Re: Mutt freezes if network lost and regained

2009-11-15 Thread Joost Kremers
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:34:34PM +0100, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 01:27:13PM +0100, Joost Kremers wrote:
> > Better, I guess not, but a bit more convenient would be to run mutt in a 
> > screen
> > session, then you can kill mutt by just pressing `C-a k'.
> 
> This is bit off-topic, but are there any other
> advantages/disadvantages with using screen, with mutt or otherwise?

I don't see any disadvantages, really. I run a screen session (on my own
computer) with three mutt instances, one to access my local mail boxes, and two
for two different IMAP servers on which I have email accounts. The relevant
section of my .screenrc looks like this:

=

screen -t "Local mail" mutt -F .muttrc-local
screen -t "Fastmail" mutt -F .muttrc-fm
screen -t "Uni Frankfurt" mutt -F .muttrc-jwg
screen -t "slrn" slrn -n

select 1

=

As you can see, I also run slrn in a separate window.

The three .muttrc-* files contain just the settings that differ for each account
and then read .muttrc-gen, which contains general settings.


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Re: intermittant hesitation after key strokes

2009-11-15 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Saturday, November 14 at 11:08 AM, quoth Robert Holtzman:
> When installed in debian lenny on my desktop box and on ubuntu hardy 
> on my laptop it's fine. Hiting "c" shows the default mailbox to open 
> as the next one with new mail. Better than alpine. Installed on 
> ubuntu hardy, also on my desktop box, hitting "c" causes it to ask 
> what mailbox to open and I have to bring up the list and scroll down 
> to the one I want. Why the difference between ubuntu on the two 
> different computers is driving me nuts.

Okay, let's look at this more specifically, on two machines, 
 suggests the next mailbox with new mail. On one, it 
doesn't.

If you're always viewing locally stored messages (e.g. stored in your 
home directories), and if your messages are stored in mbox format, 
then it's possible that the difference is that your ubuntu desktop 
mounts its drives with the "noatime" option, which messes up mutt's 
detection of new mail. Thus, it doesn't suggest a mailbox for the 
simple reason that it doesn't think any of them contain new mail.

If you're always viewing *remote* email (e.g. accessing your mail via 
IMAP), then it's harder to guess why mailboxes with new mail aren't 
being suggested.

In either case, you don't *have* to use the big list to find your 
mailboxes. Mutt's change-folder prompt can work like the shell: you 
can use tab completion to make it faster. For example, I keep my mutt  
mailing list mail organized into INBOX/Subscribed/Mutt. I have $folder 
set to "INBOX". Thus, whenever I want to read the mutt mailing list 
email, I simply press c=SM (where the things in 
brackets are key-presses).

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Re: intermittant hesitation after key strokes

2009-11-15 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:38:01AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> On Saturday, November 14 at 11:08 AM, quoth Robert Holtzman:
> > When installed in debian lenny on my desktop box and on ubuntu hardy 
> > on my laptop it's fine. Hiting "c" shows the default mailbox to open 
> > as the next one with new mail. Better than alpine. Installed on 
> > ubuntu hardy, also on my desktop box, hitting "c" causes it to ask 
> > what mailbox to open and I have to bring up the list and scroll down 
> > to the one I want. Why the difference between ubuntu on the two 
> > different computers is driving me nuts.
> 
> Okay, let's look at this more specifically, on two machines, 
>  suggests the next mailbox with new mail. On one, it 
> doesn't.

Correct.

> 
> If you're always viewing locally stored messages (e.g. stored in your 
> home directories), and if your messages are stored in mbox format, 
> then it's possible that the difference is that your ubuntu desktop 
> mounts its drives with the "noatime" option, which messes up mutt's 
> detection of new mail. Thus, it doesn't suggest a mailbox for the 
> simple reason that it doesn't think any of them contain new mail.

According to fstab /home is mounted relatime, the same as the laptop
(which works). Debian doesn't say which means it's default which I
*assume* is relatime. 
From what I see on
http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/01/30/installing-linux-on-usb-part-4-noatime-and-relatime-mount-options/
that should be fine. Now I'm snowed. Think I'll try mutt's dev list.

> 
> If you're always viewing *remote* email (e.g. accessing your mail via 
> IMAP), then it's harder to guess why mailboxes with new mail aren't 
> being suggested.
> 
> In either case, you don't *have* to use the big list to find your 
> mailboxes. Mutt's change-folder prompt can work like the shell: you 
> can use tab completion to make it faster. For example, I keep my mutt  
> mailing list mail organized into INBOX/Subscribed/Mutt. I have $folder 
> set to "INBOX". Thus, whenever I want to read the mutt mailing list 
> email, I simply press c=SM (where the things in 
> brackets are key-presses).

Unless I'm missing something, that looks like more key strokes than I have now.

Thanks for the reply.

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Re: Names in sent folder

2009-11-15 Thread Alex Huth
* Patrick Shanahan schrieb:
> * Alex Huth  [11-13-09 12:29]:
> 
> read the manual on "folder_hooks"  :^)
> 
I am using already folder_hooks and have a hook for the sent folder, but it
seems to be ignored.


Re: Names in sent folder

2009-11-15 Thread bill lam
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Alex Huth wrote:
> Even when i comment my index_format line there is no change in the index of
> the sent folder. I have only one address ia m sending from.
> How can i use different index_format for different folders?
> 
> * Kevin Kammer schrieb:
> [---=| TOFU protection by t-prot: 26 lines snipped |=---]

did typing ":set ?from" show your current address?

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