Re: [MlMt] Controlling where sent messages that are NOT replies get saved

2016-01-31 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 30 Jan 2016, at 17:50, Sam Hathaway wrote:


My remaining problem is:

* When I compose a new message and send it, the sent message gets 
saved to my “Sent” folder.


* I tried to fix this by giving each account’s INBOX the Mailbox 
Type “Sent Messages”. But when I do that, MailMate forces the 
message list for each INBOX to show the “To” column, and I can’t 
uncheck that column.


I don't really know if setting the INBOX to be “Sent Messages” 
works, but you can get rid of the To column by changing which column is 
the Outline column (the column with the triangles when threading).


I guess this is the proper solution to this problem, but in theory 
MailMate does not currently support assigning multiple types to a single 
IMAP mailbox. The INBOX is kind of a special case though and it seems to 
kind of work for you.


* I also considered using MmSentMailbox, but that appears to be a 
global setting (not a per-account setting) and I need sent messages to 
go to the inbox of the account they were sent from.


This setting only controls which messages are shown by the universal 
Sent Messages mailbox. For example, you could create a smart mailbox 
which only contains emails sent from you and then use that as 
`MmSentMailbox`.


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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

2016-01-31 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 31 Jan 2016, at 8:25, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section of 
MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above 
Signature  > (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to 
Bottom) (…)*), but now **every reply put my cursor at the top 
again** :-(


Any idea, what could have happened?


Try clicking “Reset Usage History” in the Signatures preferences 
pane. This should ensure a clean start.


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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

2016-01-31 Thread Vlad Ghitulescu

On 31 Jan 2016, at 9:22, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 31 Jan 2016, at 8:25, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:

I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section 
of MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above 
Signature  > (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to 
Bottom) (…)*), but now **every reply put my cursor at the top 
again** :-(


Any idea, what could have happened?


Try clicking “Reset Usage History” in the Signatures preferences 
pane. This should ensure a clean start.


I did. It didn't help, the caret was to the top again.


Regards,
Vlad


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[MlMt] Mails in dovecot virtual folders do not show up

2016-01-31 Thread Stefan Krauth

Hello,

I'm a new MailMate user. So far I'm very impressed by its capabilities.
However, I noticed that dovecot virtual folders are empty. I'm not 
talking about smart mailboxes created in MailMate.


I configured some Search Folders in dovecot (version 2.2.13).

namespace {
  prefix = "Search Folders/"
  separator = /
  location = "virtual:~/.emails/Search Folders:INDEX=MEMORY"
}

And this is just a sample dovecot-virtual file:

❯ cat ~/.emails/Search\ Folders/Flagged/dovecot-virtual
*
-Sent
-Trash
-Spam
-Spam/*
  flagged

I'm using virtual folders configured on the server mainly because they 
also work via phone, webmail etc.


The current behavior is that these folders show up in MailMate, but they 
are empty.

They do not show up in the IMAP Subscription dialog.

My expectation would be that these folders behave like any other IMAP 
folder.
Im posting it to this list, because these folders are working fine in 
all other mail applications I've tested (roundcube webmail, apple mail, 
postbox, iOS Mail).


Is there a way make this work?

Thank you very much!
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Re: [MlMt] Controlling where sent messages that are NOT replies get saved

2016-01-31 Thread Sam Hathaway

On 31 Jan 2016, at 3:21 AM EST, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 30 Jan 2016, at 17:50, Sam Hathaway wrote:


My remaining problem is:

* When I compose a new message and send it, the sent message gets 
saved to my “Sent” folder.


* I tried to fix this by giving each account’s INBOX the Mailbox 
Type “Sent Messages”. But when I do that, MailMate forces the 
message list for each INBOX to show the “To” column, and I 
can’t uncheck that column.


I don't really know if setting the INBOX to be “Sent Messages” 
works, but you can get rid of the To column by changing which column 
is the Outline column (the column with the triangles when threading).


Benny,

Thanks for your prompt response as always!

I just tried this, and it doesn’t seem to work. It looks like if a 
mailbox is set to “Sent Messages” mode, it reverts to a different 
sent-messages column setup any time I select it.


--> Steps to replicate:
1. Set INBOX as Mailbox Type “Sent Messages”.
2. Enable the “From” column.
3. Set the Outline Column to “From”.
4. Disable the “To” column.
5. Switch to another mailbox.
6. Switch back to the INBOX.
--> Expected Result:
“From” column is shown and is the Outline Column; “To” column is 
not shown.

--> Actual Result:
“From” column is not shown; “To” column is shown and is the 
Outline Column.


I guess this is the proper solution to this problem, but in theory 
MailMate does not currently support assigning multiple types to a 
single IMAP mailbox. The INBOX is kind of a special case though and it 
seems to kind of work for you.


I think for now I’m going to set up a rule for the “Sent” folder 
of each account to move any messages that end up there into the INBOX of 
the corresponding account. This doesn’t seem elegant to me, but it 
gets the job done.


* I also considered using MmSentMailbox, but that appears to be a 
global setting (not a per-account setting) and I need sent messages 
to go to the inbox of the account they were sent from.


This setting only controls which messages are shown by the universal 
Sent Messages mailbox. For example, you could create a smart mailbox 
which only contains emails sent from you and then use that as 
`MmSentMailbox`.


Ah, OK, thanks for the clarification. I’ll do that.
-sam
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Re: [MlMt] Controlling where sent messages that are NOT replies get saved

2016-01-31 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 31 Jan 2016, at 18:45, Sam Hathaway wrote:

I think for now I’m going to set up a rule for the “Sent” folder 
of each account to move any messages that end up there into the INBOX 
of the corresponding account. This doesn’t seem elegant to me, but 
it gets the job done.


At least it can be a bit simpler than that. You can add the rule to the 
universal “Sent Messages” mailbox and move to the universal 
“Inbox”. Only one rule needed.


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[MlMt] One machine not synchronizing

2016-01-31 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
Right now, I'm sitting at my desktop, with my laptop open next to me.  
Messages that I've marked as 'read' on the desktop show that way on my 
phone but not on the laptop.  Manually synchronizing the affected 
folders on the laptop hasn't helped, nor has quitting and restarting 
MailMate.  Both are running 5187.  Suggestions?


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Re: [MlMt] How to put the cursor at the bottom of the original email when replying / forwarding?

2016-01-31 Thread David Shepherdson

On 31 Jan 2016, at 18.25, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote:


Something changed and I don't know what.

I still have the Caret Placement option in the Signatures > section of 
MailMate’s preferences as you suggested (*(…) set to Above 
Signature  > (with the ‘Default signature placement’ set to 
Bottom) (…)*), but now **every reply put my cursor at the top 
again** :-(


Any idea, what could have happened?


This is because of the change to The BBEdit command’s edit.sh. Taking 
out the:


+${MM_LINE_NUMBER}

…means that BBEdit is no longer being told which line to 
‘activate’ (i.e. select).


So you can’t use these two tricks in combination, unfortunately (at 
least, not unless/until Bare Bones adds the ability to specify the line 
number in the command without selecting it). You basically get a choice 
between MailMate telling BBEdit the correct line number, and BBEdit 
selecting it, or MailMate not telling BBEdit anything about the line 
number, so BBEdit puts the insertion point at the beginning of the file. 
I’m not bothered by the former, but then I only occasionally edit my 
messages in BBEdit, not all the time, so it’s rarely a problem for me.


David
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[MlMt] Markdown vs. PlainText in replies

2016-01-31 Thread Kee Hinckley
I'd like an option such that if someone sends me a plaintext message, 
the default reply format is plaintext rather than markdown. I can always 
switch it if I want formatting, but it seems silly to change an 
old-style email conversation to HTML if it's not necessary (and if the 
sender is using plaintext, they probably have feelings about that :). 
Unfortunately, when I'm reading, there's no simple way to tell whether 
they sent it in HTML or not.


I'm not even sure it needs to be an option. It seems like a reasonable 
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