[MlMt] logic of offline behavior
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know/can explain the logic of the "offline" designation of sources? Occasionally, some of my account go "offline". I only realize this a day or two after the fact, usually. My sources are effectively hidden below a large list of mailboxes, and I only realize that they are offline when I imagine that I should have received more mail than I have. Many times, I see the sources try to go online whenever the network is up, but in some cases they just don't. If I understand the logic, perhaps I can see when I need to check/not check. Importantly, this often applies only to gmail accounts. Thanks, Zvi ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 15:02, Zvi Biener wrote: Does anyone know/can explain the logic of the "offline" designation of sources? When an account is “offline” then MailMate does not synchronize any of its mailboxes. It's like having the machine offline. Very few types of problems should lead to the “offline” state and most often it shouldn't happen until after the user has been warned about some kind of synchronization issue. Occasionally, some of my account go "offline". I only realize this a day or two after the fact, usually. My sources are effectively hidden below a large list of mailboxes, and I only realize that they are offline when I imagine that I should have received more mail than I have. Many times, I see the sources try to go online whenever the network is up, but in some cases they just don't. If I understand the logic, perhaps I can see when I need to check/not check. Importantly, this often applies only to gmail accounts. This fits an issue which I've tried to fix today. Gmail (and Outlook) accounts using the OAuth2 authentication method could some times automatically go offline. For some users it is triggered quite often. I'm not yet sure why, but it might be related to an unstable network connection or (maybe more likely) the OS X Power Nap feature. Try the latest test release and let me know if (or if not) that helps. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 8:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailinglist-at-freron.com |Mailmate/RER>Vendor>Software> Freron Software| wrote: Very few types of problems should lead to the “offline” state and most often it shouldn't happen until after the user has been warned about some kind of synchronization issue. This fits an issue which I've tried to fix today. Gmail (and Outlook) accounts using the OAuth2 authentication method could some times automatically go offline. For some users it is triggered quite often. I'm not yet sure why, but it might be related to an unstable network connection or (maybe more likely) the OS X Power Nap feature. Try the latest test release and let me know if (or if not) that helps. FYI Benny, I have had this issue for quite some time, never thought to bring it up though. I have 11 gmail accounts and as I was reading this I looked and 4 of them are offline. I have never received an notification for a source going offline. I have a very stable network connection and do not use sleep or power nap at all. In the short term, it would be helpful (to me anyway) if the text "(offline)" could be bold or even a bold color like red. The Sources are visible on my display but I never look at them in the normal course of a day. __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae* https://about.me/rerettke ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
I also have this issue from time to time. Might I suggest that instead of (or in addition to) the “offline” designation, the name of the account itself change (italics, different color, etc.)? On 7 Mar 2016, at 10:38, Richard Rettke wrote: On 7 Mar 2016, at 8:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailinglist-at-freron.com |Mailmate/RER>Vendor>Software> Freron Software| wrote: Very few types of problems should lead to the “offline” state and most often it shouldn't happen until after the user has been warned about some kind of synchronization issue. This fits an issue which I've tried to fix today. Gmail (and Outlook) accounts using the OAuth2 authentication method could some times automatically go offline. For some users it is triggered quite often. I'm not yet sure why, but it might be related to an unstable network connection or (maybe more likely) the OS X Power Nap feature. Try the latest test release and let me know if (or if not) that helps. FYI Benny, I have had this issue for quite some time, never thought to bring it up though. I have 11 gmail accounts and as I was reading this I looked and 4 of them are offline. I have never received an notification for a source going offline. I have a very stable network connection and do not use sleep or power nap at all. In the short term, it would be helpful (to me anyway) if the text "(offline)" could be bold or even a bold color like red. The Sources are visible on my display but I never look at them in the normal course of a day. __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae* https://about.me/rerettke ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] What's the name of the "Flagged"-Mailbox?
On 6 Mar 2016, at 3:55, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: I would like to make a keyboard-shortcut for showing the "*Flagged*"-Mailbox, like this: "F" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Flagged", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" ); but the name *Flagged* doesn't work. What's the correct name then? It's `FLAGGED`. You can put it on the pasteboard by selecting the mailbox and then use “Edit ▸ Copy” (⌘C). This works for any mailbox. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keybindings for "Thread" and "Correspondence"
On 5 Mar 2016, at 12:49, Jack Brannen wrote: > That is totally fine. Which keyboard shortcuts will work for all messages? The ones **not** using ⌘ (command) or ⌥ (option). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] CardDAV multi address book support?
On 6 Mar 2016, at 17:59, Mike Brasch wrote: I just see, that BusyContacts seems to use its own Contacts store. If BusyMac provides an API for address lookup in BusyContacts, would you build it into Mailmate? MailMate prefers emails stored in the cloud (IMAP) and I think it's best if the same is true for contacts. I'm pretty sure BusyContacts can synchronize with a server and that Contacts can synchronize with the same server. If this doesn't work then I would prefer fixing that instead of using another API. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 16:38, Richard Rettke wrote: FYI Benny, I have had this issue for quite some time, never thought to bring it up though. I have 11 gmail accounts and as I was reading this I looked and 4 of them are offline. I have never received an notification for a source going offline. I have a very stable network connection and do not use sleep or power nap at all. Hmm, the latter means I don't really know why it would happen for you. If it still happens with the latest test release then let me know such that I can tell you how to help me debug it. In the short term, it would be helpful (to me anyway) if the text "(offline)" could be bold or even a bold color like red. The Sources are visible on my display but I never look at them in the normal course of a day. I already did this for the latest test release (red color). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 17:46, temjeito wrote: I also have this issue from time to time. Might I suggest that instead of (or in addition to) the “offline” designation, the name of the account itself change (italics, different color, etc.)? As noted in another email, the offline accounts are now using a red color (under SOURCES). If SOURCES is collapsed then this line itself is red if any accounts are offline. I might change how this works some day (visually), but for now it's more important to track down the offline-bug. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] logic of offline behavior
On 7 Mar 2016, at 14:41, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Hmm, the latter means I don't really know why it would happen for you. If it still happens with the latest test release then let me know such that I can tell you how to help me debug it. In the short term, it would be helpful (to me anyway) if the text "(offline)" could be bold or even a bold color like red. The Sources are visible on my display but I never look at them in the normal course of a day. I already did this for the latest test release (red color). Just upgraded. The red is very helpful. I'll get them all back online and let you know what transpires. __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae* https://about.me/rerettke ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Update to Visualize bundle
On 6 Mar 2016, at 10:46, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 30 Jan 2016, at 1:21, Sherif Soliman wrote: Hey, I enjoy your visualisation bundle and I just stumbled on this paragraph from latest email where you asked for feedback: Next up on my list is creating a statistics page that gives you different summaries/notes about the emails you selected, plotting by month and by year in Emails by Time (if the emails span more than one year), and visualizing recipient of emails, which is a bit trickier than visualizing the senders because each email has only one sender, but potentially many recipients. Any news on this - sounds cool. Unfortunately not. I had put off some work to focus and push the latest set of changes to the bundle through and haven't returned to work on it since (got pretty busy with work). But hearing that there are people out there interested in improvements/updates is certainly encouraging :) I'll see if I can dedicate some time to it soon. btw. have you seen gmailmeter.com - it has some interesting stats that would be awesome to do on mailmate directly instead of only working on gmail's. I hadn't heard about it, thanks for the tip. It looks pretty polished and I can probably get some ideas/inspiration for things to do for the bundle from it. Anyways, thanks for a fun plugin! You're welcome :) Thanks for the feedback. Sherif ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] What's the name of the "Flagged"-Mailbox?
On 7 Mar 2016, at 21:31, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 6 Mar 2016, at 3:55, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: I would like to make a keyboard-shortcut for showing the "*Flagged*"-Mailbox, like this: "F" = ( "goToMailbox:", "Flagged", "makeFirstResponder:", "mainOutline" ); but the name *Flagged* doesn't work. What's the correct name then? It's `FLAGGED`. Thanks! You can put it on the pasteboard by selecting the mailbox and then use “Edit ▸ Copy” (⌘C). This works for any mailbox. Ah, now I remember this! Thanks again!___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Flagged-Mailbox shows unflagged message
On 29 Feb 2016, at 16:46, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: It has also been suggested to make it possible to have a shortcut to refresh a mailbox (as if re-selecting the mailbox). That would indeed also solve this problem! And it solved it! Waiting for the MailMate-refresh I've made a workaround… yes, in KeyboardMaestro again ;-) Pressing CMD-R now makes a fast switch to another mailbox and back to the FLAGGED-mailbox again. It's actually a sort of refresh, because it works only for the FLAGGED-mailbox, but it's good enough for now. A *real* refresh would be appreciated though. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] CardDAV multi address book support?
On 7 Mar 2016, at 21:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I'm pretty sure BusyContacts can synchronize with a server and that Contacts can synchronize with the same server. BusyContacts *synchronizes* with a server - I'm using it with my contacts in iCloud. BUT: Wouldn't be possible to make MailMate open BusyContacts instead of OS X's Contacts app, when searching for a contact from / within MailMate? (it's a little like the question about making MailMate the default mail-app, but now the other way around…)___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
