Re: [MlMt] Should I remove gmail labels completely ?

2017-07-02 Thread Topher Buck

Giovanni et al.,

Forgive me for replying to a thread that is now more than two years old, 
but I’m still struggling with the question of how best to use MailMate 
with Gmail labels.


In this case, I don’t understand Giovanni’s advice (see below) to 
“treat them [Gmail labels] as folders”—keeping in mind, of course, 
the “no multiple labels per message” admonition. As I understand it, 
in MM, folder = mailbox, and this would suggest that one would create MM 
mailboxes corresponding to one’s Gmail labels. But—unless I’m 
really missing something—there is no way to create mailboxes in MM 
other than smart mailboxes), so there’s no way to move a message from 
my inbox to another mailbox, is there? *Unless* I include the mailboxes 
under SOURCES, but I thought the idea was not to use those as part of 
one’s typical workflow.


The Organize section of the MM manual 
[https://manual.mailmate-app.com/organize] states, “MailMate supports 
3 kinds of mailboxes…”, but it then describes only two: [1] Standard 
Mailboxes (Inbox, Drafts, Sent Messages, Junk, and Deleted Messages) and 
[2] Smart Mailboxes. What’s the third kind? Custom, but not smart, 
seems like the obvious option; is that just wishful thinking on my part?


Benny very kindly responded to my recent question about Gmail labels and 
MM tags, so, assuming I understand correctly, I know that I should not 
map MM tags to Gmail labels but should use MM mailboxes for Gmail labels 
(and use tags within MM), and that makes sense to me, but only if I can 
create MM mailboxes and map them to my existing Gmail labels/folders.


I tried quitting MM, editing the Mailboxes.plist file to add an entry 
for a new mailbox, and then restarting MM, but that didn’t have any 
obvious effect other than reordering the mailboxes in the left panel in 
MM. Then I found this entry in the MM lists archive: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg03660.html and 
tried copying and renaming the “Examples” mailbox. That worked, but 
I don’t know how to map it to a Gmail label, nor can I even move 
existing messages from my Inbox to the new mailbox, so it’s not clear 
that I have actually accomplished anything.


Is the only option in MM to use tags to organize messages and move 
everything I want to save to the Archive folder? I could probably live 
with that, but I would be awfully nice not to abandon all my Gmail 
labels, and I have not gotten the clear sense that this is necessary 
(put another way, I still have the impression, based on what I have 
heard from Benny and read in the archive, that it *is* possible to 
create and use MM mailboxes corresponding to Gmail labels).


Can anyone enlighten me?

Thank you very much,

/topher



Giovanni Lanzani Fri, 03 Apr 2015 05:00:08 -0700

On 3 Apr 2015, at 13:01, Olivier Martin wrote:


Hello there,

The question must have been asked a thousand times : it's about gmail 
and labels...


As I understand it, they are mostly an IMAP hack and break many many 
clients. So... I should probably remove them, but I have like 8 years 
of labelling history so it's kind of a harsh decision to make. I 
could create Smart mailboxes I guess but I like the idea of 
organising my mails with them.


I'm curious how you guys deal with gmail, no labels **at all** ?

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I just treat them as folders: they can be nested, but that's it (i.e. 
no multiple labels per message).


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[MlMt] Date sent column = date last saved?

2017-07-02 Thread Per Westerlund

Hi!

While sending a group of emails I started composing some days ago, I 
noticed that once the emails are sent, they end up in my "Sent Messages" 
with the value of "Date Sent" actually being when I last saved the 
draft, not when I really did send it.


This "Date Sent" appears to be the header value "Date".



I was expecting the value of the header Date to be set to when I did 
send the message, not when I saved it to the draft folder last time.


Is this the proper behaviour?

MailMate: Version 1.9.6 (5347)


/Per Westerlund

PS: This is not a problem for me. Now that I know this behaviour, I can 
always make an insignificant edit before sending a saved mail if I want 
to change the recorded date.

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[MlMt] Can I see the # of selected message?

2017-07-02 Thread Robert M. Münch
Hi, is there a way that I can see the # of selected message? I'm selecting 
messages either in the normal message list or in the correspondence view.

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Re: [MlMt] Can I see the # of selected message?

2017-07-02 Thread Sherif Soliman


On 2 Jul 2017, at 14:03, Robert M. Münch wrote:

Hi, is there a way that I can see the # of selected message? I'm 
selecting messages either in the normal message list or in the 
correspondence view.




It should appear in the title bar at the top of the Inbox window. For 
example: "2 messages selected  - Inbox (43 messages)".


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Re: [MlMt] Should I remove gmail labels completely ?

2017-07-02 Thread Topher Buck
Rereading the “Organize” section of the MM manual 
[https://manual.mailmate-app.com/organize] just now, I noticed this 
sentence: “When handling a new message in the Inbox, the basic 
decision to make is whether it should be archived or trashed. The rest 
should be handled by smart mailboxes.” That may be an answer (possibly 
*the* answer) to my earlier question:


Is the only option in MM to use tags to organize messages and move 
everything I want to save to the Archive folder?


But since that still strikes me as sub-optimal, I’m going to hold on 
to my hope that someone else will describe another approach. At this 
point, moving messages to the Gmail folders/labels under SOURCES is the 
only option I can see.


/topher

P.S. I wrote previously that I couldn’t move messages from Inbox to 
another mailbox. I was trying to issue the “Move to Mailbox…” 
command with a message open in its own window, but that command is 
inactive in that instance. I subsequently realized that the command *is* 
available as long as I don’t open a message in its own window. That 
seems a bit odd, but I’ll take it. (Even then, however, I couldn’t 
move messages to the mailbox I created by duplicating the “Examples” 
folder and renaming the copy.)
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[MlMt] Conditional or context-sensitive keybindings

2017-07-02 Thread Simon Kaplan

Hi all

Is it possible to set up a keybinding so its behaviour changes depending 
on the folder you’re in?  For example, I’d like to define ‘a’ to 
archive: if I’m in the Inbox, but move the messages to a different 
folder if I’m in the SaneNews, SaneLater or SaneBulk folders.


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Re: [MlMt] Can I see the # of selected message?

2017-07-02 Thread Robert M. Münch
On 2 Jul 2017, at 23:07, Sherif Soliman wrote:

> It should appear in the title bar at the top of the Inbox window. For 
> example: "2 messages selected  - Inbox (43 messages)".

Hi, yes it does, but it's slow, that's why I didn't see it...

And if I mark messages in the Correspondence view, such a number is not shown.

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