Re: mutt looses new marker on mailboxes

2007-12-30 Thread Rado S
=- Patrick Shanahan wrote on Sat 29.Dec'07 at 19:15:44 -0500 -=

> * =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Sommer_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-29-07 18:13]:
> > I've different mailboxes (mbox format) for different purposes.
> > But mutt removes the new flag from the mailbox in the browser
> > even if there are mail with the new flag in the mailbox.
> 
> No, you mis-understand the function.

Well... it depends on the folder-type.
Jörg's expectation is satisfied for me when I work with IMAP: new
msgs make the IMAP server report the folders containing them as new,
too, every time I reconnect until the msgs inside lose N.

Only for mbox format he's mistaken.

> > What might be the reason? 
> 
> once you open an mbox folder/file, you have unset the, "N", new
> flag. New mail will remain in the file and remain marked new until
> you open it, but the file/folder will no longer be new, ie: you
> have accessed it.

Ideally I'd like to have that optional.
But maybe my IMAP server wouldn't care anyway and keep reporting
them as unseen folders.

> > I want to keep track of unanswered mail in all boxes. How can I
> > persuade mutt to set the flag?
> 
> do not open/access folders that you want to retain the new flag.
> There is no function to set a flag on a folder that I am aware.

Right, mutt can't do that.
But you could change it manually via your shell by resetting mtime and
atime as needed.
Jörg, see also faq (IIRC).

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Re: mutt looses new marker on mailboxes

2007-12-30 Thread Patrick Shanahan
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* Rado S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-30-07 06:00]:
> =- Patrick Shanahan wrote on Sat 29.Dec'07 at 19:15:44 -0500 -=
> 
> > * =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Sommer_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-29-07 18:13]:
> > > I've different mailboxes (mbox format) for different purposes.
> > > But mutt removes the new flag from the mailbox in the browser
> > > even if there are mail with the new flag in the mailbox.
> > 
> > No, you mis-understand the function.
> 
> Well... it depends on the folder-type.
> Jörg's expectation is satisfied for me when I work with IMAP: new
> msgs make the IMAP server report the folders containing them as new,
> too, every time I reconnect until the msgs inside lose N.
> 
> Only for mbox format he's mistaken.

well, he did specify mbox so I "assumed" he was talking local machine
files, but 
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Re: mutt looses new marker on mailboxes

2007-12-30 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hello Patrick,

Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Sommer_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-29-07 18:13]:
>> I've different mailboxes (mbox format) for different purposes. But mutt
>> removes the new flag from the mailbox in the browser even if there are
>> mail with the new flag in the mailbox. 
>
> No, you mis-understand the function.
>
>> What might be the reason? 
>
> once you open an mbox folder/file, you have unset the, "N", new flag.
> New mail will remain in the file and remain marked new until you open
> it, but the file/folder will no longer be new, ie: you have accessed it.

But IMAP folder don't loose the N flag. And mutt-ng achieve the flag,
too. This there an hook I can use to set the flag manually?

> do not open/access folders that you want to retain the new flag.

You are funny. I want to read the message before I decide to postpone the
answer.

Bye, Jörg.
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