Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-02 Thread Nathan Ward


On 2/06/2007, at 4:42 PM, Randy Bush wrote:


the average number of v4 prefixes per AS is ~10, and it's rising.  In
v6, the goal is that every PI site can use a single prefix**, meaning
the v6 routing table will be at least one (and two or even three
eventually) orders of magnitude smaller than the v4 one.


how much of the v4 prefix count is de-aggregation for te or by TWits?
why won't they do this in v6?


See slide 24 of:
http://www.2007.apricot.net/presentation/apia-future-routing/apia- 
future-routing-vince-fuller.pdf

nearby slides are interesting, too.

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Nathan Ward


Code for IPv6 test for content providers (was Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted)

2007-06-02 Thread Nathan Ward


On 30/05/2007, at 10:55 AM, Nathan Ward wrote:

I've got an idea that just fell out of my brain for web content  
providers to get a handle on their 'ipv6-ability' - how many  
eyeballs they would lose by adding www  records.




I've implemented this, with some frills.

Code is at http://www.braintrust.co.nz/ipv6wwwtest/ and is probably  
rough around the edges. I'm not really a JavaScript hacker so it  
probably isn't terribly amazing quality, but it seems to work OK for  
me - I've been running it on several of my websites with a large  
range of user clue+access+OS+browser+ISP as visitors and I've had no  
complaints. The code is running on the page above, too.


The default timeout in the tarball is too high, 1-2 is  
probably adequate.


Please let me know if you use it, or if you do something similar or  
use it for inspiration or whatever.

In addition, I'm sure we'd all love to see any statistics you can share.

Enjoy!

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Nathan Ward



Re: ULA BoF

2007-06-02 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum


On 2-jun-2007, at 1:27, Fred Baker wrote:

But ULAs *do* require router magic. They require a policy to be in  
place that causes them to not be advertised unless the policy is  
overridden, and a policy that doesn't believe them even if they are  
mistakenly advertised.


Well, there is no such thing as an out-of-the-box BGP configuration,  
so that's to be expected.


Although ISPs tend to let packets with RFC 1918 source addresses slip  
out from time to time, they're actually pretty good at rejecting RFC  
1918 routes: currently, route-views.oregon-ix.net doesn't have the  
10.0.0.0, 172.16.0.0 or 192.168.0.0 networks in its BGP table (there  
are two entries for 192.0.2.0, though). So in IPv4 the magic is of  
sufficiently quality.


Re: NAT Multihoming (was:Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted)

2007-06-02 Thread Donald Stahl



There are indeed a few thorny issues with this approach; the largest issue is
that all connectivity becomes DNS-dependent and raw IP addresses (from both
the inside and outside) become virtually useless.  Running servers behind
this scheme, while doable, is difficult.
When an ISP's caching name servers ignore your 3600 TTL and substitute an 
86400 TTL you end up disconnected for ~12 hours instead of ~30 minutes- 
That's unacceptable for a almost any company willing to go through the 
trouble of getting an ASN.


-Don