Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: help needed with laptop hdd]
- Original Message - From: Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:02 am Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: help needed with laptop hdd] To: Marcus Glocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: misc@openbsd.org > On 2007/09/13 15:25, Marcus Glocker wrote: > > My X40 disk also died two month ago. All attempts to find that > somehow> special 1.8" NONE-ZIF connector disk failed so far. > > > > I saw that Henning has the same problem and already asked on > misc@ for > > such a disk. If somebody has another of those for me, it would > be most > > helpfull. Using the X40 with an attached USB disk is not that > portable,> and the X40 is a good hacking toy for Cardbus (wireless > ;) devices ... > > a 2.5" HD carrier is available for the X4 Ultrabase. it's not ideal > (it adds a lot of weight and doubles the thickness) but it beats > USB... > if anyone comes across a batch of these drives (1.8" 44-pin > travelstar;they have been discontinued), pipe up, I am sure there > are some other > developers with these machines that might want to pick up a spare. > Hi, The smaller 20gb version of this, HTC424020F7AT00 is less dense and very inexpensive. Would that suffice? http://www.driveguys.com/Modern/itemdesc.asp?CartId=&ic=HTC424020F7AT00&tpc= http://www.interproshop.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=12289&czuid=1149035313677 http://www.basoncomputer.com/item.aspx?id=HI08K1529
Re: help needed with laptop hdd
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Weisgerber) Date: Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:57 am Subject: Re: help needed with laptop hdd To: misc@openbsd.org > Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just learned that the disk in the X40 is kind of special. It is > a 1.8" > > hard disk that does NOT use the ZIF connector (these are somewhat > common) > > but the same 44pin connector 2.5" disks use. 1.8" disks with that > > connector have only ever been made by Hitachi. > > Hmm. I've been entertaining thoughts of putting a flash drive into > my X40, as soon as these become more readily available, but I suppose > the special connector will render this difficult as well. :-( > > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber > [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'd be unhappy with the write cycle longevity of a flash drive for regular use anyway. Flash and super dense mag drives seem fine for use if write/erase only happens occasionally (i.e. embedded/mp3 etc...) The next step: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferroelectric_RAM
Re: help needed with laptop hdd
- Original Message - From: Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:29 pm Subject: Re: help needed with laptop hdd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: misc@openbsd.org > On 2007/09/20 10:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You'd be unhappy with the write cycle longevity of a flash drive > for > > regular use anyway. > > This depends very much on what your regular use is. They're a lot > tougher than "common knowledge" would have you believe. > >From the flash that I've tested for a data logging project, the best I've seen was from M-Systems - now sandisk. http://www.sandisk.com/OEM/ProductCatalog(1335)-SSD_formerly_FFD_UATA_25.aspx Still not with write/erase longevity as a decent spinning drive. Now they(sandisk) have a new line for use in laptops: http://www.sandisk.com/OEM/ProductCatalog(1320)-SanDisk_SSD_UATA_5000_18.aspx http://www.sandisk.com/OEM/ProductCatalog(1321)-SanDisk_SSD_SATA_5000_25.aspx Seemingly difficult to find though.
Re: help needed with laptop hdd
- Original Message - From: RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:50 pm Subject: Re: help needed with laptop hdd To: "misc@openbsd.org" > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:26:14 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >You'd be unhappy with the write cycle longevity of a flash drive > for > >regular use anyway. Flash and super dense mag drives seem fine > for use > >if write/erase only happens occasionally (i.e. embedded/mp3 etc...) > > > >The next step: > > The next step is to find some justification for your statement about > longevity. > > I remember early nand tech that wore out in a few days or maybe hours. > > That isn't now. I have attempted to wear out an Apacer CF 512MB by > doing a regular install of OpenBSD (no memfs, no mount ro) and then > turning the most verbose logging possible for spamd with daily > rotations. I then used it to run a firewall in front of a moderately > busy mailserver that had hundreds of spamtrap addresses. > > After fourteen months I gave up and put the spamd stuff on the > mailserver (simply to keep all the email process on one box) at the > next OS update. > > I have about a dozen client sites for one company that store all their > inventory data on CF at their branch firewalls on a similar CF. > Updatesdaily from head office overwrite the data. > No problems. > > I saw some info recently that showed that flash technology is now less > likely to fail than a spinny disk. Wish I'd kept a link to it > because I > don't really have time to Google it ATM. > > Price is the killer on the basis of storage size but it is heading > downfast. We already have one flash drive in a desktop PC and it > is slick. > > For laptops the ruggedness is tops. > > R/ > > From the land "down under": Australia. > Do we look from up over? > I guess they are great and I'm an idiot, nuff said...
