Re: [MlMt] Stop automatic download of incoming messages
On 9 Sep 2016, at 12:54, Esteban Umerez Argaia wrote: A ‘Do not disturb’ button for MailMate would be wonderful, certainly. Yes. One of the few serious gaps in MM is the fact that you can only take source accounts online and offline by selecting them in the Sources list. It would be nice to have (like TBird and Outlook and Mail.app) a menu command to flip the online/offline switch for all accounts at once or individually, akin to the File->Synchronize menu. Something I do as an alternative when I need to focus on extended writing of email or anything else is to use my laptop (smaller screen, weaker hardware, no wired network) instead of my desktop and flip the WiFi off. MailMate immediately notices, switches all sources to "disconnected", and stops doing any noticeable background work. It probably helps that I am old enough that using a computer without a network doesn't feel heretical. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Going online/offline
On 9 Sep 2016, at 17:41, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I know that I can take a mailbox online and offline by right-clicking on the source icon for it. There are two problems with that. First, when I right-click on the icon (which I do by a two-finger tap on my trackpad, if that makes a difference), it tries to assemble a display of all messages from that source, in all folders. That's a great thing to do on a single-tap, but to me a double-tap shouldn't shift focus, it should just call up the attribute menu. Second, I have ~8 mailboxes; if I want to go offline completely (and I sometimes do, such as right now when I'm in a low-bandwidth environment), I don't want to have to scroll down to all eight and go through the time-consuming double-tap/select process. Apart from fixing the focus change (and I don't know if that's technically feasible), would it be possible to have Offline and Online entries in the File menu, with both an "All" option and entries for individual mailboxes? We're having a similar discussion in another active thread... One trick is to collapse all the source accounts, select them all at once (click the first one, shift-click the last one), and use the Mailbox->Take Offline menu command. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Stop automatic download of incoming messages
On 10 Sep 2016, at 20:04, Bill Cole wrote: On 9 Sep 2016, at 12:54, Esteban Umerez Argaia wrote: A ‘Do not disturb’ button for MailMate would be wonderful, certainly. Yes. One of the few serious gaps in MM is the fact that you can only take source accounts online and offline by selecting them in the Sources list. It would be nice to have (like TBird and Outlook and Mail.app) a menu command to flip the online/offline switch for all accounts at once or individually, akin to the File->Synchronize menu. I'd like to see a keyboard shortcut and a toolbar icon to toggle the online/offline state. Why both? I do like driving everything from the keyboard, but I often enough read email with a cup of coffee or sandwich in one hand, and a mouse can be used with the other hand. Something I do as an alternative when I need to focus on extended writing of email or anything else is to use my laptop (smaller screen, weaker hardware, no wired network) instead of my desktop and flip the WiFi off. MailMate immediately notices, switches all sources to "disconnected", and stops doing any noticeable background work. Offline capability was one of the main reasons I chose MailMate in the first place. I live out in the sticks and my broadband will frequently go AWOL for a while (a few seconds up to half an hour). It's a lot better than it used to be, but when it's half way between 'working' and 'not working', a forced disconnect is the best way forward. It probably helps that I am old enough that using a computer without a network doesn't feel heretical. The most irritating situation is with any program which finds a connection and expects it to be there forever. Some developers have quite obviously never worked with modems, or even had the "pleasure" of building work or storms taking the lot out. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Tags/Keywords and Gmail Labels
On 9 Sep 2016, at 7:17, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 9 Sep 2016, at 9:03, Jim McCarty wrote: While playing around with tags/keywords and Gmail labels, I found that applying a label to a group of messages in a folder (22 of them, there are 3 in sent messages that are not selected), then adding the Gmail Label to the tag preference entry, all of the emails disappear. I can't find them using tags or searching for the prefix applied to the subject of all the list emails. Removing the Gmail label from the tag entry allows them to be found again. If I do this over and over, I get a couple different results. Sometimes after applying the tag and then adding the Gmail label, Setting the label server side? No, this is adding the Gmail Label in MM Tags Preferences. the smart mailbox I have set to look for the tag shows messages that are in the sent folder (the 3 messages) but none of the messages I selected and added the label to. When I remove the Gmail Label from the tag preference entry, the messages reappear but sometimes they no longer have the tag/keyword attached, sometimes they do. I did one run where I made sure only the 22 messages had the tag and the 3 sent messages did not but adding the Gmail label to the tag preference prevented access to the 22 messages and showed the 3 sent messages as having the tag applied (only the 22 messages showed in the smart mailbox prior). I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or there's some kind of bug in the app. I would appreciate if someone else could try these steps and see if they get similar results or can point out something I'm missing. You have probably found some bug(s). I don't think changing Gmail label mappings in the Tags preferences pane is 100% robust. It might some times require relaunching MailMate before the changes are updated. Also, it might take some time before changes done server side propagate to MailMate. It's all a bit tricky to get to work properly, especially because “[Gmail]/All Mail” is involved. Debugging is easier if you can describe as simple steps as possible to reproduce an issue with a single message (if possible). Then I can try to reproduce it. The steps are pretty simple. 1) select a message in a Gmail folder. I chose a folder with 22 messages, none of the messages have the Tag applied and can be seen by creating a smart mailbox that looks for the Tag (it is empty) 2) add the Tag to the message -- the Tag should not have anything in the Gmail Label column 3) verify the message shows in the smart mailbox that shows messages with the Tag 4) add the Gmail Label to the Tag in Preferences What I see after step 4 is the message no longer is shown in the smart mailbox. What does show in there are 3 messages I sent ([Gmail]/Sent Mail) to the mailing list the Gmail folder was for. They now have the tag applied but not by me. Removing the Gmail Label from the Tag brings the original message back plus the 3 messages that correspond to the 3 sent messages, they now have the Tag applied, too. I now have 7 messages showing in the smart mailbox. Thanks, Jim ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
