Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-16 Thread armpit
Marco Peereboom wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 05:47:08PM +0100, - Tethys wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Henning Brauer 
>> wrote:
>>
 Sounds like building from source is necessary to me.
>>> boo hoo. run one machine somewhere and make release. done.
>> And that attitude is why OpenBSD will never be more than a hobby OS. Sigh.

OpenBSD is built by the developers for the developers. The fact that you
and I get to use it is a nice side effect of the developers releasing
the OS as free software. Instead of whining, you should be greatfull.

> 
> Correction, a professional OS that requires its users to be
> professionals.  Not a bunch of whining windows update people that have
> to call "IT" to launch excel.  In case you hadn't noticed we are old
> school UNIX users that don't mind fixing whatever problem is at hand.
> Including writing code or fixing a bug.  This is why in the olden days
> your IT department was worth something and wasn't a bunch of monkeys
> reading a script.
> 
> It is exactly your attitude that has ruined the computer industry.
> 

Well said.

I enjoy the fact that I can install an OpenBSD machine, setup the
relevant services for that machines purpose and not have to sit and push
buttons and turn knobs all day. The machine does its job without the
need for me to hold its hand.



Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-23 Thread armpit
neal hogan wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 01:04:07AM +0200, jean-francois wrote:
>> Le jeudi 17 septembre 2009 C  08:56 +1000, armpit a C)crit :
>>> Marco Peereboom wrote:
>>> [...] OpenBSD is built by the developers for the developers. [...]
>> To me it sound like OpenBSD is built by the developpers for the
>> developpers, and also the rest of the world who need it for whatever
>> purpose one can imagine.
> 
> Soo . . . close! Unless you can rationalize why the part after the
> comma = the part before it.
> 
> 
> 
I will re-iterate my original statement.

OpenBSD is created by the developers for the developers and any use that
the rest of us get from the OS is a nice side effect of their generosity
in releasing it as a completely free and unencumbered system, nothing
more nothing less. No two ways about it. No need for rationalizing, only
thing needed is for all 'non-developers' and 'non-contributors' who use
it to be thankful and not be questioning of those that create this
wonderful operating system.