Re: segmentation fault during package build
Hi, Philip Guenther wrote: then reproduce the problem in the bzip2 port to get a fresh core file with that binary, then finally run gdb against the_uninstalled_ binary (/usr/src/bin/ln/obj/ln) but with the new core file and see what the backtrace shows. before doing that, I did this: make clean=depends (inside libxml, which has bzip as a dependency). Make install again. Now it built bzip2 but ln crashes while installing mapages of tcl. I reissue make install now, it crashes again in tcl. That is, starting from a clean port build may shift the problem, but once it is there, I can hit again and again in the same place. I will try if it survives a reboot, that is if it is file-system dependent "only". Once I know it is, I can then check different "ln" binaries by leaving it in the same state and not making clean. Riccardo
Re: segmentation fault during package build
Hi Tobias, what you write is frightening :) Tobias Ulmer wrote: On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 01:18:18AM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Tobias Ulmer wrote: full dmesg please Here it is: OpenBSD 5.6 (GENERIC) #94: Wed Aug 13 13:54:32 GMT 2014 m...@credogne.gentiane.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc/compile/GENERIC real mem = 166998016 (159MB) avail mem = 159440896 (152MB) mainbus0 at root: SUNW,SPARCstation-20 cpu0 at mainbus0: TMS390Z50 v0 or TMS390Z55 @ 50 MHz, on-chip FPU cpu0: physical 20K instruction (64 b/l), 16K data (32 b/l) cache enabled This CPU module (Voyager iirc) has issues. It's stable most of the time, but small programs (like chmod, cat, touch, ...) crash in random places. Voyager? I don't know, checking: http://mbus.sunhelp.org/modules/index.htm I would identify it as SM50, the latter revision, with the large heatsink, not the round one. I suppose you mean by unstable under OpenBSD? It was very stable under solaris 2.5. Would it crash the program always in the same place? It is the first time I run OpenBSD on this machine, converting it from Solaris. It have a dual-HyperSparc module from Ross, but during OpenBSD install it apparently failed, becoming unreliable. I hope it is just a coincidence of the age and that OpenBSD doesn't "fry" modules :) After a while it is up I get back into OBP and at reboot I get a memory failure. I suppose the cache controller or the cache went bad. I still have a SM40 I think, for emergency. I will try that and see, after being certain that I can reproduce these error from reboot to reboot. Once I get the crash I can type "make install" and reproduce it in the same place, but a make clean will have it work and have crash ln in another package. Riccardo
DNS: how to verify glue NS records?
Hello. I would like to resolve this problem: - I have a child DNS zone served by my ISP slave name server; - the parent zone is served by my ISP master name server; - the question is - how and with what tools (dig, host, nslookup, or maybe C or Perl libs) can I verify the NS glue records in the parent zone of my ISP (zone transfers are denied)? My child zone is 0-15.66.233.212.in-addr.arpa. I tried "dig -4 +multiline +showsearch +trace 0-15.66.233.212.in-addr.arpa ns" but it was not possible to make any conclusions about NS glue records from the dig output. I found some tools in the Internet (for example http://www.intodns.com/0-15.66.233.212.in-addr.arpa, see "Missing nameservers reported by parent") but these are inconvinient, I would like to use native OS tools (or tools from ports). Please give me some good advise. -- Alexei Malinin
Re: 5.6 arrived
Arrived yesterday to me in Brazil, Rio... 2014-10-30 22:01 GMT-02:00 Fish Kungfu : > 5.6 CD's arrived today in Greenville, South Carolina! > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Carlin Bingham wrote: > > > On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, at 10:32 AM, Richard Toohey wrote: > > > On 10/30/14 07:26, Zé Loff wrote: > > > > Sighted on my mailbox today, in Lisbon, Portugal. > > > Arrived today in Tauranga, New Zealand. > > > > > > > Arrived today in the other half of New Zealand (Chistchurch). > > > > > > -- > > Carlin
[OT(?)] Offset2lib: bypassing full ASLR on 64bit Linux
Nice end-of-the-week read: http://cybersecurity.upv.es/attacks/offset2lib/offset2lib.html Luckily I use OpenBSD ;) CIAO, David -- "If you try a few times and give up, you'll never get there. But if you keep at it... There's a lot of problems in the world which can really be solved by applying two or three times the persistence that other people will." -- Stewart Nelson
Re: missing packages for SPARC
Hi, Peter Hessler wrote: On 2014 Dec 04 (Thu) at 07:11:48 + (+), John Long wrote: :How much time is necessary to build packages during and for a release? How :much time for snapshots? And how often does this need to be done? I'm trying :to get an idea how much uptime you would need if somebody who is able to :take this on doesn't have a suitable box to build on. 32bit sparc packages take 3-5 weeks on a cluster of 5 machines, depending on how many crashes happen. by crash, do you mean hardware problems, operating system reliability (like the one I am possibly experiencing) or userland problems? Riccardo PS: I am in a similar position as John. I cannot run my machines 24/7 because of noise, but they could contirbute building. ALthough however, being set back from dual-Ross 72Mhz with cache, to a single SM50 50Mhz no cache... is a hard hit, and if even that is unsuitable...
Re: missing packages for SPARC
Hi, Florenz Kley wrote: On Dec 3, 2014, at 21:01, patrick keshishian wrote: how do you guys deal with disk space with sparc machines? NFS? with a hacksaw :-) http://www.well.com/~fl/frankendisk/ single-ended SCSI disks work quite well in the pizza box design, but they run hotter than the old ones. One disk is not a problem, for two I wired up a little additional fan later That's a good idea. My SS20 which has 2 HDDs, CD and floppy, has a fan in between, it looks it is wired properly and has an attachment, so it looks "original" for certain hotter configurations. Riccardo
OpenBSD 5.6 problem with Firefox,Chrome when playing flash Videos
Hello i have installed OpenBSD 5.6 but when i watch with Firefox or Chrome youtube or vimeo it is so slow and play not fluently. Also i have CPU usage about 90% and more only when i downloaded it with youtube-dl and watched it with mplayer i have so 14 till 20%. I have also installed the gstreamer-plugin1 libav so i hope you answer me about that thank you Tasos Tsolakidis OpenBSD 5.6 (GENERIC) #310: Fri Aug 8 00:14:24 MDT 2014 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 17041059840 (16251MB) avail mem = 16578691072 (15810MB) mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xdae9c000 (65 entries) bios0: vendor LENOVO version "83ET76WW (1.46 )" date 07/05/2013 bios0: LENOVO 4180MBU acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SLIC SSDT SSDT SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ECDT ASF! TCPA SSDT SSDT UEFI UEFI UEFI acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP4(S4) EHC1(S3) EHC2(S3) HDEF(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2540M CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2591.99 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured cpu at mainbus0: not configured ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf800, bus 0-63 acpiec0 at acpi0 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG_) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP1) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP2) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 5 (EXP4) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 13 (EXP5) acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS, resource for EHC1, EHC2 acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 98 degC acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_ acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "42T4791" serial 18531 type LION oem "SANYO" acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpithinkpad0 at acpi0 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2591 MHz: speeds: 2601, 2600, 2400, 2200, 2000, 1800, 1600, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Core 2G Host" rev 0x09 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 3000" rev 0x09 intagp at vga1 not configured inteldrm0 at vga1 drm0 at inteldrm0 drm: Memory usable by graphics device = 2048M inteldrm0: 1600x900 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation) "Intel 6 Series MEI" rev 0x04 at pci0 dev 22 function 0 not configured puc0 at pci0 dev 22 function 3 "Intel 6 Series KT" rev 0x04: ports: 1 com com4 at puc0 port 0 apic 2 int 19: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com4: probed fifo depth: 0 bytes em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 "Intel 82579LM" rev 0x04: msi, address 00:21:cc:49:fc:72 ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 "Intel 6 Series USB" rev 0x04: apic 2 int 16 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 6 Series HD Audio" rev 0x04: msi azalia0: codecs: Conexant/0x506e, Conexant/0x2c06, Intel/0x2805, using Conexant/0x506e audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 6 Series PCIE" rev 0xb4: msi pci1 at ppb0 bus 2 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 "Intel 6 Series PCIE" rev 0xb4: msi pci2 at ppb1 bus 3 iwn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205" rev 0x34: msi, MIMO 2T2R, MoW, address a0:88:b4:06:ab:78 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 "Intel 6 Series PCIE" rev 0xb4: msi pci3 at ppb2 bus 5 ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 "Intel 6 Series PCIE" rev 0xb4: msi pci4 at ppb3 bus 13 sdhc0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "Ricoh 5U823 SD/MMC" rev 0x05: apic 2 int 16 sdmmc0 at sdhc0 ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 6 Series USB" rev 0x04: apic 2 int 23 usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1 at usb1 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel QM67 LPC" rev 0x04 ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 6 Series AHCI" rev 0x04: msi, AHCI 1.3 scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI3 0/direct fixed naa.5000cca645db645d sd0: 305245MB, 512 bytes/sector, 625142448 sectors cd0 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: ATAPI 5/cdrom removable ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 6 Series SMBus" rev 0x04: apic 2 int 18 iic0 at ichiic0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600 SO-DIMM spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600 SO-DIMM isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot
Beep low battery
Hello, On my laptop I have a beep every 2 seconds when the battery is low. How to disable it ? It's not a BIOS setting. Thanks. dmesg: OpenBSD 5.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #650: Fri Dec 5 09:20:49 MST 2014 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 6295150592 (6003MB) avail mem = 6123724800 (5840MB) mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xeb300 (44 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "4.6.5" date 08/02/2013 bios0: CLEVO CO. W54xEU acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT MCFG SSDT HPET SSDT SSDT SSDT ASF! acpi0: wakeup devices P0P1(S4) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) USB4(S3) USB5(S3) USB6(S3) USB7(S3) PXSX(S5) RP01(S 4) PXSX(S5) RP03(S4) PXSX(S5) RP04(S4) JMC2(S4) JMC3(S4) [...] acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1000M @ 1.80GHz, 1796.17 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE 2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,PO PCNT,DEADLINE,XSAVE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1000M @ 1.80GHz, 1795.93 MHz cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE 2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,PO PCNT,DEADLINE,XSAVE,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,ITSC,FSGSBASE,SMEP,ERMS cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf800, bus 0-63 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (RP01) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (RP03) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (RP04) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (RP05) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (RP06) acpiec0 at acpi0 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 120 degC acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB acpibtn2 at acpi0: LID0 acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit offline acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "BAT" serial 0001 type LION oem "NOTEBOOK" acpidock0 at acpi0: DOCK not docked (0) acpivideo0 at acpi0: GFX0 acpivout0 at acpivideo0: LCD0 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1796 MHz: speeds: 1800, 1700, 1600, 1500, 1400, 1300, 1200 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Core 3G Host" rev 0x09 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel HD Graphics 2500" rev 0x09 intagp at vga1 not configured inteldrm0 at vga1 drm0 at inteldrm0 drm: Memory usable by graphics device = 2048M inteldrm0: 1366x768 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation) xhci0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "Intel 7 Series xHCI" rev 0x04: msi usb0 at xhci0: USB revision 3.0 uhub0 at usb0 "Intel xHCI root hub" rev 3.00/1.00 addr 1 "Intel 7 Series MEI" rev 0x04 at pci0 dev 22 function 0 not configured ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 "Intel 7 Series USB" rev 0x04: apic 2 int 16 usb1 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub1 at usb1 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 7 Series HD Audio" rev 0x04: msi azalia0: codecs: VIA/0x8446, Intel/0x2806, using VIA/0x8446 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 7 Series PCIE" rev 0xc4: msi pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 "Intel 7 Series PCIE" rev 0xc4: msi pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 athn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Atheros AR9285" rev 0x01: apic 2 int 18 athn0: AR9285 rev 2 (1T1R), ROM rev 14, address e0:b9:a5:47:f2:0f ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 "Intel 7 Series PCIE" rev 0xc4: msi pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 "Realtek RTL8411 Card Reader" rev 0x01 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 not configured re0 at pci3 dev 0 function 2 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x0a: RTL8411 (0x4880), msi, address 00:90:f5:e8:73:c5 rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8169S/8110S PHY, rev. 5 ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 "Intel 7 Series PCIE" rev 0xc4: msi pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 7 Series USB" rev 0x04: apic 2 int 23 usb2 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0 uhub2 at usb2 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel HM77 LPC" rev 0x04 ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 7 Series AHCI" rev 0x04: msi, AHCI 1.3 scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: SCSI3 0/direct fixed naa.50004cf206da51c3 sd0: 152627MB, 512 bytes/sector, 312581808 sectors cd0 at scsibus1 targ 2 lun 0: ATAPI 5/cdrom removable sd1 at scsibus1 targ 4 lun 0: SCSI3 0/d
Re: segmentation fault during package build
On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 10:48:36AM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi Tobias, > > what you write is frightening :) > > Tobias Ulmer wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 01:18:18AM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > >>Tobias Ulmer wrote: > >>>full dmesg please > >>Here it is: > >>OpenBSD 5.6 (GENERIC) #94: Wed Aug 13 13:54:32 GMT 2014 > >>m...@credogne.gentiane.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc/compile/GENERIC > >>real mem = 166998016 (159MB) > >>avail mem = 159440896 (152MB) > >>mainbus0 at root: SUNW,SPARCstation-20 > >>cpu0 at mainbus0: TMS390Z50 v0 or TMS390Z55 @ 50 MHz, on-chip FPU > >>cpu0: physical 20K instruction (64 b/l), 16K data (32 b/l) cache enabled > >This CPU module (Voyager iirc) has issues. It's stable most of the time, > >but small programs (like chmod, cat, touch, ...) crash in random places. > Voyager? I don't know, checking: > http://mbus.sunhelp.org/modules/index.htm > > I would identify it as SM50, the latter revision, with the large heatsink, > not the round one. I just had a look, mine are 501-2708 > I suppose you mean by unstable under OpenBSD? It was very stable under > solaris 2.5. Yes, under OpenBSD. I don't know about other OS. > Would it crash the program always in the same place? No. > > It is the first time I run OpenBSD on this machine, converting it from > Solaris. It have a dual-HyperSparc module from Ross, but during OpenBSD > install it apparently failed, becoming unreliable. I hope it is just a > coincidence of the age and that OpenBSD doesn't "fry" modules :) After a > while it is up I get back into OBP and at reboot I get a memory failure. I > suppose the cache controller or the cache went bad. Cooling issue? My SS10/SS20 work fine with a HM150S-512 > > I still have a SM40 I think, for emergency. I will try that and see, after > being certain that I can reproduce these error from reboot to reboot. Once I > get the crash I can type "make install" and reproduce it in the same place, > but a make clean will have it work and have crash ln in another package. > > > Riccardo
Re: Apache2 - intermittent ssl_error_rx_record_too_long
On 12/4/2014 8:46 PM, John Merriam wrote: Hello. I am experiencing a strange problem with Apache 2.2.27p4 on OpenBSD 5.6-stable amd64. I am _intermittently_ getting this error: SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long) in Firefox 31.3.0esr (both Linux and Windows clients) when accessing my server via HTTPS. I am not seeing errors pop up in other browsers but I am seeing strange things in IE11 and Chromium where things seem to not always load over HTTPS. The Qualsys SSL Server Test website also reports errors accessing my server sometimes when I have run tests against it using their tool. What is very strange is that it is intermittent. Things seem to work then click a link or reload a page and the error pops up. *snip* I seem to have stopped the odd Apache behavior. Still not sure why it was a problem though. I was able to observe that Apache 2.2 was occasionally deciding it didn't want the use the appropriate protocol on the proper port. I was able to get it to occasionally speak HTTP on port 443. I was also able to occasionally get it to speak HTTPS on port 80. I found that extremely strange. At the start of this adventure I had the following pertinent configuration set: /etc/apache2/httpd2.conf Listen 80 ... ... Include /etc/apache2/extra/httpd-ssl.conf /etc/apache2/extra/httpd-ssl.conf - Listen 443 ... ... At the end, it looked like the following: /etc/apache2/httpd2.conf Listen 1.2.3.4:80 http Listen 1.2.3.5:80 http ... ... Include /etc/apache2/extra/httpd-ssl.conf /etc/apache2/extra/httpd-ssl.conf - Listen 1.2.3.4:443 https Listen 1.2.3.5:443 https ... ... I had to specify multiple Listen directives for each IP. I would guess that specifying the protocol in the Listen directives might not be necessary to fix this, but at this point, I'll leave it... The Apache docs don't seem to indicate that using Listen directives like that should have been necessary. Very strange to me. If I have the time, I'll see if I can figure out exactly what the issue was here. I think I might have an idea of what was going on and it may not really be a bug in Apache but if it's not then the behavior should be documented by them somewhere. Anyway, at this point, I don't think this has much to do with OpenBSD specifically. So, sorry for the noise but I figured I should send the resolution that I found in case someone else runs in to this. -- John Merriam