structure of whole table...

2006-08-11 Thread ravi.karatagi

THANKS ALL for the tremendous response. It is really helping me a
lot



I have another query.



Can the output of the DESCRIBE be stored somewhere ( in file)?

I suppose the DESCRIBE query doesn't return the result set.

Or is there any way to get the structure of whole table?



Regards,

Ravi K






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Re: structure of whole table...

2006-08-11 Thread Chris



Can the output of the DESCRIBE be stored somewhere ( in file)?


You can store it where-ever you like. Mysql stores it in a binary file 
which you can't read (ie it's not like the my.cnf file).



I suppose the DESCRIBE query doesn't return the result set.


What are you after exactly? Using 'explain' doesn't return the results, 
it only shows you what mysql is going to do (whether it will use indexes 
or not for example).



Or is there any way to get the structure of whole table?


show create table 'tablename';

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Re: structure of whole table...

2006-08-11 Thread Duncan Hill
On Friday 11 August 2006 08:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Can the output of the DESCRIBE be stored somewhere ( in file)?

mysql mydb 'describe table' > table.describe.txt ?

> Or is there any way to get the structure of whole table?

show create table?
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Problem with updating table

2006-08-11 Thread wizard007

I have a site with horse racing results and the results table consists of:
Date, Time, Course, Horse, Odds, Result, Profit

I have about 6 months results in there and obviously there are no unique
fields.
Each morning I imprt a new spreadsheet with the days racing selections
without the odds and result field filled in. As the day goes on I use a page
to update the results but when I update a race with horse that has run in
the past it updates the new record and the old record as well. I now have 2
identical records as the data updates has overwritten the old record for the
horses race before.

Any ideas!?!?!?!?
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RE: Problem with updating table

2006-08-11 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
Sounds like you will have to change the structure of your table. I would
add an auto-increment column at the beginning of the row and use that as
the primary key. You can still select on the horse, course etc. like so

SELECT * FROM horse_and_courses WHERE  ORDER BY
new_primary_key DESC LIMIT 1;

This would return you the most recent record. The auto_increment column
would be updated automatically during the import.

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I have a site with horse racing results and the results table consists
of:
Date, Time, Course, Horse, Odds, Result, Profit

I have about 6 months results in there and obviously there are no unique
fields.
Each morning I imprt a new spreadsheet with the days racing selections
without the odds and result field filled in. As the day goes on I use a
page
to update the results but when I update a race with horse that has run
in
the past it updates the new record and the old record as well. I now
have 2
identical records as the data updates has overwritten the old record for
the
horses race before.

Any ideas!?!?!?!?
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mysql naming convention

2006-08-11 Thread Barry

Hello everyone!

I am looking for a standard naming convention for databases.

For example: is it good to use tablenames in column names like:
table => tb_id,tb_text,tb_name

and such.

Probably there is some kind of overall naming convention out there, 
looked on google and such but only found conventions that people 
personally liked but no standards.


Thanks for any help :)

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problem with decimal part

2006-08-11 Thread Jorge Martins

Hi,

I have a client that want's to store in a table the exact number that he 
get's from a file, i've used a DOUBLE data type (MySQL 3.2x), but I have 
the following problem:


If the number is for example 9.0 mysql truncates and only stores 9

I tried to use the (M,D) for example as (6,5) but the problem is that 
mysql stores the number as 9.0 and I don't want that, I want the 
number to be the exact number I read from the file.


Is there any way to fix that? I thought of using a VARCHAR data type. 
What do you think?


Thanks

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Re: mysql naming convention

2006-08-11 Thread Douglas Sims
The example you give is a form of hungarian notation, wherein an  
abbreviation representing the type of the variable is the first part  
of the variable name.  Hungarian notation is not generally considered  
good practice for a variety of reasons; it is usually unnecessary, it  
interferes with the readability of the code, and since there is no  
actual connection between the variable name and the type, thus there  
is no guarantee that the notation will be correct.  (For example, if  
you declare a variable as one type in a C++ program and then later  
change the declaration, the type given in the variable name will then  
be incorrect.  This happens a lot in practice.)


Table names, column names, and database names all exist in distinct  
namespaces in MySQL.  Thus, if you give a table name "Users" there is  
no chance of ambiguity if you also name a column in that or another  
table "users" so there is no advantage to be had by including "tbl"  
in the name.


I like to name tables and columns so as to make the queries read most  
like plain English.  Thus, for example, I might name a table "Users"  
which would contain columns for "username," "address," "telephone," etc.


I got into a long argument with a good programmer I know about  
whether or not to name tables in the singular or plural, e.g. "Users"  
or "User."  I was arguing for the plural and he insisted you should  
never name a table in the plural.  I don't think it really makes much  
difference.



Here is an explanation of how I like to name tables and columns.  I'd  
like to hear what other people think of this.


I don't like to include the table name in the column name.  Thus, in  
the "Users" table you might have columns named "Address," "City," and  
"State" but it isn't good practice to name these columns  
"Users_Address," "Users_City" etc.  If you do it this way your  
queries will look like "SELECT Name, Address, City FROM Users" or  
"SELECT Users.Name, Users.Address FROM ..."  Compare that to "SELECT  
Users.User_Name, Users.User_City FROM ..."


For tables which exist just to represent many-to-many relationships I  
like to name the tables with the names of the tables which are  
related joined by an underscore.  For example, if I have a table  
"Users" and another table "Permissions" (storing perhaps different  
things a user can do, like "insert into accounts" or "update  
transactions") then the table showing which users have which  
permissions I would name "Users_Permissions."


There is a good argument to be made for including the table name in  
the id field, such as "Users.User_ID" instead of "Users.ID."  If the  
key columns are the same you can do a join with simpler syntax:
SELECT Users.Name, Permissions.Name FROM Users LEFT JOIN  
Users_Permissions USING (User_ID) LEFT JOIN Permissions USING  
(Permission_ID);



However, I still prefer to name primary key id columns just "id" and  
then name the corresponding foreign key columns in related tables  
after the singular form of the names of tables they are related to.   
E.g.:


mysql> create table Users (id int(6) unsigned primary key, name  
varchar(32));

Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.08 sec)

mysql> create table Permissions (id int(6) unsigned primary key, name  
varchar(32));

Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.01 sec)

mysql> create table users_permissions (user int(6) unsigned default  
NULL, user int(6) default NULL,  UNIQUE KEY x (user, permission))


SELECT Users.Name, Permissions.Name FROM Users LEFT JOIN  
Users_Permissions ON Users.id=user_permissions.user LEFT JOIN  
Permissions on permissions.id=user_permissions.permission;


If you've never read Donald Knuth going on about Literate Programming  
you might check this out: http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/ 
lp.html


Just like with parenthesis styles, you can name database objects  
whatever you want and it will still work.  But good nomenclature  
makes it all so much more clear.




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On Aug 11, 2006, at 4:08 AM, Barry wrote:


Hello everyone!

I am looking for a standard naming convention for databases.

For example: is it good to use tablenames in column names like:
table => tb_id,tb_text,tb_name

and such.

Probably there is some kind of overall naming convention out there,  
looked on google and such but only found conventions that people  
personally liked but no standards.


Thanks for any help :)

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PHP script to simply manage tables

2006-08-11 Thread thomas Armstrong

Hi.

I've got three tables (users, books and news), and I would like to
crete a web interface
to manage their data (create items, modify items, delete items).

Is there any PHP script to create it automatically (in the same way
phpMyAdmin does, but
with less functionalities)?

Thank you very much.

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Re: mysql naming convention

2006-08-11 Thread John Meyer
Barry wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> 
> I am looking for a standard naming convention for databases.
> 
> For example: is it good to use tablenames in column names like:
> table => tb_id,tb_text,tb_name

I've for a long time been using an uppercase notation for databases.
Probably isn't the best system, but it's what I've worked with so far.
That and naming the primary key on a table with the suffix ID.  Foreign
Keys have the same name as they do on primary keys.   Simple, strong,
ugly, and dignified

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Re: insert/replace question...

2006-08-11 Thread Brent Baisley
REPLACE is a special INSERT/UPDATE combination where you dont specify a filter, it uses the primary key. If no existing record 
exists, it INSERTs a new one, otherwise it UPDATEs an existing one.


What you are looking for is the UPDATE command.
- Original Message - 
From: "bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 12:28 AM
Subject: insert/replace question...



hi.

i have the following that works... in that it does a replace on the row.

replace into appTBL
(appName, universityID)
 values(%s,%s)...

i'm trying to figure out how to do the replace on the row if a given column
is not equal to a certain value..

i've tried...
replace into appTBL
(appName, universityID)
 values(%s,%s)
 where foo != 66

and various combinations but i'm getting an error regarding the 'where'
clause...

i've searched the mysql site, as well as google, and can't quite figure out
how to accomplish this.. is there another, more efficient/better way to
resolve this...

any thoughts/comments...


thanks



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Re: problem with decimal part

2006-08-11 Thread Jo�o C�ndido de Souza Neto
Unfortunately i think you ought to use a varchar string, i read from the 
mysql manual and do not found a numeric type that can have different 
decimals number on each register.

"Jorge Martins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu na mensagem 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi,
>
> I have a client that want's to store in a table the exact number that he 
> get's from a file, i've used a DOUBLE data type (MySQL 3.2x), but I have 
> the following problem:
>
> If the number is for example 9.0 mysql truncates and only stores 9
>
> I tried to use the (M,D) for example as (6,5) but the problem is that 
> mysql stores the number as 9.0 and I don't want that, I want the 
> number to be the exact number I read from the file.
>
> Is there any way to fix that? I thought of using a VARCHAR data type. What 
> do you think?
>
> Thanks
>
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mysql_upgrade returning an error

2006-08-11 Thread Pooly

Hi,

I upgraded one slave server from 4.0.23 to 5.0.24, and when I run
mysql_upgrade I got the following error :
ERROR 1060 (42S21) at line 22: Duplicate column name 'File_priv'
what can I do ?

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Re[2]: insert/replace question...

2006-08-11 Thread Aleksandar Bradaric
Hi,

> REPLACE is a special INSERT/UPDATE combination where you
> dont specify a filter, it uses the primary key. If no existing record
> exists, it INSERTs a new one, otherwise it UPDATEs an existing one.

Just  a quick note - REPLACE does not do any UPDATE. It is a
combination  of  DELETE  (if  the record exists) and INSERT.
Also,  it  does  not have to be the primary key - any UNIQUE
index will do.


Best regards,
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Re: problem with decimal part

2006-08-11 Thread mark addison
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 10:30 +0100, Jorge Martins wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a client that want's to store in a table the exact number that he 
> get's from a file, i've used a DOUBLE data type (MySQL 3.2x), but I have 
> the following problem:
> 
> If the number is for example 9.0 mysql truncates and only stores 9
> 
> I tried to use the (M,D) for example as (6,5) but the problem is that 
> mysql stores the number as 9.0 and I don't want that, I want the 
> number to be the exact number I read from the file.

Technically 9, 9.0 and 9.0 are exacatly the same _number_.

> Is there any way to fix that? I thought of using a VARCHAR data type. 
> What do you think?

Would be the way to go as what your after is the origional string value.
Why do you need exactly the same string?
MySQL is pretty good at auto casting so you can still treat the field as
a number in most cases and see
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/cast-functions.html for functions
to use in the other cases.

mark

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RE: Access mySQL database across Internet

2006-08-11 Thread Neil Tompkins
At the moment our mysql server hosted by an ISP, is updated every second by a 
program running on our local Internet connection from our own office network.  
We have seen no performance issues from our websites hosted by the same ISP 
running our mySQL server.
 
My question is because of this remote update, would we see a problem if we 
queried the mysql database from webpages from another ISP ?

> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:09:29 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Access mySQL database across Internet> CC: 
> mysql@lists.mysql.com> > A good point to make here is that averages are 
> generally a poor> calculation to use when planning for load, since your 
> systems have to> handle the peaks as well as the average.  I know this, 
> fought a number> of fights over it at my last job - don't know why I just 
> quoted you> averages!> > If 99% of your 1000 hits occur between 7:59 AM and 
> 8:01 AM (some sort> of workday login validaton system perhaps ) then 
> obviously you need to> handle as many as 500 a minute or more.  So it may 
> vary from average> quite a bit based on your peak times - that will be good 
> information> to research as part of your planning process.> > Dan> > > On 
> 8/10/06, Dan Buettner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > No, 1000 hits / day isn't 
> terribly high traffic, if you're serving> > pretty normal "stuff".  That 
> averages out to a hit every 32 seconds or> > so during the course of an 8 to 
> 5 business day, a hit every 86 seconds> > or so in a full day.  No problems 
> at that level.> >> > When you get to 1000 hits / minute, then you're talking 
> high traffic!> >> > Dan> >> > On 8/10/06, Neil Tompkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:> > > What would you assume to be high traffic ?  1000 hits per day or 
> more ?> > >> > > > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:05:11 -0500> From: [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Access mySQL database across 
> Internet> CC: mysql@lists.mysql.com> > Neil, in theory, this should work 
> fine, given sufficient bandwidth> between the two sites.> > In practice, if 
> it is a high traffic site generating a large number of> connections, or a 
> high traffic site pulling large pieces of data> (BLOBs or TEXT) from the 
> remote database, you may find performance to> be unacceptable.> > Latency to 
> establish a connection will be slightly higher, on a "busy> internet day" 
> possibly noticeable to end uers.> > You'll have to be sure you open up any 
> firewalls and also MySQL's own> access control to your remote server.> > Some 
> ISPs prohibit connections like this, so check with yours - would> be 
> disappointing for sure to build it all then get a call saying> "cease and 
> desist; read our acceptable use policy".> > Dan> > > On 8/10/06, Neil 
> Tompkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Hi> >> > We have a mysql database 
> hosted with a IIS server on the same network accessible over the Internet.   
> Now we want to set-up a new website with another ISP therefore located in a 
> different datacenter.> >> > Has anyone had any experience of this.  What 
> performance issues would I get if I access the database from the other 
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Re: replace/temp tbl question...

2006-08-11 Thread Dan Buettner

Bruce, seems like this ought to work just fine.

Dan

On 8/11/06, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

hi...

can someone tell me if this should work in theory...

basically, i'm looking to get a bunch of rows from my initial table, based
on the value of a given column/field. i'd then like to do a complete
replace/update on the values in the temp table. finally, i'd like to write
everything in the replaced/updated tmp table back to the orignal tbl...

i'm essentially using 3 steps to get this accomplished...

create tmp table temp
 select a.appName, a.universityID
 from appTBL a
 where a.complete = 0

replace into temp
 (appName, universityID)
  values(%s,%s)

replace into appTBL
 select t.appName, t.universityID
 from temp t


thoughts/comments/etc...

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Re: Access mySQL database across Internet

2006-08-11 Thread Dan Buettner

If it's a simple update, then it's doubful a once-a-second update
would cause any problems.  Databases are built to handle exactly that
sort of work.

On 8/11/06, Neil Tompkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


At the moment our mysql server hosted by an ISP, is updated every second by
a program running on our local Internet connection from our own office
network.  We have seen no performance issues from our websites hosted by the
same ISP running our mySQL server.

 My question is because of this remote update, would we see a problem if we
queried the mysql database from webpages from another ISP ?

 
 > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:09:29 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Access mySQL database across Internet
> CC: mysql@lists.mysql.com
>
> A good point to make here is that averages are generally
a poor
> calculation to use when planning for load, since
your systems have to
> handle the peaks as well as the average.  I know
this, fought a number
> of fights over it at my last job - don't know why I
just quoted you
> averages!
>
> If 99% of your 1000 hits occur between 7:59 AM and 8:01
AM (some sort
> of workday login validaton system perhaps ) then
obviously you need to
> handle as many as 500 a minute or more.  So it may vary
from average
> quite a bit based on your peak times - that will be
good information
> to research as part of your planning process.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 8/10/06, Dan Buettner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, 1000 hits / day isn't terribly high traffic, if
you're serving
> > pretty normal "stuff".  That averages out to a hit
every 32 seconds or
> > so during the course of an 8 to 5 business day, a
hit every 86 seconds
> > or so in a full day.  No problems at that level.
> >
> > When you get to 1000 hits / minute, then you're
talking high traffic!
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On 8/10/06, Neil Tompkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > What would you assume to be high traffic ?  1000
hits per day or more ?
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:05:11 -0500> From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Access
mySQL database across Internet> CC: mysql@lists.mysql.com>
> Neil, in theory, this should work fine,
given sufficient bandwidth> between the
two sites.> > In practice, if it is a high traffic
site generating a large number of>
connections, or a high traffic site pulling
large pieces of data> (BLOBs or TEXT) from
the remote database, you may find performance
to> be unacceptable.> > Latency to
establish a connection will be slightly higher, on
a "busy> internet day" possibly noticeable
to end uers.> > You'll have to be sure you
open up any firewalls and also MySQL's own>
access control to your remote server.> >
Some ISPs prohibit connections like this,
so check with yours - would> be
disappointing for sure to build it all then get a
call saying> "cease and desist; read our
acceptable use policy".> > Dan> > > On
8/10/06, Neil Tompkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>
> Hi> >> > We have a mysql database hosted with
a IIS server on the same network
accessible over the Internet.   Now we want
to set-up a new website with another ISP
therefore located in a different datacenter.>
>> > Has anyone had any experience of
this.  What performance issues would I get if
I access the database from the other
datacenter across the Internet ?> >> > Thanks>
> Neil> >
> >
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Re: PHP script to simply manage tables

2006-08-11 Thread Peter Brawley




Thomas

>Is there any PHP script to create it automatically (in the same
way

>phpMyAdmin does, but
with less functionalities)?


Mebbe theUsual will be helpful
http://www.artfulsoftware.com/theusual.html, code at
http://www.artfulsoftware.com/mysqlbook/sampler/mysqled1_appe.html#theusual_php.

PB

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thomas Armstrong wrote:
Hi.
  
  
I've got three tables (users, books and news), and I would like to
  
crete a web interface
  
to manage their data (create items, modify items, delete items).
  
  
Is there any PHP script to create it automatically (in the same way
  
phpMyAdmin does, but
  
with less functionalities)?
  
  
Thank you very much.
  
  



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Re: problem with decimal part

2006-08-11 Thread Jorge Martins

mark addison wrote:

On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 10:30 +0100, Jorge Martins wrote:
  

Hi,

I have a client that want's to store in a table the exact number that he 
get's from a file, i've used a DOUBLE data type (MySQL 3.2x), but I have 
the following problem:


If the number is for example 9.0 mysql truncates and only stores 9

I tried to use the (M,D) for example as (6,5) but the problem is that 
mysql stores the number as 9.0 and I don't want that, I want the 
number to be the exact number I read from the file.



Technically 9, 9.0 and 9.0 are exacatly the same _number_.
  

Not if you have to count the number os significant digits.
I just think it's strange that in a DOUBLE(6,5) the number 9.0 stores 
9.0, I think that this should only happen if you choose ZEROFILL 
option. 5 should be the max number of digits of the decimal part not the 
mandatory number of digits...or maybe not, i'm not very good at math


  
Is there any way to fix that? I thought of using a VARCHAR data type. 
What do you think?



Would be the way to go as what your after is the origional string value.
Why do you need exactly the same string?
MySQL is pretty good at auto casting so you can still treat the field as
a number in most cases and see
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/cast-functions.html for functions
to use in the other cases.

mark

  

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Re: mysql naming convention

2006-08-11 Thread James Harvard
FWIW a couple of weeks ago I read of a good reason not to use uppercase letters 
in table column names. I can't remember what it was now, but it seemed like 
sense at the time! My personal preference is to always use lowercase and 
separate any words that need it with an underscore. Apart from that I agree 
with Douglas Sims that what is most readable is best.

select user_email, user_address, user_postcode from users where user_id = %d;
# Hmm

select email, address, postcode from users where user_id = %d;
# Less typing and more readable.

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Re: mysql naming convention

2006-08-11 Thread bnewton
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:00:35 +0100, James Harvard wrote
> 
> need it with an underscore. Apart from that I agree with Douglas 
> Sims that what is most readable is best.
> 
> select user_email, user_address, user_postcode from users where 
> user_id = %d;
> # Hmm
> 
> select email, address, postcode from users where user_id = %d;
> # Less typing and more readable.

Good thing nobody is grading readability of the code samples submitted 
here:-)



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RE: Access mySQL database across Internet

2006-08-11 Thread bnewton
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:02:12 +, Neil Tompkins wrote
> At the moment our mysql server hosted by an ISP, is updated every 
> second by a program running on our local Internet connection from 
> our own office network.  We have seen no performance issues from our 
> websites hosted by the same ISP running our mySQL server.

That's fairly impressive, but I hope you mean that you only *consider* 
updating once per second, if actually necessary.  It would be an awful lot 
of wasteful traffic if you actually had the two machines talking every 
seconed to transmit nothing.

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Re: mysql naming convention

2006-08-11 Thread Paul McCullagh


On Aug 11, 2006, at 6:00 PM, James Harvard wrote:

FWIW a couple of weeks ago I read of a good reason not to use 
uppercase letters in table column names. I can't remember what it was 
now, but it seemed like sense at the time! My personal preference is 
to always use lowercase and separate any words that need it with an 
underscore. Apart from that I agree with Douglas Sims that what is 
most readable is best.


select user_email, user_address, user_postcode from users where 
user_id = %d;

# Hmm


Not so readable, I agree, but great when you want to find all 
references to a particular database column in 1000s of lines of code!


I have found this more important than readability (although there is no 
excuse for sloppy formating).



select email, address, postcode from users where user_id = %d;
# Less typing and more readable.


In fact I would go a step further. Call the table tab_users (or 
something similar), so that it is easy to find all references to this 
particular object in your program.


Also make sure structure and class members have unique names (prefix 
the names with a short form of the structure name). For example, think 
of how many fields are called 'flags' in a C program. It is extremely 
useful to be able to quickly find all references to a particular flags 
field.


This also makes a program for outsiders easier to understand because it 
is possible to answer questions like "How is this field/column used?", 
but just doing a global search.


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RE: replace/temp tbl question...

2006-08-11 Thread bruce
thanks for the reply dan...

but is there a better/more efficent way...>

thanks


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Subject: Re: replace/temp tbl question...


Bruce, seems like this ought to work just fine.

Dan

On 8/11/06, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi...
>
> can someone tell me if this should work in theory...
>
> basically, i'm looking to get a bunch of rows from my initial table, based
> on the value of a given column/field. i'd then like to do a complete
> replace/update on the values in the temp table. finally, i'd like to write
> everything in the replaced/updated tmp table back to the orignal tbl...
>
> i'm essentially using 3 steps to get this accomplished...
>
> create tmp table temp
>  select a.appName, a.universityID
>  from appTBL a
>  where a.complete = 0
>
> replace into temp
>  (appName, universityID)
>   values(%s,%s)
>
> replace into appTBL
>  select t.appName, t.universityID
>  from temp t
>
>
> thoughts/comments/etc...
>
> -thanks
>
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Re: replace/temp tbl question...

2006-08-11 Thread Dan Buettner

Well that's a different question!  ;)

Given a set of values, iterating through and updating the values in
the original table would also work fine, eliminating the use of a temp
table.  As to whether that's more efficient - hard to say.  Will
depend on the size and structure of your original table, as well as
the number of entries you're changing.

Updates/replaces of single rows by unique keys are generally fairly
inexpensive and quick.  Doing the select back from the temp table
could cause a table lock for a while, depending on number of rows.
Upside is it could be transaction compliant.

In your case if 'appname' is a unique value and indexed as such, it
should be quick to update one record at a time.  Looping through
hundreds of records and updating each make take time but should keep
the database reasonable responsive for other queries while that is
happening.  Downside is concurrency issues while your updates are
occuring.

Dan



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thanks for the reply dan...

but is there a better/more efficent way...>

thanks


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Subject: Re: replace/temp tbl question...


Bruce, seems like this ought to work just fine.

Dan

On 8/11/06, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi...
>
> can someone tell me if this should work in theory...
>
> basically, i'm looking to get a bunch of rows from my initial table, based
> on the value of a given column/field. i'd then like to do a complete
> replace/update on the values in the temp table. finally, i'd like to write
> everything in the replaced/updated tmp table back to the orignal tbl...
>
> i'm essentially using 3 steps to get this accomplished...
>
> create tmp table temp
>  select a.appName, a.universityID
>  from appTBL a
>  where a.complete = 0
>
> replace into temp
>  (appName, universityID)
>   values(%s,%s)
>
> replace into appTBL
>  select t.appName, t.universityID
>  from temp t
>
>
> thoughts/comments/etc...
>
> -thanks
>
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More than 4 CPUs?

2006-08-11 Thread Ed Pauley II
It seems like I once read that you don't get any performance gains in 
MySQL when you go above 4 CPUs per server. Is this correct? I was 
considering a 4 dual-core CPU machine. Should I go with a 2 dual-core 
machine instead?

Thanks!

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Re: mysql naming convention

2006-08-11 Thread James Harvard
At 7:05 pm +0200 11/8/06, Paul McCullagh wrote:
>Not so readable, I agree, but great when you want to find all references to a 
>particular database column in 1000s of lines of code!

Personally that's not something I've found myself wanting to do, but I can see 
some people may need to do that.

I suppose it just proves that, when it comes to coding practices, Your Mileage 
*Will* Vary.
:-)

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Re: More than 4 CPUs?

2006-08-11 Thread Dan Buettner

Ed, I don't recall that being an issue, though you will likely need to
tweak the values of your my.cnf file (thread_concurrency for example)
to ensure you're taking advantage of all the cores.

This is highly dependent on your situation - but as you increase
number of CPUs, where you may start to see an issue is with the other
subsystems on your host, such as disk and network.  This is really
more an issue if you're serving many different kinds of data from the
same physical server - with lots of CPUs, you have the power to
crunch, but your disks and network may not be able to keep the CPUs
fed.

To generalize (a lot), 8 CPUs and highly varied databases could
introduce this as a problem for you - in this situation I would really
load it up on RAM and have some very fast disks (good guidelines for
database servers anyway).

If you are setting up more of a single-purpose database server, then
you can take advantage of multiple CPUs serving from the same cached
data.

Pretty general but hopefully helpful.

Another thoughts would be to buy 2 smaller physical servers instead of
1 big one, and use MySQL replication for redundancy and backups.
Could do load-balancing as well but that can be tricky.

Dan




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It seems like I once read that you don't get any performance gains in
MySQL when you go above 4 CPUs per server. Is this correct? I was
considering a 4 dual-core CPU machine. Should I go with a 2 dual-core
machine instead?
Thanks!

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Re: More than 4 CPUs?

2006-08-11 Thread Scott Tanner
  From the articles I've read recently, 8 CPU's seems to be the point
where the scalability ratio starts dropping. See the following articles
for examples:

http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/mysql_perf_tune.html
http://corporateclub.mandriva.com/xwiki/bin/download/Main/Technology/mysql-performance-whitepaper.pdf

I know there were some presentations at this years MySQL Conference that
went over this (MySQL Performance Landscape comes to mind). You might be
able to find a presentations on the mysql site.



Regards,
Scott Tanner


On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 14:44 -0400, Ed Pauley II wrote:
> It seems like I once read that you don't get any performance gains in 
> MySQL when you go above 4 CPUs per server. Is this correct? I was 
> considering a 4 dual-core CPU machine. Should I go with a 2 dual-core 
> machine instead?
> Thanks!
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: More than 4 CPUs?

2006-08-11 Thread Michael Loftis



--On August 11, 2006 2:44:34 PM -0400 Ed Pauley II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



It seems like I once read that you don't get any performance gains in
MySQL when you go above 4 CPUs per server. Is this correct? I was
considering a 4 dual-core CPU machine. Should I go with a 2 dual-core
machine instead?
Thanks!



WellThat may not be entirely true with Opteron's but with Intel's it 
is.  IT's not just a MySQL thing, past the 4th CPU there just isn't 
much/any gain because you're bottlenecked on RAM and FSB.  I've not 
personally run such a large MySQL machine but I don't know why there'd be a 
scaling issue assuming your application is designed properly and does it's 
best to not lock tables.  I'd check to make sure you're CPU bound before 
investing in so much CPU.  More likely you're I/O bound.




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Changed?

2006-08-11 Thread MYSQL



Hi,
I recently updated to version 4.1.2 from a slightly 
older one like 4.1.11 or something. But I am now having 
a problem.
 
Before,this query would work fine:
 
Select distinctrow * from mytable order by 
mydatecolumn.
 
mydatecolumn is a column of type date.
 
This used to return the records in order of date, 
as it should. After the update however, it now returns them in random 
order.
If i use a int type column to order by, then it 
works fine, it seems ony the date columns will no longer work.
 
If i take distinctrow out of the query then it 
should work, but i have way to much to change to do that, and i still need to be 
able to select distinct rows when making a join.
 
Why does it no longer work?
 
Thanks.
 
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Re: Can a row be refered using row number?

2006-08-11 Thread Andrew Kreps

The reason for this is probably because the original poster inherited
a database without a primary key, and now needs to make edits to it.
That happened to me with Oracle once, and I was lucky enough to be
able to use Oracle's rowid, which is a unique reference to the row
that is independent of the primary key.

Unfortunately, MySQL has no such allowance.  As others have stated,
the best way to accomplish this is to add a primary key to the table,
and hope you don't break any code downstream.  It may be worth a look
at the table description to make sure one doesn't already exist.


On 8/10/06, Bartis, Robert M (Bob) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Why would you want to do this? As data moves around within the table the 
updates will be in error. Wouldn't it be easier to assign a unique key to each 
row, search for the key or unique set of information and update the resulting 
row?

Bob



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replace question...

2006-08-11 Thread bruce
hi...

i've got an issue that i can't figure out... i'm trying to do a replace,
where i only replace information from one tbl, into the targeted tbl, if the
targeted tbl 'valid' item = 0;

if the tbls are:

fromTBL
  cat
  dog
  mouse

tgtTBL
  cat
  dog
  mouse
  valid


data from external app (fromTBL):
foo1 = ['a1','b1','c1']
foo2 = ['a2','b2','c2']
foo3 = ['a3','b3','c3']
foo4 = ['a4','b4','c4']
foo5 = ['a5','b5','51']

data in the db/tbl (tgtTBL):
db1 = ['a1','b1','c1',1]
db2 = ['a2','b2','c2',0]
db3 = ['a5','b5','51',1]

foo represents the rows from the app. db represents the rows in the tbl.

so the foo rows may or may not be in the db. the idea is to be able to do a
'replace' for the foo rows and to replace those who have a valid==0, and to
insert any foo that isn't already in the tbl. the db/tbl is setup to
automatically set valid=0

so if there's a way to create a list of the foo lists, and then to do a
large replace using the executemany, then i could possibly do this in one
step...

i've tried to do this:
rSQL = """replace into trgtTBL (cat, dog)
  select t.cat, t.dog
  from fromTBL t, trgtTBL
  where trgtTBL.valid = 0"""

this approach should get all the rows of the fromTBL, and insert/replace
them into the trgtTBL where the 'valid' item is 0... or at least that's what
i'm trying to accomplish.

this however, seems to update the rows regardless of the value of 'valid'

there appears to be something subtle that i'm missing.

any help would be seriously appreciated.

thanks

-bruce


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RE: PHP script to simply manage tables

2006-08-11 Thread Daevid Vincent
I know you asked for PHP, but you might look into Ruby on Rails. 'scaffold'
can make a whole lot of stuff like that almost trivial...

http://www.rubyonrails.org/

DÆVID  

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> Hi.
> 
> I've got three tables (users, books and news), and I would like to
> crete a web interface
> to manage their data (create items, modify items, delete items).
> 
> Is there any PHP script to create it automatically (in the same way
> phpMyAdmin does, but
> with less functionalities)?
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Re: replace question...

2006-08-11 Thread Dan Buettner

Bruce, looks like you're missing join criteria, and so you're
selecting a Cartesian product into your trgtTBL ... this this on for
size:

replace into trgtTBL (cat, dog)
select t.cat, t.dog
from fromTBL t, trgtTBL
where trgtTBL.valid = 0
AND t.cat = trgtTBL.cat AND t.dog = trgtTBL.dog

Dan

On 8/11/06, bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

hi...

i've got an issue that i can't figure out... i'm trying to do a replace,
where i only replace information from one tbl, into the targeted tbl, if the
targeted tbl 'valid' item = 0;

if the tbls are:

fromTBL
  cat
  dog
  mouse

tgtTBL
  cat
  dog
  mouse
  valid


data from external app (fromTBL):
foo1 = ['a1','b1','c1']
foo2 = ['a2','b2','c2']
foo3 = ['a3','b3','c3']
foo4 = ['a4','b4','c4']
foo5 = ['a5','b5','51']

data in the db/tbl (tgtTBL):
db1 = ['a1','b1','c1',1]
db2 = ['a2','b2','c2',0]
db3 = ['a5','b5','51',1]

foo represents the rows from the app. db represents the rows in the tbl.

so the foo rows may or may not be in the db. the idea is to be able to do a
'replace' for the foo rows and to replace those who have a valid==0, and to
insert any foo that isn't already in the tbl. the db/tbl is setup to
automatically set valid=0

so if there's a way to create a list of the foo lists, and then to do a
large replace using the executemany, then i could possibly do this in one
step...

i've tried to do this:
rSQL = """replace into trgtTBL (cat, dog)
  select t.cat, t.dog
  from fromTBL t, trgtTBL
  where trgtTBL.valid = 0"""

this approach should get all the rows of the fromTBL, and insert/replace
them into the trgtTBL where the 'valid' item is 0... or at least that's what
i'm trying to accomplish.

this however, seems to update the rows regardless of the value of 'valid'

there appears to be something subtle that i'm missing.

any help would be seriously appreciated.

thanks

-bruce


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