Re: How to be warned about non-existent aliases?
On 26Apr2017 15:07, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 02:34:56PM -0400, Ed Blackman wrote: On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:16:05AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Yes, it's a problem I have with mutt too. For example I'm subscribed > to a list called uk-rid...@the-hug.net which is aliased to uk-r, or is > it ukr, or alias uk-riders uk-rid...@the-hug.net # remembering is hard, aliases are cheap alias uk-r uk-riders alias ukr uk-riders alias ukriders uk-riders Yes, but I belong to 60 or more lists, it would get bit wordy! [~/rc/mutt(hg:default)]fleet*> wc aliases-auto 18662 76167 1125266 aliases-auto Mwahahaha! Cheers, Cameron Simpson George, discussing a patent and prior art: "Look, this publication has a date, the patent has a priority date, can't you just compare them?" Paul Sutcliffe: "Not unless you're a lawyer."
Re: How to tell GUI MUAs to show message in a fixed font?
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:54:45PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2017-04-26, Matthias Apitz wrote:
El día miércoles, abril 26, 2017 a las 07:18:30p. m. +, Grant Edwards
escribió:
> Why should a sender of txt mail be worried about how Gmail or any other
> MUA is rendering a txt mail? Isn't this the responsibility of the user
> of the other MUA to configure it (the font) correctly?
When I send an e-mail it is because I have a desire to convey some
sort of information to the recipient. Sending an email that the user
will find illegible does not accomplish that goal.
Any normal text mail will be readable, even with non-fixed fonts;
perhaps what you want is
What I want is mainly to be able to include small tables of data.
(when I see, for example, your signature) give your text some
structure in the layout, like tables etc. which is not what text is
for. You should use any formatting language, like HTML or Latex or
groff.
OK, so how does one do that within mutt?
I would suggest that the most prudent approach is to use a lightweight
markup language (LML). LMLs tend to be designed such that, while they
CAN be rendered into a presentation form, the source code is also
(relatively) legible.
So, let's say I wanted to write something in bold. In HTML that could be
bold\textbf{bold}. But in markdown, it's simply **bold**.
A good LML would have a MIME type associated with it (I see that
markdown does, but reStructuredText doesn't, for example), so it can
either be viewed (as source) in the pager or rendered (as presentation
form) by a mailcap entry.
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Re: How to be warned about non-existent aliases?
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:42:17PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > As I have edit_headers set, and always enter destinations in the editor, > there is no possibility of tab-completion in mutt, for semi-manual > checking. (Though I could scrape the aliases from .muttrc with a few > lines of awk, to generate a private dictionary for vim, and then use > spellchecking to flag bung aliases. Thus a quick hack is to hit zg on > any good alias which fails spellchecking, to add it to the private OK > spell-list.) Thanks for this idea! (although it's slightly hacky again :)) I don't spellcheck all messages though -- and there's also the issue of alias typos which would happen to be an English word. > Anyway, +1 for accepting the need for aliases for local destinations, as > the price for fumble checking in mutt. I think ideally this should be an option, so people who do write to local destinations and don't use aliases (or don't mind the typos) are not bothered. Best, -- Antoine Amarilli signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How to tell GUI MUAs to show message in a fixed font?
On 2017-04-27, Darac Marjal wrote:
>
>>OK, so how does one do that within mutt?
>
> I would suggest that the most prudent approach is to use a lightweight
> markup language (LML). LMLs tend to be designed such that, while they
> CAN be rendered into a presentation form, the source code is also
> (relatively) legible.
>
> So, let's say I wanted to write something in bold. In HTML that could be
>bold \textbf{bold}. But in markdown, it's simply **bold**.
Yes, I've been using Tex/LaTeX for 25+ years, various roff flavors for
30+ years, as well as asciidoc, markdown, and re-strucutred text for
not-quite-as-many years.
> A good LML would have a MIME type associated with it (I see that
> markdown does, but reStructuredText doesn't, for example), so it can
> either be viewed (as source) in the pager or rendered (as presentation
> form) by a mailcap entry.
The question was how to do it _within_ _mutt_ instead of preparing an
HTML or PDF file externally and attaching it.
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Re: How to tell GUI MUAs to show message in a fixed font?
* Grant Edwards [04-27-17 11:21]:
> On 2017-04-27, Darac Marjal wrote:
> >
> >>OK, so how does one do that within mutt?
> >
> > I would suggest that the most prudent approach is to use a lightweight
> > markup language (LML). LMLs tend to be designed such that, while they
> > CAN be rendered into a presentation form, the source code is also
> > (relatively) legible.
> >
> > So, let's say I wanted to write something in bold. In HTML that could be
> >bold > \textbf{bold}. But in markdown, it's simply **bold**.
>
> Yes, I've been using Tex/LaTeX for 25+ years, various roff flavors for
> 30+ years, as well as asciidoc, markdown, and re-strucutred text for
> not-quite-as-many years.
>
> > A good LML would have a MIME type associated with it (I see that
> > markdown does, but reStructuredText doesn't, for example), so it can
> > either be viewed (as source) in the pager or rendered (as presentation
> > form) by a mailcap entry.
>
> The question was how to do it _within_ _mutt_ instead of preparing an
> HTML or PDF file externally and attaching it.
*attaching* it *is* the way "_winthin_ _mutt_".
mutt is a *text* application, not markup/markdown/html/css/ the way
you define text on *your* system is what you get, not what is sent or what
you send.
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Re: How to tell GUI MUAs to show message in a fixed font?
On 2017-04-27, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Grant Edwards [04-27-17 11:21]: >> On 2017-04-27, Darac Marjal wrote: >> > >> >>OK, so how does one do that within mutt? >> > >> > I would suggest that the most prudent approach is to use a lightweight >> > markup language (LML). LMLs tend to be designed such that, while they >> > CAN be rendered into a presentation form, the source code is also >> > (relatively) legible. [...] >> The question was how to do it _within_ _mutt_ instead of preparing an >> HTML or PDF file externally and attaching it. > > *attaching* it *is* the way "_winthin_ _mutt_". I was thinking more along the lines of this: https://github.com/Roguelazer/muttdown But it would be cleaner if there was a way within mutt to run the message body through such a filter to convert it into multipart-alternative. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! When you get your at PH.D. will you get able to gmail.comwork at BURGER KING?
Re: How to be warned about non-existent aliases?
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 03:07:28PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 02:34:56PM -0400, Ed Blackman wrote: > > alias uk-riders uk-rid...@the-hug.net > > # remembering is hard, aliases are cheap > > alias uk-r uk-riders > > alias ukr uk-riders > > alias ukriders uk-riders > > > Yes, but I belong to 60 or more lists, it would get bit wordy! I don't generally add lots of alias variants when I subscribe to a new list. But when I see "To: notanalias@$hostname", I immediately open my mailing list aliases file and add "alias notanalias whatImeant". Over a small number of posts to the new list, I exhaust the "here's a new way to get the alias wrong" space and the aliases cover all the old ways, so I don't have to think about what it should be. Sort of a variant on "put it back in the first place that you looked for it", except I put it in all the places! -- Ed Blackman
