Re: OT: not able to set textwidth to 65

2001-10-31 Thread Matej Cepl

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Doug Kearns wrote:

> You could replace the awk invocation with +'/^$/+1'

Thanks for the information. May I ask you another question regarding awk,
please? My wife is a linguist and she would for some of her research
retrograde sort (i.e., sorting by words taken from the other end), like
this. Unsorted set of words:

pine
mutt
netscape
kmail

should be sorted in this set:

pine
netscape
kmail
mutt

I can certainly use sort with two columns, like this:

pine enip
mutt ttum
netscape epacsten
kmailliamk

and then sort according to the second column. However, I have not find an
unix tool to create the second column (I could join two columns into one
file with comm, but again, how to ghet the second column). I can write the
script in Python, but I would love to know, whether something like that
would be possible with awk or sed. Could you help me with that, please?


Thanks


Matej




[Q] reply address to mailing lists

2001-10-31 Thread YOON, Joo-Yung

Hi,

Could you tell me how to make the "To: " address set to the mailing
list addres when I try to make a reply to a mailing list?

I always see the writer's address in the "To: " when I make a reply.

Thanks,
-- 
YOON, Joo-Yung / ArBaGo Int'l
KOREA 420-111 BooChun WonMi-1-Dong 1-28 (GunYong Bldg. 302)
Mobile +82.19.350.1369  Fax +82.32.655.855.9 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [Q] reply address to mailing list

2001-10-31 Thread Will Yardley

YOON, Joo-Yung wrote:
> 
> Could you tell me how to make the "To: " address set to the mailing
> list addres when I try to make a reply to a mailing list?
> 
> I always see the writer's address in the "To: " when I make a reply.

subscribe to the list (man muttrc) in your .muttrc and then use 'L' to
list-reply

w

-- 
GPG Public Key:
http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/



Re: [Q] reply address to mailing list

2001-10-31 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 01:07:12PM +0900, YOON, Joo-Yung (dis)graced my inbox with:
> Could you tell me how to make the "To: " address set to the mailing
> list addres when I try to make a reply to a mailing list?

Go into your .muttrc and configure your mailing lists with the subscribe
command. Read the manual for more info.

-- 
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
"Television: A medium. So called because it's neither rare nor well done."
-- Ernie Kovacs



To: some-iso-8859-1-encoded-name fails

2001-10-31 Thread Juan Alonso Hernández

Hello, list. I've a problem sending emails like this one:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Juan Alonso Hernández" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Bcc:
Subject: Test
Reply-To:

Test msg

--
dharana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Black holes
are where
PGP KeyID: 0xC32A724 GOD is
dividing by zero

Mutt tries to send it in some encoded format like this one (qmail as smtp
server located in the same box):

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at dharana.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the
following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't
work out.

<=?iso-8859-1?Q?=3E?[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)


<=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Juan_Alonso_Hern=E1ndez=22_=3Cjalonso=40heyde=2Ees?=@dhar
ana.net>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 8479 invoked by uid 1000); 31 Oct 2001
11:02:49 -
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:02:49 +
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Juan_Alonso_Hern=E1ndez=22_=3Cjalonso=40heyde=2Ees?=@dhara
na.net,
  =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3E?[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Test
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;
boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH"
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i

--ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


--=20
dharana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Black holes
are where=20
PGP KeyID: 0xC32A724 GOD is
dividing by zero

--ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH

Any ideas about what am I missing? I still don't know if the problem is
about qmail or mutt. I think mutt sends the bad shapped address but I'm not
sure.

Thanks for your help,

--
Juan Alonso Hernández <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
PGP KeyID: 0xB58A97D1

Grupo de Seguridad
Heyde España




Re: OT: not able to set textwidth to 65

2001-10-31 Thread Dave Price

hehehe,

thanks

aloha,
dave

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:38:15PM +1100, Doug Kearns wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 07:42:30PM -0500, Matej Cepl wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Doug Kearns wrote:
> > 
> > > You could replace the awk invocation with +'/^$/+1'
> > 
> > Thanks for the information. May I ask you another question regarding awk,
> > please? My wife is a linguist and she would for some of her research
> > retrograde sort (i.e., sorting by words taken from the other end), like
> > this. Unsorted set of words:
> > 
> > pine
> > mutt
> > netscape
> > kmail
> > 
> > should be sorted in this set:
> > 
> > pine
> > netscape
> > kmail
> > mutt
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> rev filename | sort | rev
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
> 



[Q] send-hook

2001-10-31 Thread yjy-list-mutt

Hi,

I would like to apply different "From: " address for every mailing lists.
For example,
Message to A mailing list has "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Message to B mailing list has "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Can I do that by
send-hook A "set [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
send-hook B "set [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
set envelope_from
?

Thanks,
-- 
YOON, Joo-Yung / ArBaGo Int'l
KOREA 420-111 BooChun WonMi-1-Dong 1-28 (GunYong Bldg. 302)
Mobile +82.19.350.1369  Fax +82.32.655.855.9 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]



problem with sending

2001-10-31 Thread krzysiek

Hello.
I have a problem with sending mails through external MTA.
How can i set up mutt to send through another host?

best Regards

--
Kr00lik




Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Jesper Holmberg

Is it the fact that the U.S. government doesn't respect human rights that
makes you so upset? If so, I'm all behind you.

Jesper

* On Tue Oct 30, Dave Price wrote:
> I find your X-echelon header to be in INCREDIBLY poor taste!!! Change
> you settings or post somewhere else.
> 
> aloha,
> dave
> 
> 
> X-Echelon: FBI WTC NSA Handgun Anthrax Afghanistan Bomb Heroin Laden
> 


-- 
  Jesper Holmberg|"But how can |
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   | one be warm |
ENST Br, BP 832, 29285 Brest, FRANCE | alone?" |



Re: problem with sending

2001-10-31 Thread Will Yardley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have a problem with sending mails through external MTA.
> How can i set up mutt to send through another host?

you can't.

w

-- 
GPG Public Key:
http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/



[Q] send-hook

2001-10-31 Thread yjy

Hi,

I would like to apply different "From: " address for every mailing lists.
For example, 
Message to A mailing list has "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Message to B mailing list has "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Can I do that by 
send-hook A "set [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
send-hook B "set [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
set envelope_from
?

Thanks,
-- 
YOON, Joo-Yung / ArBaGo Int'l
KOREA 420-111 BooChun WonMi-1-Dong 1-28 (GunYong Bldg. 302)
Mobile +82.19.350.1369  Fax +82.32.655.855.9 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: problem with sending

2001-10-31 Thread yjy-list-mutt

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:41:29AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello.
> I have a problem with sending mails through external MTA.
> How can i set up mutt to send through another host?
> 
I think you have to ask the manager of the external MTA to 
allow your host to get relayed.

> best Regards
> 
> --
> Kr00lik
> 

-- 
YOON, Joo-Yung / ArBaGo Int'l
KOREA 420-111 BooChun WonMi-1-Dong 1-28 (GunYong Bldg. 302)
Mobile +82.19.350.1369  Fax +82.32.655.855.9 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [Q] send-hook

2001-10-31 Thread Volker Moell

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Can I do that by 
> send-hook A "set [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> send-hook B "set [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Use "myhdr" instead, $from does not work unfortunately.

  send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:'
  send-hook . 'my_hdr From: Doughnut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
  send-hook '~L mutt' 'my_hdr From: Chicken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'

-volker

-- 
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2 is not equal to 3 -- not even for large values of 2.



Re: problem with sending

2001-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Will Yardley  [31/10/01 04:43 -0800]:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I have a problem with sending mails through external MTA.
> > How can i set up mutt to send through another host?
> 
> you can't.

The best way is to either

[1] Set up your local MTA to smarthost through another host (see
http://www.hserus.net/dlhowto.html for sendmail / qmail / postfix / exim)

or

[2] Configure Masqmail / Nullmailer etc to do the same thing

-srs

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Re: [Q] send-hook

2001-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [31/10/01 21:43 +0900]:
> I would like to apply different "From: " address for every mailing lists.
> For example, 
> Message to A mailing list has "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> Message to B mailing list has "From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> Can I do that by 
> send-hook A "set [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> send-hook B "set [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> set envelope_from

Use procmail to sort different lists into their separate folders and use
my_hdr from.  See http://www.hserus.net/muttrc.html for an example.

-srs

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Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Jesper Holmberg  [31/10/01 13:44 +0100]:
> Is it the fact that the U.S. government doesn't respect human rights that
> makes you so upset? If so, I'm all behind you.

It is the fact that this X-Echelon header game has become rather childish
that makes the guy so upset, I guess.

> * On Tue Oct 30, Dave Price wrote:
> > I find your X-echelon header to be in INCREDIBLY poor taste!!! Change
> > you settings or post somewhere else.
 
-srs

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Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Cliff Sarginson

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 08:31:02PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Jesper Holmberg  [31/10/01 13:44 +0100]:
> > Is it the fact that the U.S. government doesn't respect human rights that
> > makes you so upset? If so, I'm all behind you.
> 
> It is the fact that this X-Echelon header game has become rather childish
> that makes the guy so upset, I guess.
> 
> > * On Tue Oct 30, Dave Price wrote:
> > > I find your X-echelon header to be in INCREDIBLY poor taste!!! Change
> > > you settings or post somewhere else.
>  
>   -srs
Am I missing out on something here ?
What is the X-Echelon header when it is at home ?
Will my teenage son think his dad is a cool dude 
if I have one ?

-- 
Regards
Cliff





Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Cliff Sarginson  [31/10/01 16:41 +0100]:
> Am I missing out on something here ?
> What is the X-Echelon header when it is at home ?

Echelon is supposedly the CIA's s00p3r s3kr17 new gadget to snoop on people's
email.  So, lots of 31337 d00dz here like to put in X-Echelon headers with
echelon bait such as "AK 47, Osama Bin Laden, WTC, Airplane, Israel, Semtex"
so that the Men In Black (tm) will waste their time trying to figure out
if a secret message is hidden in all the geek-speak and C code they post.

> Will my teenage son think his dad is a cool dude 
> if I have one ?

A tinfoil hat and lots of duct tape would be just as cool, I expect.

-srs (besides, they keep those darned mind rays out ...)

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Re: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread darren chamberlain

Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 10/30/2001:
> Now, what I'm trying to do is:
> 
> I have a IN.perso folder where all my private e-mails arrive
> (thru procmail). This folder has a mbox defined in muttrc:
> 
> mbox-hook   IN.perso ~/Mail/perso
> 
> I can easily get my read mail to be archived into the mbox
> using something like:
> 
> folder-hook IN.perso 'set move=yes'
> 
> but this isn't quite what I want. I'd like my 'replied' emails
> (those matching '~Q') to be automatically moved to mbox, but
> not the read ones.

So, each time you reply to a message, it should be moved to
another mailbox?

How about:

macro index r ""

And then some save-hooks for the appropriate addresses so they go
into the right places?

Possibly add  to the end of the macro so they don't show up
as deleted in the current folder.

(Duplicate the macro for the pager as well to maintain
consistency.)

(darren)

-- 
We are not who we think we are. We are not who others think we
are.  We are who we think others think we are.
-- Anonymous



Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Peter L. Berghold

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 04:41:50PM +0100, 
Cliff Sarginson formed electrons and emmitted this: 
[*]Am I missing out on something here ?
[*]What is the X-Echelon header when it is at home ?
[*]Will my teenage son think his dad is a cool dude 
[*]if I have one ?
[*]

Cliff,

Echelon is a program run by the NSA to monitor electronic communication
and seek out certain keywords within those communications to attempt to
detect terrorist and other undesireable activity. In light of the events
of 9/11/01 I would imagine that this effort has been stepped up quite
a bit.

IMHO, however, if we have heard about Echelon I would imagine that 
Echelon is old hat at the NSA and they probably have something much more 
sophisticated in its place.

Putting an X-Echelon header in your email with provocative words in it 
supposedly causes the NSA computers to waste cycles processing them.

IMHO, again, I give that analysts at the NSA are probably smarter than
that as some of them are hackers at heart anyway and have figured out 
the X-Echelon header game. 

So, what I am saying is the whole idea of an X-Echelon header is a game
that was funny the first 99 times it was done and like many over told
jokes has gotten pretty lame. Don't waste time on it.

HTH


- -- 
- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Peter L. Berghold[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager Unix Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NYU Mt Sinai (212) 263-6932
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Read-only

2001-10-31 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

I want to run two Mutts in parallel.
1. Is there any problem except writing mailboxes?
2. Does '-R' read-only all mailboxes or just the one I name in the
command line? Is there another way to do it?

tia,
Thorsten
-- 
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin



Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Justin R. Miller

Thus spake Peter L. Berghold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> So, what I am saying is the whole idea of an X-Echelon header is a
> game that was funny the first 99 times it was done and like many over
> told jokes has gotten pretty lame. Don't waste time on it.

For that matter, don't waste time on _anyone's_ X-headers;  I've seen
some clever ones and some silly ones all over the place, but really --
weed them out if you are easily bothered.  

-- 
Justin R. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
PGP/GnuPG Key ID 0xC9C40C31 (preferred)

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Re: Read-only

2001-10-31 Thread Christoph Maurer

On 2001-10-31 Thorsten Haude wrote:

> I want to run two Mutts in parallel.
> 1. Is there any problem except writing mailboxes?

No, I often do that.


> 2. Does '-R' read-only all mailboxes or just the one I name in the
> command line? Is there another way to do it?
> 

Only the named ones. 

But you can change to a folder in read-only mode with  c.

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Maurer - Paul-Röntgen-Straße 7 - D - 52072 Aachen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.christophmaurer.de
On my Homepage: SuSE 7.0 on an Acer Travelmate 508 T Notebook



Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Bruno Postle

On Wed 31-Oct-2001 at 11:01:00AM -0500, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
> 
> Putting an X-Echelon header in your email with provocative words in it
> supposedly causes the NSA computers to waste cycles processing them.

If you just want to waste cycles on other peoples computers, try this:

:macro compose y base64

-- 
Bruno



Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread René Clerc

* Bruno Postle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [31-10-2001 17:50]:

| On Wed 31-Oct-2001 at 11:01:00AM -0500, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
| > 
| > Putting an X-Echelon header in your email with provocative words in it
| > supposedly causes the NSA computers to waste cycles processing them.
| 
| If you just want to waste cycles on other peoples computers, try this:
| 
| :macro compose y base64

Or provoke discussions like these ;)

-- 
René Clerc  - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: OT: not able to set textwidth ...

2001-10-31 Thread Matej Cepl

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 09:18:41AM -, Matej Cepl wrote:
> > You could replace the awk invocation with +'/^$/+1'
> Thanks for the information. May I ask you another question regarding awk,
> please?

And so I did -- but unfortunately to the list. Sorry for that.

Matej

-- 
Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488



Re: Read-only

2001-10-31 Thread Thorsten Haude

Moin,

so trifft man sich wieder.

* Christoph Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-10-31 17:43]:
>On 2001-10-31 Thorsten Haude wrote:
>> 1. Is there any problem except writing mailboxes?
>No, I often do that.
Do you have any special provisions in this respect?

>> 2. Does '-R' read-only all mailboxes or just the one I name in the
>> command line? Is there another way to do it?
>But you can change to a folder in read-only mode with  c.
Hm. I can start the second Mutt with an alternate mutt.rc I guess.

Thanks!
Thorsten
-- 
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin



another PGP error

2001-10-31 Thread Ken Weingold

Here's another.  All the other PGP-signed emails in the thead parsed
fine.  Just this one was like this, every time.


--



>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Oct 31 11:18:42 2001
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/
X-Rcpt-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:01:00 -0500
From: "Peter L. Berghold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

[-- Error: unable to create PGP subprocess! --]
-END PGP SIGNATURE-



Re: another PGP error

2001-10-31 Thread René Clerc

* Ken Weingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [31-10-2001 18:13]:

| Here's another.  All the other PGP-signed emails in the thead parsed
| fine.  Just this one was like this, every time.

This one was not pgp/mime signed, but traditional. Did you press
P when this happened?

| >From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Oct 31 11:18:42 2001
| Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
| X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/
| X-Rcpt-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:01:00 -0500
| From: "Peter L. Berghold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox 
|?
| 
| [-- Error: unable to create PGP subprocess! --]
| -END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
René Clerc  - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Marriage is like a cage; one sees the birds outside desperate to get in,
and those inside equally desperate to get out.
-Michel de Montaigne

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Re: Read-only

2001-10-31 Thread Volker Moell

Thorsten Haude wrote:
>
> >> 1. Is there any problem except writing mailboxes?
> >No, I often do that.
> Do you have any special provisions in this respect?

I'm not Christoph, but I often use several mutt's at the same time, too.
I even modify mails in both of the mut's, and I never got problems.  I
think the only trouble you can get is when you append to a mailbox.

-volker

-- 
  http://die-Moells.de/  *  http://Stama90.de/  *  http://ScriptDale.de/

"Perl ist der geglückte Versuch, einen braindump direkt ausführbar
 zu machen."
-- Lutz Donnerhacke



Stop it. Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Thomas Roessler

Folks,

could you please stop this entirely off-topic, silly, and 
unnecessary discussion?

If someone finds an X-Echelon header cool, that's his business.

If someone else finds that particular one tasteless, he's of course 
free to complain about it IN PRIVATE MAIL, or in alt.flame.

But, please, keep this kind of nonsense off this list.

-- 
Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/




On 2001-10-31 16:41:50 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:41:50 +0100
>From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?
>User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i
>
>On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 08:31:02PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> Jesper Holmberg  [31/10/01 13:44 +0100]:
>> > Is it the fact that the U.S. government doesn't respect human rights that
>> > makes you so upset? If so, I'm all behind you.
>> 
>> It is the fact that this X-Echelon header game has become rather childish
>> that makes the guy so upset, I guess.
>> 
>> > * On Tue Oct 30, Dave Price wrote:
>> > > I find your X-echelon header to be in INCREDIBLY poor taste!!! Change
>> > > you settings or post somewhere else.
>>  
>>  -srs
>Am I missing out on something here ?
>What is the X-Echelon header when it is at home ?
>Will my teenage son think his dad is a cool dude 
>if I have one ?
>
>-- 
>Regards
>Cliff
>
>
>



Re: Spam problem

2001-10-31 Thread Carl B . Constantine

* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hey guys, I've been having this terrible problem with email spam and I
> was wondering if you guys have similar problems, and if so, what you do
> about them.

I vote for taking the spammer out and having him/her/them drawn and
quartered.

> Anyway, I keep getting advertisements for really disgusting porn. They
> all seem to come from different addresses (although they're all from
> hotmail, and they're all obviously spoofed - replies bounce).

yep, typical.

> However, I am quite lucky, because they all have one thing in common
> that lets me filter them fairly easily:
> 
> :0
> * ^Message-.*mx.+mail.home.com
> $MAILDIR/spam
> 
> :D
> 
> So far, that procmail filter has filtered every single one, and hasn't
> caught anything not-spam (as for the mx.+mail part, the message id
> always ends with @mx, then a number or two, a hyphen, then two or three
> seemingly random letters, then mail.home.com.

If it's @home's mail server, it's probably an open relay somewhere,
either from @home itself or some idiot set up his mail server wrong on
his home machine and now it's being used for spam.

Report though spamcop (www.spamcop.net) and/or to @home
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

> 
> I've spoken with my ISP about this, and they basically said "Hey, not
> our fault, go away."

also typical. True, but typical.

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Re: Read-only

2001-10-31 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* Volker Moell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-10-31 18:18]:
>Thorsten Haude wrote:
>> >> 1. Is there any problem except writing mailboxes?
>> Do you have any special provisions in this respect?
>I'm not Christoph, but I often use several mutt's at the same time, too.
>I even modify mails in both of the mut's, and I never got problems.  I
>think the only trouble you can get is when you append to a mailbox.
I can see me appending mail, eg. when I send one; but I usually don't
modify the mails in my mboxes. What do I miss here?

Thorsten
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temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin



Re: Read-only

2001-10-31 Thread Volker Moell

Thorsten Haude wrote:
> I can see me appending mail, eg. when I send one; but I usually don't
> modify the mails in my mboxes. What do I miss here?

Argh... ok, this was confusing.  What I really meant was, you can get
into trouble, when you append two mails to one mailbox *at the same
time*.  But this is very implausible.  Normal operations like delete
and add mails are harmless (in my experience), even when doing this from
more mutt's than one.

-volker

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color

2001-10-31 Thread John J Kearney

please can sombody tell me how to enable colors in mutt

i have a color xterm and vim has colors in it

what must i do for mutt ot work here also

TIA JJK

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Re: color

2001-10-31 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove

* John J Kearney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) babbled:
> please can sombody tell me how to enable colors in mutt

here's what i use.

## =
## Color definitions
## =
color attachment white magenta
color body  cyan   default  "ftp://[^ ]*"
color body brightgreen default
"[[:alnum:]][-+.#_[:alnum:]]*@[-+.[:alnum:]]*[[:alnum:]]"
color body  cyan   default  ""
color bold  green  default
color error reddefault
color headeryellow default  "^cc:"
color headergreen  default  "^date:"
color headeryellow default  "^from"
color headerbrightcyan default  "^from:"
color headeryellow default  "^newsgroups:"
color headeryellow default  "^reply-to:"
color headerbrightcyan default  "^subject:"
color headergreen  default  "^to:"
color headeryellow default  "^x-mailer:"
color headeryellow default  "^message-id:"
color headeryellow default  "^Organization:"
color headeryellow default  "^Organisation:"
color headeryellow default  "^User-Agent:"
color headeryellow default  "^message-id: .*pine"
color indicator white  blue
color markers   reddefault
color message   white  blue

## ==
## Colorizing the body of messages (ie in the pager)
## ==
 
color normalwhite default  # pager body
#  Coloring quoted text - coloring the first 6 levels:
color quotedcyan  default
color quoted1   yellowdefault
color quoted2   red   default
color quoted3   green default
color quoted4   cyan  default
color quoted5   yellowdefault
color quoted6   red   default
color quoted7   green default
   
color signature brightred  default
color statuswhite  blue
color tilde blue   default
color tree  brightmagenta  default
color underline yellow default
color body  yellow default  "[;:]-[)/(|]"  # colorise
smileys
color body  yellow default  "[;:][)/(|]"
color body  brightblue default
"(http|ftp|news|telnet|finger)://[^ ]*"

color index yellow default  ~N  # New
color index yellow default  ~O  # Old
color index brightgreendefault  '~s tgil'
color index brightgreendefault  '~p'# mail to myself
color index brightcyandefault  '~P'# mail from myself
color index magentadefault  ~F  # Flagged
color index blue   default  ~T  # Tagged
color index reddefault  ~D  # Deleted

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Re: Read-only

2001-10-31 Thread Thorsten Haude

Hi,

* Volker Moell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-10-31 18:50]:
>Argh... ok, this was confusing.  What I really meant was, you can get
>into trouble, when you append two mails to one mailbox *at the same
>time*.  But this is very implausible.  Normal operations like delete
>and add mails are harmless (in my experience), even when doing this from
>more mutt's than one.
You do that without excessive 's?
OK then, I'm game.

Thanks again!
Thorsten
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temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- Benjamin Franklin



Re: color

2001-10-31 Thread Daniel Farnsworth Teichert

When I was first messing around with Mutt I had similar
troubles when trying to use a regular old xterm. It
seems like I found that setting the environment variable
TERM to color_xterm instead of just xterm made it work.
Calling xterm with the -tn color_xterm flag has a similar
effect, I think.

HTH

  --Daniel

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 06:02:17PM +, John J Kearney wrote:
> please can sombody tell me how to enable colors in mutt
> 
> i have a color xterm and vim has colors in it
> 
> what must i do for mutt ot work here also
> 
> TIA JJK



Re: color

2001-10-31 Thread René Clerc

* John J Kearney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [31-10-2001 19:01]:

| please can sombody tell me how to enable colors in mutt
| 
| i have a color xterm and vim has colors in it
| 
| what must i do for mutt ot work here also

Configure them in your .muttrc ;)

See the 'color' section in `man muttrc`.

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Re: color

2001-10-31 Thread Thorsten Haude

Moin,

* John J Kearney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-10-31 19:02]:
>please can sombody tell me how to enable colors in mutt
>
>i have a color xterm and vim has colors in it
>
>what must i do for mutt ot work here also
Do you have color statements in your ~/.muttrc?

Go to www.mutt.org and look for examples of ~/.muttrc, many of them have
colors.

Thorsten
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- Benjamin Franklin



Re: Read-only

2001-10-31 Thread Volker Moell

Thorsten Haude wrote:
>
> You do that without excessive 's?

Of course *with*.  I often forget that somewhere else on another screen
another mutt is open... ;-)

> OK then, I'm game.

Good luck! :-)

-volker

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Re: another PGP error

2001-10-31 Thread Thomas Roessler

The problem is fixed in the CVS, and in 1.3.23.1.

(The latter one is an intermediate development version with new 
threading code.  Use with care.)

On 2001-10-31 12:11:15 -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:11:15 -0500
>From: Ken Weingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: mutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: another PGP error
>Mail-Followup-To: mutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i
>
>Here's another.  All the other PGP-signed emails in the thead parsed
>fine.  Just this one was like this, every time.
>
>
>--
>
>
>
>>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Oct 31 11:18:42 2001
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
>X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/
>X-Rcpt-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:01:00 -0500
>From: "Peter L. Berghold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?
>
>[-- Error: unable to create PGP subprocess! --]
>-END PGP SIGNATURE-
>

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Re: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:43:33AM -0500, darren chamberlain wrote:
> Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 10/31/2001:
> > Thanks for answering me !
> 
> Oh, sure.  I've got nothing better to do (but don't tell my
> boss I said that.) ;)
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:57:43AM -0500, darren chamberlain wrote:
> > > Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 
>10/30/2001:
> > > How about:
> > > 
> > > macro index r ""
> > 
> > I didn't thought  about the macro stuff ;)
> 
> The best solutions always end up being macros, I've found.
> 

I ended up with this:

folder-hook IN.personal 'macro index r ""'
save-hook '~p' $HOME/Mail/personal
mbox-hook IN.personal $HOME/Mail/personal


but it doesn't work. When I press 'r', I reply to the message but it's not saved in 
the mbox.


> > Also that'd be valid in all my mailboxes, wouldn't it ? What if
> > I wanted this to happen just in one specific mailbox ?
> 
> Hm... write a mbox-hook that creates the macro for only the
> mailbox(es) you want it to work for.  Be sure to write another
> (earlier in the config) mbox-hook to clear the macro, though, so
> it doesn't carry over to the other mailboxes.

The fact that you can have a mbox-hook linked to a macro isn't documented here. I only 
have:

   mbox-hook [!]pattern mailbox
  When mutt changes to a mail folder which matches pattern, mailbox will 
be used as the "mbox"  folder,
  i.e., read messages will be moved to that folder when the mail folder is 
left.

Can you confirm the use of macros in there ?

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UTF-8 behaves strange

2001-10-31 Thread Matej Cepl

Hi,

I have set up Unicode support on my console (RedHat 7.0) with the
following in /etc/sysconfig/i18n:

LANG="cs_CZ"
SYSFONT="lat2-16"
SYSFONTACM="iso02+euro"
UNIMAP="iso02"

Everything seems to work well, except for mutt (and mc, but
that's another question). When I set charset to utf-8, it doesn't
work on accented characters (obviously, it doesn't make utf-8
decoding so an accented character is displayed as two or more
characters).

Does anybody have an idea, what should I do?

Thanks in advance

Matej

P.S.: This is the result of mutt -v:


Mutt 1.3.23i (2001-10-09)
Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins a další.
Mutt je rozšiřován BEZ JAKÉKOLI ZÁRUKY; další informace získáte příkazem
`mutt -vv'.
Mutt je volné programové vybavení. Rozšiřování tohoto programu je vítáno,
musíte ovšem dodržet určitá pravidla; další informace získáte příkazem
`mutt -vv'.

System: Linux 2.2.16-22 [using slang 10401]
Přeloženo s volbami:
-DOMAIN
+DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  
+USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_POP  +USE_NNTP  +USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  +USE_SSL  -USE_SASL  
+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  +COMPRESSED  
+HAVE_COLOR  -HAVE_START_COLOR  -HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  -HAVE_BKGDSET  
-HAVE_CURS_SET  -HAVE_META  -HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+HAVE_PGP  +HAVE_SMIME  +HAVE_SMIME  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  -HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET  
++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_GETSID  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
INEWS="/usr/bin/inews -hS"
MAILPATH="/var/mail"
PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/etc"
EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
-MIXMASTER
Vývojáře programu můžete kontaktovat na adrese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (anglicky).
Chyby v programu oznamujte pomocí utility flea(1).
Připomínky k překladu zasílejte na adresu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (česky).


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Re: color

2001-10-31 Thread Thomas E. Dickey

On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Daniel Farnsworth Teichert wrote:

> When I was first messing around with Mutt I had similar
> troubles when trying to use a regular old xterm. It
> seems like I found that setting the environment variable
> TERM to color_xterm instead of just xterm made it work.
> Calling xterm with the -tn color_xterm flag has a similar
> effect, I think.

color_xterm is similar to xterm-color, and both are incorrect for XFree86
xterm and rxvt (ditto Eterm and aterm, konsole and gnome-terminal).

to see this, use infocmp to compare their terminfo entries.

>
> HTH
>
>   --Daniel
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 06:02:17PM +, John J Kearney wrote:
> > please can sombody tell me how to enable colors in mutt
> >
> > i have a color xterm and vim has colors in it
> >
> > what must i do for mutt ot work here also
> >
> > TIA JJK
>

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Re: BlackBox documentation?

2001-10-31 Thread Dave Price

Ben,

I had the same problem ... prepending classic  to the links seems to get
you what you want (somewhere in the archives, since that's where i
learned about it).  this works for openers:

http://bb.classic.themes.org/php/docs.phtml?docid=25&secid=6.2&do=Up

hth (and aloha),
dave

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 01:20:05PM -0800, Ben Harrison wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> 
> It appears that with the reorg on themes.org, the documentation links on 
>blackbox.alug.org have all been broken. Is there a copy of this anywhere else? I'm 
>relatively new to bb and while i've been able to set it up, i'd like to refer some 
>less technical friends.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ben



Re: Read-only

2001-10-31 Thread David T-G

Thorsten --

...and then Thorsten Haude said...
% Hi,

Hello!  I know that this has been answered back and forth a bit, but it
looks to me like things might still be a bit unclear...


% 
% I want to run two Mutts in parallel.

Not a problem.  I, too, do it frequently; one common reason I do is
to separately tag and handle some messages when I already have a bunch
tagged for some other purpose.


% 1. Is there any problem except writing mailboxes?

mutt handles recognizing a changed mailbox very well; there shouldn't be
any problems.

If you have the proper locking code on your system (dotlock, fnctl,
whatever) then even if you try to sync the mailbox with two or more mutts
at the same time you'll be fine; one of them will get the lock, and the
other will wait.

Note that something as simple as "cat msg >> mailbox" does *not* know
about locking, so it might muck up a mailbox as its being written by
mutt, but you only asked about parallel mutts so that shouldn't affect
you.


% 2. Does '-R' read-only all mailboxes or just the one I name in the
% command line? Is there another way to do it?

You could use the alternative read-only muttrc that you mentioned or just
use the -R flag; you could also hit % when you get into the box to make
it read-only.


% 
% tia,
% Thorsten
% -- 
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% temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
%   - Benjamin Franklin


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Re: BlackBox documentation?

2001-10-31 Thread David T-G

Dave --

...and then Dave Price said...
% 
...
% http://bb.classic.themes.org/php/docs.phtml?docid=25&secid=6.2&do=Up

Did you really mean to send this to us? :-)


% 
% hth (and aloha),
% dave


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Re: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Rob 'Feztaa' Park

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 06:36:45PM +0100, Eric Van Buggenhaut (dis)graced my inbox 
with:
> The fact that you can have a mbox-hook linked to a macro isn't documented here. I 
>only have:
> 
>mbox-hook [!]pattern mailbox
>   When mutt changes to a mail folder which matches pattern, mailbox will 
>be used as the "mbox"  folder,
>   i.e., read messages will be moved to that folder when the mail folder 
>is left.
> 
> Can you confirm the use of macros in there ?

mbox hooks are used for saving read mail in one folder into another
folder. No macros can be used here.

What you want to use are folder hooks. They will let you configure
macros based on what folder you are currently viewing.

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Re: OT: not able to set textwidth to 65

2001-10-31 Thread Denis Perelyubskiy

  * Dave Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [31-Oct-01 03:44 -0800]:
  [...]
  >> > pine
  >> > mutt
  >> > netscape
  >> > kmail
  >> > 
  >> > should be sorted in this set:
  >> > 
  >> > pine
  >> > netscape
  >> > kmail
  >> > mutt
  [...]
  >> rev filename | sort | rev
  [...]

am i missing something or you could simply 
   
   sort -r filename
? the -r switch simply inverts the results of comparisons
...

denis

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Re: OT: not able to set textwidth to 65

2001-10-31 Thread David T-G

Denis --

...and then Denis Perelyubskiy said...
%   * Dave Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [31-Oct-01 03:44 -0800]:
%   [...]
%   >> > 
%   >> > should be sorted in this set:
%   >> > 
%   >> > pine
%   >> > netscape
%   >> > kmail
%   >> > mutt
%   [...]
%   >> rev filename | sort | rev
%   [...]
% 
% am i missing something or you could simply 

You are :-)  The words are sorted by character from right to left rather
than left to right.


%
%sort -r filename
% ? the -r switch simply inverts the results of comparisons
% ...

But that would put mutt before kmail, which isn't what he wanted :-)


% 
% denis
% 
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OT: not the same as sort -r at all

2001-10-31 Thread Dave Price

- Forwarded message from davep -

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:17:06 -0700
To: Denis Perelyubskiy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: not able to set textwidth to 65
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 
Oct 31, 2001 at 06:02:23PM -0800

Actually, yes ...

the original question was about _reversing_ the alphanumeric sort of a
text file on a line by line basis ... 

rev ... 'reverses' each line, last char first, etc ... kinda silly, but
it really is part of bedian woody, among other distros. ... so 

cat pine > rev ... becomes enip  yada yada

now, if you sort the reversed file you get silly stuff, BUT if you | rev
it again, magic transpires ... you get the original list ... but sorted
in order from last char to first  look CLOSELY at the example or try
it with your favorite `awked version of a list a see for yourself

aloha, and Hth ..

dave


On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 06:02:23PM -0800, Denis Perelyubskiy wrote:
>   * Dave Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [31-Oct-01 03:44 -0800]:
>   [...]
>   >> > pine
>   >> > mutt
>   >> > netscape
>   >> > kmail
>   >> > 
>   >> > should be sorted in this set:
>   >> > 
>   >> > pine
>   >> > netscape
>   >> > kmail
>   >> > mutt
>   [...]
>   >> rev filename | sort | rev
>   [...]
> 
> am i missing something or you could simply 
>
>sort -r filename
> ? the -r switch simply inverts the results of comparisons
> ...
> 
> denis
> 
> -- 
> // mailto: Denis Perelyubskiy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> // icq   : 12359698
> // PGP   : http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~denisp/files/pgp.asc

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Re: OT: not able to set textwidth to 65

2001-10-31 Thread Daniel Eisenbud

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 09:16:46PM -0500, David T-G 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But that would put mutt before kmail, which isn't what he wanted :-)

And it would also put irrelevant before mutt, which is why maybe it's
time to take this off-list for anyone who still cares.

-Daniel

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Daniel E. Eisenbud
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"We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of
undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed
hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms."
--Henry David Thoreau, "Walking"



Re: Bad Taste, WAS: how do I automatiaclly moved 'Replied' messages to mbox ?

2001-10-31 Thread Cliff Sarginson

On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:01:00AM -0500, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
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> On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 04:41:50PM +0100, 
>   Cliff Sarginson formed electrons and emmitted this: 
> [*]Am I missing out on something here ?
> [*]What is the X-Echelon header when it is at home ?
> [*]Will my teenage son think his dad is a cool dude 
> [*]if I have one ?
> [*]
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> Cliff,
> 
> Echelon is a program run by the NSA to monitor electronic communication
> and seek out certain keywords within those communications to attempt to
> detect terrorist and other undesireable activity. In light of the events
> of 9/11/01 I would imagine that this effort has been stepped up quite
> a bit.
> 
> IMHO, however, if we have heard about Echelon I would imagine that 
> Echelon is old hat at the NSA and they probably have something much more 
> sophisticated in its place.
> 
> Putting an X-Echelon header in your email with provocative words in it 
> supposedly causes the NSA computers to waste cycles processing them.
> 
> IMHO, again, I give that analysts at the NSA are probably smarter than
> that as some of them are hackers at heart anyway and have figured out 
> the X-Echelon header game. 
> 
> So, what I am saying is the whole idea of an X-Echelon header is a game
> that was funny the first 99 times it was done and like many over told
> jokes has gotten pretty lame. Don't waste time on it.
> 
Ok thanks, I wasn't planning to, my message was supposed to be
faintly humourous, but I did not know what it was about. So
now I do ..

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Regards
Cliff