Re: [Mjpeg-users] mpeg2enc: any hope of further development?

2008-11-30 Thread Steven M. Schultz

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, Andrew Stevens wrote:

Andrew - you're alive! :)

Welcome back!

> - no longer doing any kind of analog video capture and so having zero use for 

I know that on at least a couple occasions I have mentioned that you
do not need an analog capture device.  Simply rip a section from
one of your DVDs and re-encode it.   Motion scenes and lower values
of -q seem to tickle the bug (but the problem can appear almost any
time).

You might check with Bernhard Praschinger - I send him a DVD of test
data to give to you (if he happened to drive and visit you).

> - I got rather depressed about the embarrassing state of the "grown" C++ code 
> compared with my professional efforts.

It's not as ugly as some.  But there's still time to redeem yourself
and rewrite it into C so that the next fellow can understand it :) :)

> > this version still gives the me most satisfying results (compared
> > to other tools) in dv -> dvd conversion, it would *really* be

It _can_ do a sericeable job BUT (and this is the huge caveat) you
can't _trust_ mpeg2enc - you never know when the artifacting/bugs
will show up!  

> - I want to reach some kind of closure on mpeg2enc to leave it in a reasonable
> state.

Actually I'd hope you would resurrect and do battle with, and hopefully
drive a stake thru the hear of, the "-q" option.  Make that thing
go away!  Please!  Specify a rate, a minimum and a maximum.  THe 
encoder should automatically, I think, adapt the quantization (-q)
with NO help from the user except for the desired average bitrate and
perhaps an absolute "do not exceed" value.

> Here's a deal.  If you can supply me with snippets of video where stuff is 
> going wrong I'll see if I can get the half-finished stuff in mpeg2enc working 

I might have the snippet of DV data I sent to Bernhard - I'll check
to see if I have it, otherwise you might talk to him

THe problem, as I recall, was quite ugly when it happened - usually
when playing with "-q"  - lower values seemed to make things worse.

Cheers,
Steven Schultz


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Re: [Mjpeg-users] mpeg2enc: any hope of further development?

2008-11-30 Thread Steven M. Schultz

On Sun, 30 Nov 2008, Steven M. Schultz wrote:

First posting in eons and I make a typo...

>   Actually I'd hope you would resurrect and do battle with, and hopefully
>   drive a stake thru the hear of, the "-q" option.  Make that thing

drive a stake thru the heart of, ...

In essence be a vampire slayer and get rid of -q ;)

Steven Schultz


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Re: [Mjpeg-users] mpeg2enc: any hope of further development?

2008-11-30 Thread Christian Ebert
Hi Andrew,

* Andrew Stevens on Saturday, November 29, 2008 at 19:07:12 +0100
> mpeg2enc author here!

Ah! Great to hear from you!

>> Unfortunately I am unable to contribute constructively but I just
>> wanted to send a periodic encouragement to take off with mpeg2enc
>> where it was left in 2007-02-20 (last working version). 
> 
> Thanks for the encouragement.  Basically mpeg2enc development has kind of 
> stalled due to ... (in no particular order)
> 
> -  working for a start-up
> - the birth of my first child
> - getting older and richer and so being able to afford to go racing 
> Motorcycles
> - no longer doing any kind of analog video capture and so having zero use for 
> an mpeg-2 encoder myself and no handy source of bug-testing material.
> - I got rather depressed about the embarrassing state of the "grown" C++ code 
> compared with my professional efforts.

Looks like you are becoming more mature on every level ;-) Congrats!

>> While 
>> this version still gives the me most satisfying results (compared
>> to other tools) in dv -> dvd conversion, it would *really* be
>> nice to have something with the bugs that came after ironed out!
> 
> However... 
> 
> - the first realistic demo version of our tool is out the door
> - I got fast enough on my Motorbike that going faster requires excessive 
> willingness to crash myself and my Motorbike
> - my little son is now a bit bigger and the Christmas vacation is coming
> - I want to reach some kind of closure on mpeg2enc to leave it in a 
> reasonable 
> state.

Sounds all great to me, especially the last point ;-)

> Here's a deal.  If you can supply me with snippets of video where stuff is 
> going wrong I'll see if I can get the half-finished stuff in mpeg2enc working 
> properly.

I'll have some testing material next week; and unless your recent
commit already solved all problems, you may be sure that I
continue nagging you.

Thank you very very much for coming back on this.

> Drop me an email if you're interested...

I surely am.

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