disable beep sound

2008-08-20 Thread bill lam
I use mutt on xterm, It make a beep sound whenever mail box closes
(because I reset internet connection to renew public IP). Is there any
way to disable beep/bell sound?

regards,


Re: disable beep sound

2008-08-20 Thread Stefan Wimmer
* bill lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-08-20 11:34]:
> I use mutt on xterm, It make a beep sound whenever mail box closes
> (because I reset internet connection to renew public IP). Is there any
> way to disable beep/bell sound?
> 
> regards,

Does "set beep=no" not help?

HTH
swimmer


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Re: disable beep sound

2008-08-20 Thread bill lam
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Stefan Wimmer wrote:
> Does "set beep=no" not help?

Thanks! it works.

BTW when I hit reply (r), it filled your email address instead of
group list address, how to reply to (1) group or (2) all , as that
available in thunderbird?

regards,


Re: disable beep sound

2008-08-20 Thread steve
Le 2008-08-20, à 18:11:17 +0800, bill lam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) a écrit :

> Lignes : 11
> 
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Stefan Wimmer wrote:
> > Does "set beep=no" not help?
> 
> Thanks! it works.
> 
> BTW when I hit reply (r), it filled your email address instead of
> group list address, how to reply to (1) group or (2) all , as that
> available in thunderbird?

Hit "L" instead.

And read the online help (hit ? for that)

> regards,


Best regards,
Steve


Re: disable beep sound

2008-08-20 Thread Stefan Wimmer
* bill lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-08-20 12:15]:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Stefan Wimmer wrote:
>> Does "set beep=no" not help?
> 
> Thanks! it works.
> 
> BTW when I hit reply (r), it filled your email address instead of
> group list address, how to reply to (1) group or (2) all , as that
> available in thunderbird?
> 
> regards,

For (1) hit 'L' and for (2) hit 'g' (at least with my config ...)

Greetz
Stefan 


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Re: disable beep sound

2008-08-20 Thread Marianne Promberger
On Wednesday, 20 August 2008, 18:11 (UTC+0800), bill lam wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Stefan Wimmer wrote:
> > Does "set beep=no" not help?
> 
> Thanks! it works.
> 
> BTW when I hit reply (r), it filled your email address instead of
> group list address, how to reply to (1) group 

L

(I think only works if you've told mutt about the list using
"subscribe" in .muttrc)

or (2) all 

g


Typing a question mark "?" in mutt gives you an overview over the
currently bound keys.

and: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/

m.


Re: disable beep sound

2008-08-20 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 20 Aug 2008 18:11 +0800, by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill lam):
> how to reply to (1) group

L ()

Note that you will need to tell mutt that the mail came through a
mailing list for this to work. See the documentation about "lists" and
"subscribe".

> or (2) all

g ()

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Re: disable beep sound

2008-08-20 Thread bill lam
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Michael Kjorling wrote:

> On 20 Aug 2008 18:11 +0800, by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill lam):
> > how to reply to (1) group
> 
> L ()
> 
> Note that you will need to tell mutt that the mail came through a
> mailing list for this to work. See the documentation about "lists" and
> "subscribe".
> 
> > or (2) all
> 
> g ()

Thanks all for help. "L" also works for me.

regards,


Re: Mutt tty problems on Mac OS X 10.5.4 and mutt 1.5.18

2008-08-20 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Tuesday, August 19 at 04:34 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> The only difference was white text on a black background (ugh), so I 
> settled on vt102 for now.  Here is a copy and paste of sample bogus 
> lines.

Does it change if you add the following to your muttrc?

 set ascii_chars=yes

If it does, then we know the problem is your character set (i.e. the 
font). If it doesn't change, then we know the problem is the colors.

Also, just to see if your terminal can do it, try running this:

 echo -e '\033)0\016v\017'

You should get something that looks like an upside-down T if things 
are working properly. If it doesn't... What encodings do you have 
enabled (in the Preferences->Encodings tab) in the Terminal? And what 
font are you using?

> I poked around trying to find /etc/termcapp and /etc/terminfo, no 
> luck.  There are others elsewhere, but Terminal seems to have a very 
> limited subset of terminal types, so I didn't put any more time into 
> them.

For the moment, you don't have to worry about those, just try this:

 export TERM=nsterm
 mutt

The files are actually stored in /usr/share/terminfo/, but that's 
unimportant. If you end up customizing your nsterm-16color file, you 
can simply install it in your home directory (in ~/.terminfo/... you 
have to set the TERMINFO environment variable - read the tic man page 
for details). You shouldn't need to customize it right away, though.

~Kyle
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Re: Mutt tty problems on Mac OS X 10.5.4 and mutt 1.5.18 --

2008-08-20 Thread felix
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:34:44AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks -- I see the key to my misunderstanding the problem was in not
> recognizing what it was trying to display -- the lines for repeat
> Subject: headers in the summary.  I think that was because it reminded
> me so much of line noise that I was thinking of something out of sync
> or that the Mac somehow confused Mutt with regard to replies, rather
> than simply the wrong char set or font.  I will poke around with fonts
> and see what other mutt config enries might look promising and should
> get something resolved sooner or later, and report back ...

H.  I tried all the Mac fonts, fixed width and otherwise, except
the truly goofy useless ones, and every single one gave me the same ~T
nonsense, unless I set ascii_chars=yes, in which case they all gave me
the simple ASCII faux line drawing chars.  I didn't see any other
likely mutt config possibilities, and this at least works, so I will
stick with it for now.  I am not sure how Linux ended up with better
fonts for mutt than the Mac, but my short experience with this Mac has
convinced me yet again that I wish my company used Linux laptops, with
proper focus follows mouse, working virtual desktops, and lack of
lockups.  I should count my blessings -- at least it isn't a Winders
laptop.

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Re: Mutt tty problems on Mac OS X 10.5.4 and mutt 1.5.18

2008-08-20 Thread felix
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 09:48:56AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote:

> I wonder? what version of ncurses are you linked to? (mutt -v will tell 
> you) I use ncurses 5.6.20061217, but I installed that myself via MacPorts.

Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
Copyright (C) 1996-2008 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Darwin 9.4.0 (i386)
ncurses: ncurses 5.4.20041023 (compiled with 5.4)
libiconv: 1.11
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  
+USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK   
+USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  +USE_SMTP  -USE_GSS  +USE_SSL_OPENSSL
-USE_SSL_GNUTLS  +USE_SASL  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
-HAVE_REGCOMP  +USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP  +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME
-CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME  
-EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  +LOCALES_HACK  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET
+HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  -HAVE_LIBIDN  +HAVE_GETSID  -USE_HCACHE  
-ISPELL
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/mail"
PKGDATADIR="/sw/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/sw/etc"
EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
-MIXMASTER
To contact the developers, please mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
To report a bug, please visit http://bugs.mutt.org/.

patch-1.5.18.sidebar.20080517.txt

Just for grins, I ran this on one of the Linux systems I use which
does display properly, a gentoo ~amd64.  It is older but ncurses is
newer.  Since ascii_chars at least makes the display readable, I think
I will stick with that and the old ncurses rather tn install more
custom software.

Mutt 1.5.16 (2007-06-09)
Copyright (C) 1996-2007 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.6.26-gentoo-r1 (x86_64)
ncurses: ncurses 5.6.20061217 (compiled with 5.6)
libidn: 1.9 (compiled with 1.5)
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
+HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  
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-USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  -USE_SMTP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL_OPENSSL  +USE_SSL_GNUTLS  
+USE_SASL  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
-HAVE_REGCOMP  +USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP  -CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME  -CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME  
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+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_LIBIDN  +HAVE_GETSID  +USE_HCACHE  
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="Maildir"
PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/etc/mutt"
EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
MIXMASTER="mixmaster"
To contact the developers, please mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
To report a bug, please visit http://bugs.mutt.org/.

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charset problem in index view

2008-08-20 Thread bill lam
When the header was
From: =?big5?q?=ABab=20=AAL?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
it display "from" in index view
=?GB2312?B?udpi 

however when the header was
From: =?gb2312?q?=BD=F0=D8S=B3=C7?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
it displayed as
=?BIG5?B?qvfC16

Both displayed correctly in pager view.

regards,


"from" in index view for mailing list

2008-08-20 Thread bill lam
eg, in the index view, it shows

4176 N F Aug 21 To mutt-users   (3.0K) charset problem in index view

the "from" is "To mutt-users" for all msg from this mailing list, how
to set it to display the name of poster, eg.

4176 N F Aug 21 bill lam(3.0K) charset problem in index view

regards,


Re: "from" in index view for mailing list

2008-08-20 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Thursday, August 21 at 08:42 AM, quoth bill lam:
>eg, in the index view, it shows
>
>4176 N F Aug 21 To mutt-users   (3.0K) charset problem in index view
>
>the "from" is "To mutt-users" for all msg from this mailing list, how
>to set it to display the name of poster, eg.
>
>4176 N F Aug 21 bill lam(3.0K) charset problem in index view

Check out $index_format in the muttrc man page; you probably want to 
use %a instead of %f or %L.

~Kyle
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Re: charset problem in index view

2008-08-20 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Thursday, August 21 at 08:36 AM, quoth bill lam:
>When the header was
>From: =?big5?q?=ABab=20=AAL?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>it display "from" in index view
>=?GB2312?B?udpi 
>
>however when the header was
>From: =?gb2312?q?=BD=F0=D8S=B3=C7?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>it displayed as
>=?BIG5?B?qvfC16
>
>Both displayed correctly in pager view.

Hmmm, weird. Sounds like your header_cache got messed up. Try deleting 
your header cache.

~Kyle
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Re: "from" in index view for mailing list

2008-08-20 Thread bill lam
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Kyle Wheeler wrote:

> On Thursday, August 21 at 08:42 AM, quoth bill lam:
> >eg, in the index view, it shows
> >
> >4176 N F Aug 21 To mutt-users   (3.0K) charset problem in index view
> >
> >the "from" is "To mutt-users" for all msg from this mailing list, how
> >to set it to display the name of poster, eg.
> >
> >4176 N F Aug 21 bill lam(3.0K) charset problem in index view
> 
> Check out $index_format in the muttrc man page; you probably want to 
> use %a instead of %f or %L.

Thank you! I was using the default index_format and it now works ok
with %F instead of the default %L

regards,


Re: charset problem in index view

2008-08-20 Thread bill lam
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> Hmmm, weird. Sounds like your header_cache got messed up. Try deleting 
> your header cache.
 
I delete cached but it still appears the same way. Furthermore this
misbehavior is not limited to Chinese. It also happens to author name
that containing of non-latin letters, eg

 message header source / index page / pager
 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Zsb=E1n_Am
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?
 From: Zsbán

 message header source / index page / pager
 From: =?UTF-8?B?UmHDumwgTsO6w7Fleg==?= de
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?
 From: Raúl Núñez

FWIW I already use charset=UTF-8 and use a UTF-8 locale.

regards,