Re: [MlMt] check whether a recipient is in a certain group?

2015-08-16 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 13 Aug 2015, at 22:48, Shoshanna Green wrote:

But if it's working for you, clearly it should work! Would it help to 
send you a crash report? Or I guess you've got both of today's crash 
reports already, because I've ticked that box in Preferences-General. 
Well, not that I think this should be a higher priority than HTML 
support, but I'd be glad of help to get it working.


Based on the crash reports, it would help if you launch from a Terminal 
window and then send me any output after a crash:


/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/MacOS/MailMate

It appears MailMate crashes when trying to parse a query string. You can 
send it off list.


I can also see I should have provided a more detailed example like this:

	#recipient.address =[c] 
$'imap://u...@imap.example.com/AddressListMailbox'.#unquoted


Here `AddressListMailbox` is an IMAP mailbox containing a single message 
with all of the email addresses -- one per line.


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Re: [MlMt] possibly unpopular feature request

2015-08-16 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 13 Aug 2015, at 18:13, Joe Abley wrote:

What are the chances that there could be a configurable option to use 
Mail.app-style presentation of threads as an alternative to what 
MailMate currently does?


The most likely addition is what I refer to as group threading, i.e., a 
single level threading for which it makes sense to revert sorting (which 
does not make much sense when doing “real” threading). This is, by 
the way, not limited to grouping by thread (message-id). Emails could 
easily be grouped by any header (and I probably cannot resist such a 
generalization when I get to work on this feature).


It is more complicated to add what I refer to as a conversation view, 
that is, all emails of a thread shown in the message view, but it's not 
something I reject.


Workarounds for now have been described in this thread. (In particular, 
note “Message ▸ Next Unread” when searching for an unread email in 
a very long thread.)


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Re: [MlMt] possibly unpopular feature request

2015-08-16 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 14 Aug 2015, at 0:33, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:

I'd really like some way to do this in MailMate.  When I select a 
message that is in a thread, that some sort of obvious visual clue is 
given to change the colour of other messages in the mailbox list for 
messages in that same thread.


Of course, this may already be possible and I just need to know the 
magic


Still not possible, sorry. I do think it makes a lot of sense when not 
threading messages. It is a relatively simply feature, but it has to 
come after some other planned changes to the messages outline.


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Re: [MlMt] Bug when copying subject line

2015-08-16 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 14 Aug 2015, at 6:45, Patrik Fältström wrote:

This is a bit cumbersome, and I ask whether one can not do this in an 
easier way. Like for example not include the line break in the 
copy/paste buffer,


This is a bug. I've fixed it for the next update.

or handle the actual copy action simpler than using a popup menu. For 
example, if the subject was selectable as text, I could double-click 
on the word I wanted, copy, paste in the search bar.


The current implementation won't allow that easily. Eventually I'll 
completely replace it and then it'll hopefully be possible to select 
text.


Sure, I know that clicking on the subject has a special action, to get 
that thread, but can one not have that function as well, in a 
different way?


It doesn't show you the thread. It shows you all messages with the same 
subject body.


I think what I am saying is that its a bit annoying the subject is not 
really selectable text.


Agreed.

Or at least clean up the copy/paste buffer so that the trailing line 
break is not there.


Done.

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Re: [MlMt] Mailmate and BusyContacts

2015-08-16 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 14 Aug 2015, at 16:52, Jean-Pierre Gattuso wrote:

I did enable Spotlight and messages are shown in BusyContacts under 
activity. However, when one double-clicks on a message, it is Mail 
rather than MailMate which opens it. This is even though I have 
selected MailMate as the default email software in the Mail 
preferences.


I believe this relies on the default app for the `.eml` extension. 
Right-click a `.eml` file, select “Get Info”, switch to MailMate, 
and click “Change All...”.


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Re: [MlMt] Bug when copying subject line

2015-08-16 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 16 Aug 2015, at 17:17, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

>> Sure, I know that clicking on the subject has a special action, to get that 
>> thread, but can one not have that function as well, in a different way?
>
> It doesn't show you the thread. It shows you all messages with the same 
> subject body.

Aha, ok...then it is VERY CLOSE to what I want. The issue I have is that I get 
quite often messages forwarded to me with "sort of" the same subject, but not 
exactly the same. So I have to search for subjects that contain (subset) of the 
subject I get on the message.

Got it!

>> I think what I am saying is that its a bit annoying the subject is not 
>> really selectable text.
>
> Agreed.

But...I understand that it is hard to both handle select and mouse-up events on 
the same string. Apple is trying with some text it interprets as links, and 
that is not easy to manage.

>> Or at least clean up the copy/paste buffer so that the trailing line break 
>> is not there.
>
> Done.

Thanks!

   paf


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Re: [MlMt] Is there anyway to create a rule to tag messages which are *only* to me?

2015-08-16 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 14 Aug 2015, at 23:21, Kee Hinckley wrote:

In other words. My email address is in the To, and no other addresses 
are in the To or Cc.


Interesting question. What about this:

Recipient ▸ Correspondent “not exists”

Essentially it says to only select messages for which there are **no** 
“correspondents” (non-identity email addresses) in the recipient 
headers. This would even catch cases for which you have multiple email 
addresses in the recipient headers.


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Re: [MlMt] Bug when copying subject line

2015-08-16 Thread Kai Großjohann

On 16 Aug 2015, at 17:27, Patrik Fältström wrote:


On 16 Aug 2015, at 17:17, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Sure, I know that clicking on the subject has a special action, to 
get that thread, but can one not have that function as well, in a 
different way?


It doesn't show you the thread. It shows you all messages with the 
same subject body.


Aha, ok...then it is VERY CLOSE to what I want. The issue I have is 
that I get quite often messages forwarded to me with "sort of" the 
same subject, but not exactly the same. So I have to search for 
subjects that contain (subset) of the subject I get on the message.


If it could do that by searching (and if it showed you the query), then 
you could edit the query... :-)


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Re: [MlMt] possibly unpopular feature request

2015-08-16 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
Try the threaded view. It does an approximation of showing related thread 
messages. 

/max
http://about.me/maxandersen


> On 16 Aug 2015, at 15:46, Benny Kjær Nielsen  wrote:
> 
>> On 14 Aug 2015, at 0:33, Scott A. McIntyre wrote:
>> 
>> I'd really like some way to do this in MailMate.  When I select a message 
>> that is in a thread, that some sort of obvious visual clue is given to 
>> change the colour of other messages in the mailbox list for messages in that 
>> same thread.
>> 
>> Of course, this may already be possible and I just need to know the magic
> 
> Still not possible, sorry. I do think it makes a lot of sense when not 
> threading messages. It is a relatively simply feature, but it has to come 
> after some other planned changes to the messages outline.
> 
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Re: [MlMt] Thread Toolbar Button

2015-08-16 Thread Allie Martin
On 14 Aug 2015, at 3:47, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> No, currently you have to bind one yourself to `showThread:`.

Thanks!! As long as there's a way. 

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[MlMt] Mailmate and BusyContacts

2015-08-16 Thread Jean-Pierre Gattuso
I have done that. When I double-click on an .eml file in the Finder, it 
opens with MailMate. However, messages shown in the activity viewer of 
BusyContacts still open with Mail rather than MailMate. The problem may 
be with BusyContacts then.


Thanks,
Jean-Pierre


I believe this relies on the default app for the `.eml` extension.
Right-click a `.eml` file, select “Get Info”, switch to MailMate,
and click “Change All...”.



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