Re: Load balancing incoming trafic with BGP

[BARDOU Pierre]

Hello,

I tried to follow your advices, and I set :
network 1.1.1.0/24
network 1.1.1.0/25 set prepend-self 5

The /25 appears on the RIB of router A, but not in ISP A router RIB.
Why ? My only filter rule is "allow from any"

A few details :
* 1.1.1.0/24 is for testing purposes an used only in my (isolated) lab. I have
a true /24, registered with RIPE.
* I have an MPLS VPN between my two sites, which uses different wires from
Internet
* I didn't knew the issue about propagating a /25 to the internet. Thanks for
the information, I'll have to think about that before setting this in
production...

Many thanks for the help
--
Cordialement,
Pierre BARDOU


-Message d'origine-
De : Stuart Henderson [mailto:s...@spacehopper.org]
Envoyi : samedi 26 juin 2010 12:18
@ : misc@openbsd.org
Objet : Re: Load balancing incoming trafic with BGP

On 2010-06-25, BARDOU Pierre  wrote:
> I have issues trying to setup this :
>
>ISP AISP B
>  ||
>   Router ARouter B
>  Main site  ---  Backup site
>  1.1.1.0/25  1.1.1.128/25

I think you will have to rethink a bit.

Even if your immediate upstreams accept it (which is unlikely without
a special arrangement), there is no way that most of the internet will
accept a /25 announcement. You would want to use at least a /23 for
the whole net, so your site-specific announcements can be /24.

You will also have to ensure connectivity between the two sites
under normal conditions (if you don't have a direct link, then you
could consider a tunnel between addresses from outside this network;
either plain gif/gre and accept the restricted MTU, or you could use a
gre+vether+bridge+pf setup which would let you run at the lowest MTU
of the physical links between them).

> I'd like that connections to the main site flow through ISP A, to the
backup
> site flow through ISP B, with backup through the other ISP if one fails.
> So I set up openBGPd like this :
> Router A :
> AS 65001
> network 1.1.1.0/25
> network 1.1.1.128/25 set prepend-self 5

>From one site you would want to announce x.x.x.0/25 and x.x.x.0/24
>From the other you want x.x.x.128/25 and x.x.x.0/24 (or similar with
/24 and /23 if you actually want it to work from the rest of the
internet).

Also: note that 1.0.0.0/8 is an allocated network. Please do not
use addresses from this block even as a test network unless they are
properly allocated to you (which being in europe, they are not).

Re: Openbsd Logging and Changes of Timezone

[rhsv6]

ack. Thanks Paul.

Re: Load balancing incoming trafic with BGP

[rhsv6]

Hello,

Have you tried a filter based config for your prepends ?

Re: Intel PRO/1000 QP on Dell R610 and OpenBSD 4.7

[uhu]

FrC)dC)ric URBAN  ircad.u-strasbg.fr> writes:

> 
> .
> I didn't find any bug report yet on the OpenBSD official Website, this 
> is a different case than the one  reported here:
> http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yes&numbers=6301 
> 
> 
> Can somebody report it with a dmesg on 4.7 ?
> 
> 


I reported it some days ago, got an error message, but the bug report
seems to be here since 07/23:

http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yes&numbers=6408

Uwe

Re: Load balancing incoming trafic with BGP

[Stuart Henderson]

On 2010-06-29, BARDOU Pierre  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I tried to follow your advices, and I set :
> network 1.1.1.0/24
> network 1.1.1.0/25 set prepend-self 5

hmm, I meant that you should announce the larger network (/24) from
both sites, and the more-specific (/25) from each site.

e.g. from the main site:

network 1.1.1.0/24
network 1.1.1.0/25

and from the backup site:

network 1.1.1.0/24
network 1.1.1.128/25

No need to mess about with prepends for this.

> The /25 appears on the RIB of router A, but not in ISP A router RIB.
> Why ? My only filter rule is "allow from any"

Are you absolutely certain you have "allow from any" everywhere
that you need it?

> A few details :
> * 1.1.1.0/24 is for testing purposes an used only in my (isolated) lab. I have
> a true /24, registered with RIPE.

It is still bad practice. What if someone were to use your registered
/24 in their test network, and then accidentally announce it to the internet?
Sometimes things which "shouldn't happen" do; the point of this is to avoid
breaking other people's networks when things go wrong.

> * I have an MPLS VPN between my two sites, which uses different wires from
> Internet
> * I didn't knew the issue about propagating a /25 to the internet. Thanks for
> the information, I'll have to think about that before setting this in
> production...

Yes, something like the "allow from any inet prefixlen 8 - 24" in the
sample bgpd.conf (i.e. don't allow longer prefixes) is pretty common
practice in many networks.




>
> Many thanks for the help
> --
> Cordialement,
> Pierre BARDOU
>
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Stuart Henderson [mailto:s...@spacehopper.org]
> Envoyi : samedi 26 juin 2010 12:18
> @ : misc@openbsd.org
> Objet : Re: Load balancing incoming trafic with BGP
>
> On 2010-06-25, BARDOU Pierre  wrote:
>> I have issues trying to setup this :
>>
>>ISP AISP B
>>  ||
>>   Router ARouter B
>>  Main site  ---  Backup site
>>  1.1.1.0/25  1.1.1.128/25
>
> I think you will have to rethink a bit.
>
> Even if your immediate upstreams accept it (which is unlikely without
> a special arrangement), there is no way that most of the internet will
> accept a /25 announcement. You would want to use at least a /23 for
> the whole net, so your site-specific announcements can be /24.
>
> You will also have to ensure connectivity between the two sites
> under normal conditions (if you don't have a direct link, then you
> could consider a tunnel between addresses from outside this network;
> either plain gif/gre and accept the restricted MTU, or you could use a
> gre+vether+bridge+pf setup which would let you run at the lowest MTU
> of the physical links between them).
>
>> I'd like that connections to the main site flow through ISP A, to the
> backup
>> site flow through ISP B, with backup through the other ISP if one fails.
>> So I set up openBGPd like this :
>> Router A :
>> AS 65001
>> network 1.1.1.0/25
>> network 1.1.1.128/25 set prepend-self 5
>
> From one site you would want to announce x.x.x.0/25 and x.x.x.0/24
> From the other you want x.x.x.128/25 and x.x.x.0/24 (or similar with
> /24 and /23 if you actually want it to work from the rest of the
> internet).
>
> Also: note that 1.0.0.0/8 is an allocated network. Please do not
> use addresses from this block even as a test network unless they are
> properly allocated to you (which being in europe, they are not).

Re: acpi support with samsung P28

[[B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer]

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:52:25 +0200, TorbjC8rn H. Orskaug
 wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM, [B&G-Consulting] Elmar Bschorer
>  wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> i have a samsung p28 laptop running openbsd 4.7.
>> unfortunately apm as well as sysctl | grep acpi do not show up any
>> information about the battery state.
>> i guess samsung just shipped a crap acpi ;-) anyway - do you know any
>> solution how to get battery states from samsung acpi?
>>
>>
>> tia
>>
>> elmar
>>
>>
> 
> Without a dmesg and the output of apcidump, we can't really diagnose
> your problem any further.

et voilC :

dmesg:
--
OpenBSD 4.7 (GENERIC) #558: Wed Mar 17 20:46:15 MDT 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class)
1.61 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF,EST,TM2
real mem  = 804265984 (767MB)
avail mem = 770547712 (734MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/06/04, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd710,
SMBIOS rev. 2.31 @ 0xe0010 (22 entries)
bios0: vendor SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO.,LTD version "D6OA.20040906.3032.HJU"
date 09/06/2004
bios0: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO.,LTD P28
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 (BIOS management disabled)
apm0: APM power management enable: unrecognized device ID (9)
apm0: APM engage (device 1): power management disabled (1)
apm0: battery life expectancy 100%
apm0: AC on, battery charge high
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd710/0x8f0
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf20/192 (10 entries)
pcibios0: no compatible PCI ICU found: ICU vendor 0x1002 product 0x434c
pcibios0: Warning, unable to fix up PCI interrupt routing
pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x4000 0xd4000/0x1000
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1601 MHz: speeds: 1600, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800, 600
MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "ATI RS300_100 Host" rev 0x02
agp at pchb0 not configured
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "ATI Radeon IGP 9100 AGP" rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 "ATI Radeon Mobility M10" rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: irq 10
drm0 at radeondrm0
ohci0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 "ATI SB200 USB" rev 0x01: irq 9, version
1.0, legacy support
piixpm0 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "ATI SB200 SMBus" rev 0x18: SMI
iic0 at piixpm0
admtemp0 at iic0 addr 0x4c: adm1032
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 256MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 512MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5
pciide0 at pci0 dev 20 function 1 "ATI SB200 IDE" rev 0x00: DMA, channel 0
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 57231MB, 117210240 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  ATAPI 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2
pcib0 at pci0 dev 20 function 3 "ATI SB200 ISA" rev 0x00
ppb1 at pci0 dev 20 function 4 "ATI SB200 PCI" rev 0x00
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
mem address conflict 0x3000/0x1000
io address conflict 0x5800/0x8
vendor "AT&T/Lucent", unknown product 0xab30 (class network subclass
miscellaneous, rev 0x00) at pci2 dev 3 function 0 not configured
cbb0 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 "Ricoh 5C475 CardBus" rev 0x81: couldn't map
interrupt
bce0 at pci2 dev 5 function 0 "Broadcom BCM4401B1" rev 0x02: irq 11,
address 00:00:f0:74:97:32
bmtphy0 at bce0 phy 1: BCM4401 10/100baseTX PHY, rev. 0
ohci1 at pci2 dev 6 function 0 "NEC USB" rev 0x43: irq 9, version 1.0,
legacy support
ohci2 at pci2 dev 6 function 1 "NEC USB" rev 0x43: irq 11, version 1.0,
legacy support
ehci0 at pci2 dev 6 function 2 "NEC USB" rev 0x04: irq 5
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "NEC EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "NEC OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "NEC OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
auixp0 at pci0 dev 20 function 5 "ATI SB200 AC97" rev 0x00: irq 5
auixp0: soft resetting aclink
"ATI SB200 Modem" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 20 function 6 not configured
usb3 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "ATI OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: 
spkr0 at pcppi0
npx0 at isa0 port 0x

wd0i: device fault reading fsbn ...

[Tony Berth]

Hi,

dmesg keeps displaying following entry:

wd0i: device fault reading fsbn 4146624 of 4146624-4146655 (wd0 bn 85997799;
cn 5353 tn 29 sn 27), retrying
pciide1:0:0: recal drive fault

there are 2 IDE HDs connected. Should I derive that the HD is dead?

Thanks

Re: Load balancing incoming trafic with BGP

[BARDOU Pierre]

Hello,



I did this on router A :



network 217.109.108.0/24

network 217.109.108.128/25



neigbor...



allow from any

match to any prefix 217.109.108.128/25 set prepend-self 5



On router A "bgpctl sh rib" :

Flags   destination gateway lpref   med aspath  
origin

AI*>217.109.108.0/240.0.0.0 100 0   
i

AI*>217.109.108.128/24  0.0.0.0 100 0   
i



On ISP router A "bgpctl sh rib" : 

Flags   destination gateway lpref   med aspath  
origin

AI*>217.109.108.0/240.0.0.0 100 0   65001   
i

AI*>217.109.108.128/24  0.0.0.0 100 0   65001 65001 65001 65001 
65001   i



Everything is fine :)

Many, many thanks for your help.



--

Cordialement,

Pierre BARDOU





-Message d'origine-

DeB : rh...@hushmail.com [mailto:rh...@hushmail.com] 

EnvoyC)B : mardi 29 juin 2010 13:30

CB : misc@openbsd.org

CcB : BARDOU Pierre

ObjetB : Re: Load balancing incoming trafic with BGP



Hello,



Have you tried a filter based config for your prepends ?

Re: Load balancing incoming trafic with BGP

[Stuart Henderson]

On 2010-06-29, BARDOU Pierre  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I did this on router A :
>
> network 217.109.108.0/24
> network 217.109.108.128/25
>
> neigbor...
>
> allow from any
> match to any prefix 217.109.108.128/25 set prepend-self 5
>
> On router A "bgpctl sh rib" :
>
> Flags destination gateway lpref   med aspath  
> origin
> AI*>  217.109.108.0/240.0.0.0 100 0   
> i
> AI*>  217.109.108.128/24  0.0.0.0 100 0   
> i
>
> On ISP router A "bgpctl sh rib" : 
>
> Flags destination gateway lpref   med aspath  
> origin
> AI*>  217.109.108.0/240.0.0.0 100 0   65001   
> i
> AI*>  217.109.108.128/24  0.0.0.0 100 0   65001 65001 65001 65001 
> 65001   i
>
> Everything is fine :)


Hmm, that's wierd, the received routes are /24!

Re: Intel PRO/1000 QP on Dell R610 and OpenBSD 4.7

[Frédéric URBAN]

Le 29/06/2010 14:16, uhu a C)crit :

FrC)dC)ric URBAN  ircad.u-strasbg.fr>  writes:

   

.
I didn't find any bug report yet on the OpenBSD official Website, this
is a different case than the one  reported here:
http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yes&numbers=6301


Can somebody report it with a dmesg on 4.7 ?


 


I reported it some days ago, got an error message, but the bug report
seems to be here since 07/23:

http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yes&numbers=6408

Uwe

   

Hello again,

Maybe i got a fix, I modified some lines of code inside the driver... I 
booted 4x times without nics that has failed... But i'll try it more 
before saying victory ;)


Fred

Re: Intel PRO/1000 QP on Dell R610 and OpenBSD 4.7

[wrh]

4.6 or 4.7 code?

-Bill

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Fridiric URBAN
 wrote:
> Le 29/06/2010 14:16, uhu a C)crit :
>>
>> FrC)dC)ric URBAN  ircad.u-strasbg.fr>  writes:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> .
>>> I didn't find any bug report yet on the OpenBSD official Website, this
>>> is a different case than the one  reported here:
>>> http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yes&numbers=6301
>>> 
>>>
>>> Can somebody report it with a dmesg on 4.7 ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I reported it some days ago, got an error message, but the bug report
>> seems to be here since 07/23:
>>
>> http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yes&numbers=6408
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>>
>
> Hello again,
>
> Maybe i got a fix, I modified some lines of code inside the driver... I
> booted 4x times without nics that has failed... But i'll try it more before
> saying victory ;)
>
> Fred

Re: Intel PRO/1000 QP on Dell R610 and OpenBSD 4.7

[Frédéric URBAN]

4.7, but it only fix the hardware initialization. I've got all interface 
available in ifconfig and known by the kernel but thoses who useally 
don't get initialized doesn't work when you plug the cable, there must 
be a similar problem when bringing up the link.


The problem, I fixed on hw_init was simply a failing mutex (in 
if_em_hw.c) . When interrogating the PHY registers at the end of 
em_setup_copper_link(), if the PHY is busy, the function 
em_read_phy_reg() return an error (E1000_ERR_PHY) which is brought on 
the function stack and lead to hardware initialization failure... So i 
took the code from e1000_82575.c of the freebsd project and this is 
over. Now this is uglyly coded, it need to be rewritten to feet with the 
OpenBSD em(4) philosophy which is totaly different from freebsd em/igb 
code. I will be busy at work but i'll try to keep on working on that 
during my free time. If somebody wants to help/go on, mail me ;)


PS: I'll have fiber card soon, we'll see they have the same problem.

Fred

Le 29/06/2010 18:29, w...@wootsie.com a icrit :

4.6 or 4.7 code?

-Bill

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Fridiric URBAN
  wrote:
   

Le 29/06/2010 14:16, uhu a C)crit :
 

FrC)dC)ric URBAN   ircad.u-strasbg.fr>   writes:


   

.
I didn't find any bug report yet on the OpenBSD official Website, this
is a different case than the one  reported here:
http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yes&numbers=6301


Can somebody report it with a dmesg on 4.7 ?



 

I reported it some days ago, got an error message, but the bug report
seems to be here since 07/23:

http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yes&numbers=6408

Uwe


   

Hello again,

Maybe i got a fix, I modified some lines of code inside the driver... I
booted 4x times without nics that has failed... But i'll try it more before
saying victory ;)

Fred

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OpenBSD as a laptop OS

[Ilya Ilembitov]

Well, just check on OpenPorts.se if the software you need is there. I
don't think there are many GNOME users on OpenBSD (you may have some
better luck with XFCE, but it's just my guess). However, I think that
after GNOME3 is out there, GNOME 2.30 might stay in ports for a while
and get some polishing, so it might become a stable and robust
experience, just like with KDE 3.5.

Second, check for your hardware. There is no such thing as "standard
x86". You might have an unsupported wi-fi or ethernet card or anything
else, there might be some ACPI issues. And you're not likely to get 3D
if you have Nvidia (Intel & ATI should work, to my knowledge).

And you're lucky if you don't need Unicode. For me that's a big
show-stopper on a desktop machine. Once OpenBSD gets UTF-8, there
won't be just any reason for me not to use it on a laptop. All my
hardware (Thinkpad X200s) is supported, all the apps I need are there.
It's just that I don't want to think about the encoding of the files I
get on USB sticks, etc. There should be some UTF-love coming to 4.8, I
believe.

Oh, and one more thing - think about any proprietary software you want
to use. Because you're likely won't be able to do so. It's not just
Flash, but also Skype, for example.

Other than that you'll get a stable and nice OS, much better than
Linux in some regards, not so point-n-click (no GUI manager for
wireless connections, for example), but transparent and predictable.



>I am thinking about changing my OS to OpenBSD on my laptop, which is standard
>x86.
>It would be used as internet browser, mail client, multimedia, pciture & 
>video, etc ...

>My question is simple, is OpenBSD convenient enough for a daily usage ?
>What are the experiences about that ?

>Just to be sure, as of today, is ntfs experimental or working, or not ? for
>read ? for r/w ?

>I will certainly do with gnome wm.

>I know such question might not be very convenient to answer, this is just to
>be sure I can peacefully back-up my data and reinstall freshly without
>worrying about anything but being using a great os.

>Thanks

ftp(1) - csh wildcards issue

[Jiri B.]

Hello,

I found a ftp server from which I wanted to download specific files and
I discovered that ftp(1) cannot handle CSH wildcards correctly
(probably)...

Example:

ftp
ftp://ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/{screen,figlet}*

works OK

ftp
ftp://ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/{[sS]creen,[fF]iglet}*

doesn't work.

jirib

Re: ftp(1) - csh wildcards issue

[Alexander Hall]

On 06/29/10 15:32, Jiri B. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I found a ftp server from which I wanted to download specific files and
> I discovered that ftp(1) cannot handle CSH wildcards correctly
> (probably)...
> 
> Example:
> 
> ftp
> ftp://ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/{screen,figlet}*
> 
> works OK
> 
> ftp
> ftp://ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/{[sS]creen,[fF]iglet}*
> 
> doesn't work.
> 
> jirib

Neither of those are actually handled by ftp, but expanded and passed
as arguments to the ftp server.

/Alexander

Zend Framework & pear-PHPUnit2 on OpenBSD

[Fred Crowson]

Hi Misc@

Is any one using PHPUnit for regression testing on OpenBSD?

I'm successfully running the Zend Framework on OpenBSD 4.7 and
would like to integrate PHPUnit for testing, I've installed the
pear-PHPUnit2-2.1.6p1 package, but it doesn't seem to include the
phpunit.php script - I'm sure I'm missing something obvious

Any clues appreciated.

thanks

Fred

Re: Zend Framework & pear-PHPUnit2 on OpenBSD

[Devin Ceartas]

Probably not a OpenBSD specific question, really.

But, yes, I have used PHPUnit on 4.6 and I installed it directly, not  
through Pear.


-- devin


On Jun 29, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Fred Crowson wrote:


Hi Misc@

Is any one using PHPUnit for regression testing on OpenBSD?

I'm successfully running the Zend Framework on OpenBSD 4.7 and
would like to integrate PHPUnit for testing, I've installed the
pear-PHPUnit2-2.1.6p1 package, but it doesn't seem to include the
phpunit.php script - I'm sure I'm missing something obvious

Any clues appreciated.

thanks

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Re: OpenBSD as a laptop OS

[VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO]

> And you're lucky if you don't need Unicode. For me that's a big
> show-stopper on a desktop machine. Once OpenBSD gets UTF-8, there
> won't be just any reason for me not to use it on a laptop. All my
> hardware (Thinkpad X200s) is supported, all the apps I need are there.
> It's just that I don't want to think about the encoding of the files I
> get on USB sticks, etc. There should be some UTF-love coming to 4.8, I
> believe.
>

By the way, my friend and I were thinking about implementing Unicode in
OpenBSD's userland, as part of a plan to learn encoding and C since we
are Computer Science/Engineering students. Is there any work going on on
this? We are thinking about doing this next month, since we will be on
vacation...

Since we are noobs, I can't guarantee we will actually do it, but
at least _I_ will try.

We never developed a serious project, and I don't know how
difficult this will be. Any advice?

By the way, is it required for us to use current to do this?

Re: OpenBSD as a laptop OS

[czarkoff]

Ilya Ilembitov  wrote:

> And you're lucky if you don't need Unicode. For me that's a big
> show-stopper on a desktop machine. Once OpenBSD gets UTF-8, there
> won't be just any reason for me not to use it on a laptop. All my
> hardware (Thinkpad X200s) is supported, all the apps I need are there.
> It's just that I don't want to think about the encoding of the files I
> get on USB sticks, etc. There should be some UTF-love coming to 4.8, I
> believe.

If You are talking about Stefan Sperling's work on UTF-8 (announced on
Undeadly), than it works for me exceptionally and I'm freely reading and
writing my Russian language mails in uxterm. But no codepage option for
mount_msdos yet.

> Oh, and one more thing - think about any proprietary software you want
> to use. Because you're likely won't be able to do so. It's not just
> Flash, but also Skype, for example.

Linux binary emulation?

> >Just to be sure, as of today, is ntfs experimental or working, or not ? for
> >read ? for r/w ?

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=mount_ntfs

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Re: OpenBSD as a laptop OS

[Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda]

czark...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ilya Ilembitov  wrote:
>
> > And you're lucky if you don't need Unicode. For me that's a big
> > show-stopper on a desktop machine. Once OpenBSD gets UTF-8, there
> > won't be just any reason for me not to use it on a laptop. All my
> > hardware (Thinkpad X200s) is supported, all the apps I need are there.
> > It's just that I don't want to think about the encoding of the files I
> > get on USB sticks, etc. There should be some UTF-love coming to 4.8, I
> > believe.
>
> If You are talking about Stefan Sperling's work on UTF-8 (announced on
> Undeadly), than it works for me exceptionally and I'm freely reading and
> writing my Russian language mails in uxterm. But no codepage option for
> mount_msdos yet.
>
> > Oh, and one more thing - think about any proprietary software you want
> > to use. Because you're likely won't be able to do so. It's not just
> > Flash, but also Skype, for example.
>
> Linux binary emulation?
>
> > >Just to be sure, as of today, is ntfs experimental or working, or not ? for
> > >read ? for r/w ?
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=mount_ntfs
>
> --
> Dmitrij D. Czarkoff

NTFS: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=127784940712724&w=2

Just use Linux.

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Re: OpenBSD as a laptop OS

[czarkoff]

"VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO"  wrote:
> By the way, my friend and I were thinking about implementing Unicode in
> OpenBSD's userland, as part of a plan to learn encoding and C since we
> are Computer Science/Engineering students. Is there any work going on on
> this?

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=mount_ntfs

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Dmitrij D. Czarkoff

Re: OpenBSD as a laptop OS

[czarkoff]

Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda  wrote:

> NTFS: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=127784940712724&w=2
>
> Just use Linux.

% ls -1 /usr/src/sys/ntfs
CVS
TODO
ntfs.h
ntfs_compr.c
ntfs_compr.h
ntfs_conv.c
ntfs_ihash.c
ntfs_ihash.h
ntfs_inode.h
ntfs_subr.c
ntfs_subr.h
ntfs_vfsops.c
ntfs_vfsops.h
ntfs_vnops.c
ntfsmount.h

What am I doing wrong?

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