Microsoft building container based datacenter

2008-04-05 Thread Simon Lyall


Just a followup to the previous conversations on power and rack density I
see that Microsoft has announced that one floor of their new Chicago
datacenter will be container based.

Each 40 foot container will house 1,000 to 2,000 systems with between 150
and 220 containers on the first floor.

Main links:

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/Apr/01/microsoft_embraces_data_center_containers.html
http://datacenterlinks.blogspot.com/2008/04/miichael-manos-keynote-at-data-center.html
http://mvdirona.com/jrh/perspectives/2008/04/02/FirstContainerizedDataCenterAnnouncement.aspx

Related link:

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/Apr/04/microsofts_198_megawatts_of_motivation.html




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Re: Inventory and workflow management systems

2008-04-05 Thread Greg VILLAIN


On Apr 4, 2008, at 11:16 PM, vijay gill wrote:
What software solution do people use for inventory management for  
things like riser/conduit drawdown, fiber inventory, physical  
topology store, CLR/DLR, x-connect, contracts, port inventory, etc.
Any experiences in integrating workflow into those packages for work  
orders, modeling, drawdown levels, etc.


/vijay


Seen loads of the running, (Granite's Xpercom which I have used a lot  
in the POS industry and which is a pain, Telcordia which back then was  
known to be even worse...), none of them was worth a dime...
Then I saw that brilliant combination which was Comptel + Visionael,  
it did mass provisioning and inventory systems for a whole national  
DSL unbundling architecture in France. Takes some time and patience to  
mix/tune them together, but once done ...


Greg VILLAIN
Independant Network & Telco Architecture Consultant
+33 6 87 48 66 14





Comcast problems?

2008-04-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin

Anyone know what's going on with Comcast?  From my house, I can reach a
few sites  with TCP (fortunately, that includes my office, so I could
set up a web and email proxy). If I use traceroute, I can get more or
less anywhere. If I use a UDP-based traceroute, I can get responses
back from the first 8 hops. If I use a TCP-based traceroute, I get
nowhere.

The fact that I get different behavior for different protocols makes me
suspect they're having trouble with equipment designed to control p2p
traffic.  Their help phone line simply speaks of an outage.  Service
has come back occasionally, but not for long.  The problem has been
going on since about 6am.

Does anyone have any data?

--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb


Re: Comcast problems?

2008-04-05 Thread Christopher Morrow

On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Steven M. Bellovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  The fact that I get different behavior for different protocols makes me
>  suspect they're having trouble with equipment designed to control p2p
>  traffic.  Their help phone line simply speaks of an outage.  Service
>  has come back occasionally, but not for long.  The problem has been
>  going on since about 6am.
>
>  Does anyone have any data?

wasn't it sandvine last time? did you try calling them as well? All
joking aside, one hopes that these sorts of things show that the 'p2p
control' soutions are far from perfect and far from 'well baked' and
likely still very ill-advised.

-Chris


Re: Comcast problems?

2008-04-05 Thread Ted Fischer


I didn't save any of my Wireshark traces, but this is what I observed 
(I'm behind Charter at home but visiting my brother in NJ - Comcast territory).


All attempts to check my e-mail (neither Charter nor Comcast) showed 
the syns going out but no syn acks coming back.  Then, after a few 
minutes (pop server time outs I guess) I started seeing fins coming 
back from the pop server that matched my connection requests.  Saw 
that occur with various http connection attempts as well.


Of course, the only reason I can send this reply out is that they 
appear to be back up.  Any chance of getting a non-nonsensical RFO 
from someone?


Ted

At 02:16 PM 4/5/2008, you wrote:

On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Steven M. Bellovin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>  The fact that I get different behavior for different protocols makes me
>  suspect they're having trouble with equipment designed to control p2p
>  traffic.  Their help phone line simply speaks of an outage.  Service
>  has come back occasionally, but not for long.  The problem has been
>  going on since about 6am.
>
>  Does anyone have any data?

wasn't it sandvine last time? did you try calling them as well? All
joking aside, one hopes that these sorts of things show that the 'p2p
control' soutions are far from perfect and far from 'well baked' and
likely still very ill-advised.

-Chris




Re: Comcast problems?

2008-04-05 Thread Michael Sinatra


Ted Fischer wrote:


I didn't save any of my Wireshark traces, but this is what I observed 
(I'm behind Charter at home but visiting my brother in NJ - Comcast 
territory).


All attempts to check my e-mail (neither Charter nor Comcast) showed the 
syns going out but no syn acks coming back.  Then, after a few minutes 
(pop server time outs I guess) I started seeing fins coming back from 
the pop server that matched my connection requests.  Saw that occur with 
various http connection attempts as well.


Of course, the only reason I can send this reply out is that they appear 
to be back up.  Any chance of getting a non-nonsensical RFO from someone?


TCP performance on my Comcast connection in the Bay Area was horrible 
last night.  tcpdump showed lost segments, dup acks, etc.  Moreover, the 
UDP traceroute I did showed high packet loss, with outbound traffic from 
my connection draining to ATT (AS7012) immediately upstream.  Today, the 
performance is much better, with traffic draining to Level(3)(AS3356) 
and no ATT in the picture.


michael