[MlMt] List headers view default?

2016-11-14 Thread Tom Worster
How can I set up so that list headers are always displayed when I read 
an email?


I don't need compact headers so list view would a nice default for me. 
Switching all the time with the menu is a bit of a drag.


Tom
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Re: [MlMt] mailmate Digest, Vol 68, Issue 13

2016-11-15 Thread Tom Worster
On 15 Nov 2016, at 12:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote:

> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:43:10 +0100
> From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" 
> To: "MailMate Users" 
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] List headers view default?
> Message-ID: <42073360-c8fc-4c91-95a7-4fe20f61f...@freron.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
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> On 15 Nov 2016, at 1:00, Tom Worster wrote:
>
>> How can I set up so that list headers are always displayed when I read
>> an email?
>>
>> I don't need compact headers so list view would a nice default for me.
>> Switching all the time with the menu is a bit of a drag.
>
> Yes, this does not currently work very well. For now, I've changed the
> default behavior to the list format, but I need to make this (and many
> other mailbox related settings) more easily configurable. Hold down ⌥
> when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane
> to get the latest test release.

Gosh, that was fast. Much better!

Thank you.

Tom
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[MlMt] Signature placement

2016-11-17 Thread Tom Worster
I am baffled by MailMate's behavior wrt signatures. What am I doing 
wrong?


First, if Preferences:Signatures:Default signature placement is set to 
"Top" then, when I reply to an email, the signature is inserted at the 
bottom of the reply, below the quoted text. The behavior is the same if 
it is set to "Bottom", except that this is [less astonishing](Principle 
of least astonishment).


I need to top-reply in most of my correspondences because this is what 
people expect. And I need my signature to be immediately below my reply 
and above the quoted text. For now, I copy-paste the signature that 
MailMate inserts at the bottom of the email to the top and then compose 
my reply.


Second, how do I defeat automatic insertion of a signature?

Third, I use signatures as a convenient way to insert various 
boilerplate texts. But when I insert a signature using the composer's 
toolbar, I always get a warning about discarding HTML. What's this 
about?


Finally, I don't understand what is the "HTML Variant" or how it works.

What would suit me is very simple:

1. An option to not insert a signature by default.
2. When I insert a signature using the composer's toolbar menu, MailMate 
inserts it

- at my carat, wherever that may be, and
- simply as a plain-text string. Regardless if I am composing in 
markdown or not, just insert the characters in the signature string as 
though I had typed them or copy-pasted them from a text-editor.


Unless I'm doing something wrong, I will need to add something like 
[Paste](http://pasteapp.me/) to MailMate to transition from Outlook.


Tom
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Re: [MlMt] Signature placement

2016-11-23 Thread Tom Worster

Hi Benny,

Thanks for considering this.

Tom

On 22 Nov 2016, at 8:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Tom Worster wrote:

I am baffled by MailMate's behavior wrt signatures. What am I doing 
wrong?


First, if Preferences:Signatures:Default signature placement is set 
to "Top" then, when I reply to an email, the signature is inserted at 
the bottom of the reply, below the quoted text. The behavior is the 
same if it is set to "Bottom", except that this is [less 
astonishing](Principle of least astonishment).


I need to top-reply in most of my correspondences because this is 
what people expect. And I need my signature to be immediately below 
my reply and above the quoted text. For now, I copy-paste the 
signature that MailMate inserts at the bottom of the email to the top 
and then compose my reply.


How it's supposed to work: If you use the “Top”/“Bottom” menu 
items in the Signature menu in the Composer then MailMate should learn 
your habits.


The default in the Signatures preferences pane is only used when 
MailMate cannot derive the location based on previous responses (this 
also includes which signature to use). If you change this setting then 
you should also click “Reset Usage History” in the same window.


If it's any consolation I'll likely make the dynamic signature system 
opt-in at some point. Some users are extremely happy about this 
feature and some are deeply frustrated. You clearly fall in the latter 
category.



Second, how do I defeat automatic insertion of a signature?


The dynamic part of it can be disabled by pasting the following in a 
Terminal window:


	defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDynamicSignatureMethod -string 
"none"


Third, I use signatures as a convenient way to insert various 
boilerplate texts.


I cannot really recommend that.

But when I insert a signature using the composer's toolbar, I always 
get a warning about discarding HTML. What's this about?


Hmm, I'm not sure why that is triggered. This should only happen if 
editing the plain text variant of HTML embedded content, but 
apparently MailMate tries to do that when inserting the signature...


Ok, I can reproduce that and I've noted it as a bug.

Read more about how MailMate handles plain text here: 
https://manual.mailmate-app.com


Finally, I don't understand what is the "HTML Variant" or how it 
works.


Since MailMate uses a plain text composer then HTML cannot be inserted 
directly in the text editor. Instead, the plain text version of the 
signature is inserted (which is needed anyways since all HTML emails 
include a plain text variant as well). If an HTML variant exists for 
the signature then MailMate know that is also need to create an HTML 
variant of the message and within this the HTML variant of the 
signature is used.



What would suit me is very simple:

1. An option to not insert a signature by default.


Noted.

2. When I insert a signature using the composer's toolbar menu, 
MailMate inserts it

- at my carat, wherever that may be, and


I'll consider that.

- simply as a plain-text string. Regardless if I am composing in 
markdown or not, just insert the characters in the signature string 
as though I had typed them or copy-pasted them from a text-editor.


Insertion of signatures should not behave differently in Markdown 
mode.


Unless I'm doing something wrong, I will need to add something like 
[Paste](http://pasteapp.me/) to MailMate to transition from Outlook.


In any case, if what you are looking for is some sort of text 
expansion utility then that is likely more suitable and probably also 
more useful in general.


--
Benny
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[MlMt] Date Received in message list

2016-12-20 Thread Tom Worster
Can I configure MailMate to display the time in the date received column 
of the message list for more than today?


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Re: [MlMt] Date Received in message list

2016-12-22 Thread Tom Worster

On 20 Dec 2016, at 17:20, Sherif Soliman wrote:


On 20 Dec 2016, at 10:00, Tom Worster wrote:

Can I configure MailMate to display the time in the date received 
column of the message list for more than today?




I think that, coincidentally, the question of the width of the Date 
Received column was raised only a couple of days ago on the list.


Try increasing the width of the Date Received column. Prior to doing 
that, I could only see the time for the Today emails, but once you 
increase it you'll find that the times are shown for all of them.


thank you.

tom
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