Re: rsync removes the "N" from mailboxes with new mail

2011-03-13 Thread Chris G
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 07:00:46PM -0500, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 14:17:49 -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
> > $ stat rsyncfrom/*
> >   File: `rsyncfrom/bar'
> >   Size: 0   Blocks: 0  IO Block: 4096   regular empty file
> > Device: 805h/2053d  Inode: 41984   Links: 1
> > Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (24574/demartin)   Gid: (  600/   staff)
> > Access: 2011-03-08 15:45:52.0 -0500
> > Modify: 2011-03-08 15:45:52.0 -0500
> > Change: 2011-03-08 15:45:52.0 -0500
> [...]
> > 
> > HOWEVER, NONE OF THE TIMES OF THE SOURCE FILES HAVE BEEN UPDATED.
> 
> Like John, in my tests rsync both with and without "-t" updates the
> access time of the original file (see session log below)
> 
Yes, I think (as one would expect from what the rsync man page says)
that rsync doesn't *intentionally* do anything clever with the access
time.  Either it always changes it or it never changes it and the -t
option doesn't make any difference.  As suggested it's probably the
presence or otherwise of the noatime option in fstab that makes the
difference. 

-- 
Chris Green


[OT] GPG signature fails

2011-03-13 Thread Remco Rijnders

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:36:36PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:



Derek,

I do appreciate you signing all your mails to this list, but each and 
every one of them shows up as a bad signature and I'm not sure whether you 
are aware of this or not.


I've tried to contact you about this outside this list, but you don't make 
it very easy for people to contact you directly.


Sincerely,

Remco


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Re: [OT] GPG signature fails

2011-03-13 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 03/13/2011 06:11 AM, Remco Rijnders wrote:
> Derek,
> 
> I do appreciate you signing all your mails to this list, but each and
> every one of them shows up as a bad signature and I'm not sure whether
> you are aware of this or not.
> 
> I've tried to contact you about this outside this list, but you don't
> make it very easy for people to contact you directly.

Something must be broken with your MUA or OpenPGP implementation. All of
his signatures come in clean for me. I haven't seen a bad signature from
him on this list.

OpenPGP Security Info

UNTRUSTED Good signature from Derek D. Martin 
Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 / Signed on: 03/10/2011 11:36 AM
Key fingerprint: B5F7 DC7F F7B9 A9E2 5AE2 9002 1C49 C048 DFBE AD02

-- 
. o .   o . o   . . o   o . .   . o .
. . o   . o o   o . o   . o o   . . o
o o o   . o .   . o o   o o .   o o o



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: [OT] GPG signature fails

2011-03-13 Thread Remco Rijnders

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 06:32:54AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote:

On 03/13/2011 06:11 AM, Remco Rijnders wrote:

Derek,

I do appreciate you signing all your mails to this list, but each and
every one of them shows up as a bad signature and I'm not sure whether
you are aware of this or not.

I've tried to contact you about this outside this list, but you don't
make it very easy for people to contact you directly.


Something must be broken with your MUA or OpenPGP implementation. All of
his signatures come in clean for me. I haven't seen a bad signature from
him on this list.

OpenPGP Security Info

UNTRUSTED Good signature from Derek D. Martin 
Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 / Signed on: 03/10/2011 11:36 AM
Key fingerprint: B5F7 DC7F F7B9 A9E2 5AE2 9002 1C49 C048 DFBE AD02


Possibly... but it consistently is with only Derek's emails. Your 
signature validates fine for example.


Using mutt and gpg as available in / from Debian Squeeze.

But if it is just me seeing this, then I'll try to investigate further on 
my end.


Thanks for the feedback Aaron.

Remco


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Re: [OT] GPG signature fails

2011-03-13 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 06:32:54AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote:
> On 03/13/2011 06:11 AM, Remco Rijnders wrote:
> > Derek,
> > 
> > I do appreciate you signing all your mails to this list, but each and
> > every one of them shows up as a bad signature and I'm not sure whether
> > you are aware of this or not.
> > 
> > I've tried to contact you about this outside this list, but you don't
> > make it very easy for people to contact you directly.
> 
> Something must be broken with your MUA or OpenPGP implementation. All of
> his signatures come in clean for me. I haven't seen a bad signature from
> him on this list.
> 
> OpenPGP Security Info
> 
> UNTRUSTED Good signature from Derek D. Martin 
> Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 / Signed on: 03/10/2011 11:36 AM
> Key fingerprint: B5F7 DC7F F7B9 A9E2 5AE2 9002 1C49 C048 DFBE AD02

Actually, that was using Icedove. Using Mutt yeilds:

[-- PGP output follows (current time: Sun 13 Mar 2011 06:59:00 AM MDT) --]  

   
gpg: Signature made Thu 10 Mar 2011 11:36:36 AM MST using DSA key ID DFBEAD02   

gpg: BAD signature from "Derek D. Martin "  
 
[-- End of PGP output --]

After running 'gpg --list-packets' on his signature, here's what I get:

:signature packet: algo 17, keyid 1C49C048DFBEAD02
version 3, created 1299603262, md5len 5, sigclass 0x01
digest algo 2, begin of digest e3 50
data: [159 bits]
data: [159 bits]

He's using DSA with SHA1. Interesting that the output is 159 bits, and
not 160 bits.

Seahorse also complains about the signature, calling it bad. Interesting
too that Enigmail with Icedove validates the signature, but Mutt fails.

At any event, it does in fact appear that something is broken with his
OpenPGP signatures, likely due to a misconfiguration in his
~/.gnupg/gpg.conf or muttrc.

-- 
. o .   o . o   . . o   o . .   . o .
. . o   . o o   o . o   . o o   . . o
o o o   . o .   . o o   o o .   o o o


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Description: Digital signature


Re: rsync removes the "N" from mailboxes with new mail

2011-03-13 Thread Dan McDaniel


On Sat 12.Mar.11 19:00, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote:

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 14:17:49 -0600, Derek Martin wrote:



[...]
Access: 2011-03-12 18:45:08.0 -0500
Modify: 2011-03-12 18:43:40.0 -0500
Change: 2011-03-12 18:45:08.0 -0500

(This is rsync v2.6.4 on a Linux 2.4.x ext2 filesystem with default
mount options.)



Just to point out that rsync v2.6.4 is pretty old. Current is 3.0.7.
Even my Debian Lenny system (Lenny was released two years ago) is
running 3.0.3. Perhaps there was a change in rsync's behavior since
2.6.4. Version 3.0.7 does not change the access times on my system. 


--

Dan McDaniel d...@dm3.us Key fingerprint = CAEC B8D9 3701 86CF
D3B2  1E99 D8BB F217 455C AD36


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Description: Digital signature


Re: [OT] GPG signature fails

2011-03-13 Thread Richard
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 06:32:54AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote:
> On 03/13/2011 06:11 AM, Remco Rijnders wrote:
> > Derek,
> > 
> > I do appreciate you signing all your mails to this list, but each and
> > every one of them shows up as a bad signature and I'm not sure whether
> > you are aware of this or not.
> > 
> > I've tried to contact you about this outside this list, but you don't
> > make it very easy for people to contact you directly.
> 
> Something must be broken with your MUA or OpenPGP implementation. All of
> his signatures come in clean for me. I haven't seen a bad signature from
> him on this list.

Derek's signature fails here as well, unlike yours and most others.


Richard

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Name and OpenPGP keys available from pgp key servers



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Description: PGP signature


Comodo Secure Email Certificate

2011-03-13 Thread Veljko
Hi!

I just applied for Comodo's free email certificate
http://www.comodo.com/home/email-security/free-email-certificate.php

How can it be used with mutt?



Re: Comodo Secure Email Certificate

2011-03-13 Thread Veljko
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 05:42:46PM +0100, Veljko wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I just applied for Comodo's free email certificate
> http://www.comodo.com/home/email-security/free-email-certificate.php
> 
> How can it be used with mutt?
> 

In case anybody else is wondering how to do it, I found it:
http://equiraptor.com/smime_mutt_how-to.html
http://kb.wisc.edu/middleware/page.php?id=4091

Cheers!