Re: Minimum RAM for Chrome
On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 14:19:04 +
tetrahe...@danwin1210.me wrote:
> Am I running into system memory limits ("minimum 8GB RAM to surf the
> web"? what is the world coming to?) or is another issue likely the
> cause?
I wouldn't rule that possibility out… I manage with Firefox on Linux
with a 2GB netbook, but only just: some websites just eat RAM like it's
going out of fashion. Playing videos definitely makes the problem
worse. Comparatively "simple" websites work okay but anything that's
real-time: all bets are off!
I haven't tried OpenBSD on the same machine, but I suspect the problem
isn't limited to browser or OS. Your mileage will definitely depend on
the sort of website you frequently like to visit.
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Re: Minimum RAM for Chrome
On 2021-08-07, Stuart Longland wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 14:19:04 +
> tetrahe...@danwin1210.me wrote:
>
>> Am I running into system memory limits ("minimum 8GB RAM to surf the
>> web"? what is the world coming to?) or is another issue likely the
>> cause?
>
> I wouldn't rule that possibility out… I manage with Firefox on Linux
> with a 2GB netbook, but only just: some websites just eat RAM like it's
> going out of fashion. Playing videos definitely makes the problem
> worse. Comparatively "simple" websites work okay but anything that's
> real-time: all bets are off!
>
> I haven't tried OpenBSD on the same machine, but I suspect the problem
> isn't limited to browser or OS. Your mileage will definitely depend on
> the sort of website you frequently like to visit.
OpenBSD doesn't do brilliantly with swapping.
Re: Crash when unplugging a UPS USB connection
On 8/6/2021 5:46 PM, Anindya Mukherjee wrote: > I apologise for not following up. I relocated my UPS and a Pi is acting as the > NUT server now, running several devices. As a result I am unable to easily > connect my main OpenBSD desktop to test. However I am setting up another > machine > and will have a chance to test the fix soon. > > I am still running upsmon on my desktop which is working fine but this is just > the net client. > > Thanks to everyone for the rapid fix, and in particular sthen@ for his prompt > and helpful responses. > I was able to run a test this morning. The fix works. dmesg is below. Note that I plugged in and unplugged the USB comm cable a couple of times. To reproduce the initial issue, and to test the fix, I did the following: 1) fresh install of OpenBSD current (no ports need be installed) 2) reboot after the install 3) plug in the USB comm cable 4) unplug the USB comm cable Thank you to those who worked to fix this. == OpenBSD 6.9-current (RAMDISK_CD) #159: Sat Aug 7 05:11:58 MDT 2021 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/RAMDISK_CD real mem = 4129800192 (3938MB) avail mem = 4000620544 (3815MB) random: good seed from bootblocks mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xe0010 (78 entries) bios0: vendor LENOVO version "6IET75WW (1.35 )" date 02/01/2011 bios0: LENOVO 2522DU5 acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 4.0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT APIC MCFG HPET ASF! SLIC BOOT SSDT TCPA SSDT SSDT SSDT acpiec0 at acpi0 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 560 @ 2.67GHz, 2926.51 MHz, 06-25-05 cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,AES,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,SENSOR,ARAT,MELTDOWN cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.1, IBE cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins, remapped acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEG_) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP1) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP2) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP3) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 5 (EXP4) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 13 (EXP5) "PNP0C0D" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C0E" at acpi0 not configured acpipci0 at acpi0 UNCR acpipci1 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x 0x0011 0x0001 acpicmos0 at acpi0 "PNP0C0A" at acpi0 not configured "ACPI0003" at acpi0 not configured "IBM0068" at acpi0 not configured "*pnp0c14" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured acpicpu at acpi0 not configured acpipwrres at acpi0 not configured acpitz at acpi0 not configured cpu0: using IvyBridge MDS workaround pci0 at mainbus0 bus 255 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel QuickPath" rev 0x02 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 "Intel QuickPath" rev 0x02 pchb2 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel QPI Link" rev 0x02 pchb3 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 "Intel QPI Physical" rev 0x02 pchb4 at pci0 dev 2 function 2 "Intel Reserved" rev 0x02 pchb5 at pci0 dev 2 function 3 "Intel Reserved" rev 0x02 pci1 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb6 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Core Host" rev 0x02 ppb0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 "Intel 3400 PCIE" rev 0x02: msi pci2 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 vendor "NVIDIA", unknown product 0x0a6c rev 0xa2 vga1: aperture needed wsdisplay1 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) vendor "NVIDIA", unknown product 0x0be3 (class multimedia subclass hdaudio, rev 0xa1) at pci2 dev 0 function 1 not configured "Intel 3400 MEI" rev 0x06 at pci1 dev 22 function 0 not configured em0 at pci1 dev 25 function 0 "Intel 82577LM" rev 0x06: msi, address f0:de:f1:50:6e:0a ehci0 at pci1 dev 26 function 0 "Intel 3400 USB" rev 0x06: apic 1 int 23 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 "Intel 3400 HD Audio" rev 0x06 at pci1 dev 27 function 0 not configured ppb1 at pci1 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 3400 PCIE" rev 0x06: msi pci3 at ppb1 bus 2 ppb2 at pci1 dev 28 function 1 "Intel 3400 PCIE" rev 0x06: msi pci4 at ppb2 bus 3 iwn0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200" rev 0x35: msi, MIMO 2T2R, MoW, address 18:3d:a2:2d:55:28 ppb3 at pci1 dev 28 function 3 "Intel 3400 PCIE" rev 0x06: msi pci5 at ppb3 bus 5 ppb4 at pci1 dev 28 function 4 "Intel 3400 PCIE" rev 0x06: msi pci6 at ppb4 bus 13 sdhc0 at pci6 dev 0 function 0 "Ricoh 5U822 SD/MMC" rev 0x01: apic 1 int 16 sdhc0: SDHC 1.0, 50 MHz base clock sdmmc0 at sdhc0: 4-bit, sd high-speed, mmc high-speed "Ricoh 5U230 Memory Stick" rev 0x01 at pci6 dev 0 function 1 not configured "Ricoh 5U832 Firewire" rev 0x01 at pci6 dev 0 function 3 not configured ehci1 at pci1 dev
System freezes while playing game after sysupgrade.
After sysupgrading from -stable to -current, openmw/morrowind crashes while loading, and the system freezes. The game's loading screen appears for a while and then the system freezes, I cannot alt-tab my window manager to focus another window. I cannot Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X11. I cannot Ctrl+Alt+F1 to change to console. I cannot even press the power button of my laptop to shut down normally. (I can still hold the power button for 5 secs to force hardware shut down). I have no idea what's happening. The game shows nothing (the screen only freezes on the loading screen). The loading screen music keeps playing for a while and I can move the mouse for a while (but I cannot click on anything nor focus another window) until everything freeze. dmesg: OpenBSD 6.9-current (GENERIC.MP) #169: Fri Aug 6 05:32:04 MDT 2021 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 8384462848 (7996MB) avail mem = 8114397184 (7738MB) random: good seed from bootblocks mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xdae9c000 (68 entries) bios0: vendor LENOVO version "G1ETB4WW (2.74 )" date 09/25/2017 bios0: LENOVO 23501M2 acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 5.0 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SLIC TCPA SSDT SSDT SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ECDT FPDT ASF! UEFI UEFI POAT SSDT SSDT DMAR UEFI DBG2 acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S4) SLPB(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP3(S4) XHCI(S3) EHC1(S3) EHC2(S3) HDEF(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2594.56 MHz, 06-3a-09 cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,MD_CLEAR,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,L1DF,SSBD,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,MELTDOWN cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.1.1.2, IBE cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2594.13 MHz, 06-3a-09 cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,MD_CLEAR,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,L1DF,SSBD,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,MELTDOWN cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu1: smt 1, core 0, package 0 cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2594.13 MHz, 06-3a-09 cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,MD_CLEAR,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,L1DF,SSBD,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,MELTDOWN cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu2: smt 0, core 1, package 0 cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2594.13 MHz, 06-3a-09 cpu3: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS,MD_CLEAR,IBRS,IBPB,STIBP,L1DF,SSBD,SENSOR,ARAT,XSAVEOPT,MELTDOWN cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu3: smt 1, core 1, package 0 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpimcfg0 at acpi0 acpimcfg0: addr 0xf800, bus 0-63 acpiec0 at acpi0 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG_) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP1) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP2) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP3) acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_ acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x 0x0011 0x0001 acpicmos0 at acpi0 tpm0 at acpi0 TPM_ addr 0xfed4/0x5000, device 0x104a rev 0x4e acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "45N1173" serial 31492 type LION oem "SANYO" acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online "LEN0078" at acpi0 not configured acpithinkpad0 at acpi0: version 1.0 "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2(350@80 mwait.1@0x20), C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2(350@80 mwait.1@0x20), C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS acpicpu2 at acpi0: C2(350@80 mwait.1@0x20), C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS acpicpu
Re: Minimum RAM for Chrome
On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 01:15:52PM -, Stuart Henderson wrote:
Am I running into system memory limits ("minimum 8GB RAM to surf the
web"? what is the world coming to?) or is another issue likely the
cause?
I wouldn't rule that possibility out… I manage with Firefox on Linux
with a 2GB netbook, but only just: some websites just eat RAM like it's
going out of fashion. Playing videos definitely makes the problem
worse. Comparatively "simple" websites work okay but anything that's
real-time: all bets are off!
I haven't tried OpenBSD on the same machine, but I suspect the problem
isn't limited to browser or OS. Your mileage will definitely depend on
the sort of website you frequently like to visit.
OpenBSD doesn't do brilliantly with swapping.
Thanks. That's all rather depressing...
