Re: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-12-10) and folder_format

2008-12-14 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Dave Wood  [12-13-08 23:23]:
> Just testing 1.5.18 and noticed that now %s is showing in KBytes
> instead of bytes. Is there a new format for bytes?

No, I'm still on 1.5.13 and KBytes are shown, but it is %c, not %s.
%s represents the message subject in $index_format.

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Re: bind doesn't work even though it's listed with ?

2008-12-14 Thread Dave Wood
On (13:52 14/12/08), Joost Kremers  put forth the 
proposition:
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:09:24PM +, Dave Wood wrote:
> > I'm using  to read next-undeleted which works fine, but when I set
> >  to read previous-undeleted it says key not bound. I have it
> > set for index and pager:
> > 
> > bindindex  next-undeleted
> > bindpager  next-undeleted
> > bindindex   previous-undeleted
> > bindpager   previous-undeleted
> > 
> > Any ideas why this isn't working?
> 
> Try the following: open up a terminal, execute the command 'xev' and then
> hit shift-tab. That'll show you how the keys are actually known to X.
> 
> in my case (slackware linux 12.1, X 7.1), hitting just the tab key yields
> 'Tab', but hitting shift-tab tells me that in combination with shift, the
> tab key is suddenly known as ISO_Left_Tab.

Yes I'm also using Slack and I found the same thing. Mutt doesn't recognise
any varient of that name though, but after some RTFM'ing I found that mutt
calls  backtab so I have fixed it eventually.

Cheers

> 
> In Emacs, I couldn't bind S-Tab unless I used ISO_Left_Tab as keysym.
> (Well, actually, I needed to use 'iso_lefttab'. So much for
> standardisation... ;-)
> 
> Perhaps if you try  or variations thereof in .muttrc
> you may be able to bind shift-tab.
> 
> 
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Re: bind doesn't work even though it's listed with ?

2008-12-14 Thread Joost Kremers
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:09:24PM +, Dave Wood wrote:
> I'm using  to read next-undeleted which works fine, but when I set
>  to read previous-undeleted it says key not bound. I have it
> set for index and pager:
> 
> bindindex  next-undeleted
> bindpager  next-undeleted
> bindindex   previous-undeleted
> bindpager   previous-undeleted
> 
> Any ideas why this isn't working?

Try the following: open up a terminal, execute the command 'xev' and then
hit shift-tab. That'll show you how the keys are actually known to X.

in my case (slackware linux 12.1, X 7.1), hitting just the tab key yields
'Tab', but hitting shift-tab tells me that in combination with shift, the
tab key is suddenly known as ISO_Left_Tab.

In Emacs, I couldn't bind S-Tab unless I used ISO_Left_Tab as keysym.
(Well, actually, I needed to use 'iso_lefttab'. So much for
standardisation... ;-)

Perhaps if you try  or variations thereof in .muttrc
you may be able to bind shift-tab.


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60629 Frankfurt am Main, Germany


Re: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-12-10) and folder_format

2008-12-14 Thread John J. Foster
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 07:35:51AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Dave Wood  [12-13-08 23:23]:
> > Just testing 1.5.18 and noticed that now %s is showing in KBytes
> > instead of bytes. Is there a new format for bytes?
> 
> No, I'm still on 1.5.13 and KBytes are shown, but it is %c, not %s.
> %s represents the message subject in $index_format.
> 

from TFM,

3.59. folder_format
Type: string
Default: "%2C %t %N %F %2l %-8.8u %-8.8g %8s %d %f"
...
%s   size in bytes

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Re: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-12-10) and folder_format

2008-12-14 Thread George Davidovich
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 04:21:07AM +, Dave Wood wrote:
> Just testing 1.5.18 and noticed that now %s is showing in KBytes
> instead of bytes. Is there a new format for bytes?

You'll get K only if the mailbox is smaller than a megabyte, otherwise
you'll get M.

I brought up the issue 6 months ago, and the lack of response suggests
that it's not a widespread problem.

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Re: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-12-10) and folder_format

2008-12-14 Thread Dave Wood

On (08:49 14/12/08), George Davidovich  put forth the 
proposition:

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 04:21:07AM +, Dave Wood wrote:

Just testing 1.5.18 and noticed that now %s is showing in KBytes
instead of bytes. Is there a new format for bytes?


You'll get K only if the mailbox is smaller than a megabyte, otherwise
you'll get M.

I brought up the issue 6 months ago, and the lack of response suggests
that it's not a widespread problem.


Well it's not a huge problem for me I guess, but it would be nice to some
extra formatting options like display in bytes or K/M.



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Re: Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-12-10) and folder_format

2008-12-14 Thread George Davidovich
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:09:18PM +, Dave Wood wrote:
> On (08:49 14/12/08), George Davidovich  put forth
> the proposition:
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 04:21:07AM +, Dave Wood wrote:
> > > Just testing 1.5.18 and noticed that now %s is showing in KBytes
> > > instead of bytes. Is there a new format for bytes?
> > 
> > You'll get K only if the mailbox is smaller than a megabyte,
> > otherwise you'll get M.
> > 
> > I brought up the issue 6 months ago, and the lack of response
> > suggests that it's not a widespread problem.
> 
> Well it's not a huge problem for me I guess, but it would be nice to
> some extra formatting options like display in bytes or K/M.

Agreed, but the recognition of a problem and a possible fix generally
precede discussions of workarounds and their relative merits, let alone
new feature requests.

Me, I've removed %s from folder_format entirely.  I expect to get bitten
one day, but for day to day maildir browsing (where everything is
"0.5K"), file size information isn't that important.  Similarly, I've
removed %b from index_format for IMAP browsing, choosing instead to rely
on the clunky but reliably correct information provided by using the
toggle-mailboxes ('y') command.

Not entirely unlike real solutions, but who's counting?

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certificate for gmail

2008-12-14 Thread bill lam
I have already setup gmail certificate files for mutt and msmtp.
However I wondered why other email clients such as outlook in m$
windows or even thunderbird under linux do not ask for them.  Are
those gmail certificates bundled with email clients or are they
already located in some well known directories?

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