Re: [MlMt] Scrolling of message contents gets "stuck"

2022-03-01 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 28 Feb 2022, at 19:06, Eric Sharakan wrote:

> On 28 Feb 2022, at 12:59, Steve Burling wrote:
>
>>> When this happens, it's likely sufficient to resize the window a bit to 
>>> trigger another update.
>
> I just encountered this symptom again, and resizing the window did NOT help.

I should have been more precise: It likely requires resizing in a way that 
changes the height of the message, e.g., if a line needs to be wrapped. But 
maybe I'm wrong.

In any case, I did locate and fix a bug which could explain this issue. Please 
try r5875.

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Re: [MlMt] Scrolling of message contents gets "stuck"

2022-03-01 Thread Henry Seiden

Benny,

With r5875 I have a new problem… “Ridiculously long signature 
error,” detected by SMTP Server (AWS). I’m reverting to old version 
to compare on the same account and email previously sent, but to my 
gmail account to sample the error.


Respectfully,

Henry Seiden

Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 1 Mar 2022, at 8:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 28 Feb 2022, at 19:06, Eric Sharakan wrote:


On 28 Feb 2022, at 12:59, Steve Burling wrote:

When this happens, it's likely sufficient to resize the window a 
bit to trigger another update.


I just encountered this symptom again, and resizing the window did 
NOT help.


I should have been more precise: It likely requires resizing in a way 
that changes the height of the message, e.g., if a line needs to be 
wrapped. But maybe I'm wrong.


In any case, I did locate and fix a bug which could explain this 
issue. Please try r5875.


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Re: [MlMt] Scrolling of message contents gets "stuck"

2022-03-01 Thread Charlie Clark
On 1 Mar 2022, at 14:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> I should have been more precise: It likely requires resizing in a way that 
> changes the height of the message, e.g., if a line needs to be wrapped. But 
> maybe I'm wrong.
>
> In any case, I did locate and fix a bug which could explain this issue. 
> Please try r5875.

Hiya Benny,

not sure if this is relevant but rendering HTML seems to be pretty slow. I 
occasionally have to switch to HTML to view a message and when I did this this 
morning with a change to PayPal's T&Cs it was a bit like watching treacle. It 
is a very long e-mail but still feels unusually slow (same in 5875 as in 5874). 
Let me know if you want the original e-mail.

Charlie

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Re: [MlMt] Scrolling of message contents gets "stuck"

2022-03-01 Thread Henry Seiden

Benny,

With r5875 I have a new problem with this build… “Ridiculously long 
signature error,” detected by SMTP Server (AWS). I’m reverting to 
old version to compare on the same account and email previously sent, 
but to my gmail account to sample the error.


Since I am limited by space for attachments, I can send you a raw header 
example (attachment, not enclosed), showing the problem that’s being 
grabbed by AWS SES servers. However I would have to do so to a different 
address if you provide me with one. Speculating, I assume it’s 
actually sticking all or part of the message body content into the 
signature Markup to cause it to swell to that extent.


Since they did not say that the message was returned or trapped, I 
assume it’s being delivered with the warning in place. Reverted back 
to the previous build and tried it again to a Gmail account and there 
was no trapping error returned to me. I therefore conclude it’s 
something within your latest update causing it. So, until you un-revise 
the Test Build, will not use 5875. The scrolling issue on reading 
messages was NOT a problem for me anyway.



Respectfully,

Henry Seiden

Techworks Pro Co.
E: infotechworksprocom
W: http://techworkspro.com

On 1 Mar 2022, at 8:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 28 Feb 2022, at 19:06, Eric Sharakan wrote:


On 28 Feb 2022, at 12:59, Steve Burling wrote:

When this happens, it's likely sufficient to resize the window a 
bit to trigger another update.


I just encountered this symptom again, and resizing the window did 
NOT help.


I should have been more precise: It likely requires resizing in a way 
that changes the height of the message, e.g., if a line needs to be 
wrapped. But maybe I'm wrong.


In any case, I did locate and fix a bug which could explain this 
issue. Please try r5875.


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[MlMt] How can I save the HTML part of an email so that I can open in a browser or text editor?

2022-03-01 Thread Quinn Comendant
The previous email program I used (Gyazmail) would consider the HTML part of an 
email as any other attachment, and would let me save the HTML part by 
drag-and-dropping it to my desktop. Is there any way to save the HTML part of 
an email in MailMate?

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[MlMt] duplicate sent mail

2022-03-01 Thread Zvi Biener

Hi All,

My Send Item mailbox on an Exchange account seems to have a duplicate of 
each message I have sent. I'm not sure how to trouble shoot. As with all 
things mailmate, I'm afraid I turned on some feature ages ago, and I 
just don't remember...


At any rate, the raw headers seem to be different. One with much more 
info than the other. Any ideas? Headers below.

Thanks,
Zvi

Received: from [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] (:xxx) by
 CH2PR01MB5752.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:610:48::27) with
Microsoft
 SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2,   
cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id
 15.20.5038.14 via Mailbox Transport; Tue, 1 Mar 2022 19:15:10 
+

From: xxx 
To: xxx
Subject: xxx
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:15:09 -0500
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5875)
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_="
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationStartTime: 01 Mar 2022 
19:15:11.0184

 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationStartTimeReason: 
OriginalSubmit

X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationInterval: 1:00:00:00.000
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationIntervalReason: OriginalSubmit
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-Network-Message-Id:
 ff9308a4-ab2d-4eeb-98d0-08d9fbb7ce68
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: 
CH2PR01MB5752.prod.exchangelabs. com

X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthMechanism: 14
X-ClientProxiedBy: CH0P223CA0014.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
 (2603:10b6:610:116::18) To CH2PR01MB5752.prod.exchangelabs.com
 (2603:10b6:610:48::27)
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: Originating
Return-Path: 
MIME-Version: 1.0

--=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_=
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; markup=markdown

The other

From: xxx
To: xxx
Subject: xxx
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:15:09 -0500
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5875)
Message-ID: 
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_="


--=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_=
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; markup=markdown

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Re: [MlMt] duplicate sent mail

2022-03-01 Thread Pete Resnick via mailmate
This is a known issue: Mailmate moves the message from Drafts to Sent 
after you send it (that's the one with few headers), and then Exchange 
"helpfully" puts a copy of all outgoing mail into Sent as well. I have 
simply made a smart "In/Out" mailbox to show me messages where "From is 
not me" or "Received does not exist", which hides all of the Exchange 
copies.


pr

On 1 Mar 2022, at 13:55, Zvi Biener wrote:


Hi All,

My Send Item mailbox on an Exchange account seems to have a duplicate 
of each message I have sent. I'm not sure how to trouble shoot. As 
with all things mailmate, I'm afraid I turned on some feature ages 
ago, and I just don't remember...


At any rate, the raw headers seem to be different. One with much more 
info than the other. Any ideas? Headers below.

Thanks,
Zvi

Received: from [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] (:xxx) by
 CH2PR01MB5752.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:610:48::27) with   
 Microsoft
 SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2,   
cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id
 15.20.5038.14 via Mailbox Transport; Tue, 1 Mar 2022 19:15:10 
+

From: xxx 
To: xxx
Subject: xxx
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:15:09 -0500
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5875)
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_="
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationStartTime: 01 Mar 2022 
19:15:11.0184

 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationStartTimeReason: 
OriginalSubmit

X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationInterval: 1:00:00:00.000
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationIntervalReason: 
OriginalSubmit

X-MS-Exchange-Organization-Network-Message-Id:
 ff9308a4-ab2d-4eeb-98d0-08d9fbb7ce68
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: 
CH2PR01MB5752.prod.exchangelabs. com

X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthMechanism: 14
X-ClientProxiedBy: CH0P223CA0014.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
 (2603:10b6:610:116::18) To CH2PR01MB5752.prod.exchangelabs.com
 (2603:10b6:610:48::27)
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: Originating
Return-Path: 
MIME-Version: 1.0

--=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_=
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; markup=markdown

The other

From: xxx
To: xxx
Subject: xxx
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:15:09 -0500
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5875)
Message-ID: 
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_="


--=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_=
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; markup=markdown

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Re: [MlMt] duplicate sent mail

2022-03-01 Thread Zvi Biener

Thanks. I had a vague memory of this. Thanks.

On 1 Mar 2022, at 15:00, Pete Resnick via mailmate wrote:

This is a known issue: Mailmate moves the message from Drafts to Sent 
after you send it (that's the one with few headers), and then Exchange 
"helpfully" puts a copy of all outgoing mail into Sent as well. I have 
simply made a smart "In/Out" mailbox to show me messages where "From 
is not me" or "Received does not exist", which hides all of the 
Exchange copies.


pr

On 1 Mar 2022, at 13:55, Zvi Biener wrote:


Hi All,

My Send Item mailbox on an Exchange account seems to have a duplicate 
of each message I have sent. I'm not sure how to trouble shoot. As 
with all things mailmate, I'm afraid I turned on some feature ages 
ago, and I just don't remember...


At any rate, the raw headers seem to be different. One with much more 
info than the other. Any ideas? Headers below.

Thanks,
Zvi

Received: from [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] (:xxx) by
 CH2PR01MB5752.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:610:48::27) with  
  Microsoft
 SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2,   
cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id
 15.20.5038.14 via Mailbox Transport; Tue, 1 Mar 2022 19:15:10 
+

From: xxx 
To: xxx
Subject: xxx
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:15:09 -0500
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5875)
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_="
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationStartTime: 01 Mar 2022 
19:15:11.0184

 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationStartTimeReason: 
OriginalSubmit

X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationInterval: 1:00:00:00.000
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-ExpirationIntervalReason: 
OriginalSubmit

X-MS-Exchange-Organization-Network-Message-Id:
 ff9308a4-ab2d-4eeb-98d0-08d9fbb7ce68
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: 
CH2PR01MB5752.prod.exchangelabs. com

X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthMechanism: 14
X-ClientProxiedBy: CH0P223CA0014.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
 (2603:10b6:610:116::18) To CH2PR01MB5752.prod.exchangelabs.com
 (2603:10b6:610:48::27)
X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: Originating
Return-Path: 
MIME-Version: 1.0

--=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_=
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; markup=markdown

The other

From: xxx
To: xxx
Subject: xxx
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:15:09 -0500
X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5875)
Message-ID: 
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_="


--=_MailMate_8E9AC5F9-A4E0-4214-8BBE-0BAB741A56FA_=
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; markup=markdown

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Re: [MlMt] How can I save the HTML part of an email so that I can open in a browser or text editor?

2022-03-01 Thread Robert Brenstein
Not direct save but you could change view to “Show HTML Source”, 
copy the text, paste into a text editor, save.


On 1 Mar 2022, at 17:41, Quinn Comendant wrote:

The previous email program I used (Gyazmail) would consider the HTML 
part of an email as any other attachment, and would let me save the 
HTML part by drag-and-dropping it to my desktop. Is there any way to 
save the HTML part of an email in MailMate?


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Re: [MlMt] How can I save the HTML part of an email so that I can open in a browser or text editor?

2022-03-01 Thread Bill Cole

On 2022-03-01 at 17:30:16 UTC-0500 (Tue, 01 Mar 2022 23:30:16 +0100)
Robert Brenstein 
is rumored to have said:

Not direct save but you could change view to “Show HTML Source”, 
copy the text, paste into a text editor, save.


That doesn't give you the original HTML part of a multipart message, but 
the HTML generated by MM to display any message, even messages that are 
sent as pure plain text.


To get the HTML part of a multipart (or pure HTML) message, you need to 
use "Show Raw Message" and snip out the text of the HTML part. It will 
start with something like this:


--=_Random_Meaningless_Unique_Boundary_String_=
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable





And end like this:




--=_Random_Meaningless_Unique_Boundary_String_=--




On 1 Mar 2022, at 17:41, Quinn Comendant wrote:

The previous email program I used (Gyazmail) would consider the HTML 
part of an email as any other attachment, and would let me save the 
HTML part by drag-and-dropping it to my desktop. Is there any way to 
save the HTML part of an email in MailMate?


Regards,
Quinn

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Re: [MlMt] How can I save the HTML part of an email so that I can open in a browser or text editor?

2022-03-01 Thread Quinn Comendant
Thanks for both of your suggestions:

> Not direct save but you could change view to “Show HTML Source”, […]

Bill's correct, that won't give me access to the raw HTML.

> To get the HTML part of a multipart (or pure HTML) message, you need to use 
> "Show Raw Message" […]

That's what I've been doing, but it's not convenient because the raw email part 
will be either base64 or quoted-printable encoded, which is not easy to decode. 
Base64 is easy to decode, but it seems to be less common. I'm not sure how to 
decode quoted-printable correctly.

The reason I want to extract HTML messages is to analyze them to improve the 
spam filtering on the mail servers I manage, and it's really useful to be able 
to access the html.

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Re: [MlMt] How can I save the HTML part of an email so that I can open in a browser or text editor?

2022-03-01 Thread Charlie Clark
On 2 Mar 2022, at 3:20, Quinn Comendant wrote:

> That's what I've been doing, but it's not convenient because the raw email 
> part will be either base64 or quoted-printable encoded, which is not easy to 
> decode. Base64 is easy to decode, but it seems to be less common. I'm not 
> sure how to decode quoted-printable correctly.
>
> The reason I want to extract HTML messages is to analyze them to improve the 
> spam filtering on the mail servers I manage, and it's really useful to be 
> able to access the html.

You might want to look at how the plugins work. The e-mails themselves should 
be available as text files and lots of programming languages have e-mail 
processing libraries that you could pass the e-mails to. This would let you 
strip out the HTML for further processing.

Charlie

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