Re: [MlMt] Can signature be customized by folder?
On 24 Jan 2023, at 0:16, Robert Wall wrote: I have messages for one area of my life relegated to a folder. Senders auto-funnel to that folder via rules, but it's all part of one main email account. Is it possible for replies *to any message in that folder* to have a different email signature? Signature preferences only allow you to restrict a signature to a specific set of *sending* addresses, but this is likely not what you need here. But note that MailMate should learn your preference over time for each of these correspondents when you use the Signatures menu to select the signature. (That doesn't help if some of your correspondents are both inside and outside this folder.) -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] 5933: Dragging files into a folder => files are locked (immutable set)
On 7 Jan 2023, at 13:35, Robert M. Münch wrote: I see this effect I think since I use 5933. The change is in r5927 (November 10th, 2022). I do exactly the same as in the past, but now is looks like files are somehow locked by MM. Checking the file attributes I see that the *Immutable* flag is set. Is this a known problem? How to fix/workaround it? I can see this developed into a very large thread. Someone found the workaround, but I repeat it here to make sure it's more easily found: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmAttachmentsCacheImmutableStateDisabled -bool YES But it's only to be used by users who understand that attachments are saved in a *temporary* location which can be deleted at any time. It just doesn't happen very often. I can add that the change was motivated by a user working on a document for weeks (possibly hundreds of hours). The corresponding email was later deleted and MailMate cleaned up by also removing temporary files related to the email. Note that the cache is not part of a Time Machine backup. The file could not be salvaged. I have some notes on how this behavior could be improved, but the quick/safest fix was to simply disallow it. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Pasting text results in image - how to fix?
On 22 Jan 2023, at 0:42, Scott wrote: > But MailMate will almost always turn pasted text into an image. It'll only happen if the application putting it on the pasteboard added an image as well as text. I don't really know why any app would do that if it's really only text. (MailMate does not have any text to image conversion.) That said, I recall changing something related to Office apps (at least Excel and Word), but I'm not sure it works in other cases. Please try and see if the latest beta behaves differently (r5937). If not, I'll revisit the issue (right now, I've forgotten the details :) ). > I'm guessing there's extraneous information in the copied data which is > making MailMate assume I'm trying to paste binary content, perhaps. From the perspective of MailMate, you really are pasting binary data (an image). -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Latest Test Build 1.14 (5934)
On 20 Jan 2023, at 17:36, Henry Seiden wrote: > Recently updated from the previous version (5933) and noticed that certain > settings in compose were reset. No changes were done related to this (I think). > In particular my setting of signature preferences (reselected by using the > button at the top of the compose window. Do not yet know if it will ’stick’ > for future composing (enable message preview). > > Also, the local storage of links in formatted inline documents. It seems the > best approach to restore all settings would be to copy in all previous > settings, completely replacing all settings with what was used before. > > Did the M-M update when installing a new MacOS update (Ventura 13.2 RC), so > that may have something to do with it as well although it hasn’t before when > using the same technique. If rebuilding the MailMate database (refetching emails) then signature-related history won't survive. That likely explains some of the above. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] 5933: Dragging files into a folder => files are locked (immutable set)
Although not exactly the same issue I have recently witnessed that some attachements would have the invisible property set (on what I can only categorise as randomly). Can’t really reproduce it but definitely happens. On 26 Jan 2023, at 12:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 7 Jan 2023, at 13:35, Robert M. Münch wrote: I see this effect I think since I use 5933. The change is in r5927 (November 10th, 2022). I do exactly the same as in the past, but now is looks like files are somehow locked by MM. Checking the file attributes I see that the *Immutable* flag is set. Is this a known problem? How to fix/workaround it? I can see this developed into a very large thread. Someone found the workaround, but I repeat it here to make sure it's more easily found: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmAttachmentsCacheImmutableStateDisabled -bool YES But it's only to be used by users who understand that attachments are saved in a *temporary* location which can be deleted at any time. It just doesn't happen very often. I can add that the change was motivated by a user working on a document for weeks (possibly hundreds of hours). The corresponding email was later deleted and MailMate cleaned up by also removing temporary files related to the email. Note that the cache is not part of a Time Machine backup. The file could not be salvaged. I have some notes on how this behavior could be improved, but the quick/safest fix was to simply disallow it. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] 5933: Dragging files into a folder => files are locked (immutable set)
Actually, I think that the solution you adopted was correct even in principle: attachments are part of an inbound email message, and should not be overwritten. If nothing else, what if for some reason the message was refetched from the IMAP server? What if you look at the attachment from one device, which does its own IMAP fetches, after editing it on another? I'd always assumed that attachments were locked; I was glad when MailMate finally implemented it. On 26 Jan 2023, at 6:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 7 Jan 2023, at 13:35, Robert M. Münch wrote: I see this effect I think since I use 5933. The change is in r5927 (November 10th, 2022). I do exactly the same as in the past, but now is looks like files are somehow locked by MM. Checking the file attributes I see that the *Immutable* flag is set. Is this a known problem? How to fix/workaround it? I can see this developed into a very large thread. Someone found the workaround, but I repeat it here to make sure it's more easily found: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmAttachmentsCacheImmutableStateDisabled -bool YES But it's only to be used by users who understand that attachments are saved in a *temporary* location which can be deleted at any time. It just doesn't happen very often. I can add that the change was motivated by a user working on a document for weeks (possibly hundreds of hours). The corresponding email was later deleted and MailMate cleaned up by also removing temporary files related to the email. Note that the cache is not part of a Time Machine backup. The file could not be salvaged. I have some notes on how this behavior could be improved, but the quick/safest fix was to simply disallow it. -- Benny https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__freron.com_become-5Fa-5Fmailmate-5Fpatron_&d=DwIDaQ&c=009klHSCxuh5AI1vNQzSO0KGjl4nbi2Q0M1QLJX9BeE&r=jMObdJSnQpbSLekl2NjvrJVVxCKbmtg8cvi5143NF8Q&m=CVUdP8bBLz7fRhNlLBI-ZlHpQxtZBnKht5oCemq3-XPvK8y6raf-Ua5kpSo2unz8&s=aXCUwTv4z3dPfQejXS5T4fwYNpPguD6bxo9S4XBFA64&e=___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.freron.com_listinfo_mailmate&d=DwIGaQ&c=009klHSCxuh5AI1vNQzSO0KGjl4nbi2Q0M1QLJX9BeE&r=jMObdJSnQpbSLekl2NjvrJVVxCKbmtg8cvi5143NF8Q&m=CVUdP8bBLz7fRhNlLBI-ZlHpQxtZBnKht5oCemq3-XPvK8y6raf-Ua5kpSo2unz8&s=Y_VFN7KmNaHukVMnC6bkYIeo4tQuJ0NAJiiUq0lORIs&e= —Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Pasting text results in image - how to fix?
On 26 Jan 2023, at 12:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 22 Jan 2023, at 0:42, Scott wrote: It'll only happen if the application putting it on the pasteboard added an image as well as text. I don't really know why any app would do that if it's really only text. (MailMate does not have any text to image conversion.) That said, I recall changing something related to Office apps (at least Excel and Word), but I'm not sure it works in other cases. Please try and see if the latest beta behaves differently (r5937). If not, I'll revisit the issue (right now, I've forgotten the details :) ). Excel works indeed and you get a nice Markdown table. Pasting from Numbers (= Excel made by Apple) results in an image indeed. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Pasting text results in image - how to fix?
On 26 Jan 2023, at 11:18, Giovanni Lanzani wrote: > On 26 Jan 2023, at 12:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > >> On 22 Jan 2023, at 0:42, Scott wrote: >> >> >> It'll only happen if the application putting it on the pasteboard added an >> image as well as text. I don't really know why any app would do that if it's >> really only text. (MailMate does not have any text to image conversion.) >> >> That said, I recall changing something related to Office apps (at least >> Excel and Word), but I'm not sure it works in other cases. Please try and >> see if the latest beta behaves differently (r5937). If not, I'll revisit the >> issue (right now, I've forgotten the details :) ). >> > > Excel works indeed and you get a nice Markdown table. Pasting from Numbers (= > Excel made by Apple) results in an image indeed. Data copied from Word is structured and not just simple text. Many years ago, before I switched to MailMate, I did a copy-and-paste from Word into an Apple Mail message. To my surprise, it did the right thing with footnotes—it changed, say, a superscript 3 into a [3] in the message, and included the text of the footnote at the end of the pasted insert. Very convenient—but also messy for some programs. --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Pasting text results in image - how to fix?
On 26 Jan 2023, at 8:18, Giovanni Lanzani wrote: On 26 Jan 2023, at 12:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 22 Jan 2023, at 0:42, Scott wrote: It'll only happen if the application putting it on the pasteboard added an image as well as text. I don't really know why any app would do that if it's really only text. (MailMate does not have any text to image conversion.) That said, I recall changing something related to Office apps (at least Excel and Word), but I'm not sure it works in other cases. Please try and see if the latest beta behaves differently (r5937). If not, I'll revisit the issue (right now, I've forgotten the details :) ). Excel works indeed and you get a nice Markdown table. Pasting from Numbers (= Excel made by Apple) results in an image indeed. I run into this most often when pasting from Numbers. In my cases, I'm most often just copying one or two cells and wanting to paste them as plain text, so ending up as a markdown table would be extra work, but I can see that as being what's most often desired by users in general. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
