Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-04 Thread Sander Smeenk 
Quoting Dale A. Raby (daler...@gmail.com):
> > Well, that's strange. Everyting is normal and expected then.
> > Still your mutt pager shows strange characters when i type äççéñtṡ?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -Sander.
> 
> Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut, aber the umlaut characters disply just
> fine on my system.  What I would like to know is how you type them on an
> English keyboard.  Is there some way to do that?

I see Ken Moffat already went in-depth on your question. ;)

Personally i don't like 'dead' keys. Dead keys mean pressing ' does not
show ' immediately. You'd have to press ' to get '. Or 'e to
get é.  I don't want that as i am an avid Perl coder. ;-)

I use a feature called 'compose key', as Ken also illustrated, i use
'xmodmap' to change my 'AltGr' key into a 'Multi_key':

keycode 108 = Multi_key

Now when i press AltGr, then ' and then e, i get é
Or AltGr, C, = gets me €

HTH,
With regards,
-Sander.
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Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-04 Thread Sander Smeenk 
Quoting s. keeling (keel...@nucleus.com):

> > Run   wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8
> > This should show a 'demo' of unicode capabilities.
> 
> FWIW, that displays (mostly) gibberish in my "mrxvt-full" (Debian
> testing/wheezy).

Your font is probably lacking glyps. It should show placeholders looking
like a square [] for glyphs it does not have, but still the general
layout of the wget output should look sort-of-okay instead of severely
messed up.

I use urxvt wit the 'monospace' font:
 URxvt.font:xft:monospace:pixelsize=13
 URxvt.boldFont:xft:monospace:bold:pixelsize=13
 URxvt.letterSpace: -1

But we're diverging from mutt here ;-)

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Re: No Folder Bar?

2013-01-04 Thread Bastien Dejean 
Michael Elkins:

> On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 02:39:07PM +0100, Bastien Dejean wrote:
> >In the mercurial version of mutt (changeset 5620) the folder bar (not sure 
> >if the name is correct, the corresponding setting is: 'folder_format') seems 
> >to be missing.
> 
> The "sidebar" patch is not officially supported by the mutt project, but you 
> can find it here: http://www.lunar-linux.org/mutt-sidebar/

I'm referring to the bar that normally appears, in pager mode, just above the 
message header.

Re: No Folder Bar?

2013-01-04 Thread Michael Elkins 

On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 11:49:04AM +0100, Bastien Dejean wrote:

I'm referring to the bar that normally appears, in pager mode, just above the 
message header.


It turns out that what you saw was a bug with $status_on_top set 
that was corrected in changeset 6282:d7d26c40e1e5.  If you run 'hg 
pull -u' and rebuild that problem should be corrected.

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-04 Thread s. keeling 
Incoming from Sander Smeenk:
> Quoting s. keeling (keel...@nucleus.com):
> 
> > > Run   wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8
> > > This should show a 'demo' of unicode capabilities.
> > 
> > FWIW, that displays (mostly) gibberish in my "mrxvt-full" (Debian
> 
> Your font is probably lacking glyps. It should show placeholders looking
> like a square [] for glyphs it does not have, but still the general
> layout of the wget output should look sort-of-okay instead of severely
> messed up.
> 
> I use urxvt with the 'monospace' font:

Thanks.  That worked a lot better.

> But we're diverging from mutt here ;-)

I disagree.  How terminals work is important stuff, directly related
to mutt.  I was damned near ecstatic seeing KM's post.  A friend of
mine is going to love reading that.  She's been trying to figure out
how to type numeric exponents in text (superscript) and that's going
to really help her.  Thanks KM!

However, I won't belabour the point.  :-)  Have fun.


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Re: No Folder Bar?

2013-01-04 Thread Bastien Dejean 
Michael Elkins:

> If you run 'hg pull -u' and rebuild that problem should be corrected.

Yes it is, thanks.

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-04 Thread Ken Moffat 
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 09:22:24AM +0100, Sander Smeenk wrote:
> 
> Personally i don't like 'dead' keys. Dead keys mean pressing ' does not
> show ' immediately. You'd have to press ' to get '. Or 'e to
> get é.  I don't want that as i am an avid Perl coder. ;-)
> 
 Yes, I've got my netbook (with ubuntu) set like that and it isn't
pleasant.  Fortunately, the xorg dead keys are only active when
AltGr is held down, so ; : ' @ etc all function normally until I
touch the AltGr key.

 That won't help in your case, with AltGr remapped, but it does work
reasonably well for me.

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