Re: [MlMt] Benny still around ?

2020-03-09 Thread Charlie Clark

On 8 Mar 2020, at 20:03, Alexandre Takacs wrote:

This is typically the kind of application that need to be regularly 
kept up to date by the dev...


Depends what you mean by "up to date". E-mail is mainly about protocols 
that were developed and standardised decades ago, in which case MailMate 
is very much up to date.


But in terms of assessing developer activity I'd always suggest checking 
the change log over how much is written on the mailing list.


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Re: [MlMt] Benny still around ?

2020-03-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 9 Mar 2020, at 3:25, Philip Paeps wrote:


On 2020-03-09 02:48:58 (+0800), Alexandre Takacs wrote:
Maybe I have missed some announcement but is Benny still hanging 
around here ?


Yes, but I'm not spending much time on emails. That's most certainly 
**not** a good thing by itself, but I do spend my time working on 
MailMate code instead. I've mentioned a few times that I'm working on a 
new message view and this has kind of spread out to other parts of 
MailMate. The composer window is now also, more or less, going to be 
re-implemented. It'll look a lot like before, but the re-implementation 
means that I can fix a lot of long-standing bugs and add some features 
which were previously very hard to do. Most recently, I've been working 
on adding better handling of attachments which will make, e.g., 
drag/drop/copy/cut/paste work much better than before.


Unfortunately, what most users see now is only what I accidentally break 
in the old code such as printing and the preview (in the latest test 
release, but I'll look into it).


If you've been on the list for a while, you'll have noticed that Benny 
emails in waves.  One of these days there'll be a hundred messages.


Hopefully I'll get around to doing that again, but for now I'm focused 
on getting the new message and composer views into a state where I can 
ask some of you to try it out. The good news is that I'm using it myself 
now, but some key features are still missing. Most notable major missing 
features are image blocking, embedding HTML when replying/forwarding, 
and all user feedback related to OpenPGP and S/MIME.



I'd hate to give up on MailMate...


I'm still here and I'm looking forward to releasing more updates of 
MailMate which can hopefully lead to something that I'm comfortable 
labelling 2.0. That is my main goal even though it's just a number. 
(Eventually, I do need to make more money on MailMate either through 
license key sales or by gaining more patrons.)


And a special **thank you** to the people who answer MailMate users on 
this list when I'm not around!!


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Re: [MlMt] Benny still around ?

2020-03-09 Thread Alexandre Takacs

On 9 Mar 2020, at 9:18, Charlie Clark wrote:

Depends what you mean by "up to date". E-mail is mainly about 
protocols that were developed and standardised decades ago, in which 
case MailMate is very much up to date.


Well if you want to support GSuite (as an exemple) you'd rather update 
your mail client a few time a year :)


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Re: [MlMt] Benny still around ?

2020-03-09 Thread Charlie Clark

On 9 Mar 2020, at 9:28, Alexandre Takacs wrote:

Well if you want to support GSuite (as an exemple) you'd rather update 
your mail client a few time a year :)


Personally, I'm not interested in anything that isn't SMTP, IMAP or POP 
(and maybe JMAP when it's had some more road-testing) with the relevant 
TLS settings. Hitching your wagon to anything proprietary is just asking 
for trouble. But each to their own.


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[MlMt] reproducible hard hang in r5679

2020-03-09 Thread Eric Sharakan
Hi, so with r5679, when replying to a rich text message (i.e. where the 
message preview is enabled by default), every time I tried to disable 
that message preview, MailMate hangs, with the spinning beachball of 
death, until I force quit it.


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Re: [MlMt] reproducible hard hang in r5679

2020-03-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 9 Mar 2020, at 14:03, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Hi, so with r5679, when replying to a rich text message (i.e. where 
the message preview is enabled by default), every time I tried to 
disable that message preview, MailMate hangs, with the spinning 
beachball of death, until I force quit it.


There's a known issue with enabling/disabling the preview in r5679. If 
you also see this with r5680 then let me know (“Help > Send 
Feedback”).


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Re: [MlMt] reproducible hard hang in r5679

2020-03-09 Thread Charlie Clark

On 9 Mar 2020, at 14:06, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

There's a known issue with enabling/disabling the preview in r5679. If 
you also see this with r5680 then let me know (“Help > Send 
Feedback”).


Thanks for this! After having just have MailMate disappear in a puff of 
smoke. Preview has essentially been disabled for this, right?


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Re: [MlMt] reproducible hard hang in r5679

2020-03-09 Thread Eric Sharakan

r5680 fixes this.

Thanks for the quick resolution!

-Eric

On 9 Mar 2020, at 9:06, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 9 Mar 2020, at 14:03, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Hi, so with r5679, when replying to a rich text message (i.e. where 
the message preview is enabled by default), every time I tried to 
disable that message preview, MailMate hangs, with the spinning 
beachball of death, until I force quit it.


There's a known issue with enabling/disabling the preview in r5679. If 
you also see this with r5680 then let me know (“Help > Send 
Feedback”).


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Re: [MlMt] Benny still around ?

2020-03-09 Thread Shoshanna Green

On 9 Mar 2020, at 4:28, Alexandre Takacs wrote:
Well if you want to support GSuite (as an exemple) you'd rather update 
your mail client a few time a year :)


If you're following beta builds (which are, notwithstanding an 
occasional rapidly corrected misstep, extremely stable and reliable), 
then MailMate has been updated seven times so far in 2020. I'm not sure 
how much more active Benny could be! I mean, the man has to sleep 
sometime.


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Re: [MlMt] Benny still around ?

2020-03-09 Thread Shoshanna Green

On 9 Mar 2020, at 10:22, Shoshanna Green wrote:


MailMate has been updated seven times so far in 2020.


Correction: eight times!

I'm not sure how much more active Benny could be! I mean, the man has 
to sleep sometime.


Apparently not.

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[MlMt] condition for over a month (or two) old

2020-03-09 Thread Randy Bush
in a smart mailbox, how do i create a condition which includes all
messages (in the selected mailboxes) over a month (or two, or whatever)
old?

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Re: [MlMt] condition for over a month (or two) old

2020-03-09 Thread Patrik Fältström via mailmate
On 10 Mar 2020, at 6:12, Randy Bush wrote:

> in a smart mailbox, how do i create a condition which includes all messages 
> (in the selected mailboxes) over a month (or two, or whatever)
> old?

Condition is "within x weeks" for example, or months in your case.

See attached.

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Re: [MlMt] condition for over a month (or two) old

2020-03-09 Thread Patrik Fältström via mailmate
On 10 Mar 2020, at 7:55, Patrik Fältström via mailmate wrote:

> On 10 Mar 2020, at 6:12, Randy Bush wrote:
>
>> in a smart mailbox, how do i create a condition which includes all messages 
>> (in the selected mailboxes) over a month (or two, or whatever)
>> old?
>
> Condition is "within x weeks" for example, or months in your case.

Or "date" "not within" x "months" (of course).

   Patrik


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