Re: [MlMt] Markdown Engines

2024-07-03 Thread Thomas Eckhold
Interesting. How to place a footnote above the signature and an e-mail 
thread that is included in a message? Even if I place the footnote text 
above the signature MM puts it at the very end of the message body.


Thanks,

Thomas


On 2 Jul 2024, at 10:46, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 2 Jul 2024, at 10:36, Rob Russell via mailmate wrote:

Tables work great. What I meant to refer to were features like 
footnotes and cross-references (I email lots of documentation).


Just for the record, I do believe footnotes work[^footnote]. But 
clicking on the links might not work in all receiving email clients 
(they did not always work in MailMate).

[^footnote]: Footnote is here.

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Re: [MlMt] To *not* generate HTML

2024-07-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 2 Jul 2024, at 17:39, Pete Resnick via mailmate wrote:


On 2 Jul 2024, at 3:05, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

For example, most Markdown implementations do not “respect” 
hard-wrapping lines. This does not work well for emails and therefore 
MailMate handles it differently. Some other email client developer 
might make a different decision. The behavior might even differ 
between different versions of MailMate (due to changes in its 
Markdown utility).


In these cases, where the Markdown is very variant specific, 
text/markdown (RFC 7763) is probably the right thing to do instead of 
text/plain markup=markdown. I understand that would open an entirely 
new can of worms.


It certainly would. This RFC is fine for MIME types in general, but (in 
practice) I think it would fail completely if used for the actual 
content of the email. Most email clients should just consider it to be 
`text/plain`. That won't happen if it had its own MIME type -- *and* it 
would require the generation of a `text/plain` alternative which would 
essentially mean that the same text would be in the email twice (HTML is 
bad enough).


Another issue is that I strongly believe the use of Markdown in emails 
should nicely co-exist with `format=flowed`.



Would you like to co-author an RFC? :-)


No :)

Maybe the option you really need is for MailMate to only generate 
HTML if you use “non-trivial” Markdown.


That would be fine!


I think something like this is the best way forward. No promises though.

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Re: [MlMt] Rich Text (HTML) themes?

2024-07-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 3 Jul 2024, at 0:49, RANDY ABBOTT wrote:

> What is the difference between the themes listed under the "Default theme is" 
> dropdown and how do themes work?

The differences are still very subtle and mostly (only?) related to coloring of 
quoted content. It's unlikely to change before I also add a feature where the 
MailMate recipient can ignore/overrule any styling done by the sender.

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Re: [MlMt] Markdown Engines

2024-07-03 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 3 Jul 2024, at 9:30, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

> Interesting. How to place a footnote above the signature and an e-mail thread 
> that is included in a message? Even if I place the footnote text above the 
> signature MM puts it at the very end of the message body.

There's no way to do that right now. The entire email goes through the Markdown 
converter and this will place footnotes at the end. I don't think the Markdown 
syntax itself (CommonMark) provides any way to explicitly place the footnote, 
but I haven't actually checked.

I can think of ways to improve this, but it's not a high priority.

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Re: [MlMt] How to create a Mailbox Rule which extracts attachments

2024-07-03 Thread leo
On 1 Jul 2024, at 23:55, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> this is a relatively old thread, but I'd like to put some focus on a new 
> feature [...]

Thanks for coming back to this!

I will have a look at your suggestions.

Best,
Leo


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Re: [MlMt] Markdown Engines

2024-07-03 Thread Thomas Eckhold
Thank you for your feedback. This means that footnotes are only useful 
for new mails.


It is understood that the priority is on technical finesse, but the 
practicality and simplicity of simply writing messages should not be 
underestimated in an email client. Markdown in particular thrives on its 
simplicity and practicality. If it doesn't require too many changes, I 
for one would be glad if improvements for composing messages found their 
way to the top of the to-do list.


--Thomas



On 3 Jul 2024, at 22:06, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 3 Jul 2024, at 9:30, Thomas Eckhold wrote:

Interesting. How to place a footnote above the signature and an 
e-mail thread that is included in a message? Even if I place the 
footnote text above the signature MM puts it at the very end of the 
message body.


There's no way to do that right now. The entire email goes through the 
Markdown converter and this will place footnotes at the end. I don't 
think the Markdown syntax itself (CommonMark) provides any way to 
explicitly place the footnote, but I haven't actually checked.


I can think of ways to improve this, but it's not a high priority.

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