying *who* analyzed 
the images. ;)


Then again, how are ship's captains supposed to know *where* they are 
allowed to drop anchor? Is there a "Call before you drop" anchor service 
similar to "call before you dig?"


Deepak


Anchorages are normally VERY clearly marked on maritime navigation charts.

--
Jeff Shultz


Re: Dubai impound ships suspected in cable damage

2008-04-08 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo


Sean Donelan wrote:


Awesome, so could anyone buy a copy of the same images?  Which satellite
do you think happened to be taking images of the area with these ships 
near the time the cables were broken?  Which company is selling that set 
of images?


Wouldn't it be reasonable that, when the break occurred, they used their 
optical time domain reflectometer to compute the approximate location of 
the break, and then just called around for whoever had the best images, 
or who could quickly task the satellite to get an image?


--Patrick


Re: Dubai impound ships suspected in cable damage

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Hannigan

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Patrick Giagnocavo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Sean Donelan wrote:
>
>
> > Awesome, so could anyone buy a copy of the same images?  Which satellite
> > do you think happened to be taking images of the area with these ships
> near the time the cables were broken?  Which company is selling that set of
> images?
> >
>
>  Wouldn't it be reasonable that, when the break occurred, they used their
> optical time domain reflectometer to compute the approximate location of the
> break, and then just called around for whoever had the best images, or who
> could quickly task the satellite to get an image?
>

Cable systems have these capabilities built in. In fact, before the
full break occurred they were highly likely to be receiving event data
indicating that there were problems occurring based on the movement of
the cable.


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