Re: [MlMt] Printing of a message
On 21 Feb 2022, at 13:07, Henry Seiden wrote: > For me (similarly) on Mac OS 12.2.1 and version 1.14 Build 5871, the print > dialog doesn’t open at all first with the message and a reply selected, like > Benny’s reply. With only Benny’s reply selected it will open twice > frequently, but inconsistency. Let me know if you also see this behavior with r5872. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Printing of a message
First observation after initial tests: printing works normal again. Thank you! Thomas On 22 Feb 2022, at 16:48, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 21 Feb 2022, at 13:07, Henry Seiden wrote: > >> For me (similarly) on Mac OS 12.2.1 and version 1.14 Build 5871, the print >> dialog doesn’t open at all first with the message and a reply selected, like >> Benny’s reply. With only Benny’s reply selected it will open twice >> frequently, but inconsistency. > > Let me know if you also see this behavior with r5872. > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Printing of a message
Benny, Thomas: Likewise with me. Thanks for addressing this. Just tried opening the Print dialog twice with a couple of messages. OK here under the same conditions. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Feb 2022, at 10:52, Thomas Eckhold wrote: First observation after initial tests: printing works normal again. Thank you! Thomas On 22 Feb 2022, at 16:48, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 21 Feb 2022, at 13:07, Henry Seiden wrote: For me (similarly) on Mac OS 12.2.1 and version 1.14 Build 5871, the print dialog doesn’t open at all first with the message and a reply selected, like Benny’s reply. With only Benny’s reply selected it will open twice frequently, but inconsistency. Let me know if you also see this behavior with r5872. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to set columns and sort for all list views?
I've still been breaking my brain with the inconsistency of columns and sort in MailMate. Today I discovered the state is saved in the MailMate preferences, under `MmMailboxRelatedStates`, where *each view has its own column settings*. This shows clearly that this is a feature not a bug. It's an undesirable behavior for me, so I googled this and found some old threads [[1]](https://mailmate.freron.narkive.com/0wbncv72/mlmt-revert-to-default-columns-revert-to-different-columns-depending-on-mailbox)[[2]](https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2017-June/008297.html) on the mailing list that suggest I can quit MailMate, delete this preference key by running the following `defaults` command in the terminal, then re-configure my default view: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates After relaunching MailMate, I selected the top-most view of my IMAP account, set the columns how I want, then selected “Use as Default Columns”. This worked! It didn't apply to Drafts, Sent, or Spam folders, but all other folders now have the default columns applied. However, I still don't see a way to reset the sort preferences in the same way. For example, every time I switch from Widescreen Layout to Correspondence Layout, the list of correspondence is sorted with newest messages at the bottom. Is there a way to set newest messages at the top for all views, everywhere, always? Quinn On 2 Jan 2022, at 22:34, Quinn Comendant wrote: On 2 Jan 2022, at 19:07, Bob Stern via mailmate wrote: What version of MMt are you using? I'm using version 1.14 (5853) on macOS 12.1, 2021 M1 Pro MBP. I can reproduce this issue as follows: 1. Open my Inbox by clicking the Inbox folder icon in the left sidebar. 2. Apply some arbitrary column settings, e.g., right-click a column header and show UID and move it to be the leftmost column. 3. Right-click a column header and select "Use as Default Columns". 4. Navigate to a different folder (click in the left sidebar). 5. The new column settings that I saved are not displayed there. Also, if I right-click on a column header the "Revert to Default Columns" option is disabled. I'm expecting an easy (or immediate, with no action required) method to have my column settings apply to all folders. Instead, I have to set my column preferences manually for each folder. I've resigned to just using the basic columns that are set with MailMate out-of-the-box, since it's too much effort to change them for each folder individually. Maybe I'm overlooking how it should work. Thanks, Quinn On 31 Dec 2021, at 19:36, Quinn Comendant wrote: Hi all, I've been using MailMate a couple weeks now, so far I'm completely in love with it. I've encountered one bothersome behavior: when I change the view of the message list (by selecting a different folder, doing a search, or e.g., selecting “Find Messages From u...@example.com”, the columns and sorting of the message list changes, forcing me to re-configure the columns and sort. I want a the columns Read, Flag, Tags, From, Subject, Date Received, and Size, and I want the list sorted by Date with the newest messages at top; but whenever I change views, the oldest message is at the top. I found the option when I right-click on a column header to “Use as Default Columns” but it doesn't seem to do anything; those defaults do not seem to propagate to the other list views. How can I set my preferred list view settings for all list views everywhere, forever? 🥺 Thanks, Quinn___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to set columns and sort for all list views?
Quinn, Don’t know if you’re interested, but I’m using the developer build, on advice from Benny. I’m aware that sorting and views are fluid aspects of MailMate, you should know that Develop Builds are available by holding down option key when checking the menu: Mailmate. The “Check for Update” changes to “Test Build”. Benny is much more responsive to making changes on that Build. OTOH, it may be less to your liking with the new features he’s testing out there. Just thought you might want to know. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Feb 2022, at 15:55, Quinn Comendant wrote: I've still been breaking my brain with the inconsistency of columns and sort in MailMate. Today I discovered the state is saved in the MailMate preferences, under `MmMailboxRelatedStates`, where *each view has its own column settings*. This shows clearly that this is a feature not a bug. It's an undesirable behavior for me, so I googled this and found some old threads [[1]](https://mailmate.freron.narkive.com/0wbncv72/mlmt-revert-to-default-columns-revert-to-different-columns-depending-on-mailbox)[[2]](https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2017-June/008297.html) on the mailing list that suggest I can quit MailMate, delete this preference key by running the following `defaults` command in the terminal, then re-configure my default view: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates After relaunching MailMate, I selected the top-most view of my IMAP account, set the columns how I want, then selected “Use as Default Columns”. This worked! It didn't apply to Drafts, Sent, or Spam folders, but all other folders now have the default columns applied. However, I still don't see a way to reset the sort preferences in the same way. For example, every time I switch from Widescreen Layout to Correspondence Layout, the list of correspondence is sorted with newest messages at the bottom. Is there a way to set newest messages at the top for all views, everywhere, always? Quinn On 2 Jan 2022, at 22:34, Quinn Comendant wrote: On 2 Jan 2022, at 19:07, Bob Stern via mailmate wrote: What version of MMt are you using? I'm using version 1.14 (5853) on macOS 12.1, 2021 M1 Pro MBP. I can reproduce this issue as follows: 1. Open my Inbox by clicking the Inbox folder icon in the left sidebar. 2. Apply some arbitrary column settings, e.g., right-click a column header and show UID and move it to be the leftmost column. 3. Right-click a column header and select "Use as Default Columns". 4. Navigate to a different folder (click in the left sidebar). 5. The new column settings that I saved are not displayed there. Also, if I right-click on a column header the "Revert to Default Columns" option is disabled. I'm expecting an easy (or immediate, with no action required) method to have my column settings apply to all folders. Instead, I have to set my column preferences manually for each folder. I've resigned to just using the basic columns that are set with MailMate out-of-the-box, since it's too much effort to change them for each folder individually. Maybe I'm overlooking how it should work. Thanks, Quinn On 31 Dec 2021, at 19:36, Quinn Comendant wrote: Hi all, I've been using MailMate a couple weeks now, so far I'm completely in love with it. I've encountered one bothersome behavior: when I change the view of the message list (by selecting a different folder, doing a search, or e.g., selecting “Find Messages From u...@example.com”, the columns and sorting of the message list changes, forcing me to re-configure the columns and sort. I want a the columns Read, Flag, Tags, From, Subject, Date Received, and Size, and I want the list sorted by Date with the newest messages at top; but whenever I change views, the oldest message is at the top. I found the option when I right-click on a column header to “Use as Default Columns” but it doesn't seem to do anything; those defaults do not seem to propagate to the other list views. How can I set my preferred list view settings for all list views everywhere, forever? 🥺 Thanks, Quinn ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to set columns and sort for all list views?
Thanks for the reminder, Henry. I've been using a test build from a few weeks ago. I'll set reminders to update every week. I read the recent release notes, but didn't see any mention of improvements related to columns and sort configuration; is there a specific new feature you think would help me in a recent build? Very best regards, Quinn On 22 Feb 2022, at 15:10, Henry Seiden wrote: Quinn, Don’t know if you’re interested, but I’m using the developer build, on advice from Benny. I’m aware that sorting and views are fluid aspects of MailMate, you should know that Develop Builds are available by holding down option key when checking the menu: Mailmate. The “Check for Update” changes to “Test Build”. Benny is much more responsive to making changes on that Build. OTOH, it may be less to your liking with the new features he’s testing out there. Just thought you might want to know. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Feb 2022, at 15:55, Quinn Comendant wrote: I've still been breaking my brain with the inconsistency of columns and sort in MailMate. Today I discovered the state is saved in the MailMate preferences, under `MmMailboxRelatedStates`, where *each view has its own column settings*. This shows clearly that this is a feature not a bug. It's an undesirable behavior for me, so I googled this and found some old threads [[1]](https://mailmate.freron.narkive.com/0wbncv72/mlmt-revert-to-default-columns-revert-to-different-columns-depending-on-mailbox)[[2]](https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2017-June/008297.html) on the mailing list that suggest I can quit MailMate, delete this preference key by running the following `defaults` command in the terminal, then re-configure my default view: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates After relaunching MailMate, I selected the top-most view of my IMAP account, set the columns how I want, then selected “Use as Default Columns”. This worked! It didn't apply to Drafts, Sent, or Spam folders, but all other folders now have the default columns applied. However, I still don't see a way to reset the sort preferences in the same way. For example, every time I switch from Widescreen Layout to Correspondence Layout, the list of correspondence is sorted with newest messages at the bottom. Is there a way to set newest messages at the top for all views, everywhere, always? Quinn On 2 Jan 2022, at 22:34, Quinn Comendant wrote: On 2 Jan 2022, at 19:07, Bob Stern via mailmate wrote: What version of MMt are you using? I'm using version 1.14 (5853) on macOS 12.1, 2021 M1 Pro MBP. I can reproduce this issue as follows: 1. Open my Inbox by clicking the Inbox folder icon in the left sidebar. 2. Apply some arbitrary column settings, e.g., right-click a column header and show UID and move it to be the leftmost column. 3. Right-click a column header and select "Use as Default Columns". 4. Navigate to a different folder (click in the left sidebar). 5. The new column settings that I saved are not displayed there. Also, if I right-click on a column header the "Revert to Default Columns" option is disabled. I'm expecting an easy (or immediate, with no action required) method to have my column settings apply to all folders. Instead, I have to set my column preferences manually for each folder. I've resigned to just using the basic columns that are set with MailMate out-of-the-box, since it's too much effort to change them for each folder individually. Maybe I'm overlooking how it should work. Thanks, Quinn On 31 Dec 2021, at 19:36, Quinn Comendant wrote: Hi all, I've been using MailMate a couple weeks now, so far I'm completely in love with it. I've encountered one bothersome behavior: when I change the view of the message list (by selecting a different folder, doing a search, or e.g., selecting “Find Messages From u...@example.com”, the columns and sorting of the message list changes, forcing me to re-configure the columns and sort. I want a the columns Read, Flag, Tags, From, Subject, Date Received, and Size, and I want the list sorted by Date with the newest messages at top; but whenever I change views, the oldest message is at the top. I found the option when I right-click on a column header to “Use as Default Columns” but it doesn't seem to do anything; those defaults do not seem to propagate to the other list views. How can I set my preferred list view settings for all list views everywhere, forever? 🥺 Thanks, Quinn ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.frer
[MlMt] untitled mailboxen undeletable
this is on a outlook.office365.com account (don't ask). i get untitled empty mailboxes that i can not delete. they are often 'failed' or 'offline'. i can take offline, take offline, and then remove. 15 minutes later, they are all back, marked 'failed'. any clues on how to remove? randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Build 5871: Setting date sorting parameters(^) and columns in, folders/sub-folders in the Left Bar
Hello All, I made two interesting discoveries that seems undocumented in the Help Menus in this Build. It seems interesting that it isn’t mentioned, but it seems to hold true in all tabs affecting settings of sub-tabs within tabs of settings like columns adding or deleting them and setting the ordering parameter (E.G., sorting early to later or vice-versa). Also found a specific exception which you may also find interesting. Case 1: You have or have created a folder like “Archive” (in my case I renamed it to All Archive 2022 for reasons unimportant but obvious). In that folder there are default columns or added columns. Within that group there are several Account folders with messages: 1. You add a new column to this top level folder. The change is reflected to all of the sub folders automagically. I can find no rules or setting methods to affect this change in the default settings, it just happens. The only exception I can find, is that the position of the column at the end of the list of columns by default may be respecified in the sub-columns or changed in any sub-folder to whatever you want independently from the main column or other sub-folders after the main folder changes. Kind of like a hierarchical ordering setting. 2. Likewise a setting to the top level folder in terms of date ordering - oldest to newest or vice-versa will affect all the sub-folders, except where the subfolder was previously set differently. Case 2: Changes made to top level folders in other terms, in the View>Layout Menu MAY similarly affect sub-folders, but not the reverse. If Benny used the same logic, it may explain so of the random looking effects reported here. I tried out Case 1. above for my own folders and found it works between all my top level and (each of) their sub-folders as described. Maybe whomever is documenting the help menu can confirm and document these changes along with the respective folder actions. Perhaps it would explain anomalies reported here on sorting and columns. I leave Case 2 to others to confirm. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to set columns and sort for all list views?
Hey Quinn, See my recent post about column hierarchy and date sorting issues. It go towards an explanation of what you are seeing too. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Feb 2022, at 15:55, Quinn Comendant wrote: I've still been breaking my brain with the inconsistency of columns and sort in MailMate. Today I discovered the state is saved in the MailMate preferences, under `MmMailboxRelatedStates`, where *each view has its own column settings*. This shows clearly that this is a feature not a bug. It's an undesirable behavior for me, so I googled this and found some old threads [[1]](https://mailmate.freron.narkive.com/0wbncv72/mlmt-revert-to-default-columns-revert-to-different-columns-depending-on-mailbox)[[2]](https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2017-June/008297.html) on the mailing list that suggest I can quit MailMate, delete this preference key by running the following `defaults` command in the terminal, then re-configure my default view: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates After relaunching MailMate, I selected the top-most view of my IMAP account, set the columns how I want, then selected “Use as Default Columns”. This worked! It didn't apply to Drafts, Sent, or Spam folders, but all other folders now have the default columns applied. However, I still don't see a way to reset the sort preferences in the same way. For example, every time I switch from Widescreen Layout to Correspondence Layout, the list of correspondence is sorted with newest messages at the bottom. Is there a way to set newest messages at the top for all views, everywhere, always? Quinn On 2 Jan 2022, at 22:34, Quinn Comendant wrote: On 2 Jan 2022, at 19:07, Bob Stern via mailmate wrote: What version of MMt are you using? I'm using version 1.14 (5853) on macOS 12.1, 2021 M1 Pro MBP. I can reproduce this issue as follows: 1. Open my Inbox by clicking the Inbox folder icon in the left sidebar. 2. Apply some arbitrary column settings, e.g., right-click a column header and show UID and move it to be the leftmost column. 3. Right-click a column header and select "Use as Default Columns". 4. Navigate to a different folder (click in the left sidebar). 5. The new column settings that I saved are not displayed there. Also, if I right-click on a column header the "Revert to Default Columns" option is disabled. I'm expecting an easy (or immediate, with no action required) method to have my column settings apply to all folders. Instead, I have to set my column preferences manually for each folder. I've resigned to just using the basic columns that are set with MailMate out-of-the-box, since it's too much effort to change them for each folder individually. Maybe I'm overlooking how it should work. Thanks, Quinn On 31 Dec 2021, at 19:36, Quinn Comendant wrote: Hi all, I've been using MailMate a couple weeks now, so far I'm completely in love with it. I've encountered one bothersome behavior: when I change the view of the message list (by selecting a different folder, doing a search, or e.g., selecting “Find Messages From u...@example.com”, the columns and sorting of the message list changes, forcing me to re-configure the columns and sort. I want a the columns Read, Flag, Tags, From, Subject, Date Received, and Size, and I want the list sorted by Date with the newest messages at top; but whenever I change views, the oldest message is at the top. I found the option when I right-click on a column header to “Use as Default Columns” but it doesn't seem to do anything; those defaults do not seem to propagate to the other list views. How can I set my preferred list view settings for all list views everywhere, forever? 🥺 Thanks, Quinn ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How to set columns and sort for all list views?
Thanks, I [found it](https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2022-February/015144.html). I can confirm setting the column and sort for a top-level folder is inherited by all subfolders. The only place this doesn't work is when viewing Layout → Correspondence, where Date Received is always sorted oldest first. Quinn On 22 Feb 2022, at 19:32, Henry Seiden wrote: Hey Quinn, See my recent post about column hierarchy and date sorting issues. It go towards an explanation of what you are seeing too. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Feb 2022, at 15:55, Quinn Comendant wrote: I've still been breaking my brain with the inconsistency of columns and sort in MailMate. Today I discovered the state is saved in the MailMate preferences, under `MmMailboxRelatedStates`, where *each view has its own column settings*. This shows clearly that this is a feature not a bug. It's an undesirable behavior for me, so I googled this and found some old threads [[1]](https://mailmate.freron.narkive.com/0wbncv72/mlmt-revert-to-default-columns-revert-to-different-columns-depending-on-mailbox)[[2]](https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2017-June/008297.html) on the mailing list that suggest I can quit MailMate, delete this preference key by running the following `defaults` command in the terminal, then re-configure my default view: defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates After relaunching MailMate, I selected the top-most view of my IMAP account, set the columns how I want, then selected “Use as Default Columns”. This worked! It didn't apply to Drafts, Sent, or Spam folders, but all other folders now have the default columns applied. However, I still don't see a way to reset the sort preferences in the same way. For example, every time I switch from Widescreen Layout to Correspondence Layout, the list of correspondence is sorted with newest messages at the bottom. Is there a way to set newest messages at the top for all views, everywhere, always? Quinn On 2 Jan 2022, at 22:34, Quinn Comendant wrote: On 2 Jan 2022, at 19:07, Bob Stern via mailmate wrote: What version of MMt are you using? I'm using version 1.14 (5853) on macOS 12.1, 2021 M1 Pro MBP. I can reproduce this issue as follows: 1. Open my Inbox by clicking the Inbox folder icon in the left sidebar. 2. Apply some arbitrary column settings, e.g., right-click a column header and show UID and move it to be the leftmost column. 3. Right-click a column header and select "Use as Default Columns". 4. Navigate to a different folder (click in the left sidebar). 5. The new column settings that I saved are not displayed there. Also, if I right-click on a column header the "Revert to Default Columns" option is disabled. I'm expecting an easy (or immediate, with no action required) method to have my column settings apply to all folders. Instead, I have to set my column preferences manually for each folder. I've resigned to just using the basic columns that are set with MailMate out-of-the-box, since it's too much effort to change them for each folder individually. Maybe I'm overlooking how it should work. Thanks, Quinn On 31 Dec 2021, at 19:36, Quinn Comendant wrote: Hi all, I've been using MailMate a couple weeks now, so far I'm completely in love with it. I've encountered one bothersome behavior: when I change the view of the message list (by selecting a different folder, doing a search, or e.g., selecting “Find Messages From u...@example.com”, the columns and sorting of the message list changes, forcing me to re-configure the columns and sort. I want a the columns Read, Flag, Tags, From, Subject, Date Received, and Size, and I want the list sorted by Date with the newest messages at top; but whenever I change views, the oldest message is at the top. I found the option when I right-click on a column header to “Use as Default Columns” but it doesn't seem to do anything; those defaults do not seem to propagate to the other list views. How can I set my preferred list view settings for all list views everywhere, forever? 🥺 Thanks, Quinn ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Build 5871: Setting date sorting parameters(^) and columns in, folders/sub-folders in the Left Bar
Hi Henry, I can confirm setting the column and sort for a top-level folder is inherited by all subfolders. I'm not sure it if helped that ran `defaults delete -app MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates` first. The only place this doesn't work is when viewing Layout → Correspondence, where Date Received is always sorted oldest first, no matter how that column is sorted anywhere else. This feels like a bug, if the above is meant to be the new standard behavior. Quinn On 22 Feb 2022, at 19:28, Henry Seiden wrote: Hello All, I made two interesting discoveries that seems undocumented in the Help Menus in this Build. It seems interesting that it isn’t mentioned, but it seems to hold true in all tabs affecting settings of sub-tabs within tabs of settings like columns adding or deleting them and setting the ordering parameter (E.G., sorting early to later or vice-versa). Also found a specific exception which you may also find interesting. Case 1: You have or have created a folder like “Archive” (in my case I renamed it to All Archive 2022 for reasons unimportant but obvious). In that folder there are default columns or added columns. Within that group there are several Account folders with messages: 1. You add a new column to this top level folder. The change is reflected to all of the sub folders automagically. I can find no rules or setting methods to affect this change in the default settings, it just happens. The only exception I can find, is that the position of the column at the end of the list of columns by default may be respecified in the sub-columns or changed in any sub-folder to whatever you want independently from the main column or other sub-folders after the main folder changes. Kind of like a hierarchical ordering setting. 2. Likewise a setting to the top level folder in terms of date ordering - oldest to newest or vice-versa will affect all the sub-folders, except where the subfolder was previously set differently. Case 2: Changes made to top level folders in other terms, in the View>Layout Menu MAY similarly affect sub-folders, but not the reverse. If Benny used the same logic, it may explain so of the random looking effects reported here. I tried out Case 1. above for my own folders and found it works between all my top level and (each of) their sub-folders as described. Maybe whomever is documenting the help menu can confirm and document these changes along with the respective folder actions. Perhaps it would explain anomalies reported here on sorting and columns. I leave Case 2 to others to confirm. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keeping emails read/unread
Hello Francesco, I can see in my IMAP setting there is a button called “Edit Subscriptions” below the IMAP section in the Edit screen. Have you looked into that to show or hide sub-folders within your default IMAP folders or others you may have added? So, no you don’t have to recreate the account to fix those issues. But yes, they perhaps need to be adjusted when you add an account to MailMate, possibly when you’ve added folders in some outside Client other than MailMate to that same account. I would start there to review the settings. Benny limits the size of responses to our posts or I would send you a screenshot of the Edit IMAP Account screen. But you probably can find your way, I suppose. If you need details, let me know and I will throw a screen shot up on Dropbox for you. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 16 Feb 2022, at 9:18, Francesco Consoli wrote: Hi, My MailMate build is the latest 5870. Even from 5864 I noticed that emails don’t become read/unread after processed them on a different email client that I usually use. Do I have to setup again the IMAP account from scratch (I would avoid ..)? It is an Exchange account, but worked well up to date. Thanks Francesco -Francesco Consoli Sent from my iMac ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Build 5871: Setting date sorting parameters(^) and columns in, folders/sub-folders in the Left Bar
Quinn, I agree, but it’s above my pay grade to decide that part. Frankly, I haven’t figured out correspondence and its worthiness yet. This is the first step toward understanding the hierarchy. Seems a big one and I have no idea what it was before in previous iterations. This part does makes sense only if its consistent. And its barely so at this stage, IMO. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Feb 2022, at 20:41, Quinn Comendant wrote: Hi Henry, I can confirm setting the column and sort for a top-level folder is inherited by all subfolders. I'm not sure it if helped that ran `defaults delete -app MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates` first. The only place this doesn't work is when viewing Layout → Correspondence, where Date Received is always sorted oldest first, no matter how that column is sorted anywhere else. This feels like a bug, if the above is meant to be the new standard behavior. Quinn On 22 Feb 2022, at 19:28, Henry Seiden wrote: Hello All, I made two interesting discoveries that seems undocumented in the Help Menus in this Build. It seems interesting that it isn’t mentioned, but it seems to hold true in all tabs affecting settings of sub-tabs within tabs of settings like columns adding or deleting them and setting the ordering parameter (E.G., sorting early to later or vice-versa). Also found a specific exception which you may also find interesting. Case 1: You have or have created a folder like “Archive” (in my case I renamed it to All Archive 2022 for reasons unimportant but obvious). In that folder there are default columns or added columns. Within that group there are several Account folders with messages: 1. You add a new column to this top level folder. The change is reflected to all of the sub folders automagically. I can find no rules or setting methods to affect this change in the default settings, it just happens. The only exception I can find, is that the position of the column at the end of the list of columns by default may be respecified in the sub-columns or changed in any sub-folder to whatever you want independently from the main column or other sub-folders after the main folder changes. Kind of like a hierarchical ordering setting. 2. Likewise a setting to the top level folder in terms of date ordering - oldest to newest or vice-versa will affect all the sub-folders, except where the subfolder was previously set differently. Case 2: Changes made to top level folders in other terms, in the View>Layout Menu MAY similarly affect sub-folders, but not the reverse. If Benny used the same logic, it may explain so of the random looking effects reported here. I tried out Case 1. above for my own folders and found it works between all my top level and (each of) their sub-folders as described. Maybe whomever is documenting the help menu can confirm and document these changes along with the respective folder actions. Perhaps it would explain anomalies reported here on sorting and columns. I leave Case 2 to others to confirm. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] untitled mailboxen undeletable
On 2022-02-22 at 16:33:18 UTC-0500 (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:33:18 -0800) Randy Bush is rumored to have said: this is on a outlook.office365.com account (don't ask). i get untitled empty mailboxes that i can not delete. they are often 'failed' or 'offline'. i can take offline, take offline, and then remove. 15 minutes later, they are all back, marked 'failed'. any clues on how to remove? You need to unsubscribe from them. Otherwise, MM will refetch the subscription list, see the (non-existent) mailbox there, and try to fetch it. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keeping emails read/unread
5871 is the test build. I use the same keystroke to mark messages read as Mail ⌘ + Shift + U. Seems to work, but don’t know why. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 16 Feb 2022, at 9:18, Francesco Consoli wrote: Hi, My MailMate build is the latest 5870. Even from 5864 I noticed that emails don’t become read/unread after processed them on a different email client that I usually use. Do I have to setup again the IMAP account from scratch (I would avoid ..)? It is an Exchange account, but worked well up to date. Thanks Francesco -Francesco Consoli Sent from my iMac ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Keystroke combination that seem to work for me in MM Build 5670+
I found these keystroke combos that seem to work on my machine without any alteration in MM. Maybe we should start a list of them to see if they are “universal” for all or use the list to build up something for Benny to put in his help docs? Anyway, I think these are supported system level (Finder) keystrokes. Some may need to be enabled in the System Preferences and when enabled there, seem to work OK in MM: * ⌘ +SHIFT+”U” = mark as read * ⌘ + right click mouse= select or deselect (highlight) a non-contiguous message(s). * Shift+right click = select a contiguous group of messages starting from the top, click the first one, then go the bottom of a contiguous group and then do this to select them all. * All text based substitutions you may have in MacOS. Like the ⌘ CMD key, ⌥ OPT keys. * Fractions, superscripts, Universal charactersets if enabled in your system settings. Got any more? Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] untitled mailboxen undeletable
> You need to unsubscribe from them. Otherwise, MM will refetch the > subscription list, see the (non-existent) mailbox there, and try to > fetch it. so that will actually nuke tem as opposed to just not showing them to me? randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
