Re: uaudio - MAudio MobilePre USB

2010-07-13 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 21 14:04:01, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:29:15AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> > can people recommend a good uaudio card?
> 
> It depends on what you want to use it for.
> 
> I use a m-audio mobilepre for recording and listening music;
> it's class compliant does 16-bit stereo at 48kHz, and the
> sound is excellent. It has a stereo preamp and a phantom
> power, which is handy.

Thank you for the recommendation. I just bought me one,
and I am very satisfied with the sound.

I disabled the onboard azalia, so that the mobilepre
becomes audio0. Now the device reports as

uaudio0 at uhub1 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "M Audio MobilePre" rev 
1.10/1.03 addr 2
uaudio0: audio rev 1.00, 9 mixer controls
audio0 at uaudio0

Indeed, mixerctl says (using zero configuration,
that is, no /etc/mixerctl.conf):

inputs.line.mute=on
inputs.line=0,0
record.line.mute=off
record.line=205,205
inputs.dac.mute=off
inputs.dac=205,205
outputs.mix8-i7=0,0
outputs.spkr.mute=off
outputs.spkr=230,230

Can you please share your mixerctl output on the Mobile Pre?

I am pleasantly surprised that there are so few controls.
Last time I saw this was on an old Compaq laptop that has
just a mic in and line out, and has controls for just that,
plus the record/master volume. My current HP laptop doesn't
really have much more, but has 54 (azalia) controls.

BTW, why is it that the details of mixerctl controls
are described in azalia(4), which is just one of possible
audio interfaces? Surely non-azalia devices can be
mixerctl'ed too, and the control names mean the same,
right?

Also, why is the mixer named 'outputs.mix8-i7' (and not just 'outputs.mix8')?
What is the i7 'property' (in azalia terms)?

Thank you for your time

Jan


OpenBSD 4.7-current (GENERIC.MP) #43: Wed Jun 23 22:24:32 MDT 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
real mem  = 1055203328 (1006MB)
avail mem = 1012293632 (965MB)
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 03/08/10, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xe4410 (25 
entries)
bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version "MOPNV10J.86A.0175.2010.0308.0620" date 
03/08/2010
bios0: Intel Corporation D510MO
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG HPET SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices SLPB(S4) PS2M(S4) PS2K(S4) UAR1(S4) UAR2(S4) P32_(S4) 
ILAN(S4) PEX0(S4) PEX1(S4) PEX2(S4) PEX3(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) 
UHC4(S3) EHCI(S3) AZAL(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 GHz
cpu2: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 GHz
cpu3: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 5 (P32_)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 3 (PEX2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 4 (PEX3)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1, PSS
acpicpu2 at acpi0: C1, PSS
acpicpu3 at acpi0: C1, PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xda00! 0xce000/0x1000
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Pineview DMI" rev 0x02
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel Pineview Video" rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at inteldrm0
"Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 not configured
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x01: apic 8 int 17 
(ir

Re: uaudio

2010-07-13 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 21 14:04:01, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:29:15AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> > 
> > More generally, what is the status of uaudio(4)?
> 
> It works reliably, 24-bit encodings are not supported
> though; recently Jacob fixed various bugs, including a very
> annoying limitation of the block size.

To support the dynamic range of the bleeding artist inside,
I will buy me a 24bit (uaudio) card once 24bits is supported.
Can I ask politely about the current status?



Re: uaudio - MAudio MobilePre USB

2010-07-13 Thread Jan Stary
On Jul 13 08:55:03, Jan Stary wrote:
> On Feb 21 14:04:01, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:29:15AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> > > can people recommend a good uaudio card?
> > 
> > It depends on what you want to use it for.
> > 
> > I use a m-audio mobilepre for recording and listening music;
> > it's class compliant does 16-bit stereo at 48kHz, and the
> > sound is excellent. It has a stereo preamp and a phantom
> > power, which is handy.
> 
> Thank you for the recommendation. I just bought me one,
> and I am very satisfied with the sound.
> 
> I disabled the onboard azalia, so that the mobilepre
> becomes audio0. Now the device reports as
> 
> uaudio0 at uhub1 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "M Audio MobilePre" rev 
> 1.10/1.03 addr 2
> uaudio0: audio rev 1.00, 9 mixer controls
> audio0 at uaudio0
> 
> Can you please share your mixerctl output on the Mobile Pre?

I just found that the 1/8" stereo mic input (on the back)
doesn't work. Is there a way (in hardrware or software)
to specify which of the inputs should be used? Does
this happen automagically, in some hard-wired preference?
(Such as: XLR inputs if plugged; if not, 1/4" TRS inputs if plugged;
if not, the 1/8 stereo mic input)

Jan



Re: uaudio - MAudio MobilePre USB

2010-07-13 Thread Jan Stary
Replying to myself,

On Jul 13 09:14:42, Jan Stary wrote:
> On Jul 13 08:55:03, Jan Stary wrote:
> > On Feb 21 14:04:01, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:29:15AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> > > > can people recommend a good uaudio card?
> > > 
> > > It depends on what you want to use it for.
> > > 
> > > I use a m-audio mobilepre for recording and listening music;
> > > it's class compliant does 16-bit stereo at 48kHz, and the
> > > sound is excellent. It has a stereo preamp and a phantom
> > > power, which is handy.
> > 
> > Thank you for the recommendation. I just bought me one,
> > and I am very satisfied with the sound.
> > 
> > I disabled the onboard azalia, so that the mobilepre
> > becomes audio0. Now the device reports as
> > 
> > uaudio0 at uhub1 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "M Audio MobilePre" rev 
> > 1.10/1.03 addr 2
> > uaudio0: audio rev 1.00, 9 mixer controls
> > audio0 at uaudio0
> > 
> > Can you please share your mixerctl output on the Mobile Pre?
> 
> I just found that the 1/8" stereo mic input (on the back)
> doesn't work. Is there a way (in hardrware or software)
> to specify which of the inputs should be used? Does
> this happen automagically, in some hard-wired preference?
> (Such as: XLR inputs if plugged; if not, 1/4" TRS inputs if plugged;
> if not, the 1/8 stereo mic input)

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.faq&ID=2f7892c028390544ad28371e95e56658



Re: uaudio - MAudio MobilePre USB

2010-07-13 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 08:55:03AM +0200, Jan Stary wrote:
> On Feb 21 14:04:01, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:29:15AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> > > can people recommend a good uaudio card?
> > 
> > It depends on what you want to use it for.
> > 
> > I use a m-audio mobilepre for recording and listening music;
> > it's class compliant does 16-bit stereo at 48kHz, and the
> > sound is excellent. It has a stereo preamp and a phantom
> > power, which is handy.
> 
> Thank you for the recommendation. I just bought me one,
> and I am very satisfied with the sound.
> 
> I disabled the onboard azalia, so that the mobilepre
> becomes audio0. Now the device reports as
> 
> uaudio0 at uhub1 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "M Audio MobilePre" rev 
> 1.10/1.03 addr 2
> uaudio0: audio rev 1.00, 9 mixer controls
> audio0 at uaudio0
> 
> Indeed, mixerctl says (using zero configuration,
> that is, no /etc/mixerctl.conf):
> 
>   inputs.line.mute=on
>   inputs.line=0,0
>   record.line.mute=off
>   record.line=205,205
>   inputs.dac.mute=off
>   inputs.dac=205,205
>   outputs.mix8-i7=0,0
>   outputs.spkr.mute=off
>   outputs.spkr=230,230
> 
> Can you please share your mixerctl output on the Mobile Pre?
> 
> I am pleasantly surprised that there are so few controls.
> Last time I saw this was on an old Compaq laptop that has
> just a mic in and line out, and has controls for just that,
> plus the record/master volume.

non-ac97 codec envy(4) have even fewer.

> My current HP laptop doesn't
> really have much more, but has 54 (azalia) controls.

they are useful.  probably not to everyone, and probably not to
most people most of the time, but they can be *quite* useful.

> BTW, why is it that the details of mixerctl controls
> are described in azalia(4), which is just one of possible
> audio interfaces? Surely non-azalia devices can be
> mixerctl'ed too, and the control names mean the same,
> right?

for the most part, yes, the description of the controls in azalia(4)
apply to most devices.

why were mixer controls never really documented?  dunno, that's
a good question.  I suppose it's not really easy, for one thing,
and for another, they should "just make sense".  but for them to
"just make sense", you have to know a bit about how the mixer
interface works.

for example, someone was wondering how to make their laptop play
louder at the recent hackathon.  I said "you need to increase
inputs.dac", to which was replied, "But that's an input."  and
yes, by the name, it sure sounds like an input, like a line input
or a mic input ... but *generally speaking*, mixer control classes
(the first part of a mixer control name, before the first '.'), are
relative to ... the mixer.

a picture is worth a thousand words (or so I've heard):

class   |  widgets
+
inputs  |line   mic  dac  beep
|   | |  ||
|   +---+ |  | +--+
|   | |  | |
|  +-+
|  |the mixer|
|  +-+
| | |  |
| master
outputs | | |  |
|  line hp spkr
|

that's basically what a simple "single mixer" mixer device (essentially
everything pre-azalia) looks like.  there may also be a mixer (usually
a much simpler mixer) specifically for recording, and most controls
associated with it will be in the "record" class.

in azalia, you could have multiple mixers, so it gets really hard to
distinguish "input" vs "output", because you could have an output
from one mixer lead to the input of another mixer.

> Also, why is the mixer named 'outputs.mix8-i7' (and not just 'outputs.mix8')?
> What is the i7 'property' (in azalia terms)?

that mean it's "unit 8" of type "mixer" with source terminal "7".

terrible name, but it should be unique, and that's the most important
aspect.

-- 
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: uaudio

2010-07-13 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 09:10:35AM +0200, Jan Stary wrote:
> On Feb 21 14:04:01, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:29:15AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> > > 
> > > More generally, what is the status of uaudio(4)?
> > 
> > It works reliably, 24-bit encodings are not supported
> > though; recently Jacob fixed various bugs, including a very
> > annoying limitation of the block size.
> 
> To support the dynamic range of the bleeding artist inside,
> I will buy me a 24bit (uaudio) card once 24bits is supported.
> Can I ask politely about the current status?

ready to commit as far as I'm concerned, but it breaks audio(4)
binary compat ...

-- 
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: uaudio

2010-07-13 Thread peters
Jacob Meuser  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 09:10:35AM +0200, Jan Stary wrote:
> > On Feb 21 14:04:01, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:29:15AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > More generally, what is the status of uaudio(4)?
> > > 
> > > It works reliably, 24-bit encodings are not supported
> > > though; recently Jacob fixed various bugs, including a very
> > > annoying limitation of the block size.
> > 
> > To support the dynamic range of the bleeding artist inside,
> > I will buy me a 24bit (uaudio) card once 24bits is supported.
> > Can I ask politely about the current status?
>
> ready to commit as far as I'm concerned, but it breaks audio(4)
> binary compat ...

This is good news (the first part of your statement).
Which devices did you use for testing?



Carregue gratuitamente o telemovel!

2010-07-13 Thread Saldo Mobile
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Re: Has anyone any idea what this is...

2010-07-13 Thread Chris Bennett

On 07/12/10 20:44, Neal Hogan wrote:

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:47 PM, GSO  wrote:

I've a base install, with only firefox on top, and with broadband ADSL with
a vpn provider also,.

The cursor starts jumping around text boxes in firefox, within a box, but
also between boxes, typically from a password box to the login name box, so
by the time I've typed the password in I realise the cursor has in fact
jumped to the login name box, and I've have typed the password into the
clear text login name text box by accident.



weird (perhaps de weerd)


Also the typing speed may slow right down, so that text typed will not
appear for a second or so.


I'll bite on this one. I have had similar problems when I had a bad 
mouse. The intermittent signals really fudged everything up just like 
this. And this was for both a cabled mouse or a wireless mouse with a 
poor signal.




I gave this post a few hours before responding, to see if anyone would
bite. It is one of the more odd posts.

To the OP, if you are serious, rethink your post ;-)




Re: PTY allocation error

2010-07-13 Thread Chris Bennett

On 07/12/10 21:13, bofh wrote:

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Leonardo Carneiro - Veltrac
  wrote:

Well, them and anyone who knows how to half-assed run nmap or any other

numerous service fingerprinting utilities.


Even with sshd moved, when I finally decided to block port 22, my
bandwidth use dropped noticeably.


You made the point: bandwidth!


umm...  this is *INSIDE* the corporate network.  If there's anyone
portscanning my box, I want to know about it, especially since I have
the power to go smack hands.

And if there was someone capable of breaking ssh, that person would
find it no matter what port it's on.

He also did some other brilliant things such as set up a boot up
password, bios password and other assorted "security" things.  Guess
what happened?  He didn't tell me he did it, and he forgot the
passwords.  He got to spend half a day in the data center rebuilding
crap.




And the next week sweeping the floors?  :)



Re: request help with tip and serial port problem

2010-07-13 Thread fred
I restored the dialer group to /dev/tty01 and added the user to the 
dialer group as Nick suggested.  It still doesn't work but the response 
is different now.  I believe there is a cable problem now.  The cable 
works with a Sun Ultra 10 but not with the PC running openbsd.


Thank you for the help.

Nick Holland wrote:

On 07/12/10 19:32, patrick keshishian wrote:

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:58 PM, fred  wrote:

Hello,

A user needs to connect to external equipment using tip and a serial port.

I created an /etc/remote file:
snake:br=9600:dv=/dev/tty01:hf:nb:pa=none

The group associated with /dev/tty01 was changed from dialer to one that
includes the user:
$ls -l /dev/tty01
crw-rw 1 uucp wheel  8,  1 Feb  7  09:38 /dev/tty01

so, the user is already in wheel group. Revert above change. Enable
sudo (if not already done so) for users in group wheel.

$ sudo -u uucp tip snake

--patrick


uh...if all else fails, do it as root?  I think we'd prefer to avoid
that, unless really a root-like activity.

The "dialer" group is set up just for this purpose.

The problem with changing the ownership (or group) of a device file is
the next upgrade will overwrite your ownership change.  Ask me how I
know.  Better idea, don't -- just use your imagination.

I'm not sure why you didn't just add that user to group "dialer", but it
is quite straight forward:

/home/nick $ grep nick /etc/group
wheel:*:0:root,nick
wsrc:*:9:nick
dialer:*:117:nick
nick:*:1000:

and...I (as "nick") have no trouble using my serial port without using
sudo and without changing device file ownership.

You will probably want to create a file /var/log/aculog which is
writable by group "dialer", as well... Squishes an error message, and
provides some useful logging, too.

Nick.




Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread jackwssp q
Hello brothers and sisters,

Who knows anything about the secret keys in the packet filter(pf), such as
way only for developers.

Is it real in the open source, and how can I realize it in my own firewall
with open source?

-- 
with best respect



Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 06:18:12PM +0400, jackwssp q wrote:
> Hello brothers and sisters,

Backatcha!

> 
> Who knows anything about the secret keys in the packet filter(pf), such as
> way only for developers.

Secret...huh? Who're we talkin about?

> 
> Is it real in the open source, and how can I realize it in my own firewall
> with open source?

*headasplode*

> 
> -- 
> with best respect



Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread David Coppa
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:18 PM, jackwssp q  wrote:
> Hello brothers and sisters,
>
> Who knows anything about the secret keys in the packet filter(pf), such as
> way only for developers.
>
> Is it real in the open source, and how can I realize it in my own firewall
> with open source?

yo bro,
what have you smoked lately?



Re: request help with tip and serial port problem

2010-07-13 Thread Nicholas Marriott
And what is the response now?

You should be using cua01 not tty01.


On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 06:47:18AM -0600, fred wrote:
> I restored the dialer group to /dev/tty01 and added the user to the
> dialer group as Nick suggested.  It still doesn't work but the
> response is different now.  I believe there is a cable problem now.
> The cable works with a Sun Ultra 10 but not with the PC running
> openbsd.
> 
> Thank you for the help.
> 
> Nick Holland wrote:
> >On 07/12/10 19:32, patrick keshishian wrote:
> >>On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:58 PM, fred  wrote:
> >>>Hello,
> >>>
> >>>A user needs to connect to external equipment using tip and a serial port.
> >>>
> >>>I created an /etc/remote file:
> >>>snake:br=9600:dv=/dev/tty01:hf:nb:pa=none
> >>>
> >>>The group associated with /dev/tty01 was changed from dialer to one that
> >>>includes the user:
> >>>$ls -l /dev/tty01
> >>>crw-rw 1 uucp wheel  8,  1 Feb  7  09:38 /dev/tty01
> >>so, the user is already in wheel group. Revert above change. Enable
> >>sudo (if not already done so) for users in group wheel.
> >>
> >>$ sudo -u uucp tip snake
> >>
> >>--patrick
> >
> >uh...if all else fails, do it as root?  I think we'd prefer to avoid
> >that, unless really a root-like activity.
> >
> >The "dialer" group is set up just for this purpose.
> >
> >The problem with changing the ownership (or group) of a device file is
> >the next upgrade will overwrite your ownership change.  Ask me how I
> >know.  Better idea, don't -- just use your imagination.
> >
> >I'm not sure why you didn't just add that user to group "dialer", but it
> >is quite straight forward:
> >
> >/home/nick $ grep nick /etc/group
> >wheel:*:0:root,nick
> >wsrc:*:9:nick
> >dialer:*:117:nick
> >nick:*:1000:
> >
> >and...I (as "nick") have no trouble using my serial port without using
> >sudo and without changing device file ownership.
> >
> >You will probably want to create a file /var/log/aculog which is
> >writable by group "dialer", as well... Squishes an error message, and
> >provides some useful logging, too.
> >
> >Nick.



Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread Vadim Zhukov
2010/7/13 jackwssp q :
> Hello brothers and sisters,
>
> Who knows anything about the secret keys in the packet filter(pf), such as
> way only for developers.
>
> Is it real in the open source, and how can I realize it in my own firewall
> with open source?

# echo 'secret="Follow the white rabbit"' >>/etc/pf.conf



Re: uaudio

2010-07-13 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:38:11AM +0200, pet...@schwertfisch.de wrote:
> Jacob Meuser  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 09:10:35AM +0200, Jan Stary wrote:
> > > On Feb 21 14:04:01, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:29:15AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > More generally, what is the status of uaudio(4)?
> > > > 
> > > > It works reliably, 24-bit encodings are not supported
> > > > though; recently Jacob fixed various bugs, including a very
> > > > annoying limitation of the block size.
> > > 
> > > To support the dynamic range of the bleeding artist inside,
> > > I will buy me a 24bit (uaudio) card once 24bits is supported.
> > > Can I ask politely about the current status?
> >
> > ready to commit as far as I'm concerned, but it breaks audio(4)
> > binary compat ...
> 
> This is good news (the first part of your statement).

well, the "binary compat" issue isn't really much of an issue, afaics.
rebuilding things that use sys/audioio.h is all that's needed; it just
adds a couple new members to structs audio_encoding and audio_prinfo.
actually, if you rebuild libossaudio and libsndio (whic would be done
for you already if you update via snapshots), there are only 2 ports
in -current that would need to be rebuilt: graphics/xanim and
lang/squeak.  of course if you're using static libs, it's a little
different, but iirc, as far as ports/packages go, that only affects
the vax platform; I don't recall any port specifically using static
linkage.  besides, we live in a source code world ... or something
like that.

or maybe I'm completely off base and people really are using OpenBSD
native binaries they don't have the source to that use the OpenBSD
native audio(4) API.  if so, I'd really like to know.

this doesn't affect Linux binary emulation in any way.

> Which devices did you use for testing?

E-Mu 0202 USB.  it was a gift from patrick keshishian (thanks!).

it's also a USB 2.0 device, so there's also USB 2.0 support for uaudio
in that patchset.  the 0202 also uses a sync endpoint for playback, so
that's finally implemented (the first implementation for *BSD, btw).

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Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread Bryan
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 09:47, Vadim Zhukov  wrote:
> 2010/7/13 jackwssp q :
>> Hello brothers and sisters,
>>
>> Who knows anything about the secret keys in the packet filter(pf), such as
>> way only for developers.
>>
>> Is it real in the open source, and how can I realize it in my own firewall
>> with open source?
>
> # echo 'secret="Follow the white rabbit"' >>/etc/pf.conf
>
>

I thought that maybe I wasn't understanding what he wrote, but I can
see I'm not alone.

welcome to the spam filter "jack asswipe"...

really?  the devs have a "backdoor" in PF?  you're an idiot...



Re: Openbgpd Max Number of Neighbors per Instance

2010-07-13 Thread James Reid - McLean
I don't expect the traffic levels to reach Gigabit levels so I doubt I
will ever come close to hitting any sort of limit on the interfaces, but
would I have better support with Intel chipsets over Broadcom?

Is there a preferred Ethernet chipset for this type of setup?

James D. Reid
Spacenet Inc.
Network Engineer
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-Original Message-
From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf
Of Claudio Jeker
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 5:30 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Openbgpd Max Number of Neighbors per Instance

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 03:07:23PM -0400, James Reid - McLean wrote:
> Does anyone have information about the maximum number of BGP neighbors
a
> single instance of OpenBGPD could support assuming the following:
> 
> 1. OpenBGPD would send only "Default Route" to each neighbor
> 2. Each neighbor would advertise only 1 subnet to OpenBGPD
> 3. OpenBGPD could run in passive mode for all of the connections
> 4. OpenBGPD running on new/current/modern fully supported hardware
with
> no other services running.
> 
> I am looking to scale this configuration to support between 500 -
10,000
> peers and I need to know how much hardware I would need to purchase to
> support this.
> 

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need
a lot of kernel memory). Increase kern.maxclusters to 4-8 times the max
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Expect to hit a few other issues as well. I know of people doing tests
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Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Bryan  wrote:

> really?  the devs have a "backdoor" in PF?  you're an idiot...

Of course we do.
Don't try to find it.  We have implemented a Langford hack.  If you
read the source, the backdoor will jump over and inscribe itself
directly into your brain, and people will be able to take over your
mind directly.  You have been warned.

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Re: uaudio

2010-07-13 Thread peters
Jacob Meuser  wrote:

> E-Mu 0202 USB.  it was a gift from patrick keshishian (thanks!).
>
> it's also a USB 2.0 device, so there's also USB 2.0 support for uaudio
> in that patchset.  the 0202 also uses a sync endpoint for playback, so
> that's finally implemented (the first implementation for *BSD, btw).

Does this mean that any USB 2.0 audio device should be supported in
future releases of OpenBSD, e.g., the devices from this list:
http://www.tweakheadz.com/audio_interface_usb2_comparison_chart.htm



Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread Chris Bennett

On 07/13/10 10:50, Christian Weisgerber wrote:

Bryan  wrote:


really?  the devs have a "backdoor" in PF?  you're an idiot...


Of course we do.
Don't try to find it.  We have implemented a Langford hack.  If you
read the source, the backdoor will jump over and inscribe itself
directly into your brain, and people will be able to take over your
mind directly.  You have been warned.



I just found it.
Awaiting your orders, Master.

ACK, sir



Re: uaudio

2010-07-13 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 05:55:21PM +0200, pet...@schwertfisch.de wrote:
> Jacob Meuser  wrote:
> 
> > E-Mu 0202 USB.  it was a gift from patrick keshishian (thanks!).
> >
> > it's also a USB 2.0 device, so there's also USB 2.0 support for uaudio
> > in that patchset.  the 0202 also uses a sync endpoint for playback, so
> > that's finally implemented (the first implementation for *BSD, btw).
> 
> Does this mean that any USB 2.0 audio device should be supported in
> future releases of OpenBSD, e.g., the devices from this list:
> http://www.tweakheadz.com/audio_interface_usb2_comparison_chart.htm

not necessarily, but it does mean there would be less work ... much less
work for the other E-Mu devices listed there ;)

it really depends whether or not the devices are USB Audio 1.x compliant.
for the most part, the E-Mu devices are.  there is a USB Audio 2.x
standard now, which mostly just builds on the USB Audio 1.0 standard
but does change a few things.  it's my understanding that very few
devices are using the USB Audio 2.x standard, but that's based on
hearsay.

to be clear, a device can be USB 2.x compliant and USB Audio 1.x
compliant at the same time.  there is a small issue with that though:
USB Audio 1.x didn't predict how USB 2.x would work, so there is a
bit of wiggle room as to what "USB packet" and "USB frame" mean in
that case.

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os that rather uses the gpu?

2010-07-13 Thread Jozsi Avadkan
Does someone know a distribution/operating system, that rather uses the
GPU for "working", not the CPU? [by default]

Or this solution is still in the "beginning part"?

Thanks for any tips, link, suggestions.



Re: os that rather uses the gpu?

2010-07-13 Thread Jiri B.
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:46:13 +0200
Jozsi Avadkan  wrote:

> Does someone know a distribution/operating system, that rather uses
> the GPU for "working", not the CPU? [by default]
> 
> Or this solution is still in the "beginning part"?
> 
> Thanks for any tips, link, suggestions.
> 
> 

Why are you asking on OpenBSD mailing list? OMG.

jirib



Re: os that rather uses the gpu?

2010-07-13 Thread Vadim Zhukov
On 14 July 2010 c. 00:54:03 Jiri B. wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:46:13 +0200
>
> Jozsi Avadkan  wrote:
> > Does someone know a distribution/operating system, that rather uses
> > the GPU for "working", not the CPU? [by default]
> >
> > Or this solution is still in the "beginning part"?
> >
> > Thanks for any tips, link, suggestions.
>
> Why are you asking on OpenBSD mailing list? OMG.

Well, OpenBSD focuses on portability... (just a joke).

Looks like it is a day of mindblowing questions today...

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  Best wishes,
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A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?



Re: os that rather uses the gpu?

2010-07-13 Thread Kevin Wilcox
On 13 July 2010 16:54, Jiri B.  wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:46:13 +0200
> Jozsi Avadkan  wrote:

>> Does someone know a distribution/operating system, that rather uses
>> the GPU for "working", not the CPU? [by default]

> Why are you asking on OpenBSD mailing list? OMG.

Probably for the same reason he asked on freebsd-questions earlier today.

Looks like he's casting a wide net to increase the likelihood of a catch.

kmw

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Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread Jean-Francois
Le mardi 13 juillet 2010 17:50:04, Christian Weisgerber a icrit :
> Bryan  wrote:
> > really?  the devs have a "backdoor" in PF?  you're an idiot...
>
> Of course we do.
> Don't try to find it.  We have implemented a Langford hack.  If you
> read the source, the backdoor will jump over and inscribe itself
> directly into your brain, and people will be able to take over your
> mind directly.  You have been warned.

Actually, just reading the above mail already gives the required effect, it is
the trick.



Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread Martin Pelikán
2010/7/13, jackwssp q :
> Who knows anything about the secret keys in the packet filter(pf), such as
> way only for developers.

You can actually read the code yourself, find them and write paper
about them... Don't forget to mail misc@ about it.

-- 
MP



Re: Question about moving system to different hardware

2010-07-13 Thread Martin Pelikán
2010/7/13, Ted Wynnychenko :
> the network card will be the same, since it's moving too

Actually, it doesn't have to; its number might change due to different
motherboard layout (happened to me on one crappy ECS). Then you end up
playing with config(8).

-- 
Martin Pelikan



Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-07-13, Martin Pelik??n  wrote:
> 2010/7/13, jackwssp q :
>> Who knows anything about the secret keys in the packet filter(pf), such as
>> way only for developers.
>
> You can actually read the code yourself, find them and write paper
> about them... Don't forget to mail misc@ about it.
>

I suggest starting with /sys/net/pfkey*



Re: Secret key in the packet filter.

2010-07-13 Thread Alexander Hall
On 07/13/10 17:50, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> Bryan  wrote:
> 
>> really?  the devs have a "backdoor" in PF?  you're an idiot...
> 
> Of course we do.
> Don't try to find it.  We have implemented a Langford hack.  If you
> read the source, the backdoor will jump over and inscribe itself
> directly into your brain, and people will be able to take over your
> mind directly.  You have been warned.

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