Re: [MlMt] Finer control of blacklist
On 21 Oct 2022, at 1:45, Henry Seiden wrote: I’m (un)lucky enough to have to filter many forms of junk mail including traditional spam, among several accounts. Four out of eight accounts have much more spam and much more activity, so I think that the more active with good (non spam mail) an account/source us the more junk you’ll get. If it is an option, maybe this is an option: I have some (lower traffic) mail addresses at different providers (I want to phase them out). Each of them will be directly redirected to my main (Fastmail) account. I also completley switched off all filters and spam filtering. At Fastmail I have set up an "Identity". When I send an message (new or as an reply) via one of my secondary adresses, Fastmail will send them to the other providers SMTP and from here it will go to the receiver. For the other one, it looks like a conversion with your secondary accound. In the mail header one can see the indirection. Filtering and Spam-Filtering (with strongest settings) is completely done by Fastmail. I have absolutely no problems with spam. It works perfectly for me. I don't know which providers also have the "identity" feature. Gmail has it. -- Best Regards Mike ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Finer control of blacklist
Mike, To your point MacOS has a similar idea in their settings but only for their iCloud accounts. It’s operating at the system level in MacOS, in “Hide My Email” settings. It establishes an alternate address (redirecting to that alternate address) for specific senders to specific iCloud email accounts. Since it doesn’t directly involve an app it should work automatically as well in MailMate. It may also work stand alone in iOS. BTW, I consider spam any incoming email I specifically did not request or agree to receive. That broad definition, encompassing things like accounts that don’t process unsubscribe, is far too broad to qualify in Fastmail, I suspect. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 23 Oct 2022, at 3:31, Mike Brasch wrote: At Fastmail I have set up an "Identity". When I send an message (new or as an reply) via one of my secondary adresses, Fastmail will send them to the other providers SMTP and from here it will go to the receiver. For the other one, it looks like a conversion with your secondary accound. In the mail header one can see the indirection. Filtering and Spam-Filtering (with strongest settings) is completely done by Fastmail. I have absolutely no problems with spam. It works perfectly for me.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Finer control of blacklist
On 23 Oct 2022, at 14:03, Henry Seiden wrote: Mike, To your point MacOS has a similar idea in their settings but only for their iCloud accounts. It’s operating at the system level in MacOS, in “Hide My Email” settings. It establishes an alternate address (redirecting to that alternate address) for specific senders to specific iCloud email accounts. Fastmail has with "Masked Email" a similar feature. 1Password has support for this feature. I don't know if other SW is supporting it. BTW, I consider spam any incoming email I specifically did not request or agree to receive. This is an unusual definition of spam. With this attidude, you will probably have not much success. It es difficould enough to detect "real" spam. How should it work with "perseived" spam? :) At Fastmail one can give an folder a ham-or-spam-hint to tell the spam filter in which category their contant is. The spam filter looks dayly through all folders to train itself. This works really good. I have no Idea, if this will work with your attidude. Maybe I will then tend to be hypersensitive. But maybe it will do what you want. That broad definition, encompassing things like accounts that don’t process unsubscribe, is far too broad to qualify in Fastmail, I suspect. I don't understand this. :) -- Best Regards Mike ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Finer control of blacklist
Mike, It was just a comment. I am VERY happy with SpamSieve. It does exactly what I want locally without further cost, extra work, expense or added accounts. And I can easily re-define my admittedly broad definition anytime I want, across all accounts or differently across each, the way it’s set up for me. SpamSieve is script-based. It also keeps great stats on how it’s doing filter-wise. As to my previous example, many subscriptions that I previously had subscribed to do have an option to “opt out” of receiving further email. However, in my experience it doesn’t work (on purpose?) or it resubscribes in a short time to something else, hence the more apt term for that is junk mail. The other nice thing about having the spam/junk/unwanted mail filtering locally on a separate desktop server-like environment is that my laptop/desktop main machine (MBP 18,3) is unencumbered by mail filtering especially when away from home/office or otherwise disconnected from the internet. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 23 Oct 2022, at 9:26, Mike Brasch wrote: That broad definition, encompassing things like accounts that don’t process unsubscribe, is far too broad to qualify in Fastmail, I suspect. I don't understand this. :)___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Block some adresses from "smart guess"
Hi On 21 Oct 2022, at 4:23, Glenn Parker wrote: Once you have entered the email address and it is in a blue bubble, there is a little “v” at the far right of the address that will activate a pull-down menu. One of the menu options is to “Add [address] to Blacklist”, which will prevent the auto-complete from using it in the future. Thanks for pointing out this feature - never noticed :)___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Gmail: Copying message to folder moves it instead?
Hi, With one Gmail account, when I copy a message from one folder to another (using Option+Drag&drop), the message is moved to the destination folder instead. This happens 99% of the time, but there is a small fraction of messages where they get copied over (as expected) instead. The behavior seems to be associated with a particular message — i.e. if a message exhibits "copy" or "move" behavior it will continue to do so, and I haven't been able to discern a pattern for how messages will behave. I didn't notice this behavior on a second Gmail account I had and messages were copied as expected. Comparing the settings of the two accounts I noticed that this second account had IMAP access disabled while the first, the misbehaving one, had IMAP access enabled. Turning off IMAP access fixed the issue. Is this expected? Regards -Tariq ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Gmail: Copying message to folder moves it instead?
> Turning off IMAP access fixed the issue. Scratch that. The IMAP setting didn't help. Regards, -Tariq On 23 Oct 2022, at 14:56, Tariq Magdon-Ismail wrote: > Hi, > > With one Gmail account, when I copy a message from one folder to another > (using Option+Drag&drop), the message is moved to the destination folder > instead. This happens 99% of the time, but there is a small fraction of > messages where they get copied over (as expected) instead. The behavior seems > to be associated with a particular message — i.e. if a message exhibits > "copy" or "move" behavior it will continue to do so, and I haven't been able > to discern a pattern for how messages will behave. > > I didn't notice this behavior on a second Gmail account I had and messages > were copied as expected. Comparing the settings of the two accounts I noticed > that this second account had IMAP access disabled while the first, the > misbehaving one, had IMAP access enabled. Turning off IMAP access fixed the > issue. > > Is this expected? > > Regards > -Tariq ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Precedence of message list colors
Hi, When setting colors via the "Use Color in Message List" mailbox option, I was wondering what the precedence is. For example, I have set the color for my Gmail "account" under Sources to green so that I can distinguish its messages from the other accounts. I also have a "To Me" Smart Mailbox for all messages that are addressed "To" me, and I've set the message list color to blue. I have yet another "VIP" Smart Mailbox for particular senders with the color set to orange. When I look at the messages in the "Inbox" things look as I would expect: - All Gmail messages are green - Of those, ones addressed to me are blue - And the ones from VIP senders are orange. In a "unified" smart mailbox, how does MailMate determine the coloring of a message when the message is contained in two other mailboxes with conflicting colors? Thanks in advance, -Tariq ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
