[MlMt] Case sensitivity in address pattern matching

2018-05-06 Thread Randall Gellens
I have address patterns set for my accounts, and discovered that when a 
sender has an address for me in all upper case, MM does not recognize it 
as matching the address pattern.

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Re: [MlMt] Case sensitivity in address pattern matching

2018-05-06 Thread Billy Youdelman

On 6 May 2018, at 12:30 MST, Randall Gellens wrote:

I have address patterns set for my accounts, and discovered that when 
a sender has an address for me in all upper case, MM does not 
recognize it as matching the address pattern.


Call me crazy, I don't care, but ...

If this is actually a problem that needs a solution, I would like to 
strongly suggest that forcing entire email addresses to lower-case is 
not it.


This is one of the more annoying things going on these days.  For 
example, try and find any third-party DNS provider that leaves 
upper-case domain names alone.  Little things mean a lot.


If I didn't want mine upper-cased I would not have written it that way.

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Re: [MlMt] Case sensitivity in address pattern matching

2018-05-06 Thread Bill Cole

On 6 May 2018, at 16:21 (-0400), Billy Youdelman wrote:


On 6 May 2018, at 12:30 MST, Randall Gellens wrote:

I have address patterns set for my accounts, and discovered that when 
a sender has an address for me in all upper case, MM does not 
recognize it as matching the address pattern.


Call me crazy, I don't care, but ...

If this is actually a problem that needs a solution, I would like to 
strongly suggest that forcing entire email addresses to lower-case is 
not it.


It is a problem that needs some solution, because the local part of an 
email address MAY be case-sensitive but usually is not. Complicating 
that, 'postmaster' is ALWAYS case-insensitive, even on the rare mail 
system that otherwise supports case-sensitive local parts.


The domain part of an email address is NEVER case-sensitive. The 
canonical form of any non-IDN domain name is with all letters lower 
case, so interop pretty much requires tolerance for others 
case-squashing domain names, since that is definitively "Not Wrong." 
(Which does not mean it is "Right.")


This is one of the more annoying things going on these days.  For 
example, try and find any third-party DNS provider that leaves 
upper-case domain names alone.  Little things mean a lot.


As a technical matter, ASCII-label domain names are case-insensitive. It 
is a common practice for a nameserver to preserve the case of labels 
between queries and responses but it would be unsafe to depend on that 
behavior and outright wrong to provide different result data based on 
the case used in a query. DNSSEC depends on a definition of the 
canonical form of a domain name: all lower case.


If I didn't want mine upper-cased I would not have written it that 
way.


That's nice. To get case-sensitive domain names, you'll need to find a 
different Internet. :)




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[MlMt] Blacklisting display names has no effect

2018-05-06 Thread Galen Menzel

Hi all,

MailMate seems to have an option to blacklist specific display names so 
they don’t show up as autocompletion options, but it doesn’t seem to 
be working for me. As an example, say I have the following email 
addresses somewhere in my email collection:


```
Foo 
Foo Bar 
```

And say I only want `Foo Bar ` to show up as an 
autocomplete option, not `Foo `. If I select `Foo 
` in a new message and right click on that address, I 
can select `Add “Foo ” to Blacklist`. `Foo 
` duly shows up in the `Blacklist.plist` file. But `Foo 
` remains as an autocomplete suggestion.


If I blacklist `foo...@baz.com` it stops showing up as an autocomplete 
suggestion, as expected. But I only want to blacklist certain display 
names associated with an address, not the address itself.


Is this a bug or am I misunderstanding this feature?

Thanks!

Galen
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