Re: Following URLs under Cygwin-mutt
On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 11:45:27PM -0700, JeeBak Kim wrote: > * Thomas Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020909 23:03]: > > I have used various workarounds -- at one extreme, switch to > > Mozilla and re-type the URL -- but this is really inefficient > > if the task is to click my way through, say, a blog bulletin > > from Red Rock Eater (with lots of URLs). > > Hmm... does copy and paste not work in your cygwin environment? > Are you using the cygwin dos console? You might want to install > the rxvt cygwin package. It's much more friendlier ;). Yes, I do have this, and it works, but it comes up with a small font, default screen colors, doesn't seem to read my bash-environ settings, etc. Is all of this explained somewhere in one place (a book about XWindows??), or do you have to chase down the solutions to these various problems one-by-one through the man pages...? This is what has kept me using the cygwin dos console, which looks terrific since I customized the colors and fonts by right-clicking for the WIN2000 window properties. > ftp://ftp.mutt.org/mutt/contrib/urlview-0.9.tar.gz > > and that you couldn't use it in cygwin for some reason. I've > compiled it successfully in cygwin and it works perfectly as it > does in unix. After compiling and installing urlview in your As a non-programmer, I have not had good experience with compiling, but this one did compile right out of the box. Thanks!! > I hope this helps! This is a huge leap forward, many thanks! It's not quite ideal, in my opinion, because there are extra keystrokes involved in scrolling down and finding the URL again out of its original context. This is not a problem if there are just three or four URLs, but looks like it could get a bit tedious if working through a mail message that mentions 60 or so emails, such as a Red Rock Eater bulletin. Also, Netscape or Mozilla mail would show an already-clicked-on link in a different color, and that seems not to be the case with urlview. But I'm not complaining... -- this is worlds better than what I have been doing! Tom -- Dr. Thomas Baker[EMAIL PROTECTED] Institutszentrum Schloss Birlinghoven mobile +49-171-408-5784 Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft work +49-30-8109-9027 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germanyfax +49-2241-144-1408
Re: Following URLs under Cygwin-mutt
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 08:01:33AM +0200, Thomas Baker wrote: > It sounds like Gary Johnson's suggestion above (calling > Mozilla from w3m) could do the trick, though I guess what > I'd really like to do is hand the message off immediately to, > say, the mailer in Netscape or Mozilla. or lynx - depending. I noticed the 'M" feature in w3m last year and added comparable functionality to lynx - repeating the 'external' viewer lines in lynx.cfg makes it display a menu when invoking the external viewer. For example EXTERNAL:ftp:w3m %s:TRUE EXTERNAL:file:w3m %s:TRUE EXTERNAL:http:w3m %s:TRUE EXTERNAL:ftp:netscape %s:TRUE EXTERNAL:file:netscape %s:TRUE EXTERNAL:http:netscape %s:TRUE -- Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
new mail in sent-mail
Hi, Every time I send an email, my sent-mail box gets tagged with a new-mail N. This is good for *all* of my other mail directorys, but not not for sent-mail. I've tried various things in my .muttrc but to no avail. Is there any way of getting it so that this does not happen? Any help on this will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Keith
Re: new mail in sent-mail
* Keith Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-10 08:40]: > Every time I send an email, my sent-mail box gets tagged with a > new-mail N. This is good for *all* of my other mail directorys, but > not not for sent-mail. Do you have send-mail in $mailboxes? (darren) -- Maybe that's the only truth in the world. Not the Bibles or poetry or philosophy but just the old jokes. -- Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson
Re: new mail in sent-mail
Hi Keith What you could do instead of recording mail via the record variable is use fcc-hook. I do it to record my email in various places based on the addresses I send to. e.g. for mutt-users I have fcc-hook "~L mutt-users" "=archive-mutt-users" This way, the message is not tagged as new in the destination (I think). What you would do to store in sent-mail is fcc-hook "." "=sent-mail" But why does it annoy you to have messages marked as new in sent-mail? Do you have mutt to check sent-mail for new messages (sent-mail in mailboxes)? Enjoy! Erik
Changing attachment mime type
Hello, I found what seems to be a bug. Well, it IS a bug. Don't know if it is mutt's or LookOut's. I received a message from someone using outlook containing an email attached (*.eml). Unfortunately, outlook sends the attachment as "application/octet-stream", so mutt can't really recognize it automatically. Then I open the message in mutt, hit ctrl-e and change the type to "message/rfc822". After opening the message again, it displays its contents normally. Inside this attached message, there is an attached windows media movie (*.wmv). And AGAIN, it shows up wrongly, this time as a "text/plain". And there comes what I think might be a bug in mutt. In the pager, it displays the attachment as: [-- Type: video/x-ms-wmv, Encoding: base64, Size: 1.0M --] [-- video/x-ms-wmv is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] However, hitting "v" to view the message's attachments shows the attachment as: I 3 [text/plain, 7bit, 1.4M] Apparently, mutt displays the message correctly in the pager display (correct type, correct size). In attachment menu, it shows up encoded (bigger size, text/plain). I tried hitting ctrl-e in attachment menu to change it's type to video/x-ms-wmv, but it stills shows the same (only thing that changes is the text/plain to video/x-ms-wmv, but content is still the same, encoded). I know I can just save it to a file and try to decode it manually using the usual mime tools, but I wanted people to know about it, and enlighten me if this is not a bug in mutt (of course, the brokeness of outlook could do anything!). -- Bruno Lustosa, aka Lofofora | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator/Web Programmer | ICQ UIN: 1406477 Rio de Janeiro - Brazil | msg30841/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Compose macro question
Hi!
I want to make a compose macro that verifies the from-address and changes
the fcc according to that value...
perhaps something like:
compose V if ( == 'foo@bar' )then { = '=bla'}
Can you give me a hand on this?
Thanks a lot
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Re: Compose macro question
Pedro Alves ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> I want to make a compose macro that verifies the from-address and changes
> the fcc according to that value...
>
> perhaps something like:
>
> compose V if ( == 'foo@bar' )then { = '=bla'}
>
> Can you give me a hand on this?
What about fcc-hooks?
Michael
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Re: Compose macro question
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 04:08:44PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote:
> Pedro Alves ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> > I want to make a compose macro that verifies the from-address and changes
> > the fcc according to that value...
> >
> > perhaps something like:
> >
> > compose V if ( == 'foo@bar' )then { = '=bla'}
> >
> > Can you give me a hand on this?
>
> What about fcc-hooks?
>
> Michael
fcc hooks don't automatically update when I change from address. I change
the from address often and I can't fill the configuration file with all the
possible addresses. I'm not seeing other way..
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Re: Mutt guessing wrong encoding for outgoing PDFs?
On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 09:42:21AM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote: > Brian Grayson wrote: > > I downloaded 1.4 on Friday just to see, and the same problem > > occurs. The fundamental problem is once the CTE code sees a > > nonzero value of lobin, it goes into quoted, regardless of > > whether hibin is nonzero. The following patch does the right > > thing for my testcase here, but I don't know if there's a good > > reason why the lobin/quotable check currently ignores whether > > there are any hibins or not. > > > > After a bit of inspection, the file rep.5k has hibins and > > _no_ lobins, and hence goes properly into 8bit encoding. But > > the file rep1k has a lobin (0x0b at offset 0x340, for example), > > so it short-circuits into quoted-printable. Try mailing the > > base64-encoded version of that to yourself, and it should > > choose quotable, even in 1.4. > > Thanks for the extra info. I looked into this more closely, and I see > that there are a couple of factors that come into play into this > situation. First, I noticed that your PDF attachment was labeled > improperly as "text/plain". This is not so bad in itself, but that > piece of code that checks for which transfer encoding to use assumes > that it really is text, which is a problem. Since there was no > extension to the file, Mutt fell back into making a guess as to whether > or not the file was of type text/plain or appliation/octet-stream. Mutt > guessed text/plain because it saw only a few lobins in the file. > However, Mutt failed to notice that there were bare CRs in the file when > choosing the transfer encoding. The attach patch checks info->binary > even for the text/plain case. I just tested this and it correctly chose > base64 encoding for the file. Argggh! I found out the fundamental problem. It's not with the encoding type -- quoted-printable should be fine even in the presence of 8-bit characters (right?), except we have an Exchange server as our mail server. The Exchange mail server is apparently un-encoding the quoted-printable attachment, and then re-encoding it buggily. I visually verified this by telnet'ing to the SMTP port, and cut-and-pasting a MIME mail with a quoted-printable attachment. If I send that mail to \bgrayson, I get different results than if the mail goes through our Exchange server. So it appears to me that Exchange goes into the mail message and mucks around, and manages to also corrupt some mail while it's in there For example, I sent (and received from \bgrayson): %PDF-1.2=0D%=E2=E3=CF=D3=0D=0A317 0 obj=0D<< =0D/Linearized 1 =0D/O 319 =0D=/H [ 728 767 ] =0D/L 363450 =0D/E 62838 =0D/N 100 =0D/T 356991 =0D>> =0Dend= obj=0D xref=0D317 16 = When I let Exchange touch it, I end up with: %PDF-1.2=0D%=E2=E3=CF=D3 317 0 obj=0D<< =0D/Linearized 1 =0D/O 319 =0D/H [ 728 767 ] =0D/L = 363450 =0D/E 62838 =0D/N 100 =0D/T 356991 =0D>> =0Dendobj=0D= So, for a solution, is there an easy way for me to tell mutt, "Never use quoted-printable because the world unfortunately has Exchange servers"? Has anyone else seen this problem? Thanks. And sorry about the wild goose chase -- I didn't realize until now that quoted-printable should be able to handle arbitrary binaries without corruption (at least I _think_ it should be able to do so). (Microsoft just lost more respect from me. Which is amazing, since I didn't think there was any more to lose!) Brian
local date
Greets. Is there any intuitive way to get the ``Date:'' header (as shown in the pager) to always show the time converted to my local time zone, or GMT, or any given time zone so long as it's consistent across all messages? Thanks, Keith
Re: local date
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:09:05PM -0400, Keith R. John Warno wrote:
> Is there any intuitive way to get the ``Date:'' header (as shown in the
> pager) to always show the time converted to my local time zone?
Well, I don't know how intutive it is, but there is an easy way to do it.
Simply replace %d with %D in the value of the $index_format
configuration variable. If you have't specified a custom $index_format,
the default is "%4C%Z%{%b %d} %-15.15L (%4l)%s", so if you set it to
"%4C%Z%{%b %D} %-15.15L (%4l)%s" you should be good.
That is, you need to put
set index_format="%4C%Z%{%b %D} %-15.15L (%4l)%s"
in your .muttrc or .mutt/muttrc.
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Re: local date
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:48:19PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> Simply replace %d with %D in the value of the $index_format
Whups, I lied. I mean, that would be correct if you were using
%d *outside* of %{...}, but stuff inside %{...} is strftime(3) format
characters, not mutt format characters. To use local time
instead of sender's time with the same strftime format,
just change the {} to []:
set index_format="%4C%Z%[%b %d] %-15.15L (%4l)%s"
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Re: local date
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:58:54PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:48:19PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: > set index_format="%4C%Z%[%b %d] %-15.15L (%4l)%s" To see the local time as well as the date in the pager, you might also want to set 'pager_format'. This is what I use: set pager_format="%4C %Z %[!%b %e at %I:%M %p] %.20n %s" # This format is arranged more # like the index_format and # includes the local time at # which the message was sent. # Default: "-%Z- %C/%m: %-20.20n %s" HTH, Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: local date
- On Tue, 10.Sep.2002, 13:58EDT, Mark J. Reed uttered:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:48:19PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> > Simply replace %d with %D in the value of the $index_format
> Whups, I lied. I mean, that would be correct if you were using
> %d *outside* of %{...}, but stuff inside %{...} is strftime(3) format
> characters, not mutt format characters. To use local time
> instead of sender's time with the same strftime format,
> just change the {} to []:
>
> set index_format="%4C%Z%[%b %d] %-15.15L (%4l)%s"
>
Ah yes this works well for the index itself. Thanks! However it would
be useful to do the same conversion-to-local-TZ for the 'Date:' header
in the pager. Any ideas?
Regards,
Keith
Re: local date
- On Tue, 10.Sep.2002, 15:05EDT, Gary Johnson uttered: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:58:54PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:48:19PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: > > > set index_format="%4C%Z%[%b %d] %-15.15L (%4l)%s" > > To see the local time as well as the date in the pager, you might also > want to set 'pager_format'. This is what I use: > > set pager_format="%4C %Z %[!%b %e at %I:%M %p] %.20n %s" > # This format is arranged more > # like the index_format and > # includes the local time at > # which the message was sent. > # Default: "-%Z- %C/%m: %-20.20n %s" > > HTH, > Gary D'oh! That's the trick. Thanks a bunch to you and Mark for the quick feedback. I'll RTFM... again. :) -- "Isn't it time we care and lose the hate Understand our fears" -- Dream Theater, "Blind Faith"
mutt + procmail + qmail
Hey people, I just starting using qmail with Maildir format. I'm a long-time Mutt, Procmail and mbox user. Does anyone have an example .procmailrc file, and .muttrc file, for working with Maildir format? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix HTML Email Considered Harmful: http://expita.com/nomime.html msg30852/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt + procmail + qmail
* "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020911 01:13]: > I just starting using qmail with Maildir format. I'm a long-time Mutt, > Procmail and mbox user. Does anyone have an example .procmailrc file, and > .muttrc file, for working with Maildir format? # cat ~/.qmail |preline procmail -t ~/.procmailrc # cat ~/.procmailrc DEFAULT="~/Maildir/" #cat ~/.muttrc mailboxes ~/Maildir/ This requires a version of procmail that understands Maildir and an existing Maildir (use maildirmake). Note that procmail has a slightly non-standard way of handling Maildirs (at least the version I'm using...) -Johan -- Johan Almqvist http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/
Re: mutt + procmail + qmail
On 11/09/02 Johan Almqvist did speaketh: > # cat ~/.qmail > |preline procmail -t ~/.procmailrc > > # cat ~/.procmailrc > DEFAULT="~/Maildir/" > > #cat ~/.muttrc > mailboxes ~/Maildir/ I take it that your other mail folders then would be sub-folders of ~/Maildir? My sysadmin recently told me that was a bad idea. Can I see a filtering example from your .procmailrc? Say, to filter this mailing list? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix HTML Email Considered Harmful: http://expita.com/nomime.html msg30854/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt + procmail + qmail
* Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [11 Sep 2002 09:58]: > On 11/09/02 Johan Almqvist did speaketh: [...] > Can I see a filtering example from your .procmailrc? Say, to filter > this mailing list? :0: * ^Sender: owner-mutt-(dev|users)@mutt.org apps-mutt/ Basically, it's just like an mbox line, only you have the slash at the end. It's also important that you create any maildirs rather than just assume procmail will create them. cheers, -- Iain.
Re: mutt + procmail + qmail
- On Tue, 10.Sep.2002, 22:00EDT, Keith R. John Warno uttered: > (Every dir below ~/Mail is assumed to be in maildir format; this picks > up things like sent-mail and postponed and other fcc locations, so mutt > winds up claiming things like 'new mail in =sent-mail' after sending a > mail out, but this is OK for me.) > Hrmm well actually not for =sent-mail, which is a good thing. But it does alert about 'new mail' in =postponed which is not a bad thing either. :) Ciao, Keith. -- "Isn't it time we care and lose the hate Understand our fears" -- Dream Theater, "Blind Faith"
Re: mutt + procmail + qmail
- On Tue, 10.Sep.2002, 19:58EDT, Michael P. Soulier uttered: > On 11/09/02 Johan Almqvist did speaketh: > > > # cat ~/.qmail > > |preline procmail -t ~/.procmailrc > > > > # cat ~/.procmailrc > > DEFAULT="~/Maildir/" > > > > #cat ~/.muttrc > > mailboxes ~/Maildir/ > > I take it that your other mail folders then would be sub-folders of > ~/Maildir? My sysadmin recently told me that was a bad idea. > [snip] Smack your sysadmin. Maildir format, that is 'extended maildir' format, happily allows for nested maildirs. You wind up with structure that looks like: foo/ foo/cur/ foo/new/ foo/tmp/ foo/.bar/ foo/.bar/cur/ foo/.bar/new/ foo/.bar/tmp/ .bar is obviously a 'sub-folder' of foo; extended-maildir-aware mail clients should strip the dot and just show it to you as 'bar'. mutt, from what I've seen, doesn't do this. It shows you verbatim: foo/.bar/, which is fine for me. :) I don't use procmail but rather maildrop which knows about maildirs (extended), along with qmail. My ~/.qmail: $ cat .qmail # simple one-liner |maildrop I've got maildrop delivering to ~/Mail/INBOX/ by default (ie, when no other rule is satisfied). List mail winds up in a structure like: ~/Mail/lists/.mutt/ ~/Mail/lists/.kernel/ ...etc Note that ~/Mail/lists/ is itself a maildir (although I don't use it for receiving mail currently). The ~/.mutt/muttrc contains: set folder=~/Mail set mbox_type=Maildir set spoolfile=~/Mail/INBOX mailboxes `mdirs` `mdirs` is a simple shell script to find all the maildirs: #!/bin/bash # exec find ~/Mail -type d -mindepth 1 \ \( -name tmp -o -name cur -o -name new \ -prune \) \ -o \ \( -type d -mindepth 1 -printf '"%p" ' \) (Every dir below ~/Mail is assumed to be in maildir format; this picks up things like sent-mail and postponed and other fcc locations, so mutt winds up claiming things like 'new mail in =sent-mail' after sending a mail out, but this is OK for me.) Anyway, good luck! Sorry I don't have any procmail recipes. :/ Regards, Keith.
Re: mutt + procmail + qmail
* "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020911 01:58]: > Can I see a filtering example from your .procmailrc? Say, to filter this > mailing list? No, because the address subscribed to this list is johan-mutt and I have #cat .qmail-mutt ~/Maildir/.mutt/ That's a lot better that filtering based on some header... -Johan -- Johan Almqvist http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/
