Re: [MlMt] Tags/Keywords and Gmail Labels

2016-09-12 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 10 Sep 2016, at 22:42, Jim McCarty wrote:

Debugging is easier if you can describe as simple steps as possible 
to reproduce an issue with a single message (if possible). Then I can 
try to reproduce it.


The steps are pretty simple.
1) select a message in a Gmail folder. I chose a folder with 22 
messages, none of the messages have the Tag applied and can be seen by 
creating a smart mailbox that looks for the Tag (it is empty)


How exactly is this tag configured? (Display name and IMAP keyword.)

2) add the Tag to the message -- the Tag should not have anything in 
the Gmail Label column
3) verify the message shows in the smart mailbox that shows messages 
with the Tag

4) add the Gmail Label to the Tag in Preferences


What is the name of the Gmail label?

What I see after step 4 is the message no longer is shown in the smart 
mailbox. What does show in there are 3 messages I sent ([Gmail]/Sent 
Mail) to the mailing list the Gmail folder was for. They now have the 
tag applied but not by me.


Removing the Gmail Label from the Tag brings the original message back 
plus the 3 messages that correspond to the 3 sent messages, they now 
have the Tag applied, too. I now have 7 messages showing in the smart 
mailbox.


Ok, I can try to reproduce this if you answer the questions above.

(The most important thing is that it works for you if you create the tag 
including the Gmail label before starting to tag messages.)


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Re: [MlMt] Stop automatic download of incoming messages

2016-09-12 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 10 Sep 2016, at 20:39, Paul Sture wrote:


On 10 Sep 2016, at 20:04, Bill Cole wrote:

One of the few serious gaps in MM is the fact that you can only take 
source accounts online and offline by selecting them in the Sources 
list. It would be nice to have (like TBird and Outlook and Mail.app) 
a menu command to flip the online/offline switch for all accounts at 
once or individually, akin to the File->Synchronize menu.


I'd like to see a keyboard shortcut and a toolbar icon to toggle the 
online/offline state.


Technically, it's certainly not a problem to implement all of the above. 
It comes up pretty often which means I should probably do something 
about it :)


I could use it myself, but my problem is that I have a group of test 
accounts which are offline most of the time. That would make the “Take 
All Online” action pretty annoying to use. This is a different problem 
though and is related to a different “request”: The ability to hide 
unused accounts.


Why both?  I do like driving everything from the keyboard, but I often 
enough read email with a cup of coffee or

sandwich in one hand, and a mouse can be used with the other hand.


:-)

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Re: [MlMt] Tags/Keywords and Gmail Labels

2016-09-12 Thread Jim McCarty

On 12 Sep 2016, at 2:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 10 Sep 2016, at 22:42, Jim McCarty wrote:

Debugging is easier if you can describe as simple steps as possible 
to reproduce an issue with a single message (if possible). Then I 
can try to reproduce it.


The steps are pretty simple.
1) select a message in a Gmail folder. I chose a folder with 22 
messages, none of the messages have the Tag applied and can be seen 
by creating a smart mailbox that looks for the Tag (it is empty)


How exactly is this tag configured? (Display name and IMAP keyword.)


Display name and IMAP keyword are the same, in this case `disc`.

2) add the Tag to the message -- the Tag should not have anything in 
the Gmail Label column
3) verify the message shows in the smart mailbox that shows messages 
with the Tag

4) add the Gmail Label to the Tag in Preferences


What is the name of the Gmail label?


The Gmail label is also `disc`.

What I see after step 4 is the message no longer is shown in the 
smart mailbox. What does show in there are 3 messages I sent 
([Gmail]/Sent Mail) to the mailing list the Gmail folder was for. 
They now have the tag applied but not by me.


Removing the Gmail Label from the Tag brings the original message 
back plus the 3 messages that correspond to the 3 sent messages, they 
now have the Tag applied, too. I now have 7 messages showing in the 
smart mailbox.


Ok, I can try to reproduce this if you answer the questions above.

(The most important thing is that it works for you if you create the 
tag including the Gmail label before starting to tag messages.)


I haven't tried that, just did. After setting a Tag with all three 
entries set to `disc`, I created a smart mailbox to see the messages for 
that Tag. All I see are the three messages from my [Gmail]/Sent Mail 
folder which were not in the `disc` folder, none of the other messages 
are accessible, even when searching for specific subject words 
(`disc-l`), all I get then are messages I sent ([Gmail/Sent Mail) to the 
list that I didn't keep around in the `disc` folder.


Would be happy to try other scenarios to get this resolved.

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Re: [MlMt] Tags/Keywords and Gmail Labels

2016-09-12 Thread Jim McCarty

On 12 Sep 2016, at 22:47, Jim McCarty wrote:


On 12 Sep 2016, at 2:39, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 10 Sep 2016, at 22:42, Jim McCarty wrote:

(The most important thing is that it works for you if you create the 
tag including the Gmail label before starting to tag messages.)


I haven't tried that, just did. After setting a Tag with all three 
entries set to `disc`, I created a smart mailbox to see the messages 
for that Tag. All I see are the three messages from my [Gmail]/Sent 
Mail folder which were not in the `disc` folder, none of the other 
messages are accessible, even when searching for specific subject 
words (`disc-l`), all I get then are messages I sent ([Gmail/Sent 
Mail) to the list that I didn't keep around in the `disc` folder.


So, after removing the entire Tag entry from the preferences, I needed 
to restart MailMate to see my disc folder again. I remember that such an 
action would not make any changes to current messages but instead, my 
smart mailbox now shows 6 messages: the three from the sent folder and 
their corresponding messages I kept from the mailing list. Apparently 
these all still have the Keyword and the smart mailbox reflects that but 
there's no indication in the header display(like there is when the 
keyword is set in Tags Preferences.


Jim
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