Re: setting from address on mailing lists

2013-03-11 Thread Alexander Dahl
Hola,

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 03:32:53PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> set reverse_name
> set from = "p...@lespocky.de"
> set use_from
> alternates "  "
> 
> send-hook . unmy_hdr From:
> send-hook  "my_hdr From: "
> 
> 
> Now when you reply, mutt will use the name in the To: field to determine
> which From: addr to assign, unless  is met and then use
> 

This works! Yay, tusen takk!

> > Bonus question while we're at it: I wrote my mutt config some years
> > ago, why would I have wanted to use 'my_hdr From:
> > n...@example.com' instead of 'set from=n...@example.com'?
> 
> Indeed, why would you have?
> 
> send-hook . set from = ""
> send-hook  "set from = "
> // not tested or researched //
> 
> is there more than one way to "skin a cat"?

Okay, if I find some time to feed my curiosity I will search why I
would have done this, I'm pretty sure there was a reason, I wouldn't
have done this without. ;-)

Greets
Alex

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Re: setting from address on mailing lists

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexander Dahl  [03-11-13 04:37]:
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 03:32:53PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > set reverse_name
> > set from = "p...@lespocky.de"
> > set use_from
> > alternates "  "
> > 
> > send-hook . unmy_hdr From:
> > send-hook  "my_hdr From: "
> > 
> > 
> > Now when you reply, mutt will use the name in the To: field to determine
> > which From: addr to assign, unless  is met and then use
> > 
> 
> This works! Yay, tusen takk!

You are welcome

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Re: Why sign every message? (was Re: Sending attachments without crypt_autosign

2013-03-11 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 08:17:21AM -0700, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Florian Lohoff:
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 01:24:44PM -0600, Will Fiveash wrote:
> > > I have a couple of comments about this:
> > > 
> > > - Why sign most messages?  Unless the information is important for
> > >   others to verify that it came from a particular person why add the
> > >   bloat of a signature.  Beyond this I find it ironic that people sign
> 
> The "bloat" that a signed message carries is hardly bloat nowadays.
> HTML mail is bloat; a text version followed by an HTML version, likely
> followed with a legalese disclaimer .sig demanding you delete it if
> it's not intended for you, plus multiple jpeg thumbnail attachments
> ...  Now that's bloat!  email should be text, full stop.

I agree (really!), BUT...
 
> We used to think emacs was bloated, and compared to vi then, it was.
> Now, we have Tb sized drives and GHz processors in pocket sized
> supercomputers.  Welcome to the 21st Century.

...the same argument applies for HTML mail, even mixed/alternative
mail with plain text and html.

I'm repeating myself, but...  HTML provides much nicer means of
formatting your mail for things like emphasis, etc. than plain
text--typesetting has been used as a way to convey additional meaning
(e.g. tone, emphasis, etc.) for CENTURIES, and the fact that plain
text can not adequately render such formatting is, in my mind,
unquestionably a flaw.  It's true that many (if not most) HTML-capable
clients also add a bunch of unnecessary junk to the message, but that
is not the fault of HTML mail per se.  And it's certainly the case
that what I want does not require a full HTML engine to render it, but
HTML is the mechanism by which the masses (or the vendors who sell
software to them) have agreed to provide that functionality.  We, the
console-using mail readers of today, should get over this prejudice,
IMNSHO, and treat HTML mail as the first class citizen of electronic
communications that it IN FACT IS.

> Signing an email with PGP/gnupg doesn't begin to reach the level of
> "bloat" with what we have to work with now.

Agreed, and I also would prefer that everyone would encrypt their mail
all the time.  That probably doesn't make much sense for a public
mailing list though.  Still, I agree with your reasons for signing
your messages, and I have an additional one of my own:  Since I post
from an e-mail address which does not deliver mail to me, it provides
motivated senders a way to get mail to me using an address which will.


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Re: Why does some list software not honor the headers? (was ... Re: People want ...)

2013-03-11 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 03:47:14PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > If your user interface offers you reply and reply-to-all/reply-to-list
> > (good ones attach the *right* thing of the latter to the button if
> > there's one) 
>
> I know not about "button[s]" as I work with text from the keyboard.  

Your keyboard has no "buttons"?  then how do you use it for typing?
Sure, we usually call them "keys" on a keyboard, but they are indeed
(and perhaps even more appropriately called) buttons.

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Re: Why does some list software not honor the headers? (was ... Re: People want ...)

2013-03-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin  [03-11-13 15:09]:
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 03:47:14PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > > If your user interface offers you reply and reply-to-all/reply-to-list
> > > (good ones attach the *right* thing of the latter to the button if
> > > there's one) 
> >
> > I know not about "button[s]" as I work with text from the keyboard.  
> 
> Your keyboard has no "buttons"?  then how do you use it for typing?
> Sure, we usually call them "keys" on a keyboard, but they are indeed
> (and perhaps even more appropriately called) buttons.

A thin membrane which is touch sensitive in particular areas which
correspond to and provide key sequences which appear on the screen  :^)

... a rose by any other name ...

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message preview snippets in subject line?

2013-03-11 Thread Richard
Hi,

I am getting more and more emails without a meaningful subject
so something like googe-mail one line preview would be great.

Any way to do it?

Richard

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