Re: Input plans

2013-10-02 Thread Daniel d'Andrada

On 02/10/13 00:10, Daniel van Vugt wrote:

Do we have a roadmap for how to deal with the future of Mir input?

I mean, Mir uses Android input. When there's a bug or missing feature, 
do we intend to maintain and branch the Android input code? Is that 
more desirable than Mir having its own implementation to be molded as 
required?




It's a fork of Android input code. Now it's pretty much intact (i.e. 
almost a verbatim copy of the original code) but the idea is that we 
will freely modify it to suite our needs (for better or worse). But once 
we start doing so we will also be taking in the burden of maintaining 
it. Which means covering it with tests etc. That's why I have been 
pushing some test-related patches for android-input code. Preparing the 
ground for upcoming modifications.


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Extra question for the FAQ

2013-10-02 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling

Hello Mir Developers,

First off -- I'm sorry to read yesterday's news about Mir+XMir not shipping by 
default, but I hope it offers you some breathing space -- it's been exciting and 
inspirational watching your pace of development!


Anyway, one question not (explicitly) answered in the FAQ you posted here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/13.10/NoDefaultQ%26A

Will those of us with Mir+XMir installed on our 13.10 systems continue to 
receive updates with new/improved functionality as we have been during the 
pre-release period?


The FAQ mentions updates, but it's not clear what these will be, whether they'll 
only address the worst bugs with the distro version of Mir+XMir effectively 
being frozen until 14.04, or whether universe mir/xmir packages will keep 
advancing more strongly.


Thanks again and best wishes,

-- Joe

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Re: Extra question for the FAQ

2013-10-02 Thread Kevin Gunn
Hi Joe -
first thanks for the kind words & willingness to try out Xmir.

As to receiving more updates in 13.10 per se, that is unlikely to happen
since 13.10 is in a freeze state (see
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule) and we will be
moving into our development phase for 14.04. And as such, I would envision
many of the fixes we actually have in our hip pocket will be cleaned up and
landed on our 14.04 development releases.

thanks again.
best regards, kg


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling <
joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net> wrote:

> Hello Mir Developers,
>
> First off -- I'm sorry to read yesterday's news about Mir+XMir not
> shipping by default, but I hope it offers you some breathing space -- it's
> been exciting and inspirational watching your pace of development!
>
> Anyway, one question not (explicitly) answered in the FAQ you posted here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/**13.10/NoDefaultQ%26A
>
> Will those of us with Mir+XMir installed on our 13.10 systems continue to
> receive updates with new/improved functionality as we have been during the
> pre-release period?
>
> The FAQ mentions updates, but it's not clear what these will be, whether
> they'll only address the worst bugs with the distro version of Mir+XMir
> effectively being frozen until 14.04, or whether universe mir/xmir packages
> will keep advancing more strongly.
>
> Thanks again and best wishes,
>
> -- Joe
>
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Re: Nexus 7

2013-10-02 Thread Kevin DuBois
Last time i was tinkering with the Nexus 7 (presumably the older
model, not the Nexus 7HD), most things were working, except there was
an undiagnosed problem with hybris and the nexus 7 hwc. The nvidia
drivers use a fair amount of the pthread api that the other drivers
don't use (such as process-shared mutexes), which requires special
workarounds in libhybris. They are probably the trickiest drivers in
that regard.

 A few months ago, I could get things to work by forcing the backup
display mode. I'm reworking the hwc code a bit (it has become a small
mess), so maybe I could give a try at some point.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Daniel van Vugt
 wrote:
> Has anyone else played with Mir on Nexus 7?  It looks like there's only
> _one_ bug stopping it from really working...
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bugs?field.tag=nexus7
>
> I mention this because my N4 is in for repairs and I only have the N7 right
> now.
>
> - Daniel
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Script to bump server ABI

2013-10-02 Thread Robert Ancell
Find attached a script you can use to bump the ABI on libmirserver to save
time doing it manually.

Run from the bzr checkout with:
$ chmod +x bump_abi.py
$ ./bump_abi.py

Enjoy!
--Robert


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Re: Script to bump server ABI

2013-10-02 Thread Kevin Gunn
note...with the script, you still have to manually take care of the
0.0.whatever-0ubtunu(1not2) at the top of changelog
and you still have to get MIR_VERSION_PATCH # in CMakeList.txt at the top
dir level


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Robert Ancell
wrote:

> Find attached a script you can use to bump the ABI on libmirserver to save
> time doing it manually.
>
> Run from the bzr checkout with:
> $ chmod +x bump_abi.py
> $ ./bump_abi.py
>
> Enjoy!
> --Robert
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Re: Script to bump server ABI

2013-10-02 Thread Daniel van Vugt
I think there are likely many case where we fear an ABI break is 
happening when really it's not. Like some of last night's landings.


In future I shall have to remind myself to point this out in the MP 
description... "I'm changing the server headers but it's not an ABI/API 
break".


Of course, if no one's gone to the trouble of thoroughly checking then 
we need to assume it's a break and bump.



On 03/10/13 08:37, Robert Ancell wrote:

Find attached a script you can use to bump the ABI on libmirserver to
save time doing it manually.

Run from the bzr checkout with:
$ chmod +x bump_abi.py
$ ./bump_abi.py

Enjoy!
--Robert




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Re: Script to bump server ABI

2013-10-02 Thread Kevin Gunn
we definitely broke in the last round


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Daniel van Vugt <
daniel.van.v...@canonical.com> wrote:

> I think there are likely many case where we fear an ABI break is happening
> when really it's not. Like some of last night's landings.
>
> In future I shall have to remind myself to point this out in the MP
> description... "I'm changing the server headers but it's not an ABI/API
> break".
>
> Of course, if no one's gone to the trouble of thoroughly checking then we
> need to assume it's a break and bump.
>
>
>
> On 03/10/13 08:37, Robert Ancell wrote:
>
>> Find attached a script you can use to bump the ABI on libmirserver to
>> save time doing it manually.
>>
>> Run from the bzr checkout with:
>> $ chmod +x bump_abi.py
>> $ ./bump_abi.py
>>
>> Enjoy!
>> --Robert
>>
>>
>>
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