c - change folder command, some questions/oddities
I'm still finding the way that the change-folder command works a little confusing and not suited to moving back and forth between local and IMAP folders. I have found a number of what seem to me to be oddities (or should they be called features!) :- 1 - If I hit 'c' and then enter '{x-1.net}INBOX.' shouldn't I get the *index* of folders on my IMAP server? What actually happens is that mutt opens the INBOX folder itself, exactly the same as it does when I enter '{x-1.net}INBOX'. Is this a symptom of mutt (or the IMAP support) not being able to handle folders which have both mailboxes and other folders in them? 2 - In general how does one get to browse folders on an IMAP server? I.e. how do I get to browse the sub-folders in {x-1.net}INBOX.buying? When I enter 'c' followed by '{x-1.net}INBOX.buying' I get to see an index of the mail messages in INBOX.buying. When I enter 'c' followed by '{x-1.net}INBOX.buying.' I get an 'Invalid mailbox' error message. 3 - What folder_format field can I use to display the 'IMAP' or 'IMAP+' column that appears if you leave the default? I like the 'clean' IMAP defaults but would like the local index display to be similar. I used 'set folder_format="%N %7s %f"' before but this loses the IMAP/IMAP+. 4 - If I do 'set folder={x-1.net:50143}' then I *can* browse folders on the IMAP server but I don't get to see messages in folders which also have sub-folders. I can only get to see the messages in the folder by hitting ' '. 5 - I can't reproduce this problem now but it definitely happened once. I'll keep trying to find what causes it. After looking at some E-Mail messages on the IMAP server and moving around on the IMAP server a bit I found that 'c!' no longer worked, it claimed my local mailbox was Invalid. I only got back by 'c=..' and navigating from there. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
imap/ssl certificates
Hi, folks thank you for the compiling tips, it worked. I have another question to ask: When I connect to my mailbox with imap/ssl I have the choice: (r)eject, accept (o)nce Is there any way to accept the certificate until it expires? Thanks Kai -- x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x Kai Blin(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Webmaster Inst. of Human Genetics Dept. of Molecular Genetics Wilhelmstr 27 phone (49)7071-2974890 D 72074 Tuebingen, Germany fax (49)7071-295233 http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/uni/thm/molgen/molgen.html Do it tomorrow, you've made enough mistakes today! x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
inbox sort order problem
I'm using mbox format, and I have procmail filtering ALL my mail into one of 3 mailboxes - 2 mailing lists get filtered into one mailbox each, and everything else gets filtered into =INBOX-Mutt. I also have these 3 folder-hooks: folder-hook =INBOX-Mutt set sort=reverse_date_received folder-hook =in-l-dbiusers set sort=threads folder-hook =in-l-muttusers set sort=threads Sometimes I notice that when I go into one of the mailing list mailboxes, and then come back to the INBOX-Mutt mailbox that the messages are NOT in the order I specified in the =INBOX-Mutt folder-hook. Is this the way it is supposed to work? My impression is that whenever I go into =INBOX-Mutt the order should be what I specified in the folder-hook. Am I wrong? Thanks. -- Hardy Merrill Mission Critical Linux, LLC http://www.missioncriticallinux.com
collapse-all
Is there a way to default the index view to "collapse-all" ? Thanks!
Re: inbox sort order problem
[00.05.05 13:38] Hardy Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > folder-hook =INBOX-Mutt set sort=reverse_date_received > folder-hook =in-l-dbiusers set sort=threads > folder-hook =in-l-muttusers set sort=threads > > Sometimes I notice that when I go into one of the mailing > list mailboxes, and then come back to the INBOX-Mutt > mailbox that the messages are NOT in the order I specified > in the =INBOX-Mutt folder-hook. Is this the way it is > supposed to work? My impression is that whenever I go into > =INBOX-Mutt the order should be what I specified in the > folder-hook. Am I wrong? Yes, you're right. I had a smiliar problem until I moved set sort=[some way] above folder-hook lines.
Re: collapse-all
On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 09:42:15PM +0800, billy chan thus spoke: > Is there a way to default the index view to "collapse-all" ? > Thanks! folder-hook . 'push V' mark-> -- Fairlight-> |||| Fairlight Consulting __/\__ ||| "I'm talking for free, | <__<>__> ||| It's a New Religion..." | http://www.fairlite.com \/||| --Le Bon | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: collapse-all
[00.05.05 14:44] Fairlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 09:42:15PM +0800, billy chan thus spoke: > > Is there a way to default the index view to "collapse-all" ? > > folder-hook . 'push V' Thanks, Mark. Thanks works like a charm!
How far away is mutt 1.2?
Would anyone care to hazard a realistic estimate (or even an unrealistic one) as to when we might see the release of mutt 1.2? -- // [EMAIL PROTECTED] //
Re: collapse-all
On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:50:23AM -0400, Fairlight muttered: | On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 09:42:15PM +0800, billy chan thus spoke: | > Is there a way to default the index view to "collapse-all" ? | > Thanks! | | | folder-hook . 'push V' single quotes and double quotes, neither worked for me | | mark-> | -- | Fairlight-> |||| Fairlight Consulting | __/\__ ||| "I'm talking for free, | | <__<>__> ||| It's a New Religion..." | http://www.fairlite.com | \/||| --Le Bon | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- /helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always been in your possession." Fingerprint: 2F76 2856 776A 3E07 9F3E 452A 17D9 9B28 D75E 0A36 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private! 1024D/D75E0A36
Re: collapse-all
On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:42:06AM -0500, Jason Helfman thus spoke: > On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:50:23AM -0400, Fairlight muttered: > | On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 09:42:15PM +0800, billy chan thus spoke: > | > Is there a way to default the index view to "collapse-all" ? > | > Thanks! > | > | > | folder-hook . 'push V' > > single quotes and double quotes, neither worked for me I had gotten this from a PhD on this list...can't remember their name rightly, but they helped me greatly when I got into mutt. It's worked for me under 0.95.7i and 1.0.1i, and still is. The original person asking for the method says it works for him. Did they break something in a later version? mark-> -- Fairlight-> |||| Fairlight Consulting __/\__ ||| "I'm talking for free, | <__<>__> ||| It's a New Religion..." | http://www.fairlite.com \/||| --Le Bon | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changing From: Header
Does anyone know of a way to change the "From:" address when sending an email. I know of a way in Pine but have been unsuccessful with Mutt. I need this because I send email from a Unix box with an ID that does not exist on our real email production system. I do not like using "Reply-To" because most people ignore this option and try to send to the "From:" field instead. I need a way to change this without changing my Unix ID on the box the email originated from. -- Corey Gaffney Systems Administrator MyPoints.Com (847) 969-8150 Ext: 4500
Re: collapse-all
Fairlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 05 May 2000: > On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:42:06AM -0500, Jason Helfman thus spoke: > > single quotes and double quotes, neither worked for me > > It's worked for me under 0.95.7i and 1.0.1i, and still is. The original > person asking for the method says it works for him. Did they break > something in a later version? Actually, the person asking the question is using 0.95.5 (according to the headers, anyway). So my guess is that it doesn't work in that version, he might want to try upgrading to 1.0 at least. Or 1.2 when it comes out, which is hopefully soon. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / "No more, no more a life without meaning..." -- The Corrs
Re: collapse-all
[00.05.05 12:56] Fairlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:42:06AM -0500, Jason Helfman thus spoke: > > On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:50:23AM -0400, Fairlight muttered: > > | folder-hook . 'push V' > > single quotes and double quotes, neither worked for me > > I had gotten this from a PhD on this list...can't remember their name > rightly, but they helped me greatly when I got into mutt. > > It's worked for me under 0.95.7i and 1.0.1i, and still is. The original > person asking for the method says it works for him. Did they break > something in a later version? I have it working under 1.1.14i.
application/pgp-signature unsupported?
If I have this in my .mailcap file: application/pgp; cat; copiousoutput application/pgp-keys; pgp -f < %s ; copiousoutput application/pgp-signature; cat ; copiousoutput and this in my .mime-typs file: application/pgppgp application/pgp-signature pgp gpg and if I have these in my .muttrc: set implicit_autoview # Always use the MIME-types defined in the ~/.mailcap # file to display MIME-attachments. # MIME-TYPES (listed in the .mailcap file for mutt's auto_view): auto_view application/octet-stream application/pgp application/pgp-signature \ application/postscript application/x-arj-compressed application/x-cpio \ application/x-csh application/x-gtar application/x-gunzip \ application/x-latex application/x-rar-compressed application/x-sh \ application/x-shar application/x-tar application/x-tar-gz \ application/x-tex \ application/x-troff application/x-troff-man \ application/x-troff-me \ application/x-zip-compressed \ image/* text/enriched text/html why have I begun to see this at the end of mail messages in mutt: [-- Attachment #2 --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.2K --] [-- application/pgp-signature is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) along with the warning: mailcap entry for type application/pgp-signature not found??? -- // [EMAIL PROTECTED] //
Re: Changing From: Header
Corey -- ...and then Corey G. said... % % Does anyone know of a way to change the "From:" address when sending an email. I know of a way Yep; just use the my_hdr command to write your own. Check the manual's section 3.12 for more, but here's how I set mine: send-hook . my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T-G) :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. Note: If bigfoot.com gives you fits, try sector13.org in its place. *sigh* PGP signature
Re: Changing From: Header
On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:18:23AM -0500, Corey G. wrote: > Does anyone know of a way to change the "From:" address when sending an email. I >know of a way > in Pine but have been unsuccessful with Mutt. I need this because I send email from >a Unix box > with an ID that does not exist on our real email production system. I do not like >using "Reply-To" because > most people ignore this option and try to send to the "From:" field instead. I need >a way to change > this without changing my Unix ID on the box the email originated from. Put in your muttrc: my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: Changing From: Header
On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:18:23AM -0500, Corey G. thus spoke: > > Does anyone know of a way to change the "From:" address when sending an email. I >know of a way > in Pine but have been unsuccessful with Mutt. I need this because I send email from >a Unix box > with an ID that does not exist on our real email production system. I do not like >using "Reply-To" because > most people ignore this option and try to send to the "From:" field instead. I need >a way to change > this without changing my Unix ID on the box the email originated from. On the send menu screen hit escape f. Alternately, set a my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mark-> -- Fairlight-> |||| Fairlight Consulting __/\__ ||| "I'm talking for free, | <__<>__> ||| It's a New Religion..." | http://www.fairlite.com \/||| --Le Bon | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Courier IMAP w/ vpopmail
I am trying to get Courier IMAP working on a vpopmail install. It seems to accept the login OK. At least it doesn't complain about the username or the password, but it does say 'no mailbox' and, of course, doesn't show me my mail. I am using essentially the same imap settings I use on another server running the UofW imapd. I am using this for the spool setting: set spoolfile = {amazhan}INBOX I have also tried inbox in lower case... Any ideas? Thanks, Ben -- Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. First of all you force him to drop the banana; then, second, you eat the banana, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him helpless. - Monty Python
Re: collapse-all
super, i have 1.1.13 or 12, what is the exact syntax you are using? On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 01:51:51AM +0800, billy chan muttered: | [00.05.05 12:56] Fairlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:42:06AM -0500, Jason Helfman thus spoke: | > > On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:50:23AM -0400, Fairlight muttered: | > > | folder-hook . 'push V' | > > single quotes and double quotes, neither worked for me | > | > I had gotten this from a PhD on this list...can't remember their name | > rightly, but they helped me greatly when I got into mutt. | > | > It's worked for me under 0.95.7i and 1.0.1i, and still is. The original | > person asking for the method says it works for him. Did they break | > something in a later version? | | I have it working under 1.1.14i. -- /helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always been in your possession." Fingerprint: 2F76 2856 776A 3E07 9F3E 452A 17D9 9B28 D75E 0A36 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private! 1024D/D75E0A36
refresh automatically?
Mutt 1.0.1 Is there a way for mail_check's 5 second check to automatically redraw the index if there is new mail? Elm used to do this and I really miss it. It doesn't seem to do anything so long as there is no keyboard input. mark-> -- Fairlight-> |||| Fairlight Consulting __/\__ ||| "I'm talking for free, | <__<>__> ||| It's a New Religion..." | http://www.fairlite.com \/||| --Le Bon | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: refresh automatically?
Fairlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 05 May 2000: > Is there a way for mail_check's 5 second check to automatically redraw the > index if there is new mail? Elm used to do this and I really miss it. It > doesn't seem to do anything so long as there is no keyboard input. This is a bit of a hazy area for me, so I could be wrong here, however this is how I understand it: $mail_check is how often *at most* to check for new mail, when there is keyboard input. Normally Mutt checks for new email when the user does something, but it won't if $mail_check seconds has not yet passed since the last time. The time of how often to check for new mail when there is *no* keyboard input is controlled by a variable called, somewhat confusingly, $timeout (ie. "timeout waiting for user input"). Sounds like you want to set $timeout to a much shorter value than the default of 600 (seconds). Hope this helps, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one.
Re: refresh automatically?
yes, that helps, thanks! -- Fairlight-> |||| Fairlight Consulting __/\__ ||| "I'm talking for free, | <__<>__> ||| It's a New Religion..." | http://www.fairlite.com \/||| --Le Bon | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
scoring and aliases
So I'm fairly new to mutt, so I could certainly be on crack and have over looked the relevent documentation but how does one do scoring with aliases? I would like to think something like the following is possible: score '~f the_guys' 100 where the_guys is defined by: alias the_guys jon, wes, james, mike alias jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias wes [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias james [EMAIL PROTECTED] but sadly it doesn't seem to be the case. I would think it wouldn't be to hard something like that to look up the aliases. But I can't see how one gets the score thing to take anything besides a pattern, and given a pattern how to look up aliases instead of regexs. If anyone has some thoughts on this subject I'd love to hear them. Thanks. peace, --e;
Re: viewing html emails in mutt
> I'm expecting to see a nice html page - am I expecting too much, > or am I just doing something wrong? I'm just quoting this to make a question. Sorry to the original poster O:-) ;-) I've thought a lot of times about the html-email thing. And I've come to a conclusion, but as I don't know very much about all this email and internet world, I put it here to see what you think :-) (yes, yes, it's related to Mutt ... well, sort of O:-)) I think that html email will become the standart. I've got only two reasons to think this: - The most used MUAs (Windows based) use by default html to compose emails. They're also full of bugs, as we're seeing nowadays, but anyway there's a lot of people using them. - If Internet access and speed become greater everyday, and the html tags don't cause too much performance loss (in terms of net traffic, I mean) ... why not? I mean, what are the reasons that make html (or maybe xml or a derivated thing) not suited for email? This is related to Mutt because maybe in a near future we see html emails as the norm, and not the exception, and some kind of html rendering engine gets implemented into Mutt. What's your opinion related to this? a) "You'll get html email support when hell freezes over." b) "I don't care. I'll decide it when it happens." c) "You're too much on Prozac. Stop it." Thanks in advance :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto · "If it can break, [EMAIL PROTECTED]· It'll break" Corgo/Lugo/Galicia/Spain ·(Murphy's Law)
Re: scoring and aliases
Eric Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 05 May 2000: > how does one do scoring with aliases? Hmm, that's an interesting question, I've never heard of anyone ask how one can do that. The short answer is that it can't be done. The long answer is still that it can't be done, but it might be a useful addition... Perhaps a new (secondary?) pattern operator or something? Example: "~f ~a myalias" would match any email from "myalias", where "myalias" can be a single address or a list of aliases/addresses. Opinions? Mail-Followup-To directed to mutt-dev, because it's more on-topic there. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy & scifi, the Corrs / Many people quit looking for work when they find a job.
Re: Changing From: Header
> David T-G (Fri 05.0500-14:13): > Yep; just use the my_hdr command to write your own. Check the manual's > section 3.12 for more, but here's how I set mine: > > send-hook . my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T-G) you can even leave out the "send-hook". -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: viewing html emails in mutt
Hi! On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 12:48:12AM +0200, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: > I think that html email will become the standart. I've got only two > reasons to think this: > > - The most used MUAs (Windows based) use by default html to compose > emails. They're also full of bugs, as we're seeing nowadays, but > anyway there's a lot of people using them. Right, but most people kindly change that default once s.o. pointed to them that html-mail sucks. > - If Internet access and speed become greater everyday, and the html > tags don't cause too much performance loss (in terms of net traffic, > I mean) ... why not? True, but that's not the point. > I mean, what are the reasons that make html (or > maybe xml or a derivated thing) not suited for email? 1. Many widespread mail clients are not capable of viewing html-mails. Especially on unix systems of cause. These users won't change their favorite client just because some people think html-mail is cool. 2. Email is a means of communication. You want the recipient to be able to read the message you send him. See [1.] 3. Well, I don't like pink colored fonts, blinking text, etc. Html gives you more options to make the text look ugly ;-) Many people using html-mail tend to use TT-fonts which don't exit on my linux box. I even got a message with a background picture! 4. Html is simply unnecessary for email. If you want to send s.o. a html page, you could attach it. 5. Security. What happens with malicious java script code in an html-mail? > This is related to Mutt because maybe in a near future we see html > emails as the norm, and not the exception, and some kind of html rendering > engine gets implemented into Mutt. I don't think this will happen in the near future. It would break all design principles mutt has had until now. Keep it small and fast. If there's and external program that can do the job use it (lynx, nescape). > What's your opinion related to this? > > a) "You'll get html email support when hell freezes over." > b) "I don't care. I'll decide it when it happens." > c) "You're too much on Prozac. Stop it." > a) of cause! ;-) Michael -- Algol-60 surely must be regarded as the most important programming language yet developed. -- T. Cheatham PGP-fingerprint: DECA E9D2 EBDD 0FE0 0A65 40FA 5967 ACA1 0B57 7C13
Re: Courier IMAP w/ vpopmail
On Friday, 05 May 2000 at 14:12, Ben Beuchler wrote: > I am trying to get Courier IMAP working on a vpopmail install. It seems > to accept the login OK. At least it doesn't complain about the username > or the password, but it does say 'no mailbox' and, of course, doesn't show > me my mail. > > I am using essentially the same imap settings I use on another server > running the UofW imapd. I am using this for the spool setting: > > set spoolfile = {amazhan}INBOX > > I have also tried inbox in lower case... INBOX is a case-insensitive special word, FYI. I can't tell what's wrong, but as usual, the best way to figure out what's happening is to run a debug-enabled mutt with a -d4 argument, and look at the session transcript in .muttdebug0 -B PGP signature
Re: collapse-all
[00.05.05 02:38] [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > super, i have 1.1.13 or 12, what is the exact syntax you are using? > > On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 01:51:51AM +0800, billy chan muttered: > | I have it working under 1.1.14i. >== ~/.muttrc == folder-hook =list* set sort=threads folder-hook =list* "push V" >== snip end == Do you have a line "set sort=[some way]"? Try to put this line above or below the folder-hook lines to see if that makes a difference.
Re: application/pgp-signature unsupported?
On Fri 05/05/00 at 02:07 PM -0400, Russell Hoover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why have I begun to see this at the end of mail messages in mutt: > [-- application/pgp-signature is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) > > along with the warning: > mailcap entry for type application/pgp-signature not found??? It was working fine -- only began to see this recently. Anyone have any clues? (Forgot to add the following info): Mutt 1.0.1i (2000-01-18) Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: NetBSD 1.4.2_ALPHA [using slang 10310] Compile options: DOMAIN="panix.com" -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK -USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP -USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/mail" SHAREDIR="/pkg/mutt-1.0.1i/libdata/mutt-1.0.1" SYSCONFDIR="/pkg/mutt-1.0.1i/libdata/mutt-1.0.1" ISPELL="/usr/local/bin/ispell" To contact the developers, please mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. NetBSD panix6.panix.com 1.4.2_ALPHA NetBSD 1.4.2_ALPHA (PANIX-USER) #0: Thu Dec 30 15:20:45 EST 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/devel/netbsd/ release/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/PANIX-USER i386 -- // [EMAIL PROTECTED] //
Re: viewing html emails in mutt
> Roberto Suarez Soto (Sat 06.0500-00:48): > This is related to Mutt because maybe in a near future we see html > emails as the norm, and not the exception, and some kind of html rendering > engine gets implemented into Mutt. > > What's your opinion related to this? get a nice html-renderer like lynx and have it decode html-messages from out of mutt. works any day, any time. configuration: rtfm. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]