Re: FreeBSD compile errors

2002-06-02 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Udo Schweigert [2002-06-02 09:16:00 CEST] wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 21:58:11 +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:

> > [ errors building 1.4 on FreeBSD ]

> > ,-
> || pdmef@klaus:~$ pkg_info -L iconv-2.0_1
> || Information for iconv-2.0_1:
> || /usr/local/include/iconv.h
> || /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so
> || /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.2
> > `-

> The iconv port is now at 2.0_3 and no longer installs a
> libiconv.so, instead it is called libbiconv.so. This
> library is a way not standard and did not work for
> mutt-1.3.x.

I know that this has recently changed.

> Please update both ports and try again.

No, I won't unless those 'old' ports completely break things
up.

I've just seen that you are responsible for the mutt-dev
port (true?). So, does mail/mutt move to 1.4 and
mail/mutt-dev to 1.5.1?

Cheers, Rocco



Re: FreeBSD compile errors

2002-06-02 Thread Udo Schweigert

On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 10:36:25 +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> * Udo Schweigert [2002-06-02 09:16:00 CEST] wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 21:58:11 +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote:
> 
> >> [ errors building 1.4 on FreeBSD ]
> 
> >> ,-
> ||| pdmef@klaus:~$ pkg_info -L iconv-2.0_1
> ||| Information for iconv-2.0_1:
> ||| /usr/local/include/iconv.h
> ||| /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so
> ||| /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.2
> >> `-
> 
>> The iconv port is now at 2.0_3 and no longer installs a
>> libiconv.so, instead it is called libbiconv.so. This
>> library is a way not standard and did not work for
>> mutt-1.3.x.
> 
> I know that this has recently changed.
> 
>> Please update both ports and try again.
> 
> No, I won't unless those 'old' ports completely break things
> up.
> 
> I've just seen that you are responsible for the mutt-dev
> port (true?). So, does mail/mutt move to 1.4 and
> mail/mutt-dev to 1.5.1?
> 

Yes. I'm waiting for a cvs commit of 1.4 as mail/mutt-devel. Then this can be
cvs tagged and 1.4 will later become mail/mutt, and I can update mail/mutt-devel
to 1.5.1 (which is waiting here for submission)

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Re: FreeBSD compile errors

2002-06-02 Thread Will Yardley

Rocco Rutte wrote:
 
> > The iconv port is now at 2.0_3 and no longer installs a libiconv.so,
> > instead it is called libbiconv.so. This library is a way not
> > standard and did not work for mutt-1.3.x.
 
> I know that this has recently changed.
 
> > Please update both ports and try again.
 
> No, I won't unless those 'old' ports completely break things
> up.

i just installed GNU libiconv from source and then built mutt from
source as well.

thanks for everyone who wrote about this.

i still had to set cc to "cc -I/usr/local/include" (i also set LDFLAGS
to /usr/local/lib).

so i guess the questions are:

1) why does configure no longer complain if libiconv isn't present?  the
noiconv patch never made it into 1.4, right?? so if mutt won't build
without it, it seems like configure should fail as it used to.

2) do systems vary too much for configure to set compiler flags /
environment variables correctly if "libiconv-prefix" is specified in the
configure args?  i'm certainly no expert on this stuff (and i do realize
that if a system is properly configured, it's usually not necessary),
but it is something i've seen a lot of people have problems with.

i don't know if this is worth moving over to the dev list, but i will
bring it up there if people don't think these questions are totally
dumb.

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Re: FreeBSD compile errors

2002-06-02 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Will Yardley [2002-06-02 10:45:01 CEST] wrote:
> i don't know if this is worth moving over to the dev list, but i will
> bring it up there if people don't think these questions are totally
> dumb.

You should have a look over there, just a few hours ago I
saw a mail from somebody complaining the same as we did and
who also sent a patch along the mail.

If I recall it correctly, the problem resides in some m4
file which doesn't set 'use_iconv=yes' although it was
found.

I'll check that too, if I have some time left...

Cheers, Rocco



mutt / resending ?

2002-06-02 Thread Nico Schottelius

How can I resend messages from outgoing (Maildir) ?
I had a big problem with the mailserver, it deleted all outgoing mails.,
Now I need to resend about 40 mails, howto do that mostly easy ?

Please CC me.

Thanks in advance.

Nico

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Re: mutt / resending ?

2002-06-02 Thread Dave Price

On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:20:06PM +0200, Nico Schottelius wrote:
> How can I resend messages from outgoing (Maildir) ?
> I had a big problem with the mailserver, it deleted all outgoing mails.,
> Now I need to resend about 40 mails, howto do that mostly easy ?

Nico,

:resend (i think) is by default bound to  e 

just hit esc and then e ... this works in the index or the viewer, but i
do not think it works with tagged messages - you have to do 'em one at a
time.

aloha,
dave




Re: mutt / resending ?

2002-06-02 Thread Nico Schottelius

Dave Price [Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 03:39:05AM -0600]:
> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:20:06PM +0200, Nico Schottelius wrote:
> > How can I resend messages from outgoing (Maildir) ?
> > I had a big problem with the mailserver, it deleted all outgoing mails.,
> > Now I need to resend about 40 mails, howto do that mostly easy ?
> 
> Nico,
> 
> :resend (i think) is by default bound to  e 

thanks, this is what I am doing for about 20 minutes now :/
I found this, but it's not very comfortable!

but thank you for your help!

Nico

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Re: mutt / resending ?

2002-06-02 Thread Cedric Duval

Nico Schottelius wrote:
> How can I resend messages from outgoing (Maildir) ?
> I had a big problem with the mailserver, it deleted all outgoing mails.,
> Now I need to resend about 40 mails, howto do that mostly easy ?

Just tag all these mails, hit tag-prefix (';') and use the bounce
function ('b').

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Re: mutt / resending ?

2002-06-02 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* Dave Price [2002-06-02 11:39:05 CEST] wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:20:06PM +0200, Nico Schottelius wrote:

> > How can I resend messages from outgoing (Maildir) ?  I
> > had a big problem with the mailserver, it deleted all
> > outgoing mails., Now I need to resend about 40 mails,
> > howto do that mostly easy ?

> :resend (i think) is by default bound to  e

Yes, but not really resend. The help in my pagers say:

  e  resend-message  use the current message as a
  template for a new one

> just hit esc and then e ...

... and my editor fires up. I think 'bounce' is more likely
what he's looking for. You can tag them, of course, but then
all tagged messages will be send to the same recipient.

> this works in the index or the viewer,

The viewer is better called pager (so that others know what
you're talking about).

> but i do not think it works with tagged messages - you
> have to do 'em one at a time.

If he didn't use Maildir I would have suggested formail to
split the mbox and cat each mail to sendmail. For Maildir,
shouldn't it work to copy all mails to some other location
and just pipe them through $sendmail? I guess so...

Cheers, Rocco



weird color behaviour with aterm & rxvt

2002-06-02 Thread Maximilian Szengel

Hi,

 I've just edited my mutt colors to have a white background. (color
 normal black white etc.) I am using aterm and when I call mutt with the
 white background setting it looks awful, not white. Have a look at the
 screenshot [1]. I tried it with rxvt and it looks the same. Am I doing
 something wrong? Maybe it's not mutt's fault, then just ignore this
 post and I am going to find help somewhere else.

1. http://che23.de/mutt_aterm.jpg

Thanks,

max
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Re: weird color behaviour with aterm & rxvt

2002-06-02 Thread dsr

Maximilian Szengel said:
> Hi,
> 
>  I've just edited my mutt colors to have a white background. (color
>  normal black white etc.) I am using aterm and when I call mutt with the
>  white background setting it looks awful, not white. Have a look at the
>  screenshot [1]. I tried it with rxvt and it looks the same. Am I doing
>  something wrong? Maybe it's not mutt's fault, then just ignore this
>  post and I am going to find help somewhere else.
> 
> 1. http://che23.de/mutt_aterm.jpg

You told Mutt to use a white background, but you didn't tell aterm (or
rxvt). 

Invoke your term with "-bg white" and tell us what happens.

-dsr-



Re: weird color behaviour with aterm & rxvt

2002-06-02 Thread Maximilian Szengel

Hi dsr,

On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 08:05:46AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You told Mutt to use a white background, but you didn't tell aterm (or
> rxvt). 
 
 Actually I did, but I didn't tell, sorry.
 
> Invoke your term with "-bg white" and tell us what happens.

 It is just the same. When I set -bg Black -fg White it is still the
 same, doesn't matter what color is set in aterm/rxvt.

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Re: IMAP/charset problems?

2002-06-02 Thread Alain Bench

Hello Martin,

 On Saturday, June 1, 2002 at 3:48:52 PM +0200, Martin Karlsson wrote:

> * Patrik Kullman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-06-01 12.38 +0200]:
>
>> I still get the swedish characters åäö as ? though. Both in subject
>> line and in the actual mail.
>
> try setting 'send_charset' (in muttrc) to iso-8859-1

This should not impact what Patrik gets. BTW the $send_charset
default value is better.


> perhaps setting 'locale' (in muttrc) to iso-8859-1 will help.

AFAIK Mutt's manual states $locale is used only for date and time,
and so should be set as default or to same value as $LC_TIME, as you
prefer.


Bye!Alain.



Re: weird color behaviour with aterm & rxvt

2002-06-02 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 01:41:55PM +0200, Maximilian Szengel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  I've just edited my mutt colors to have a white background. (color
>  normal black white etc.) I am using aterm and when I call mutt with the
>  white background setting it looks awful, not white. Have a look at the
>  screenshot [1]. I tried it with rxvt and it looks the same. Am I doing
>  something wrong? Maybe it's not mutt's fault, then just ignore this
>  post and I am going to find help somewhere else.
> 
> 1. http://che23.de/mutt_aterm.jpg

That looks like you're using ncurses 5.2 with the experimental $COLORTERM
support (it doesn't work for bright backgrounds).

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Re: weird color behaviour with aterm & rxvt

2002-06-02 Thread Maximilian Szengel

On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 09:46:30AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 01:41:55PM +0200, Maximilian Szengel wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> >  I've just edited my mutt colors to have a white background. (color
> >  normal black white etc.) I am using aterm and when I call mutt with the
> >  white background setting it looks awful, not white. Have a look at the
> >  screenshot [1]. I tried it with rxvt and it looks the same. Am I doing
> >  something wrong? Maybe it's not mutt's fault, then just ignore this
> >  post and I am going to find help somewhere else.
> > 
> > 1. http://che23.de/mutt_aterm.jpg
> 
> That looks like you're using ncurses 5.2 with the experimental $COLORTERM
> support (it doesn't work for bright backgrounds).

 Well, I had libncursesw5[-dev] installed (debian-woody). But when I
 remove it mutt's color behavior does not change. Do you have any tip,
 how I can correct this?
 
max
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Re: weird color behaviour with aterm & rxvt

2002-06-02 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Maximilian Szengel wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 09:46:30AM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 01:41:55PM +0200, Maximilian Szengel wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >  I've just edited my mutt colors to have a white background. (color
> > >  normal black white etc.) I am using aterm and when I call mutt with the
> > >  white background setting it looks awful, not white. Have a look at the
> > >  screenshot [1]. I tried it with rxvt and it looks the same. Am I doing
> > >  something wrong? Maybe it's not mutt's fault, then just ignore this
> > >  post and I am going to find help somewhere else.
> > >
> > > 1. http://che23.de/mutt_aterm.jpg
> >
> > That looks like you're using ncurses 5.2 with the experimental $COLORTERM
> > support (it doesn't work for bright backgrounds).
>
>  Well, I had libncursesw5[-dev] installed (debian-woody). But when I
>  remove it mutt's color behavior does not change. Do you have any tip,
>  how I can correct this?

A quick way to verify if my guess is correct (and work around) is to unset
the COLORFGBG environment variable.  ($COLORFGBG is sort of
$COLORTERM/version-2 ;-)

Basically what happens is that it's specifying a background color 15,
while the terminfo says there's only 8 colors.  (I considered adding
a special case for this, but decided that the proper solution would be
to use an appropriate terminfo).

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Re: weird color behaviour with aterm & rxvt

2002-06-02 Thread Maximilian Szengel

Hi Thomas,

On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:23:55PM -0400, Thomas E. Dickey wrote:

> A quick way to verify if my guess is correct (and work around) is to unset
> the COLORFGBG environment variable.  ($COLORFGBG is sort of
> $COLORTERM/version-2 ;-)

 I unset(ed) COLORFGBG ($ unset COLORFGBG). But still I still get the ugly
 coloring... I also tried to set it to 0;8 ($ export COLORFGBG="0;8")
 and still nothing!
 
> Basically what happens is that it's specifying a background color 15,
> while the terminfo says there's only 8 colors.  (I considered adding
> a special case for this, but decided that the proper solution would be
> to use an appropriate terminfo).

 How can I edit the terminfo to a proper one?

Thanks,
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Re: weird color behaviour with aterm & rxvt

2002-06-02 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 07:11:15PM +0200, Maximilian Szengel wrote:
> > Basically what happens is that it's specifying a background color 15,
> > while the terminfo says there's only 8 colors.  (I considered adding
> > a special case for this, but decided that the proper solution would be
> > to use an appropriate terminfo).
> 
>  How can I edit the terminfo to a proper one?

for example, running tic on this, and setting $TERM to rxvt-bright:

rxvt-bright|variant which works with bright backgrounds,
ncv#32,
bold@,
setab=\E[1m\E[4%p1%dm,
use=rxvt,

That's assuming that rxvt was not compiled with bright-color support, and
is just trying to fake a bright background.  Another variant would be
analogous to xterm-16color:

rxvt-16color|using aixterm 16-color sequences,
colors#16,
pairs#256,
setab=\E[%?%p1%{8}%<%t%p1%'('%+%e%p1%{92}%+%;%dm,
setaf=\E[%?%p1%{8}%<%t%p1%{30}%+%e%p1%'R'%+%;%dm,

I tried the first on Debian whose rxvt is 2.6.4 (which doesn't support
bright colors as in the second example).

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indicator color question

2002-06-02 Thread Ken Weingold

I am playing with more colors for the index.  Way too cool.  I can't
believe I didn't do this stuff earlier.  Anyway, I wanted to change
the indicator, for example, for messages marked for deletion.  Can the
indicator color not be changed like the index and such?

Thanks.


-Ken



Re: query-feature (was "Re: Problem composing mail since switching to SuSE")

2002-06-02 Thread David T-G

Rocco, et al --

...and then Rocco Rutte said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello!


% 
% * David T-G [2002-06-02 04:40:58 CEST] wrote:
...
% 
% > You mentioned your non-standard config;
% > where did you get your mutt itself?
% 
% I think I mentioned it before, but the query-feature from
% the unstable branch (which didn't seem to make it in 1.4) is
% extremely usefull in such a case (since it dumps the real
% value mutt would use, either from init.h, Muttrc or
% ~/.muttrc).

Ah!  Since it's been around forever, you must mean something other than

  :set ?feature

to show how feature is set...  Does this basically spit out a whole
muttrc of settings or some such?


% 
% Cheers, Rocco


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Re: IMAP/charset problems?

2002-06-02 Thread Martin Karlsson

Alain,

* Alain Bench <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-06-02 13.33 +0200]:
> Hello Martin,
[...snip...]

> This should not impact what Patrik gets. BTW the $send_charset
> default value is better.
> 
[...snip...] 
>
> AFAIK Mutt's manual states $locale is used only for date and time,
> and so should be set as default or to same value as $LC_TIME, as you
> prefer.

I think I'll have to read TFM a little closer. Thanks for correcting
me!

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Re: query-feature

2002-06-02 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* David T-G [2002-06-02 19:59:21 CEST] wrote:
> ...and then Rocco Rutte said...

> % I think I mentioned it before, but the query-feature from
> % the unstable branch (which didn't seem to make it in 1.4) is
> % extremely usefull in such a case (since it dumps the real
> % value mutt would use, either from init.h, Muttrc or
> % ~/.muttrc).

> Ah!  Since it's been around forever, you must mean something other than

>   :set ?feature

> to show how feature is set...  Does this basically spit out a whole
> muttrc of settings or some such?

I originally meant the '-Q' switch which has the advantage
that you don't need to start an interactive session. But I
didn't know ':set ?...' before... With every mail from the
list I love mutt a bit more... ;-)

Cheers, Rocco



Re: indicator color question

2002-06-02 Thread John Iverson

* On Sun, 02 Jun 2002, Ken Weingold wrote:

> I am playing with more colors for the index.  Way too cool.  I
> can't believe I didn't do this stuff earlier.  Anyway, I wanted
> to change the indicator, for example, for messages marked for
> deletion.  Can the indicator color not be changed like the
> index and such?

I don't think you can have the indicator color change based on
the status of a message with a default setup, but there is
apparently a patch (by Mike Schiraldi) to make the indicator bar
display in the inverse colors of the index line.

I believe there was some talk about this being incorporated into
Mutt.  Anyone know the status, or how to turn it on if it's
there?

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duplicate emails

2002-06-02 Thread blitzkrieg

Hi guys,
I've read the changelogs and I've noticed that the 1.4 is able to know 
if there are two (or more) occurences of the same email in a mailbox. 
Is possible to delete duplicate emails? (not one by one, e.g. press X 
and it deletes all dup mails in a certain mbox)
thank you very much

bye bye
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Re: duplicate emails

2002-06-02 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* xxx [2002-06-03 00:58:11 CEST] wrote:

What did you do to your parents that they gave you such a
stupid name?

> I've read the changelogs and I've noticed that the 1.4 is
> able to know if there are two (or more) occurences of the
> same email in a mailbox. Is possible to delete duplicate
> emails?

Yes.

> (not one by one, e.g. press X and it deletes all dup mails
> in a certain mbox) 

Yes. Look for: .



Re: query-feature

2002-06-02 Thread David T-G

Rocco, et al --

...and then Rocco Rutte said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello!


% 
% * David T-G [2002-06-02 19:59:21 CEST] wrote:
% > ...and then Rocco Rutte said...
% 
% > % I think I mentioned it before, but the query-feature from
...
% 
% > Ah!  Since it's been around forever, you must mean something other than
% 
% >   :set ?feature
% 
% > to show how feature is set...  Does this basically spit out a whole
% > muttrc of settings or some such?
% 
% I originally meant the '-Q' switch which has the advantage

Oh, neat!  Now I suppose I have a reason to dig into 1.5.1 already :-)


% that you don't need to start an interactive session. But I
% didn't know ':set ?...' before... With every mail from the
% list I love mutt a bit more... ;-)

Ha!  Well, happy to help :-)


% 
% Cheers, Rocco


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Re: query-feature

2002-06-02 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* David T-G [2002-06-03 04:44:10 CEST] wrote:
> ...and then Rocco Rutte said...

> % I originally meant the '-Q' switch which has the advantage

> Oh, neat!  Now I suppose I have a reason to dig into 1.5.1
> already :-)

Good, so your References: will hopefully re-appear? It seems
that your mails only have In-Reply-To.

If this is indetended, what are the reasons? A tribute to
replying to multiple mails at once?

Cheers, Rocco



Weird bug while compiling 1.4i with iconv 1.8

2002-06-02 Thread Eugene Paskevich

Hi, everybody!

While running configure script it finds iconv.h
Determines that type iconv_t is defined.
But never finds declaration for iconv function...

libiconv from ftp.gnu.org was installed ok.
Gettext from the same place compiled great with libiconv.

BTW There was no internal system support for icnv functions.

If someone has a hint for me, please let me know about it.
Thanks in advance.
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