Re: Abort unmodified message

[Jim Toth]

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:11:39AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Forget it, sorry. I had vim configured, when I am using vi.

If you were trying to use gvim (and want to), try 

set editor="gvim -f"

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Re: Some IMAP questions

[Chris Green]

On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 05:47:45PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote:
> Chris Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 3 - Is there any way to get mutt in *non-IMAP* mode to 'see' maildir
> > directories starting with a '.'?
> 
> Mutt normally doesn't show files that start with "." because of this
> default setting:
> 
> set mask="!^\.[^.]"
> 
> If you unset it, I suppose you would see everything.
> 
Absolutely right
set mask=""
does exactly what I want, thanks!

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Re: mailboxes lists

[cFischer]

On Mon-01.05.00-23:31, Stefan Bender wrote:
> I have in my .muttrc:
> 
> set folder=~/Maildirs
> set spoolfile=+incoming
> set postponed=+postponed

are you running procmail()?  i ask this because i just got myself a copy,
and i noticed that the "normal unix way" of things would deliver your mail
to "/var/mail/$USER" or the like, but never to a private folder
(+incoming).  if so, how's your general setup?

> And -- IIRC -- multiple slashes in path names don't matter, so it can
> insert it anyway, even if there is already one. :-)

the / at the end is one of the easier ones, and most unixes don't mind...

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Re: Condotional move to mbox

[cFischer]

Condotional  -* YEAH! *-

Re: Forcing a rescan of folder

[David DeSimone]

Mikko Hänninen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I use Maildir over NFS.  I find myself frequently in a situation where
> I see in my incoming mail log that I've gotten mail in a particular
> folder while I'm reading it, but Mutt doesn't seem to notice it.  It
> certainly takes much longer than the 5 seconds that the $mail_check
> value would indicate, assuming I understood its meaning correctly... 
> I wonder if this could possibly be some sort of NFS caching issue or
> something?

That would be quite unfortunate, as NFS is one of the main reasons to
prefer maildir over other mailbox formats.  Mutt does, though, appear to
pay attention to the modified time on the directory, as an optimization
for checking for new messages.  So it looks like that could well be the
issue.  Try playing around with storing files in a directory from one
NFS client, then examining the modified time of the directory from
another client.

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Re: macro to delete all msgs

[Frank Pittel]

When I want to clear out a mailbox I simply use what by default is
bound to "D". This deletes messages matching a pattern. I then use "*"
as the pattern.

I suppose this could be made into a macro but I've never gone the
effort.

L8R
Frank

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 05:48:57AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I need a macro to exec the following commands :
> " tag all the messages in the current mailbox, and then delete the tagged messages". 
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to do this ...
> 
> thanks
> prabhakar
> 

Re: 1.1.12 build problem on Linux

[Arnaud Launay]

Le Tue, May 02, 2000 at 03:38:39PM +0100, Chris Green a écrit:
> 'make install' is still trying to create /usr/local/doc which, not
> surprisingly, doesn't work.  It seems to be installing the rest of
> mutt in the right places below /home/d/chris (at least until the make
> dies).

Also, a "make check" failed in the doc directory

Making check in doc
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/mutt/doc'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `check'.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mutt/doc'
make: *** [check-recursive] Error 1

Arnaud.

My .muttrc

[Tim Waugh]

I finally switched from Pine to Mutt the weekend before last, and now
I have it customized just how I like it.  If anyone is interested,
I've put my .muttrc here:

http://people.redhat.com/twaugh/conf/>

Tim.
*/

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Re: 1.1.12 build problem on Linux

[Chris Green]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 03:38:39PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> I am trying to build 1.1.12 on a Debian Linux system. Although I have
> done:-
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/home/d/chris
> 
> 'make install' is still trying to create /usr/local/doc which, not
> surprisingly, doesn't work.  It seems to be installing the rest of
> mutt in the right places below /home/d/chris (at least until the make
> dies).
> 
I found the problem, I needed to remove config.cache after doing it
wrong the first time around.  I'm still not clear why it was only the
doc directory that got left with the old setting and others got
changed but never mind.


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1.1.12 build problem on Linux

[Chris Green]

I am trying to build 1.1.12 on a Debian Linux system. Although I have
done:-

./configure --prefix=/home/d/chris

'make install' is still trying to create /usr/local/doc which, not
surprisingly, doesn't work.  It seems to be installing the rest of
mutt in the right places below /home/d/chris (at least until the make
dies).

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Re: lockfile problem since 1.1.3

[Brendan Cully]

On Tuesday, 02 May 2000 at 13:10, Bernd Eggink wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> in all version since 1.1.3 (up to 1.1.12) I get these messages when mutt
> starts and ends:
> 
>   Error creating
>   /var/spool/mail/rz2a022.lock.956910752.49678.rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de:
>   Permission denied
> 
> where rz2a022 is my imap account, rzaixsrv2 the imap server. The imap
> related entries in my .muttrc are
> 
> set spoolfile={rzaixsrv2}/var/spool/mail/rz2a022
> set imap_user="rz2a022"
> 
> Apart from the message, mutt seems to work properly, but the message
> sucks, and I didn't get it in 1.1.2. Any ideas what to do? 

Your IMAP server is somewhat misconfigured. You have two options:

1. fix your server - probably it's running as uid rz2a022 and the
spool directory isn't world writable. Getting UW to run setgid mail is
possible, but a hassle.

2. make mutt ignore the error messages, as 1.1.2 used to do:
   unset $imap_servernoise

-Brendan
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Q: Mutt and PGP 6.5.1i?

[Dave Ewart]

Dear All,

On Friday, I sent a message to this list about using PGP 6.5.1i and got
absolutely no response whatsoever, which, given the general
discussion/response I've seen in the past and to other current posts,
surprised me.  I assume the message did get through, because I received a
copy of my message from the normal list address ...

Is no-one else using PGP 6.5.1i with Mutt?

Dave.
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ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK

Re: setting envelope from how?

[Claus Assmann]

On Tue, May 02, 2000, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

> Uh, right now this is a SUSE box with sendmail. I fiddled with sendmail.cf
> and filled in the correct masquerading stuff. Sendmail sucks. Big time.

Yeah, if you "fiddled with sendmail.cf"...
It requires two lines in your .mc file:
MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain')
FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

Re: ?

[T.E.Dickey]

> 
> > > Is possible to defining for a bind key something like :  
> > >  ?  
> >  
> > generally not.  a small percentage of terminal (emulators) generate distinct 
> > codes for shifted function keys. 
> >
>  
> Thanks for your kind reply. 
> I'll do without the shifted arrow keys :-) 
>  
> And what about the ALT modifier ? 
> \ac ALT + C seems to not work too :-) 

The same: the modifiers (shift, control, numlock, alt) are generally available
in most combinations for graphic terminals (and PC's) because they use a
different arrangement for transmitting key symbols to the host.

The vt100 (and similar) terminals transmit only specific combinations.
some later terminals (and emulators such as xterm) add more combinations,
but generally within the original framework.  So xterm has a feature that
lets you send c as c, but does that as an alternative to sending
one of the codes in the range 160-255.  (Linux console implements something
very similar to that).

A few terminal emulators do generate distinct escape sequences for modifiers
with function keys (I did this for XFree86 xterm; rxvt does - but the form
of the escape sequences is non-standard, and I've seen OS/2 do this also).
But generally it's not available.

-- 
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Mailbox read only? was Re: setting envelope from how?

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 12:37:25PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

> >   my_hdr From: Lutz Jaenicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> This is not the envelope from...

But it gets derived from that. Anyway, the reason why that didn't work was
because I set my_hdr From: from within a send-hook only...

> Uh, right now this is a SUSE box with sendmail. I fiddled with sendmail.cf
> and filled in the correct masquerading stuff. Sendmail sucks. Big time.

Now I have another problem:

I set up a simple .procmailrc :
:0:
$HOME/Mail/inbox

which is supposed to deliver all mail to ~/Mail/inbox
That works.

Unfortunately mutt (1.1.12i) can't delete anything in this mailbox:

Mailbox is read-only.

($HOME is mounted via NFS)

Any ideas?

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Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb
I trust Microsoft. 
I trust them to be spectacularly unable to get anything right,
including and especially hard things like large-scale industrial
espionage. Sure, they'll make clownish, clumsy stabs at it and fail in
predictable, amusing and embarassing ways, and then do it all over
again. And their victi^H^H users will not only forgive them but spend
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lockfile problem since 1.1.3

[Bernd Eggink]

Hi,

in all version since 1.1.3 (up to 1.1.12) I get these messages when mutt
starts and ends:

  Error creating
  /var/spool/mail/rz2a022.lock.956910752.49678.rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de:
  Permission denied

where rz2a022 is my imap account, rzaixsrv2 the imap server. The imap
related entries in my .muttrc are

set spoolfile={rzaixsrv2}/var/spool/mail/rz2a022
set imap_user="rz2a022"

Apart from the message, mutt seems to work properly, but the message
sucks, and I didn't get it in 1.1.2. Any ideas what to do? 

Thanks in advance,
Bernd

-- 
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Regionales Rechenzentrum der Uni Hamburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/eggink/BEggink.html

Re: macro to delete all msgs

[Mikko Hänninen]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tue, 02 May 2000:
> I need a macro to exec the following commands :
> " tag all the messages in the current mailbox, and then delete the tagged messages". 
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to do this ...

Something like this, I didn't test it though:

  macro index \ea "~A"

Change \ea if you want it bound to something else than Esc-a.


Hope this helps,
Mikko
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Re: setting envelope from how?

[Thomas Roessler]

On 2000-05-02 12:37:25 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

> Uh, right now this is a SUSE box with sendmail. I
> fiddled with sendmail.cf and filled in the correct
> masquerading stuff. Sendmail sucks. Big time.

Hey, when fiddling with the sendmail.cf is an option,
switching to your favorite MTA may be one, too... ;-)


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Re: setting envelope from how?

[Thomas Roessler]

On 2000-05-02 11:28:26 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

> set hostname = "innominate.de"

> but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from
> mutt should use when talking to my local sendmail?

   envelope_from
   Type: boolean
   Default: no
   
   When set, mutt will try to derive the message's
   envelope sender from the "From:" header.  Note that
   this information is passed to sendmail command
   using the "-f" command line switch, so don't set
   this option if you are using that switch in send­
   mail yourself, or if the sendmail on your machine
   doesn't support that command line switch.


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Re: setting envelope from how?

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:46:12AM +0200, Lutz Jaenicke wrote:


> Specify your "From" address with the
>   my_hdr From: Lutz Jaenicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is not the envelope from...

> setting or fix the local MTA on proto.bln.innominate.de to generate a
> valid from address when none is given (or have a mail_relay on the way
> (gulliver?) rewrite internal hostnames and/or mail-addresses, using e.g.
> sender_canonical since I presume you prefer postfix :-).

Uh, right now this is a SUSE box with sendmail. I fiddled with sendmail.cf
and filled in the correct masquerading stuff. Sendmail sucks. Big time.

-- 
Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb
If you tell them, they never listen. If they listen, they never
learn. If they learn, they never remember. If they remember, they
never obey. 


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Re: setting envelope from how?

[Martin Macok]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:28:26AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> My problem: The envelope from is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I already tried to
> 
> set hostname = "innominate.de"
> 
> but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from mutt should use
> when talking to my local sendmail?

try
set sendmail="/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -oem -f [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
or something similar ...

bye

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Re: ?

[T.E.Dickey]

> Is possible to defining for a bind key something like : 
>  ? 

generally not.  a small percentage of terminal (emulators) generate distinct
codes for shifted function keys.
  
> In other words how to define the combination of cursor up (or down, etc  
> etc) and the shift key. 
>  
> I experiment also , but id doesn't work :-) 
>  
> Thanks again for attention  
>  
>  
> --  
> Regards... 
>  
> Gianmarco 
> "Unix expert since yesterday" 
>  
> http://www.giovannelli.it 


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macro to delete all msgs

[prabhakar]

I need a macro to exec the following commands :
" tag all the messages in the current mailbox, and then delete the tagged messages". 

Can anyone tell me how to do this ...

thanks
prabhakar

Re: setting envelope from how?

[Lutz Jaenicke]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:28:26AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> My problem: The envelope from is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I already tried to
> 
> set hostname = "innominate.de"
> 
> but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from mutt should use when
> talking to my local sendmail?

mutt is not using port 25, it uses the sendmail command line interface.
Specify your "From" address with the
  my_hdr From: Lutz Jaenicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
setting or fix the local MTA on proto.bln.innominate.de to generate a
valid from address when none is given (or have a mail_relay on the way
(gulliver?) rewrite internal hostnames and/or mail-addresses, using e.g.
sender_canonical since I presume you prefer postfix :-).

Best regards,
Lutz
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Lehrstuhl Allgemeine Elektrotechnik  Tel. +49 355 69-4129
Universitaetsplatz 3-4, D-03044 Cottbus  Fax. +49 355 69-4153

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Re: ?

[Vincent Lefevre]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 05:35:50 -0400, T.E.Dickey wrote:
> > Is possible to defining for a bind key something like : 
> >  ? 
> 
> generally not.  a small percentage of terminal (emulators) generate distinct
> codes for shifted function keys.

If you're under X, you can ask it to do this (man xmodmap).

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validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des
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Re: Condotional move to mbox

[Michael Elkins]

On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 11:45:38PM +0100, Chris Armour wrote:
> Hi, I'm looking for a way to perform a move from spoolfile to mbox
> only on messages with no flags set on them, in the same way as
> messages with the new or old flags set don't get moved.  Is this possible
> at all?

Mutt has no support for automatically moving messages in such a manner.  It
is purely based upon whether or not the message has been seen by the user.

me
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Re: Q: Mutt and PGP 6.5.1i?

[Michael Elkins]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 03:05:39PM +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:
> Is no-one else using PGP 6.5.1i with Mutt?

I believe most people are using either gpg or pgp 2.6.x since the source is
readily available.

me
-- 
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Re: setting envelope from how?

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 05:27:35AM -0700, Claus Assmann wrote:

> > Uh, right now this is a SUSE box with sendmail. I fiddled with sendmail.cf
> > and filled in the correct masquerading stuff. Sendmail sucks. Big time.
> 
> Yeah, if you "fiddled with sendmail.cf"...
> It requires two lines in your .mc file:
> MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain')
> FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

After getting a little more familar with how things are done in SUSE I
tweaked the "correct" config files. Anyway, right now I'm just too lazy to
throw away sendmail :)

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"It's 806 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of coffee, half a
fsckload of Y2K crap, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses." 
"Hit it". 


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Re: macro to delete all msgs

[Fairlight]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 05:48:57AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] thus spoke:
> 
> I need a macro to exec the following commands :
> " tag all the messages in the current mailbox, and then delete the tagged messages". 
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to do this ...

Here's mine.  Keep in mind I have threads collapsed a lot of times...if
you have any collapsed at all, this will uncompress so they can be tagged.

folder-hook . 'push V'

That one collapses all threads on entering a folder.

macro index \Cx ":push VD~A\n\n"

And this one expands and deletes all when I hit ^x.

Bests,

mark->
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viewing html emails in mutt

[Hardy Merrill]

Another newbie question - I've setup my .mailcap file to include

text/html; lynx %s

I receive html email from ZDNet, and what happens for these
messages is the pager says that "text/html" is not supported,
and I should use "v" to view attachments.  So I press "v" to
get the list of attachments(there's only 1) and I select that
one attachment - "lynx" comes up(I think) and displays the page,
but the page is not properly formatted html - it's just text with
the html tags included, which is quite a mess.

I'm expecting to see a nice html page - am I expecting too much,
or am I just doing something wrong?

Thanks for any help.

-- 
Hardy Merrill
Mission Critical Linux, LLC
http://www.missioncriticallinux.com

Re: viewing html emails in mutt

[Jim Toth]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 02:38:23PM -0400, Hardy Merrill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
> Another newbie question - I've setup my .mailcap file to include
> 
> text/html; lynx %s
> 
[snip--sees source not html formatted]
> I'm expecting to see a nice html page - am I expecting too much,
> or am I just doing something wrong?

Lynx doesn't see .html on the end and assumes it must be text.  Try
changing it to:

text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force_html %s


-- 
Jim Toth
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"Abraham Lincoln did not die in vain.  He died in Washington, DC."
--The Firesign Theatre

Re: viewing html emails in mutt

[Shawn D. McPeek]

This is what I use:

text/html; lynx %s; needsterminal; nametemplate=%s.html

Shawn

Previously, Hardy Merrill wrote:
:> Another newbie question - I've setup my .mailcap file to include
:> 
:> text/html; lynx %s
:> 
:> I receive html email from ZDNet, and what happens for these
:> messages is the pager says that "text/html" is not supported,
:> and I should use "v" to view attachments.  So I press "v" to
:> get the list of attachments(there's only 1) and I select that
:> one attachment - "lynx" comes up(I think) and displays the page,
:> but the page is not properly formatted html - it's just text with
:> the html tags included, which is quite a mess.
:> 
:> I'm expecting to see a nice html page - am I expecting too much,
:> or am I just doing something wrong?
:> 
:> Thanks for any help.
:> 
:> -- 
:> Hardy Merrill
:> Mission Critical Linux, LLC
:> http://www.missioncriticallinux.com

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The time when men of reason go to bed.
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Re: Q: Mutt and PGP 6.5.1i?

[rex]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 07:30:31AM -0700, Michael Elkins wrote:
> On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 03:05:39PM +0100, Dave Ewart wrote:
> > Is no-one else using PGP 6.5.1i with Mutt?
> 
> I believe most people are using either gpg or pgp 2.6.x since the source is
> readily available.

The PGP 6.5.1i-beta2 source is available at:
http://www.pgpi.org/products/nai/pgp/versions/freeware/unix/6.5.1i/download/

-rex

-- 
I can walk on water, but on alcohol I tend to stagger.

Re: Q: Mutt and PGP 6.5.1i?

[Thomas Roessler]

On 2000-05-02 19:44:17 +, rex wrote:

> The PGP 6.5.1i-beta2 source is available at:
> http://www.pgpi.org/products/nai/pgp/versions/freeware/unix/6.5.1i/download/

Additionally, at least the 1.1 branch has a sample
configuration file for use with PGP 6.

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Re: how specify sender address?

[Dirk Huebner]

Hardy Merrill: Monday, 01 May 2000:

> I'm getting an error when I try to reply to a list - the mail error
> message says "Sender domain must exist" - so I think it's having
> trouble with my domain.  Is there a way I can specify *my* address
> that gets put on outgoing mail?

my_hdr From: you 

Greetings, 
Dirk

Re: viewing html emails in mutt

[Tom Hall]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 02:49:49PM -0400, Jim Toth wrote:
> On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 02:38:23PM -0400, Hardy Merrill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
> > Another newbie question - I've setup my .mailcap file to include
> > 
> > text/html; lynx %s
> > 
> [snip--sees source not html formatted]
> > I'm expecting to see a nice html page - am I expecting too much,
> > or am I just doing something wrong?
> 
> Lynx doesn't see .html on the end and assumes it must be text.  Try
> changing it to:
> 
> text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force_html %s
Also, make sure you have
   auto_view text/html

-Tom

small mailing list using mutt

[prabhakar + nitika]

Thanks a lot for all the replies to my prev. message for a macro 
to delete all messages. 

I have another q.:
I am trying to setup a distribution list of about 6 users, that I 
send mail to most of the time. I do not have a constant net connection 
and am a dialup user. My config. is Mandrake 7.0 on a Dell laptop.
I use qmail as my MDA, procmail as my LDA and mutt as my MUA. Is 
there anyway that I can set up a list of aliases/email addresses 
and use mutt to send the same message to all of them, without having 
all the addresses I am sending to show up in "cc:" or the "to:" headers.
It seems like overkill to set up a mailing list manager for this.
Does anyone have any insight into this ...

appreciate any help or info.

thanks
prabhakar

Re: viewing html emails in mutt

[Mrinal Kalakrishnan]

Hi,

Hardy Merrill typed:
> one attachment - "lynx" comes up(I think) and displays the page,
> but the page is not properly formatted html - it's just text with
> the html tags included, which is quite a mess.

Use the -force_html option of lynx to display it as HTML. A better way
to do it is to get the output of `lynx -dump -force_html %s' and get
it displayed in the pager. Use this is your mailcap file:

text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; copiousoutput

And add the command `auto_view text/html' to your .muttrc file.

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collapsed threads...

[Jason Helfman]

Is their a way to sort my thread, but have them collapsed?
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Re: small mailing list using mutt

[Mikko Hänninen]

prabhakar + nitika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tue, 02 May 2000:
> I am trying to setup a distribution list of about 6 users, that I 
> send mail to most of the time. I do not have a constant net connection 
> and am a dialup user. My config. is Mandrake 7.0 on a Dell laptop.
> I use qmail as my MDA, procmail as my LDA and mutt as my MUA.

I guess you meant qmail as your MTA and procmail as your MDA.
(What's LDA? Local Delivery Agent?)

> Is 
> there anyway that I can set up a list of aliases/email addresses 
> and use mutt to send the same message to all of them, without having 
> all the addresses I am sending to show up in "cc:" or the "to:" headers.
> It seems like overkill to set up a mailing list manager for this.
> Does anyone have any insight into this ...

You have several options:

The Mutt-based:
1) Set up a Mutt alias with the addresses and when sending your message,
put this alias in the Bcc: field.  In the To: field, put yourself or
perhaps something like "undisclosed-recipients:;".

The non-Mutt-based:
2) Create a .qmail file for this list, either under your own account's
control (.qmail-list in your home dir, then send email to
prabhakar-list@yourcomputer) or under ~alias.  In this file list the
6 addresses.  For more info about .qmail files look at "man dot-qmail".


Hope this helps,
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Re: collapsed threads...

[David T-G]

Jason --

...and then Jason Helfman said...
% Is their a way to sort my thread, but have them collapsed?

Collapsing threads has nothing to do with being able to sort or not, so
just set sort=threads (and perhaps sort_aux=date or some such).  To
collapse all threads, you must press esc-V, whether you do it yourself or
have .muttrc push the keystrokes for you.

Thus, if you always wanted your threads collapsed, a simple

  folder-hook . push "\eV"

should* do it for you.  If you only want that in certain folders, then
modify your folder-hook pattern accordingly.

I found that there is no way to default to collapsed threads when I was
playing a while back; push was the only thing that I could get to work at
that time, and I just had to live with the index display and repaint.
Ah, well...

*Code untested, and I don't use push myself; try it and see.


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news

[cFischer]

jaello out there!

i'm inmidst of throwing pine() overboard and switch to mutt(), 'cause it's
better.  except for this one thing:  pine has a standard nntp-interface, so
on small sites it connects to, say, leafnode(), and larger sites serve
inn() with databases and all that jazz.

can i trick mutt into regarding the news spool directories as mail-folders,
if i put in .mh-sequence files or such?  if yes, what has to be the
contents of them?  i can take any message anytime and pipe it through
formail (procmail), thereby turning plain text into rfc822 messages, but i
think i want news, also!

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Re: viewing html emails in mutt

[Gary Johnson]

On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 12:31:11AM +0530, Mrinal Kalakrishnan wrote:

> Hardy Merrill typed:
> > one attachment - "lynx" comes up(I think) and displays the page,
> > but the page is not properly formatted html - it's just text with
> > the html tags included, which is quite a mess.
> 
> Use the -force_html option of lynx to display it as HTML. A better way
> to do it is to get the output of `lynx -dump -force_html %s' and get
> it displayed in the pager. Use this is your mailcap file:
> 
> text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; copiousoutput
> 
> And add the command `auto_view text/html' to your .muttrc file.

Or you may want to do both:  display the text in the pager from the
index menu, and use lynx directly (so that you can easily follow links,
for example) from the attachment menu.  To do this, put these two lines
in your mailcap file:

text/html; lynx -force_html %s
text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; copiousoutput

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Selecting an IMAP folder to save a message to - how?

[Chris Green]

If I have a message on my local machine (in a maildir actually) and I
want to save it to a folder on an IMAP server how do I go about
getting a listing of the folders on the IMAP system to find where to
save the message?

As I have mutt's folder variable set to a local directory a ? just
shows the local mail folder hierarchy, I want a way to see the IMAP
server folder hierarchy too.

What would be *really* neat would be a way of having a 'pseudo-folder'
on the local system which would be a link to the remote IMAP server
hierarchy but that might be asking a lot.

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upgrade to 1.1.12i -=> strange behaviour :-(

[Steffan Hoeke]

Hi,

After an upgrade to 1.1.12i I get the strange behaviour that every now and then I get 
the message
"Mailbox externally modified, flags may be wrong"
I don't know what's modifying my Maildir :-(
The only change AFAIK is the mentioned upgrade ...

TIA,
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Re: mailboxes lists

[Stefan Bender]

Hello,

cFischer wrote on Tue, May 02 2000 19:45:38:
> On Mon-01.05.00-23:31, Stefan Bender wrote:
> > I have in my .muttrc:
> > 
> > set folder=~/Maildirs
> > set spoolfile=+incoming
> > set postponed=+postponed
> 
> are you running procmail()?  i ask this because i just got myself a
> copy, and i noticed that the "normal unix way" of things would
> deliver your mail to "/var/mail/$USER" or the like, but never to a
> private folder (+incoming).  if so, how's your general setup?

I'm indeed running procmail, because I like to have mail where it
belongs to (ie. there are some mailing lists and so on, and I don't
want to mix threads or sort them out :)
I use qmail as MTA and there you can choose between (unsafe according
to D.J. Bernstein) delivery to a public (and world writable (but maybe
just mail writable)) mailfolder such as /var/mail/$user (which is mbox
format) or to, say $HOME/Mailbox (a mbox in each users $HOME dir),
avoiding to have a world writeable directory.
Having qmail as MTA I switched entirely to the maildir format for my
mails and discovered procmails delivery facilities to sort mails to my
personal folders (thanks to this list, I learned some things just by
reading :-)
So if you ask about my general setup, it's just qmail as MTA, a
personal .qmail file, which runs procmail, some recipies in
.procmailrc to sort the mails (don't forget to add a `/' for
_maildirs_ and proper versions of procmail :) and that's it.
I'm lucky that this is my own computer and I'm my own sysadm right
now, but you may have to ask your sysadmin to install procmail for
you, to make it possible to move mails from /var/mail (or
/var/spool/mail) to your home directory. Or does anyone know that
procmail runs properly even without suid root?

> > And -- IIRC -- multiple slashes in path names don't matter, so it can
> > insert it anyway, even if there is already one. :-)
> 
> the / at the end is one of the easier ones, and most unixes don't mind...

I meant multiple `/`'s _in_ the path name...

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Re: viewing html emails in mutt

[Rémi Guyomarch]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 02:38:23PM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> Another newbie question - I've setup my .mailcap file to include
> 
> text/html; lynx %s

Lynx had several buffer overflow problems in the near past.
Some weeks ago, the FreeBSD port of lynx had been marked FORBIDDEN because :

lynx-2.8.2rel.1 is forbidden: Riddled with buffer overflows   
exploitable by a malicious server to execute code as the local user..

See the advisory FreeBSD-SA-00:08.lynx somewhere on www.freebsd.org

According to the fbsd-ports mailing-list, these buffer overflows were fixed
in lynx-2.8.3.dev23. So check your version :)

Re: macro to delete all msgs

[cFischer]

On Tue-02.05.00-05:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I need a macro to exec the following commands :
> " tag all the messages in the current mailbox, and then delete the tagged messages". 

hah!  easy!  the commands typed interactively are:

  T.# capital 'T' lets you tag every message matching '.' (a
  dot), which _is_ every message.
  ; # semicolon: following command goes for tagged messages
  d # 'd' deletes everything.  i tested it, but used undelete
  (clever me!)

a macro goes like this, then:

macro index  "T.^M;d" "CAUTION:  deletes all messages!"

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Re: setting envelope from how?

[cFischer]

On Tue-02.05.00-16:34, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> After getting a little more familar with how things are done in SUSE I
> tweaked the "correct" config files. Anyway, right now I'm just too lazy to
> throw away sendmail :)

and you shouldn't.  i tried them all, only to come back to trusty sendmail.
that is, i tried smail.  easy to configure and much leaner than sendmail.
well, it's about 1/3 _larger_ and the configuration gave me two days of
severe headache until i returned to trusty ol' sendmail...

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Re: setting envelope from how?

[cFischer]

On Tue-02.05.00-05:27, Claus Assmann wrote:
> Yeah, if you "fiddled with sendmail.cf"...
> It requires two lines in your .mc file:
> MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain')
> FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

how can you say such an ugly thing?  there were times when i had m4 and
sendmail, but none of the configuration files, because the entire sendmail
8.9 dist wouldn't fit on dis po' boys box.  yeah, and i "fiddled".  and
took to specifying the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" flags
to the venerable sendmail mta.  this specifies the envelope.  you should
make sure to be in the list of "trusted" loos..  pardon users defined by
the "CLlooser1 looser2..." class/macro in the .cf file.

another question:  is it true, that your userid is ca and procmail is
supposed to deliver into +mutt?

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pgp and mime application/*

[cFischer]

On Tue-02.05.00-07:30, Michael Elkins wrote:
> pgp key available from http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/elkins-pgp-key.asc

excuse me, sir.  exactly when does mutt look into ~/.mailcap to get, for
example, application/pgp-signature right?  how do the various *automatic*
and *mime* configuration variables interact?

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Re: mailboxes lists

[Rémi Guyomarch]

On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 12:48:29AM +0200, Stefan Bender wrote:
...
> you, to make it possible to move mails from /var/mail (or
> /var/spool/mail) to your home directory. Or does anyone know that
> procmail runs properly even without suid root?

rguyom@diabolic-cow ~ # cat .forward 
"|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #rguyom"

(with qmail I think it's not .forward but .qmail)

My procmail is setuid root and setgid mail, but I think the above should
work even with a procmail installed in ~/bin or whatever and not set?id at
all.

My 0.02 E

Re: setting envelope from how?

[Frank Derichsweiler]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 11:28:26AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> My problem: The envelope from is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I already tried to
> 
> set hostname = "innominate.de"
> 
> but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from mutt should use when
> talking to my local sendmail?
> 
> Transcript of session follows.
> 

As already posted, Mutt uses a local command to send mail. The command
is set via the sendmail var in your muttrc.

E.g.

set sendmail="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -ffoo@bar "

will set the envelope sender to foo@bar.
(Using qmail ;-))

Sendmail should have the same -f option.

HTH
Frank

Re: setting envelope from how?

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 02:20:44AM +0200, cFischer wrote:
 
> and you shouldn't.  i tried them all, only to come back to trusty sendmail.

You didn't try postfix.

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setting envelope from how?

[Ralf Hildebrandt]

My problem: The envelope from is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I already tried to

set hostname = "innominate.de"

but to no avail. How can I specify which envelope from mutt should use when
talking to my local sendmail?

Transcript of session follows.

 Out: 220 stahlw06.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de ESMTP Postfix
 In:  EHLO gulliver.bln.innominate.de
 Out: 250-stahlw06.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de
 Out: 250-PIPELINING
 Out: 250-SIZE 1024
 Out: 250-ETRN
 Out: 250 8BITMIME
 In:  MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=259
 Out: 250 Ok
 In:  RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Out: 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sender address rejected: Domain not
 found
 In:  RSET
 Out: 250 Ok
 In:  QUIT
 Out: 221 Bye

No message was collected successfully.

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Re: lockfile problem since 1.1.3

[Bernd Eggink]

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 10:15:42AM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> On Tuesday, 02 May 2000 at 13:10, Bernd Eggink wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > in all version since 1.1.3 (up to 1.1.12) I get these messages when mutt
> > starts and ends:
> > 
> >   Error creating
> >   /var/spool/mail/rz2a022.lock.956910752.49678.rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de:
> >   Permission denied
> > 
> > where rz2a022 is my imap account, rzaixsrv2 the imap server. The imap
> > related entries in my .muttrc are
> > 
> > set spoolfile={rzaixsrv2}/var/spool/mail/rz2a022
> > set imap_user="rz2a022"
> > 
> > Apart from the message, mutt seems to work properly, but the message
> > sucks, and I didn't get it in 1.1.2. Any ideas what to do? 
> 
> Your IMAP server is somewhat misconfigured. You have two options:
> 
> 1. fix your server - probably it's running as uid rz2a022 and the
> spool directory isn't world writable. Getting UW to run setgid mail is
> possible, but a hassle.
> 
> 2. make mutt ignore the error messages, as 1.1.2 used to do:
>unset $imap_servernoise

Thanks. The problem apparently resulted from a discrepancy between the
local /var/spool/mail directory (which was world writeable) and the imap
server's directory (which isn't). Unfortunately 'configure' only tests
the local one. After performing a 'chmod o-w' on the local
/var/spool/mail and reinstalling mutt, everything works fine again.

Regards,
Bernd

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