Re: Woodnotes Guide to Mutt Email Client
Randall Wood wrote: ...back in 2006... :) > I'm happy to announce the publication of a manual I've been working on > for a long time. It's the Woodnotes Guide to the Mutt Email Client (37 > pages) and is available in PDF and HTML. The idea was to present mutt's > capabilities and strengths, and go through the different configuration > tasks necessary to use mutt effectively. It's not comprehensive in any > way (mutt.org exists to fill that niche) but I think this guide is > accessible and well thought out. > > You can find it here: http://therandymon.com/content/view/42/79/ ... which is now: http://therandymon.com/index.php?/archives/198-Woodnotes-Guide-to-the-Mutt-Email-Client.html#extended since i was wandering around looking i thought i would post a refreshed link. as i have not read it through yet it should be interesting to go along with everything else. ant
Re: again on mutt "sasl" problem with isp
M. Fioretti wrote: ... what does a direct connection attempt with nc (or other network tool) give? ant
Re: Setting a base-dir by account?
Erik Christiansen wrote: >Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: >> Stupid me. I set folder=/home/user/.mail in each account instead of the >> folder of the account. Damn I am stupid. > > You are very hard on yourself. We do not in English have a single word > for the German "Vorführungseffekt" (demonstration effect), which > normally describes a process which works fine when you test it, but > crashes as soon as you demonstrate it to management (whether job or > domestic), but can all vouch for the "send button effect", in which the > answer to our question dawns in the seconds after posting. > > One trick is to describe what one has tried, and then everything one > might consider trying. More often than not, the message is then never > sent. But sometimes you do have to really hit send for inspiration to > fire. That seems to be a law of nature. i now know that when i'm not making progress on figuring out a bug it is often a good idea to go do something completely different. this switches the brain from focussing on a tiny issue and lets the brain work on the problem from a more wider perspective (allowing the associative elements of the brain to work together to arrive at the solution from the sides). i learned this from when i was in college and we were allowed to check out a remote batch site over- night and through the weekends, but we could not get back in once we left. many times i would get stuck on a bug and then decide to finally leave. the sound of the click of the door locking behind me was often the time when the answer would hit. ant
Re: Problem with password
Rainer Sokoll wrote: ... > I have a weird problem: I have an $ sign in my imap account=E2=80=99s = > password, lets say word1$word2. > Whatever I put in imap_pass - it does not work. With debugging at level = > 5, I see: > > set imap_pass =3D word1$word2 -> word1 #I understand this > set imap_pass =3D word1\$word2 -> word1 > set imap_pass =3D "word1\$word2=E2=80=9C -> word1 > set imap_pass =3D 'word1\$word2=E2=80=98 -> word1\\ #Really! > set imap_pass =3D 'word1$word2=E2=80=98 -> word1 > > But it worked before, with "word1\$word2=E2=80=9C. I wanted to add a = > second IMAP account, and therefore, I moved imap_pass away from = > ~/.muttrc to another file and sourced it in muttrc. > > Mutt 1.5.23 (2014-03-12) > > I am pulling my hair out=E2=80=A6 >= > https://zuttobenkyou.wordpress.com/2010/11/05/mutt-multiple-gmail-imap-set= > up/ (three backslashes before $) does not work either. > Any hint is appreciated, > > Rainer if you somehow sourced or interpreted it during the move then that likely stripped some of the protecting characters (or did you cut and paste?). without seeing the exact file i'm not going to be able to interpret your strings above. you may have left out something important and i can't make sense of things like: > set imap_pass =3D 'word1\$word2=E2=80=98 -> word1\\ #Really! i.e. i see no closing quote character and that may be affecting other stuff later... ant
Re: Problem with password
David Champion wrote: > ant wrote: no need to Cc me, i'm subscribed via gmane . ... >> without seeing the exact file i'm not going to be >> able to interpret your strings above. you may have >> left out something important and i can't make sense >> of things like: >> >> > set imap_pass =3D 'word1\$word2=E2=80=98 -> word1\\ #Really! >> >> i.e. i see no closing quote character and that may be >> affecting other stuff later... > > Rainer's mail contains quoted-printable-encoded unicode "smart quotes", > which are usually not very smart. Ant's mutt, because it doesn't > understand unicode, is leaving them encoded as =E2=80=98 and such. yep, that is why i suspect i'm seeing a cut and paste introduced change or some other environmental effect. > Rainer, this doesn't happen for me. This test: > > cat >>muttrc.test < set imap_pass = 'abc$xyz' > push ":set ?imap_pass" > EOF > mutt -D -F muttrc.test | egrep imap_pass= > > ... does what you'd expect: prints "imap_pass="abc$xyz"' on my screen. > > I haven't tested against an IMAP server, but this shows what I want to see: > >:set ?imap_pass > > Does your muttrc contain actual unicode smart quotes or are those just > an artifact of pasting into Apple Mail? They could cause unforeseen > results in mutt's parser. *nods* ant
any conversion worries?
i'm switching to a newer machine (at last) in the near future. so going from 32 to 64 bit based system. does mutt do anything different with messages and file system layout or encoding? i'm not doing any encryption or anything other than storing files in the Maildir directories/subdirectories. my guess is that all should be ok, but figured i could ask the experts. :) thanks! :) ant
Re: Quote multiple messages in new message
steve wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to create a new message containing quotations of others > messages (in order to avoid copy-pasting). I tried to tag some messages > with T then type ;m but this create an empty new message. I've searched > the web with many different key words but failed to find a solution. > > Help would be highly appreciated. tag messages, use ;r adjust to and subject line edit send hope this helps, ant
Re: any conversion worries?
Fred Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 04:39:37PM -0500, ant wrote: >> i'm switching to a newer machine (at last) in the >> near future. >> >> so going from 32 to 64 bit based system. >> >> does mutt do anything different with messages and >> file system layout or encoding? >> >> i'm not doing any encryption or anything other than >> storing files in the Maildir directories/subdirectories. >> >> my guess is that all should be ok, but figured i >> could ask the experts. :) > > Not in my experience! ok, thanks to both of you for the replies! ant
Re: mutt manual: i have bad startings into learning mutt
kalle wrote: > hello, > > In the manual v.1.9.2, chapter "2.1 Index" it says > > "The index is the screen that you usually see first when you start Mutt. > It gives an overview over your emails in the currently opened mailbox." > > The problem is: there are no mails to see, because there is no mailbox > of mine open and I don't know how to do this. > > > It is the third time already that I try to learn mutt but having no > mails to start with, not knowing what is meant by a 'mailbox' and how to > administrate it, even when reading in the newbie manual not getting to a > point. > > I usually use thunderbird and thus already have some experience with > e-mail, but what I got from trying to learn mutt is just depressing for me. sorry for your troubles and frustration, but there are things we'd need to know to help you further. what type of set up do you have? how are you running mutt? do you get your mail through your ISP or through some other provider? in my case i run linux and use mutt from a terminal aka text type screen. to get my e-mail from the remote place where it is stored for me i have to use a program which goes and gets it and puts it on my local machine for my own reading. to send e-mail i also had to configure mutt to do that too. it can take some time to get through the various steps but some tools can help there. the debug option when running mutt is one of them. songbird
Re: any conversion worries?
ant wrote: > i'm switching to a newer machine (at last) in the > near future. ... happened and i'm a happy camper to have finally made it into the modern world. :) ant
yuck == when reply-to looks like "X" instead of "Name"
a certain e-mail provider does this (a more complete example is at the end of this query). the From header is correct. so what i'm looking for is a message hook which redoes the Reply-To: header before the message gets shown to me and it somehow magically scans header, saves From address and format and then if it finds out that the message has one of those yucky Reply-Tos i want it to fix it using the saved From address. otherwise it should leave the Reply-To: header alone. in matching patterns i see no Reply-To: character so it looks like i have to create this from the more general case of using the entire headers character. as i've been reading through documentation and searching for quite a while already i thought i would just ask as perhaps someone has already done this but google isn't showing me any love on this one and my brain cells are now mush so i will ask and check later to see if anyone has an obvious reply. Example: = Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 21:26:41 + (UTC) From: Joe Smith Reply-To: "joesm...@example.com" To: me Message-ID: <1...@mail.someotherexample.com> ... Subject: this is borked... = Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 21:26:41 + (UTC) From: Joe Smith Reply-To: Joe Smith To: me Message-ID: <1...@mail.someotherexample.com> ... Subject: this is unborked... = thank you, ant
Re: Ask for which account to send email from?
Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Hi, > > I have been using mutt for all my emailing for a couple of years now. I have m ultiple accounts, and the way I get this resolved is that I have different folde rs where different accounts are used (all configured in my .muttrc). This works at least sort of reasonably, except when I have to forward or send an email (usi ng an account) to something else that is on a different account. I am not sure h ow to handle this, and would like to have ideas, but at the very least, I wonder if I can get a prompt asking which account I should send my email from. Ideally , if I choose an account (email address), then that account should get picked. > > Any suggestions, as to how I should handle this? > > Many thanks for your time, and help! i use a package from debian which is called muttprofile and it lets me pick which user i want to use as default until i change it. i'm not sure what distribution or setup you are using but perhaps it could be adapted... ant