Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i
Hi, * Derrick 'dman' Hudson [02-07-14 06:02:40 +0200] wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:08:52PM -0500, David T-G wrote: > | Hmmm... Perhaps I've misunderstood envelope; I thought that it was all > | of the headers. > No, the envelope normally isn't in the headers at all. It will only > appear there if you configure your MTA to add 'Return-Path:' and > 'Envelope-To:' headers. Doesn't a receiving MTA set the value of Return-Path: to the result of MAIL FROM? bye, Rocco
Re: how not to encrypt
Hi, * Derrick 'dman' Hudson [02-07-14 05:32:12 +0200] wrote: > Mark Reed suggested, off-list, to try Ctrl-G. Ctrl-G > works, but isn't mentioned in the list of keys/commands > when I press '?'. Ctrl+G is the general abort key not only used in the compose menu, IIRC. bye, Rocco
Re: sort options -- threads/date-received , in reverse order
Hi, * Derrick 'dman' Hudson [02-07-14 05:32:13 +0200] wrote: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 03:22:32AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: [...] > | set sort=threads > | set sort_aux=reverse-date-received > That doesn't achieve the effect I want. Here is an example : [...] > Notice how the thread itself is in 'date-received' order. > However, I want the threads (eg if I collapse-all and then only count > the visible messages) to be reverse-date-received. > Does this make sense now? Do you see how what I want is different > from 'sort=threads sort_aux=reverse-date-received'? I think I got it. You want all threads to be reverse-date sorted. And per thread and threading-level you want the messages sorted by date received. Is that correct now? ,[ ~/docs/software/mutt/manual-1.5.1.txt ]- | | 6.3.254 sort_aux | | Type: sort order | | Default: date | | When sorting by threads, this variable controls how threads | are sorted in relation to other threads, and how the | branches of the thread trees are sorted. `- So, you'll have to sort by threads and find something to use for $sort_aux which fits your needs. You want a thread internally sorted by 'date-received' and externally by 'reverse-date-received'. That doesn't seem to be possible since $sort_aux is used for both. bye, Rocco
About outgoing mail
About outgoing mail === I'm actually planing to switch from the evolution GUI-MUA to mutt. In order to perform this task I must first setup some options in order to be able to handle my daily mail with mutt. I've successfully setup incoming mail filtering, mailing list handling and some other important configurations but now I need to setup mutt in order to be able to handle my different mail profiles. I have three mail adresses (profiles) so I want to filter my outgoing mail, written by one of the three profiles in an apropiate mbox folder for the given profile. Eg: If I write a mail with "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is it possible to record this sent mail not in the default record mbox but in a different "/sent/eim" mbox ? And the same for [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for any help, folks ! Have a nice day, - Ivo -- »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« Ivo Marino[EMAIL PROTECTED] UN*X Developer, running Debian GNU/Linux irc.OpenProjects.net #debian http://eimbox.org/~eim http://eimbox.org »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »« »«
Re: About outgoing mail
Hi, * eim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-07-14 15:14]: >I have three mail adresses (profiles) so I want to filter my outgoing >mail, written by one of the three profiles in an apropiate mbox folder >for the given profile. > >Eg: If I write a mail with "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is it possible to record >this sent mail not in the default record mbox but in a different >"/sent/eim" mbox ? And the same for [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I change my address for each mailing list, so this may be a good start: send-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' You should be able to replace this with a hook on your own. Untested: send-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set record=/sent/eim' You should add default hooks if you want to keeo the default behavior for any setting. send-hook . 'set record=default' Thorsten -- Politik kann man in diesem Lande definieren als die Durchsetzung wirtschaftlicher Zwecke mit Hilfe der Gesetzgebung. - Kurt Tucholsky
Re: About outgoing mail
eim ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > I have three mail adresses (profiles) so I want to filter my outgoing > mail, written by one of the three profiles in an apropiate mbox folder > for the given profile. > > Eg: If I write a mail with "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is it possible to record > this sent mail not in the default record mbox but in a different > "/sent/eim" mbox ? And the same for [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make one rcfiles for each adress. And write macros to switch between them. ie. macro generic ,1 "source ~/.mutt/eimbox-profile "Become [EMAIL PROTECTED]" where ~/.mutt/eimbox-profile is ie: my_hdr From: ein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> set record=/sent/eimbox ... HTH, Michael -- linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste ([EMAIL PROTECTED] put this on Tshirts in '93) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: Wrong Signature with GPG -> gpg.rc
Hi, * Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-07-13 15:56]: >> We have two cases: One is verified by GPG but not by Mutt, >> the other one is rejected by both GPG and Mutt. > >The second case is solved for me since those mails made the >broken GMX mbox parser react. Oh well, so I have the same problem with a different reason. >Shouldn't this discussion be off list? I'm not sure. As I said, Mutt seems to be involved more than other MUAs. I also don't know where else to look, as I don't have other systematic problems with my mails. Thorsten -- Sometimes it seems things go by too quickly. We are so busy watching out for what's just ahead of us that we don't take the time to enjoy where we are. - Calvin
Re: Wrong Signature with GPG -> gpg.rc
Moin, * Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-07-13 20:17]: >* Thorsten Haude [02-07-13 15:24:58 +0200] wrote: >> We have two cases: One is verified by GPG but not by Mutt, > >Well, I've been asking in a de.ALL newsgroup for help on >this issue. The solution (which works, whhooo! ;-) is: > > + set pgp_good_sign="^\\[GNUPG:\\] VALIDSIG" > + add '--status-fd=2' to the following commands: >pgp_decode_command >pgp_verify_command >pgp_decrypt_command Doesn't work here. I get the additional status line, but still no verification. I'll subscribe with an address from another subscriber to see if there's any difference. Thorsten -- Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Isaac Asimov
Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > FWIW I like exim the best and postfix next. hmm, installing MTAs like postfix or exim just to do smtp, seems to be overkill. Alternatives: nullmailer (and maybe: Anubis, MasqMail,...) http://untroubled.org/nullmailer/ http://anubis.sourceforge.net/ http://www.innominate.org/~oku/masqmail/ Greetings, Mark
Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i
On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 01:55:15PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: | * Derrick 'dman' Hudson [02-07-14 06:02:40 +0200] wrote: | > On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:08:52PM -0500, David T-G wrote: | | > | Hmmm... Perhaps I've misunderstood envelope; I thought that it was all | > | of the headers. | | > No, the envelope normally isn't in the headers at all. It will only | > appear there if you configure your MTA to add 'Return-Path:' and | > 'Envelope-To:' headers. | | Doesn't a receiving MTA set the value of Return-Path: to the | result of MAIL FROM? IFF you configured it to do so. At least some MTAs don't put a Return-Path: header in by default. Also, what happens in the case of MTA1 delivering the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then the user uses fetchmail to re-deliver it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? That could result in 2 Return-Path: headers ... The envelope really is separate from the rest of the message (headers+body), but some MTAs can be / are configured to store it in the headers of the message for the convenience of the final recipient. -D -- Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a beautiful woman who shows no discretion. Proverbs 11:22 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29634/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how not to encrypt
On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 01:57:03PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: | Hi, | | * Derrick 'dman' Hudson [02-07-14 05:32:12 +0200] wrote: | > Mark Reed suggested, off-list, to try Ctrl-G. Ctrl-G | > works, but isn't mentioned in the list of keys/commands | > when I press '?'. | | Ctrl+G is the general abort key not only used in the compose | menu, IIRC. Oh, nice! It really should be mentioned in the help page. You've just shown me how to back out of the "Really delete messages?" question without (a) deleting marked messages or (b) unmarking marked messges (and without killing mutt). Thanks! -D -- Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. Psalms 119:105 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29635/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vpopmail qmail-pop3d and qmail
ian forsyth wrote: > Hi, > > I have recently set up qmail/vpopmail using pop3d. I wondering if > there are any resources available to help me setup mutt to work with > vpopmail's Maildirs /home/vpopmail/domains/my.com/usr/Maildir > > thanks > Ian >
Re: sort options -- threads/date-received , in reverse order
On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 02:15:10PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: | * Derrick 'dman' Hudson [02-07-14 05:32:13 +0200] wrote: | > On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 03:22:32AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: | > | set sort=threads | > | set sort_aux=reverse-date-received | | > That doesn't achieve the effect I want. Here is an example : | | [...] | | > Notice how the thread itself is in 'date-received' order. | | > However, I want the threads (eg if I collapse-all and then only count | > the visible messages) to be reverse-date-received. | | > Does this make sense now? Do you see how what I want is different | > from 'sort=threads sort_aux=reverse-date-received'? | | I think I got it. You want all threads to be reverse-date | sorted. And per thread and threading-level you want the | messages sorted by date received. Is that correct now? Yes, that is correct. | ,[ ~/docs/software/mutt/manual-1.5.1.txt ]- | | | | 6.3.254 sort_aux | | When sorting by threads, this variable controls how threads | | are sorted in relation to other threads, and how the | | branches of the thread trees are sorted. | `- | | So, you'll have to sort by threads and find something to use | for $sort_aux which fits your needs. You want a thread | internally sorted by 'date-received' and externally by | 'reverse-date-received'. That doesn't seem to be possible | since $sort_aux is used for both. Yeah, I was afraid it wasn't possible right now. What is the formal method for submitting a feature request, along with some ideas on how the feature could be handled? (eg a $sort_aux_threads variable for intra-thread sorting, which only has effect if sort=(reverse-)?threads) -D -- He who finds a wife finds what is good and receives favor from the Lord. Proverbs 18:22 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29637/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i
* Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-14 13:19 -0500]: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 01:55:15PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: > | * Derrick 'dman' Hudson [02-07-14 06:02:40 +0200] wrote: > | > On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 10:08:52PM -0500, David T-G wrote: > | > | > | Hmmm... Perhaps I've misunderstood envelope; I thought that it was all > | > | of the headers. > | > | > No, the envelope normally isn't in the headers at all. It will only > | > appear there if you configure your MTA to add 'Return-Path:' and > | > 'Envelope-To:' headers. > | > | Doesn't a receiving MTA set the value of Return-Path: to the > | result of MAIL FROM? > > IFF you configured it to do so. At least some MTAs don't put a > Return-Path: header in by default. > > Also, what happens in the case of MTA1 delivering the message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED], then the user uses fetchmail to re-deliver it to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]? That could result in 2 Return-Path: > headers ... IIRC fetchmail removes the header. Nicolas
vpopmail qmail-pop3d and qmail
Hi, I have recently set up qmail/vpopmail using pop3d. I wondering if there are any resources available to help me setup mutt to work with vpopmail's Maildirs /home/vpopmail/domains/my.com/usr/Maildir thanks Ian
Re: newbie question on binding
On 18:41 12 Jul 2002, Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | * Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-12 12:11]: | > On Fri,Jul12,2002at10:04:45PM+1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: | > > Might want to check your backspace is actually sending ^H and not ^?. | > > Type: ^V | > > That's control-V and then the backspace key. What does it show? | > It sends the ^?. | | that's the "delete" character - not the backspace one. Which means, in case Sven wasn't clear enough, that you should be binding instead of . Or remap your keyboard - personally I wish the BackSpace key to always send ^H, but many Linux default setups seem to make it send ^?. However, this is a much harder job. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson, DoD#743[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/ Vikings? There ain't no vikings here. Just us honest farmers. The town was burning, the villagers were dead. They didn't need those sheep anyway. That's our story and we're sticking to it. - Dan Sorenson, DoD 1066, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from, realname, my_hdr "From:"
I just installed Debian woody with Mutt 1.3.28i, and I've discovered a puzzling behavior that wasn't in the Mutt that came with Mandrake 8.0 nor any other Mutt I've ever used. I made a simple muttrc with just > set from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > set realname="Daniel J. Peng" Now I expected that when I started writing an email in Mutt, Mutt would construct a default From header consisting of my email and realname, but instead the From header is completely blank. If I type ":set from" or ":set realname", my email and realname do appear properly. Has anybody else seen this behavior? Is this a new "feature" of Mutt 1.3.28i? Or is this some pecularity of Debian's package? mutt -v reports: > Mutt 1.3.28i (2002-03-13) > Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. > Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. > Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it > under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. > > System: Linux 2.4.18-686 (i686) [using ncurses 5.2] > Compile options: > -DOMAIN > -DEBUG > -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE > +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK > +USE_POP +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL +USE_GNUTLS +USE_SASL > +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX > +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET > +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM > +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT > +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +COMPRESSED +HAVE_WC_FUNCS > +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR > +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_GETSID +HAVE_GETADDRINFO > ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" > SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" > MAILPATH="/var/mail" > PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt" > SYSCONFDIR="/etc" > EXECSHELL="/bin/sh" > MIXMASTER="mixmaster" > To contact the developers, please mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility. > > patch-1.5.tlr.mx_open_append.2 > patch-1.3.28.cvs.indexsegfault > patch-1.3.27.bse.xtitles.1 > patch-1.3.26.appoct.3 > patch-1.3.15.sw.pgp-outlook.1 > patch-1.3.27.admcd.gnutls.19 > Md.use_editor > Md.paths_mutt.man > Md.muttbug_no_list > Md.use_etc_mailname > Md.muttbug_warning > Md.gpg_status_fd > patch-1.3.24.rr.compressed.1 > patch-1.3.25.cd.edit_threads.9.1 > patch-1.3.23.1.ametzler.pgp_good_sign -- There ain't nothin' in this world that's worth being a snot over. -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux peng 2.4.18-686 #1 Sun Apr 14 11:32:47 EST 2002 i686 unknown 21:22:44 up 17:07, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.07
Re: from, realname, my_hdr "From:"
On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 09:37:03PM -0400, Daniel J Peng wrote: | I just installed Debian woody with Mutt 1.3.28i, and I've discovered a | puzzling behavior that wasn't in the Mutt that came with Mandrake 8.0 | nor any other Mutt I've ever used. I made a simple muttrc with just | | > set from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" | > set realname="Daniel J. Peng" | | Now I expected that when I started writing an email in Mutt, Mutt | would construct a default From header consisting of my email and | realname, but instead the From header is completely blank. What happens if you add set use_from to it? | If I type ":set from" or ":set realname", my email and realname do | appear properly. That's odd. | Has anybody else seen this behavior? Is this a new "feature" of Mutt | 1.3.28i? Or is this some pecularity of Debian's package? I use debian, and have used at least versions 1.2.5, 1.3.28, and 1.4.0 from the debian packages. HTH, -D -- If your company is not involved in something called "ISO 9000" you probably have no idea what it is. If your company _is_ involved in ISO 9000 then you definitely have no idea what it is. (Scott Adams - The Dilbert principle) http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29642/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mutt and mail list issue
I am subscriped to a mail list that will net let me post using my config of Mutt 1.4i, which I suspect being a new user of mutt, might be a common problem or one easily overcome. Maybe I could tossed some ideas. They send back a notice saying they do not allow attachments. I am wondering how to change the config for the mail list in question ? Thanks- /Dee
Re: Mutt and mail list issue
Hi, * W. D. McKinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-07-15 06:20]: >I am subscriped to a mail list that will net let me post using my config >of Mutt 1.4i, which I suspect being a new user of mutt, might be a >common problem or one easily overcome. Maybe I could tossed some ideas. >They send back a notice saying they do not allow attachments. I am >wondering how to change the config for the mail list in question ? This mail sure looks ok and contains no attachments. You may want to check yourself for the mails you send to the other mailing list: Just press v to view the attachments. If you want to check the raw mail, use the following macro: macro pager \el "|less\n" 'View plain message using less' Thorsten -- The history of Liberty is a history of the limitation of government power. - Woodrow Wilson
Fwd: Internet.Com Format Error
I have attached the e-mail sent to me from the list saying no go on me sending via Mutt. Hmmm.. wonder whats up ? /Dee --- Begin Message --- Sorry, your email containing an attachment can not be distributed through the Internet.Com. The only acceptable format for posting to the Internet.Com is ASCII Text, with NO attachments. Please, re-send your post to continue your discussion on the Internet.Com. --- End Message ---
Re: Fwd: Internet.Com Format Error
Hi, * W. D. McKinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-07-15 07:07]: >I have attached the e-mail sent to me from the list saying >no go on me sending via Mutt. > >Hmmm.. wonder whats up ? You may want to post one of the rejected mails. Thorsten -- Politik kann man in diesem Lande definieren als die Durchsetzung wirtschaftlicher Zwecke mit Hilfe der Gesetzgebung. - Kurt Tucholsky
Mail to this list using Mutt
Is list maintainer Jim on-line tonight ? If, please reply off line. CC'd to the mutt-users list. /Dee
Re: enhanced list support idea
Hi Derrick, > Problem : > Sometimes a message received via a mailing list, but doesn't > mention the list in any of the recipient headers. (eg a member > bounced an off-list reply back to the list) Mutt's list-reply > function doesn't recognize any lists in that case. > Solution (my idea) : > For MLMs that include a List-Post: header, I think it would be > useful if mutt would (or could) use that to derive the address of > the list. I'd just say that this "List-Post:" header is highly MLM dependent. If you're planning to implement this, you should certainly provide the user a mean to specify the different headers fields which can be used. For instance, set list_regexp="(X-Mailing-List|X-BeenThere|List-Id|List-Post|X-List)" My 0.2 eurocents, -- Cedric
Fcc default to domain name
How would I set the default Fcc to the domain name of the recipient, omitting the tld part (.com or whatever). This would also be useful as a default save-hook. -- Eric Smith
