Re: compose with mutt on a remote server
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 05:42:09PM +0200, mess-mate wrote: > Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 08:30:12PM +0200, mess-mate wrote: > | > | > Well..no. > | > I've a remote machine were i keep all the email's for all the users > | > (virtual). > | > From my desktop i connect with courier-imap to the remote server and > | > access my mailboxes with mutt. This works very well for reading but > | > when i compose or reply to a message my own send-hooks, signature > | > etc.. (~/.mutt) of my desktop no longer works. > | > | OK. Since mutt runs on your desktop, it will read the ~/.mutt file(s) > | from your desktop machine. Copy them over. > > Do not change anything and where do i copy them over ? I think I misunderstood. Can you explain again? - You have a mail server. It runs Courier. Correct? - You have a desktop. You run mutt on the deskop. Mutt access the mails via IMAP. Correct? - Where is ~/.mutt? On the desktop or on the server? - What do you mean by "no longer works"? It seems that there was a time when it works, and now you changed something, and now it does not work anymore. Correct? What did you change? Thanks, Kai
mutt configuration: problem with getting mail
Hi all, i am new to mutt and am trying to configure it for the first time. I've tried setting up exim, getmail, procmail and mutt. When i send a mail, it reaches the destination alright, but i have problem receiving mails on my machine. Right now, there are 582 messages in my INBOX. When i try to invoke getmail using 'G' (as configured in my .muttrc), it shows msg 1/582 (71943 bytes) delivered . . . msg 581/582 (3410 bytes) delivered msg 582/582 (3411 bytes) delivered But when i check in my inbox, there are only 417 messages. They are not getting updated beyond that. If i do 'ls ~/mail/inbox/cur | wc -l' that again shows 417 messages. Why are the other messages not being delivered? Thanks for your help Regards, Arvind --- Following is my ~/.getmail/getmailrc [retriever] type = SimpleIMAPRetriever server = mbu.iisc.ernet.in username = arvind password = mailpassword move_on_delete = mail.deleted [destination] type = MDA_external path = /usr/bin/procmail --- And following is my ~/.muttrc set realname="Arvind Marathe" set from="Arvind Marathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" set mbox_type=maildir set mbox="~/mail/inbox/" set spoolfile="~/mail/inbox/" set folder="~/mail/" set record="~/mail/sent/" set sort=threads set sort_aux=last-date-received set include=yes macro indexG "!getmail\n" "Invoke getmail" macro pagerG "!getmail\n" "Invoke getmail" --- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: mutt configuration: problem with getting mail
Another problem: when i again open my account in webmail, all of the latest of the 582 mails which were unread are shown as 'read' after i had tried to receive them in mutt. But as i said, i can't find them in my mutt inbox. Arvind > Hi all, > i am new to mutt and am trying to configure it for the first time. I've tried > setting up exim, getmail, procmail and mutt. When i send a mail, it reaches > the > destination alright, but i have problem receiving mails on my machine. > > Right now, there are 582 messages in my INBOX. When i try to invoke getmail > using 'G' (as configured in my .muttrc), it shows > > msg 1/582 (71943 bytes) delivered > . > . > . > > msg 581/582 (3410 bytes) delivered > msg 582/582 (3411 bytes) delivered > > But when i check in my inbox, there are only 417 messages. They are not > getting > updated beyond that. If i do 'ls ~/mail/inbox/cur | wc -l' that again shows > 417 > messages. Why are the other messages not being delivered? > > Thanks for your help > Regards, > Arvind > > --- > > Following is my ~/.getmail/getmailrc > > [retriever] > type = SimpleIMAPRetriever > server = mbu.iisc.ernet.in > username = arvind > password = mailpassword > move_on_delete = mail.deleted > > [destination] > type = MDA_external > path = /usr/bin/procmail > --- > > And following is my ~/.muttrc > > set realname="Arvind Marathe" > set from="Arvind Marathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" > set mbox_type=maildir > set mbox="~/mail/inbox/" > set spoolfile="~/mail/inbox/" > set folder="~/mail/" > set record="~/mail/sent/" > > set sort=threads > set sort_aux=last-date-received > > set include=yes > > macro indexG "!getmail\n" "Invoke getmail" > macro pagerG "!getmail\n" "Invoke getmail" > > --- > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: mutt configuration: problem with getting mail
Dear Arvind, On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:54:33PM +0530, Arvind Marathe wrote: > Another problem: when i again open my account in webmail, all of the latest of > the 582 mails which were unread are shown as 'read' after i had tried to > receive > them in mutt. But as i said, i can't find them in my mutt inbox. I think getmail marks messages as read once you receive them. In fact, it may so have happened that of your 582 messages, only 417 were new (unread), but getmail's claim to have delivered everything beats me. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 458, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600 036
Re: compose with mutt on a remote server
Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 05:42:09PM +0200, mess-mate wrote: | | > Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 08:30:12PM +0200, mess-mate wrote: | > | | > | > Well..no. | > | > I've a remote machine were i keep all the email's for all the users | > | > (virtual). | > | > From my desktop i connect with courier-imap to the remote server and | > | > access my mailboxes with mutt. This works very well for reading but | > | > when i compose or reply to a message my own send-hooks, signature | > | > etc.. (~/.mutt) of my desktop no longer works. | > | | > | OK. Since mutt runs on your desktop, it will read the ~/.mutt file(s) | > | from your desktop machine. Copy them over. | > | > Do not change anything and where do i copy them over ? | | I think I misunderstood. Can you explain again? | | - You have a mail server. It runs Courier. Correct? correct | | - You have a desktop. You run mutt on the deskop. Mutt access the | mails via IMAP. Correct? correct | | - Where is ~/.mutt? On the desktop or on the server? on the desktop | | - What do you mean by "no longer works"? It seems that there was a | time when it works, and now you changed something, and now it does | not work anymore. Correct? What did you change? I mean with 'no longer works' that my ~/.mutt is no more considered, no more used, when i compose or reply like at this moment, to a message. There is no smtp problem; the sendmail of postfix send the message. I've tryed this: I setted-up a virtual mailbox on the desktop, also /home/vmail/..., to see what it does and yes the results are the same. So no matter if the mailbox stays on a separate server or on the same desktop; it seems a virtual question mutt can't use properly. And this: copied my ~/.mutt on the virtual what have no sense of course. Nothing help. mess-mate
Re: mutt configuration: problem with getting mail
On 9/11/07, Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think getmail marks messages as read once you receive them. In fact, > it may so have happened that of your 582 messages, only 417 were new > (unread), but getmail's claim to have delivered everything beats me. The OP's getmailrc calls procmail. Does .procmailrc contain the standard recipe for deleting duplicates? Checking that (and your procmail log, if you're using one) will be helpful. Breen -- Breen Mullins Menlo Park, Calif.
Re: compose with mutt on a remote server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, September 11 at 07:59 PM, quoth mess-mate: >> - You have a mail server. It runs Courier. Correct? > >correct > >> - You have a desktop. You run mutt on the deskop. Mutt access >> the mails via IMAP. Correct? > >correct > >> - Where is ~/.mutt? On the desktop or on the server? > >on the desktop > >> - What do you mean by "no longer works"? It seems that there was >> a time when it works, and now you changed something, and now it >> does not work anymore. Correct? What did you change? > >I mean with 'no longer works' that my ~/.mutt is no more considered, >no more used, when i compose or reply like at this moment, to a >message. So, if I understand correctly: when you compose a new message, you have some configuration (hooks, I presume?) that gets triggered. But when you reply to messages, these hooks are not triggered. Correct? Can you give us an example? ~Kyle - -- As we enjoy great Advantages from the Inventions of others we should be glad of an Opportunity to serve others by any Invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously. -- Benjamin Franklin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iD8DBQFG5t2CBkIOoMqOI14RAmwTAKDD3OheHYhkET3yUiMu3xTKBrkz2gCeKFti bJfMSFURr4Q3juSC2tolgpw= =hYi1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: mutt configuration: problem with getting mail
Following is my .procmailrc, if that is any help --- MAILDIR=$HOME/mail/ LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmaillog VERBOSE=no :0 inbox/ --- And this is my ~/.procmaillog --- >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 19 15:01:19 2007 Subject: orkut - Invitation to join from aditi kanhere Folder: inbox/new/1182245479.16098_0.orion 3088 --- The message mentioned in the .procmaillog is the 417th mail message. Does all this give any hint to the experienced guys? I'm clueless )-: Arvind > On 9/11/07, Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I think getmail marks messages as read once you receive them. In fact, >> it may so have happened that of your 582 messages, only 417 were new >> (unread), but getmail's claim to have delivered everything beats me. > > The OP's getmailrc calls procmail. Does .procmailrc contain the > standard recipe for deleting duplicates? > > Checking that (and your procmail log, if you're using one) will be helpful. > > Breen > > -- > Breen Mullins > Menlo Park, Calif. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: mutt configuration: problem with getting mail
Some more info: I found out that all my mails were sitting in the file /var/mail/arvind, realised that exim had by default set "Delivery method for local mail:" to "mbox format in /var/mail/". I changed it to "Maildir format in home directory". Not sure if that was the cause of the problem but still i am left with the old 417 messages, updating getmail again claims to deliver nearly 600 messages, but they are not anywhere in ~/mail/inbox. Arvind ps: My localhost is behind a firewall. The firewall is 'manju.mbu.iisc.ernet.in', the localhost is 'orion.mbu.iisc.ernet.in'. I am attaching the file /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf below. Please point out if there is anything wrong with exim configuration. -- # /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf # # Edit this file and /etc/mailname by hand and execute update-exim4.conf # yourself or use 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' # # Please note that this is _not_ a dpkg-conffile and that automatic changes # to this file might happen. The code handling this will honor your local # changes, so this is usually fine, but will break local schemes that mess # around with multiple versions of the file. # # update-exim4.conf uses this file to determine variable values to replace # the DEBCONFsomethingDEBCONF strings in the configuration template files. # # Most settings found in here do have corresponding questions in the # Debconf configuration, but not all of them. # # This is a Debian specific file dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost' dc_other_hostnames='manju.mbu.iisc.ernet.in' dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1' dc_readhost='orion.mbu.iisc.ernet.in' dc_relay_domains='' dc_minimaldns='false' dc_relay_nets='' dc_smarthost='mbu.iisc.ernet.in' CFILEMODE='644' dc_use_split_config='true' dc_hide_mailname='true' dc_mailname_in_oh='true' dc_localdelivery='maildir_home' > Following is my .procmailrc, if that is any help > --- > MAILDIR=$HOME/mail/ > LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmaillog > VERBOSE=no > :0 > inbox/ > --- > > And this is my ~/.procmaillog > --- > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun > 19 15:01:19 2007 > Subject: orkut - Invitation to join from aditi kanhere > Folder: inbox/new/1182245479.16098_0.orion 3088 > --- > > The message mentioned in the .procmaillog is the 417th mail message. Does all > this give any hint to the experienced guys? I'm clueless )-: > > Arvind > > >> On 9/11/07, Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> I think getmail marks messages as read once you receive them. In fact, >>> it may so have happened that of your 582 messages, only 417 were new >>> (unread), but getmail's claim to have delivered everything beats me. >> >> The OP's getmailrc calls procmail. Does .procmailrc contain the >> standard recipe for deleting duplicates? >> >> Checking that (and your procmail log, if you're using one) will be helpful. >> >> Breen >> >> -- >> Breen Mullins >> Menlo Park, Calif. >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: mutt configuration: problem with getting mail
* Arvind Marathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-11-07 15:43]: > Some more info: > I found out that all my mails were sitting in the file /var/mail/arvind, > realised that exim had by default set > "Delivery method for local mail:" > to > "mbox format in /var/mail/". > I changed it to > "Maildir format in home directory". > > Not sure if that was the cause of the problem but still i am left with the old > 417 messages, updating getmail again claims to deliver nearly 600 messages, > but > they are not anywhere in ~/mail/inbox. > > Arvind > > ps: My localhost is behind a firewall. The firewall is > 'manju.mbu.iisc.ernet.in', the localhost is 'orion.mbu.iisc.ernet.in'. I am > attaching the file /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf below. Please point out > if > there is anything wrong with exim configuration. > > -- > # /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf > # > # Edit this file and /etc/mailname by hand and execute update-exim4.conf > # yourself or use 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' > # > # Please note that this is _not_ a dpkg-conffile and that automatic changes > # to this file might happen. The code handling this will honor your local > # changes, so this is usually fine, but will break local schemes that mess > # around with multiple versions of the file. > # > # update-exim4.conf uses this file to determine variable values to replace > # the DEBCONFsomethingDEBCONF strings in the configuration template files. > # > # Most settings found in here do have corresponding questions in the > # Debconf configuration, but not all of them. > # > # This is a Debian specific file > > dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost' > dc_other_hostnames='manju.mbu.iisc.ernet.in' > dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1' > dc_readhost='orion.mbu.iisc.ernet.in' > dc_relay_domains='' > dc_minimaldns='false' > dc_relay_nets='' > dc_smarthost='mbu.iisc.ernet.in' > CFILEMODE='644' > dc_use_split_config='true' > dc_hide_mailname='true' > dc_mailname_in_oh='true' > dc_localdelivery='maildir_home' > > > > > Following is my .procmailrc, if that is any help > > --- > > MAILDIR=$HOME/mail/ > > LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmaillog > > VERBOSE=no > > :0 > > inbox/ > > --- > > > > And this is my ~/.procmaillog > > --- > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun > > 19 15:01:19 2007 > > Subject: orkut - Invitation to join from aditi kanhere > > Folder: inbox/new/1182245479.16098_0.orion 3088 > > --- > > > > The message mentioned in the .procmaillog is the 417th mail message. Does > > all > > this give any hint to the experienced guys? I'm clueless )-: > > > > Arvind > > > > > >> On 9/11/07, Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I think getmail marks messages as read once you receive them. In fact, > >>> it may so have happened that of your 582 messages, only 417 were new > >>> (unread), but getmail's claim to have delivered everything beats me. > >> > >> The OP's getmailrc calls procmail. Does .procmailrc contain the > >> standard recipe for deleting duplicates? > >> > >> Checking that (and your procmail log, if you're using one) will be helpful. > >> > >> Breen > >> > >> -- > >> Breen Mullins > >> Menlo Park, Calif. > >> > >> -- > >> This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >> believed to be clean. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. Well, procmail is *not* the problem as you are only telling procmail to delever *everything* to /home//Mail. not familiar with getmail, does it offer any logs and verbosity level. That would be the first place I would look. And lacking logs, the next thing would be to try to run it from the command line and capture and/or monitor the screen output to look for clues. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org
Re: Triple wrap
Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Monday, September 10 at 12:30 PM, quoth Meenal Pant: > > Does Mutt support Triple wrap ( sign,encrypt,sign)with smime or gpg ? > > If no, then what would be a way to achieve this? > > Mutt doesn't support this behavior. The way to get what you want would > probably to do all your encrypting manually, by piping the message to > gpg (you could codify it all in a macro, to avoid lots of retyping). > > While I recognize the importance of this to avoid surreptitious > forwarding, do you know of any email programs that *do* support > triple-wrapped (or whatever you want to call it) email? Most of the > folks I email to that can read encrypted mail either use a similar PGP > plugin that only supports Sign&Encrypt or use pine, which has the same > limitation. > > ~Kyle > > P.S. For anyone curious why the OP wants this, read: > http://world.std.com/~dtd/sign_encrypt/sign_encrypt7.html Thanks Kyle, I have read that Outlook and Outlook Express support *reading* triple wrap emails. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa995740.aspx Other than this I do not know any other email client that supports triple wrap. Meenal
Re: Triple wrap
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, September 11 at 03:44 PM, quoth Meenal Pant: > I have read that Outlook and Outlook Express support *reading* > triple wrap emails. > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa995740.aspx Other than > this I do not know any other email client that supports triple wrap. Ahh, I see, it's a function of S/MIMEv3. When you put it that way... I wouldn't be *too* surprised if mutt supported reading them as well. 'course, it's hard to test without a reliable way of *creating* such messages. :) ~Kyle - -- To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. -- Abraham Lincoln -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iD8DBQFG5wOjBkIOoMqOI14RAhtdAJ9FdwDpqWmfv7yhY0k/e4bUUBM4BQCggXJa eIlMTwDt1uctzfwqrE8V2j0= =Ua3U -END PGP SIGNATURE-
