Re: Documentation bug regarding `date_format'?

2000-08-20 Thread Byrial Jensen

On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 09:42:15 +0100, Dave Pearson wrote:
> According to section 6.3.27 of the mutt manual (I'm running 1.2.5i here) the
> variable `date_format' "controls the format of the date printed by the
> ``%d'' sequence in ``index_format''".
> 
> Further, section 6.3.73 says that the %d and %D sequences display the date
> and time of a message "in the format specified by ``date_format''".
> 
> However, it would appear that `date_format' doesn't (quite rightly?) work
> for all uses of the `index_format' sequences.

Would it? Not to me.

> For example, `date_format'
> does affect the output of `attribution' (the documentation of which points
> the reader to the documentation for `index_format').

Yes, "date_format" does affect the output of "attribution" if the
"attribution" string contains %d or %D sequences.

> Is this a documentation bug?

I don't see any bug here.

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erroe when installing mytt 1.3.5

2000-08-20 Thread



With ./configure - all right
make install - Error message :
/bin/sh: .././mkinstalldirs: Permision 
denied
make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 
126
 
What I have to do?
 


Error when installing mutt 1.2.4

2000-08-20 Thread



Make install - receive error :
keymaps_defs.h Permission 
denied.
 
file keymap_defs.h - is not 
exist,
 keymap_alldef.h - is not exist 
too!
 
What I have to 
do?


Re: LANG=da_DK.ISO_8859-1 => danish menus

2000-08-20 Thread Michael Lyngbøl

On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 09:59:35PM +0200, Byrial Jensen wrote:
> > One my FreeBSD box I've set "LANG=da_DK.ISO_8859-1" to make vi (also
> > used as my mutt editor) display danish characters. It works.
> > 
> > But now I've also got the menus in mutt in danish language which I do
> > not want. How do I "reset" this to english?
> 
> Solution 1: Don't set the environment variable LANG, but set LC_CTYPE
> instead.

Yep! 

$ export LC_CTYPE=da_DK.ISO_8859-1

Thanks!

- Michael




Re: erroe when installing mytt 1.3.5

2000-08-20 Thread Nils Vogels

Hi Sergey&Tanya !

On Sun 20 Aug 2000 (05:43), you muttered on the list:

> With ./configure - all right
> make install - Error message :
> /bin/sh: .././mkinstalldirs: Permision denied
> make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 126
> 
> What I have to do?
> 
Be sure you have permission to execute mkinstalldirs, and permission to create
the dirs mkinstalldirs wants to create ;)

Grtz,

Nils.

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Re: erroe when installing mytt 1.3.5

2000-08-20 Thread Wilhelm Wienemann

Hello Tanya,
hello Sergey!

On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Sergey&Tanya wrote:

> With ./configure - all right
> make install - Error message :
> /bin/sh: .././mkinstalldirs: Permision denied
> make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 126
> 
> What I have to do?

Maybe you can post us a part of the 'configure' or 'make' messages
including the error message. You are be able to save it in a file
to expand your command like:

./configure --prefix=/usr && make keymap_defs.h && make 2>&1 | tee make.out

This will save the messages in the file 'make.out'. 
Cut the messages untill the importand messages and send them as
attachement to this list. This will help to solve your problem.

bye - Wilhelm

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Re: Again: gpg and screen refresh

2000-08-20 Thread Christian Molls

* Henrique M. Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000819 18:51]:

> Strange, it works fine in 1.2.x, all the gpg: messages just get tacked in
> the PGP output block (for signed but NOT encripted messages). Is the problem
> you're having only triggered by signed AND encripted messages? (and signed
> AND encripted by mutt or by standalone GPG?)

It happens with both signed and signed+encrypted messages. However, I
think I can live with the "2>/dev/null" solution.

Christian



Strategies for archiving mails

2000-08-20 Thread Kai Weber

Hi,

I am searching for some tips how to archive and collect my mails. I do
not want to delete mails I get. After 3 months using Linux my mailboxes
grow and grow.

How do you sort and archive your mails? I want to collect some possible
solutions for first information and to see what is possible.

If it is a integrated mutt-procmail-solution it would be nice.

Kai.
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Re: Strategies for archiving mails

2000-08-20 Thread Christian Molls

* Kai Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000820 19:13]:

> I am searching for some tips how to archive and collect my mails. I do
> not want to delete mails I get. After 3 months using Linux my mailboxes
> grow and grow.
> 
> How do you sort and archive your mails? I want to collect some possible
> solutions for first information and to see what is possible.
> 
> If it is a integrated mutt-procmail-solution it would be nice.

There has been an interesting thread on this topic starting end of
July. The subject was "automatic mail archiving". David Champion
posted a nice solution to the problem on July 31 (not exactly sure
about that date). It spoils make, procmail, and mutt and a clever use
of symbolic links. I have it running here for about ten mailing lists,
and it works beautifully.

-- 
christian molls
student of laws
univ of cologne



New mutt user

2000-08-20 Thread Dave Kufta

Hello List,
 I am new to mutt and still trying to figure out all the options that
are available and that
I would like to use.I am running a Linux -Mandrake-7.1 system and have
pgp-6.5.1I . I noticed in some screenshots a very nice interface for
mutt in xwindow enviroment which
had very nice color and a menu bar at the top which included a button
for pgp among
others. Could someone on the list possibly suggest where I may find a
muttrc file that would allow these features. I found the screenshot I'm
referring to at the main web site for mutt but don't see in any of the
muttrc files that are there a way to enable the menu bar. I am currently
using mutt-1.2.4i version. Possibly I would need a newer version to
enable the features Iv'e mentioned. 

Thank you for any help,
Dave



Re: multiple mailboxes for mailing lists?

2000-08-20 Thread Alex Farber

Hi,

I would like to thank the people at this mailing list for their help.
However I am switching back to netscape for reading my mails and news.

I didn't like that netscape is so slow, and that I can't use my
favourite
editor (Vim) when composing messages. So I tried switching to slrn and 
mutt, which many people recommend. But now, after 5 days reading the
docs about fetchmail+procmail+mutt, I see that it is easier for me to
enter the POP and NNTP settings into netscape, than setting 4 different
programs to run. I just click on the "Get new messages" and everything
will be downloaded and even separated into different mailboxes for me.

Maybe it says how clueless I am, maybe - that mutt is not complete. It's
not a flame, just wanted to let you know about some different opinion.

Regards
Alex




LBDB

2000-08-20 Thread Jason Helfman

I am building this package, and right now I am getting this, but not
sure if I would be loosing some abilites of the software by not having
these installed...

checking for awk... /bin/awk
checking for mawk... NONE
checking for gawk... /bin/gawk
checking for nawk... NONE
...
checking for ypcat... no

I've added abook..

thanks
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Re: New mutt user

2000-08-20 Thread Christian Molls

* Dave Kufta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000820 19:51]:

> pgp-6.5.1I . I noticed in some screenshots a very nice interface for
> mutt in xwindow enviroment which had very nice color and a menu bar
> at the top which included a button for pgp among others. Could
> someone on the list possibly suggest where I may find a muttrc file
> that would allow these features. I found the screenshot I'm
> referring to at the main web site for mutt but don't see in any of
> the muttrc files that are there a way to enable the menu bar.

If you take another, closer look at the text accompanying the
screenshots, you will read that the menu bar does not belong to mutt,
but is a feature of the terminal application mutt runs in (in this
screenshot it's ETerm, rxvt can do it too, maybe other). 

-- 
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student of laws
univ of cologne



Re: New mutt user

2000-08-20 Thread Dave Kufta

** Reply to message from Christian Molls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Sun, 20
Aug 2000 20:01:39 +0200

Thank's for your response Christian,
 I have run both eterm and rxvt and see nothing in thier menubar that
appears like that. I will take a closer look.

Thank's,
Dave



Re: multiple mailboxes for mailing lists?

2000-08-20 Thread Jesper Holmberg

Hi Alex!

I agree with you that the traditional Unix way of setting up e-mail is
a bit more challenging than the Netscape/OE/Eudora/... way. It sure
required a whole lot of work for me as well when I tried to get
everything up and running 'bout a year ago.

But, as often is the case, the rewards are proportional to the work
you put into this. A well working mutt-fetchmail-procmail-sendmail
system beats everything I've ever tried. It's well worth the work, IMHO.

I think you're wrong in your suggestion that mutt is incomplete; this
is a mail program designed to work within a Unix mail system, and as
such doesn't need/want to be an do-it-all solution. Saying that mutt
is incomplete is like saying Netscape is incomplete since it doesn't
boot your hardware and handles running all other software on your
system (although with Mozilla this seem to be what the developers are
aiming at).

Now, I really don't think the work to set up mutt and all the rest is
totally overwhelming nor impossible. Why not give it one more try?

mutt - works practically out-of-the-box, and this is the friendliest
mailing list in existance.

fetchmail - have you tried fetchmailconf? It allows you to graphically
do all the settings required, not much harder than Netscape.

procmail - not much work is need to set up the things you want to get
done. I could mail you my .procmailrc (very, very simple) if you want
it.

sendmail - have you tried postfix? It also practically works
out-of-the-box.

I don't know on what system you're running, but this link might give
you some overview of all this:

http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/cmail.html

Hope you stay with us!

Jesper

* On Sunday, August 20, Alex Farber wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to thank the people at this mailing list for their help.
> However I am switching back to netscape for reading my mails and news.
> 
> I didn't like that netscape is so slow, and that I can't use my
> favourite
> editor (Vim) when composing messages. So I tried switching to slrn and 
> mutt, which many people recommend. But now, after 5 days reading the
> docs about fetchmail+procmail+mutt, I see that it is easier for me to
> enter the POP and NNTP settings into netscape, than setting 4 different
> programs to run. I just click on the "Get new messages" and everything
> will be downloaded and even separated into different mailboxes for me.
> 
> Maybe it says how clueless I am, maybe - that mutt is not complete. It's
> not a flame, just wanted to let you know about some different opinion.
> 
> Regards
> Alex
> 


-- 
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Re: New mutt user

2000-08-20 Thread Moritz Frommberger

Dave Kufta wrote:
>  I have run both eterm and rxvt and see nothing in thier menubar that
> appears like that. I will take a closer look.

Eterm comes with several themes - just try

$ Eterm -t mutt

and your menu-bar should appear, if you have this theme
installed. 

Regards
MO



Refresh Mailboxes on 'c?'

2000-08-20 Thread Evan Vetere

Okay - 

As it is, I've got a mailboxes like that looks like this: 

mailboxes ! `echo $HOME/mail/*`

This works gorgeously, adding any mailboxes I have in ~/mail to my
viewable list on launch. But if mail arrives and gets routed via
procmail to a -new- mailbox -while I am in mutt-, then I won't see that
mail until I've exited mutt and relaunched it, rebuilding the mailboxes
list. 

I'm really picking nits here in the quest to achieve the Ultimate MUA
Experience. :) Is there a way of binding 'mailboxes ~ `echo...`' to the
'c' key, transparently, without overriding the current functioning of
that key? 

(If there's a different method, that'd be great too.) 

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Re: Delete Messages Matching....

2000-08-20 Thread David Champion

On 2000.08.19, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Jason Helfman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is their a way to make this delete the thread??? If you are using
> collapsed threads on a given folder?

You can use delete-thread in a macro.  For example, to bind it to
control-V in the index:
macro index \Cv ""

Then use tag-pattern ("T") instead of delete-pattern ("D"), and follow
it with ^V.

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Re: New mutt user

2000-08-20 Thread Dave Kufta

** Reply to message from Moritz Frommberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:51:05 +0200

Thank you Moritz 



undeletion of messages

2000-08-20 Thread Ben Roberts

boy do I feel silly.  I just started converted to mutt from pine, when I
accidentally deleted a rather important message.  Mutt won't let me view
messages that have been selected for deletion, so I can't undelete it.  Is this
a configuration option I can change, or is there something else I should do?

-
Ben Roberts, Class of 2001 (1st of millenium), founding member of MBLUG

"If your motherboard smells like carcinogens it's time to get a new
motherboard."
-- Ben Roberts, refering to his SPARC




Re: undeletion of messages

2000-08-20 Thread Jason Helfman

Shift-J or Shift-K then "u"

You can view the message still

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 03:44:56PM -0400, Ben Roberts muttered:
| boy do I feel silly.  I just started converted to mutt from pine, when I
| accidentally deleted a rather important message.  Mutt won't let me view
| messages that have been selected for deletion, so I can't undelete it.  Is this
| a configuration option I can change, or is there something else I should do?
| 
| -
| Ben Roberts, Class of 2001 (1st of millenium), founding member of MBLUG
| 
| "If your motherboard smells like carcinogens it's time to get a new
| motherboard."
| -- Ben Roberts, refering to his SPARC

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Re: LBDB

2000-08-20 Thread Jason Helfman

sorry, this is for Little Big Brother Database..

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 10:39:41AM -0700, Jason Helfman muttered:
| I am building this package, and right now I am getting this, but not
| sure if I would be loosing some abilites of the software by not having
| these installed...
| 
| checking for awk... /bin/awk
| checking for mawk... NONE
| checking for gawk... /bin/gawk
| checking for nawk... NONE
| ...
| checking for ypcat... no
| 
| I've added abook..
| 
| thanks
| -- 
| /Jason G Helfman
| 
| "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always
| been in your possession."
| 
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Re: multiple mailboxes for mailing lists?

2000-08-20 Thread Gary

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 03:14:22PM +0200 or thereabouts, Alex Farber wrote:
 
> Maybe it says how clueless I am, maybe - that mutt is not complete. It's
> not a flame, just wanted to let you know about some different opinion.

Alex, One of the best procmails / muttrc's that I have seen for the
newbieis from Telsa on her webpage. You can find it off of the
Mutt.org site.  She spent a lot of time commenting on every aspect,
and when I first started out using Mutt, I was able to pick up things
very quickly by seeing what she had written -- how it all fit
together.  Actually, you can just copy hers and change the appropriate
mbox names, etc, and you will be up and running in no time. 

 --
 Best regards,
 Gary

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Re: multiple mailboxes for mailing lists?

2000-08-20 Thread Luke Ravitch

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 08:53:02PM +0200, Jesper Holmberg wrote:

> fetchmail - have you tried fetchmailconf? It allows you to graphically
> do all the settings required, not much harder than Netscape.

Easier than Netscape!  You don't need to wade through that horrid
preferences menu.  fetchmailconf is a beautiful example of an
easy-to-use graphical front-end to a very powerful (albeit narrowly
focused--a Good Thing) program.

> procmail - not much work is need to set up the things you want to get
> done. I could mail you my .procmailrc (very, very simple) if you want
> it.

The format is kind of funny looking.  Looks way more complicated than
it is.  Setting up recipes to equal Netscape's functionality is easy
if you have some examples to look at.  And then, if you ever want to
do something more, you already have the basic infrastructure.

> sendmail - have you tried postfix? It also practically works
> out-of-the-box.

Okay, so this area is kind of a pain.  I use Qmail (also easy to
configure) with Serialmail.  Works like a champ.  And nobody regrets
learning crontab (use it so that Serialmail will run at regular
intervals--and it's really pretty simple, just a matter of learning
the syntax).

There's a lot of power in having tools that do just one thing and do
it well.  For example, if something better than, say, procmail comes
out, I just plug it in where procmail was and don't have to change
anything else.  Same goes with any of the other tools in the mail
pipeline.  If I ever get bored of Mutt... (just kidding!)  Seriously,
though.  It takes more initial investment of time and learning, but
this really is a better way.

Hope you stick with it, Alex.  You've come this far.  If you need help
that's off topic for this list, you can email me directly.  I'll _try_
to help.  Happy computing!

-- 
Luke



Re: erroe when installing mytt 1.3.5

2000-08-20 Thread Luke Ravitch

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 05:43:02AM +0300, Sergey&Tanya wrote:
> 
>With ./configure - all right
>
>make install - Error message :
>
>/bin/sh: .././mkinstalldirs: Permision denied
>
>make[1]: *** [install-data-yes] Error 126
>
>
>
>What I have to do?

It looks to me like you don't have permission to execute
mkinstalldirs.  Running:

  chmod +x mkinstalldirs

from the directory where you typed "./configure" should do the trick,
but it seems really odd that it wouldn't untar with the proper
permissions.  Maybe this is symptomatic of another problem.

I could be wrong though.  Maybe mkinstalldirs is running.  Generally,
you have to run "make install" as root, unless you've configured the
program to install in a directory that your regular account has write
permissions for (usually someplace in your home directory).

Try typing:

  ls -l mkinstalldirs

If it looks something like this:

  -rwxr-xr-x   1 luke users 731 Dec 12  1998 mkinstalldirs
 ^  ^  ^
with all those "x"s in the first part, then my first guess was wrong.
In that case, try running "make install" as root.  (Which you'll
probably end up having to do anyway).

Good luck!
-- 
Luke



Re: New mutt user, resend

2000-08-20 Thread Jason Helfman

I think you may be referring to Eterm. Eterm is a modern replacement for
Xterm, as I understand it. On the links page of the mutt home page,
their is a link to get that menu, however I know it only works with the
0.8.10 version of Eterm, and not the most recent of 0.9.x version.

I just did an ls. Here it is.

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 01:38:43PM -0400, Dave Kufta muttered:
| Hello List,
|  I am new to mutt and still trying to figure out all the options that
| are available and that
| I would like to use.I am running a Linux -Mandrake-7.1 system and have
| pgp-6.5.1I . I noticed in some screenshots a very nice interface for
| mutt in xwindow enviroment which
| had very nice color and a menu bar at the top which included a button
| for pgp among
| others. Could someone on the list possibly suggest where I may find a
| muttrc file that would allow these features. I found the screenshot I'm
| referring to at the main web site for mutt but don't see in any of the
| muttrc files that are there a way to enable the menu bar. I am currently
| using mutt-1.2.4i version. Possibly I would need a newer version to
| enable the features Iv'e mentioned. 
| 
|   Thank you for any help,
|   Dave

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[menu:mutt]

# This isn't really done... there aren't quick ways to do some of the things
# listed, so they don't really work.  Also, I used :exec where possible to be
# portable across different keybindings, but it didn't work for all things, and
# you'll need at least Mutt 0.95 for it to work.
# http://jblosser.firinn.org/pub/config/eterm/mutt.menu

# standard settings for an Eterm control menu

/Eterm/*
./Font/*
{Normal}^@\e]50;#
{Larger}^@\e]50;#+
{Smaller}   ^@\e]50;#-
{-}
{Font 1}^@\e]50;#1
{Font 2}^@\e]50;#2
{Font 3}^@\e]50;#3
{Font 4}^@\e]50;#4
../Terminal/*
./Toggles/*
{Cursor Visible}^@\e[?25t
{Home on Echo}  ^@\e[?1010t
{Home on Refresh}   ^@\e[?1011t
{Home on Input} ^@\e[?1012t
{Map Alert} ^@\e]6;21\a
{Primary/Secondary Screen}  ^@\e[?47t
{Reverse Video} ^@\e[?5t
{Select Trailing Spaces}^@\e]6;25\a
{Select Whole Line on Triple-click} ^@\e]6;23\a
{Visual Bell}   ^@\e]6;20\a
{X11 Mouse Reporting}   ^@\e[?1000t
{Xterm Selection Behavior}  ^@\e]6;22\a
../Keys/*
{Application Arrow Keys}^@\e[?1t
{Application Keypad}^@\e[?66t
{Backspace/Delete}  ^@\e[?67t
{Xterm Shift-Keys}  ^@\e[?35t
../Menubar/*
{Toggle Visibility}{Ctrl-Button3}   ^@\e[?10t
{Refresh Menubar}   ^@\e[?10h
{Toggle Window Move by Menubar} ^@\e]6;15\a
../Scrollbar/*
{Toggle Visibility}{Ctrl-Button2}   ^@\e[?30t
{Swap Sides}^@\e]6;11\a
{Toggle Floating}   ^@\e]6;12\a
{Toggle Popup Mode} ^@\e]6;13\a
{-}
{Motif (Traditional) Style} ^@\e]6;10;motif;;\a
{NeXT Style}^@\e]6;10;next;;\a
{Xterm Style}   ^@\e]6;10;xterm;;\a
./Width/*
{5} ^@\e]6;10;;5;\a
{6} ^@\e]6;10;;6;\a
{7} ^@\e]6;10;;7;\a
{8} ^@\e]6;10;;8;\a
{9} ^@\e]6;10;;9;\a
{10}^@\e]6;10;;10;\a
{11}^@\e]6;10;;11;\a
{12}^@\e]6;10;;12;\a
{13}^@\e]6;10;;13;\a
{14}^@\e]6;10;;14;\a
{15}^@\e]6;10;;15;\a
{16}^@\e]6;10;;16;\a
{17}^@\e]6;10;;17;\a
{18}^@\e]6;10;;18;\a
{19}^@\e]6;10;;19;\a
{20}^@\e]6;10;;20;\a
../
../Move to Desktop/*
{0} ^@\e]6;50;0;\a
{1} ^@\e]6;50;1;\a
{2} ^@\e]6;50;2;\a
{3} ^@\e]6;50;3;\a
{4} ^@\e]6;50;4;\a
{5} ^@\e]6;50;5;\a
{6} ^@\e]

Re: Refresh Mailboxes on 'c?'

2000-08-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Evan Vetere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sun, 20 Aug 2000:
> mailboxes ! `echo $HOME/mail/*`

> I'm really picking nits here in the quest to achieve the Ultimate MUA
> Experience. :) Is there a way of binding 'mailboxes ~ `echo...`' to the
> 'c' key, transparently, without overriding the current functioning of
> that key? 

Sure, with macros.

  macro index c "mailboxes ! `echo $HOME/mail/*`"

Something like that, the above is untested...  I don't know how much it
will slow down c(hange-folder), hopefully not much, but it might.  It
really depends on your particular system.


Hope this helps,
Mikko
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Re: New mutt user

2000-08-20 Thread Jason Helfman

I think you may be referring to Eterm. Eterm is a modern replacement for
Xterm, as I understand it. On the links page of the mutt home page,
their is a link to get that menu, however I know it only works with the
0.8.10 version of Eterm, and not the most recent of 0.9.x version.

I just did an ls. Here it is.

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 01:38:43PM -0400, Dave Kufta muttered:
| Hello List,
|  I am new to mutt and still trying to figure out all the options that
| are available and that
| I would like to use.I am running a Linux -Mandrake-7.1 system and have
| pgp-6.5.1I . I noticed in some screenshots a very nice interface for
| mutt in xwindow enviroment which
| had very nice color and a menu bar at the top which included a button
| for pgp among
| others. Could someone on the list possibly suggest where I may find a
| muttrc file that would allow these features. I found the screenshot I'm
| referring to at the main web site for mutt but don't see in any of the
| muttrc files that are there a way to enable the menu bar. I am currently
| using mutt-1.2.4i version. Possibly I would need a newer version to
| enable the features Iv'e mentioned. 
| 
|   Thank you for any help,
|   Dave

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[menu:mutt]

# This isn't really done... there aren't quick ways to do some of the things
# listed, so they don't really work.  Also, I used :exec where possible to be
# portable across different keybindings, but it didn't work for all things, and
# you'll need at least Mutt 0.95 for it to work.
# http://jblosser.firinn.org/pub/config/eterm/mutt.menu

# standard settings for an Eterm control menu

/Eterm/*
./Font/*
{Normal}^@\e]50;#
{Larger}^@\e]50;#+
{Smaller}   ^@\e]50;#-
{-}
{Font 1}^@\e]50;#1
{Font 2}^@\e]50;#2
{Font 3}^@\e]50;#3
{Font 4}^@\e]50;#4
../Terminal/*
./Toggles/*
{Cursor Visible}^@\e[?25t
{Home on Echo}  ^@\e[?1010t
{Home on Refresh}   ^@\e[?1011t
{Home on Input} ^@\e[?1012t
{Map Alert} ^@\e]6;21\a
{Primary/Secondary Screen}  ^@\e[?47t
{Reverse Video} ^@\e[?5t
{Select Trailing Spaces}^@\e]6;25\a
{Select Whole Line on Triple-click} ^@\e]6;23\a
{Visual Bell}   ^@\e]6;20\a
{X11 Mouse Reporting}   ^@\e[?1000t
{Xterm Selection Behavior}  ^@\e]6;22\a
../Keys/*
{Application Arrow Keys}^@\e[?1t
{Application Keypad}^@\e[?66t
{Backspace/Delete}  ^@\e[?67t
{Xterm Shift-Keys}  ^@\e[?35t
../Menubar/*
{Toggle Visibility}{Ctrl-Button3}   ^@\e[?10t
{Refresh Menubar}   ^@\e[?10h
{Toggle Window Move by Menubar} ^@\e]6;15\a
../Scrollbar/*
{Toggle Visibility}{Ctrl-Button2}   ^@\e[?30t
{Swap Sides}^@\e]6;11\a
{Toggle Floating}   ^@\e]6;12\a
{Toggle Popup Mode} ^@\e]6;13\a
{-}
{Motif (Traditional) Style} ^@\e]6;10;motif;;\a
{NeXT Style}^@\e]6;10;next;;\a
{Xterm Style}   ^@\e]6;10;xterm;;\a
./Width/*
{5} ^@\e]6;10;;5;\a
{6} ^@\e]6;10;;6;\a
{7} ^@\e]6;10;;7;\a
{8} ^@\e]6;10;;8;\a
{9} ^@\e]6;10;;9;\a
{10}^@\e]6;10;;10;\a
{11}^@\e]6;10;;11;\a
{12}^@\e]6;10;;12;\a
{13}^@\e]6;10;;13;\a
{14}^@\e]6;10;;14;\a
{15}^@\e]6;10;;15;\a
{16}^@\e]6;10;;16;\a
{17}^@\e]6;10;;17;\a
{18}^@\e]6;10;;18;\a
{19}^@\e]6;10;;19;\a
{20}^@\e]6;10;;20;\a
../
../Move to Desktop/*
{0} ^@\e]6;50;0;\a
{1} ^@\e]6;50;1;\a
{2} ^@\e]6;50;2;\a
{3} ^@\e]6;50;3;\a
{4} ^@\e]6;50;4;\a
{5} ^@\e]6;50;5;\a
{6} ^@\e]

Re: multiple mailboxes for mailing lists?

2000-08-20 Thread Lars Hecking


> such doesn't need/want to be an do-it-all solution. Saying that mutt
> is incomplete is like saying Netscape is incomplete since it doesn't
> boot your hardware and handles running all other software on your
> system (although with Mozilla this seem to be what the developers are
> aiming at).

 Well, netscape *is* incomplete. But thanks to St. IGNUcius,
 we have Emacs ...

 :-P




Re: Strategies for archiving mails

2000-08-20 Thread Chris Gushue

Kai Weber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am searching for some tips how to archive and collect my mails. I do
> not want to delete mails I get. After 3 months using Linux my mailboxes
> grow and grow.
> 
> How do you sort and archive your mails? I want to collect some possible
> solutions for first information and to see what is possible.
> 
> If it is a integrated mutt-procmail-solution it would be nice.

I'm using a combination of procmail and a couple shell scripts for mail
sorting and archiving. Procmail sorts things into monthly directories such
as ~/mail/2000/08 with various mail folders (Maildir-style) in there. One
shell script that gets called by my Mutt config files displays all of the
mail folders in the current month's directory, plus the previous 2 months
for quick access. At the beginning of a new month, I have a cron job running
to convert the previous month's mail back to mbox format (using a program
from qmail - maildir2mbox) and then is gzipped (I patched Mutt with the
compressed folders patch).

Did I miss anything? Maybe... but I have (most of) my Mutt config files and
scripts at http://mutt.lazygenes.net - a lot of which was helped along by
the great help from the users on this mailing list, and a little dedication
to Mutt :)

I've been using procmail to sort into monthly directories for the past year
now, with no problems. I switched to Maildir a few months ago, and the
script I use to automatically convert and compress old mail has been working
fine as well (one or two tiny bugs, which got fixed rather quickly).

Hope this is of some help to you.

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mixmaster support in mutt

2000-08-20 Thread Brian Salter-Duke

I have recently started to play with mixmaster but have had a mixed
experience. I have been overseas and off the mutt lists for a while but
I did look up the discussions on egroups and found that there had been a
discussion about mixmaster support. It seems that mutt calls mixmaster
with the "-T" flag which I think returns the remailers from type2.list
file. Is this correct? 

However I understand that version 2.9beta23 which I tried first does not
support the "-T" flag. I then tried version 2.0 and this also appears to
not support the "-T" flag. So, what versions of mixmaster does mutt
support? 

I also failed to get either version of mixmaster to actually work
outside mutt. This is of course off topic for the mutt list, but I will
outline my problems and ask people to e-mail me rather than continue to
discuss these non-mutt problems on the list. Of course the mutt topics
above can be discussed on the list.

I used a RS6000 with AIX 2.3.5.  On compile it finally got to the link 
stage for mix and said it could not link snprintf and vsnprintf. I took
these from the mutt source as snprintf.c, moved this into the Src
directory, compiled it, altered the makefile to add it to the link step 
and did a Make. This linked mix correctly and nothing else. Does anyone 
see any problem with this?

I then tried using it to send a message. If I used it non-anonymously, 
it worked fine. Anonymously all seemed to go well until I got to "mail 
message". It then responded "Creating message ..." and hung. After 
some time it responds with "Killed" and aborts the process.

Can anyone see where things may be going wrong?

Version 2.0 failed to link on the RS6000 under AIX as it did not find
flock. 

On an old DEC Alpha I failed to compile verison 2.9beta23 but I have not
had time to really check this out. Version 2.0 compiled fine, but again
I had trouble sending. I responded to all the requests including the
remailer chain and then it responded:-

Error: Public Key IDs do not match!
Can't get public key!

What is it trying to match? I'm lost.

I would welcome any help by e-mail to these mixmaster questions and any
discussion on the list about the future of mixmaster support in mutt.
Thomas says he is very busy and no longer uses mixmaster, so I guess it
is up to us if we want to progress it.

Cheers, Brian.

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abook

2000-08-20 Thread Jason Helfman

How would I convert my mutt addressbook to a abook style???
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Re: multiple mailboxes for mailing lists?

2000-08-20 Thread Tomasz Olszewski

Hello Mutt Users!
On nie 20 sie 2000 20:53:02 GMT Jesper Holmberg wrote:

> procmail - not much work is need to set up the things you want to get
> done. I could mail you my .procmailrc (very, very simple) if you want
> it.

I am not sure (because I write my files using only vim :)), but I think
there is a rule file (or whatever it is called) for "dotfile generator"
(okay, I've never seen it, but I've heard of it :)) that should help
you.

> sendmail - have you tried postfix? It also practically works
> out-of-the-box.

And if you don't need so featured mta you can look at Masqmail. It is a
very simple mta designed to work only on host without (parent?) internet
connection.  AFAIK the current version is 0.1.0. Go to
http://www.innominate.org/~oku/ and try it :) Oh, there is (was maybe?)
a bug in 0.1.0 release. If you won't specify the allowed_rcpt_domains
variable, Masqmail won't send any mail outside your computer. The
solution: you can simply specify that variable or make a little change
to the route.c file. You have to comment out the following two lines
(these are lines number: 172, 173):
if(rcpt_list == NULL)
return;

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Re: abook

2000-08-20 Thread Brian Salter-Duke

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 11:01:59PM -0700, Jason Helfman wrote:
> How would I convert my mutt addressbook to a abook style???

I do not think this is currently possible, but the reverse is possible
with the "Little Brother Database" (lbdbq) and its m_abook module that
allows you to search the abook database from in mutt. Why would you want
to convert mutt aliases to abook?

Cheers, Brian.
> -- 
> /Jason G Helfman
> 
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> been in your possession."
> 
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