Re: [MlMt] How do I search in the Junk folder?
On 12 Aug 2015, at 16:13, Paul Hoffman wrote: On 11 Aug 2015, at 22:49, Lars Ippich wrote: If you want to search the Junk folder, just go to the Junk folder, enter your search terms in the bar and then press ⌥ + Return to tell MailMate to stay in the current folder for this search instead of jumping to All Messages. Thanks, that works. It's obscure, but it works. The “Default Mailbox ▸ Current Mailbox” item in the search menu is intended to be used to specify what you prefer by default. In general, any active search can be used to search any mailbox simply by choosing another mailbox. If the search begins in “All Messages” then you can still switch to “Junk” if you want to look in that mailbox. You can also ⌘-select “Junk” and “Deleted Messages” to make sure **all** messages are included in the search results. I think there was a low-level way to change what All Messages contained (currently it should be everything but Deleted Messages and Junk), but I cannot find that at the moment - maybe somebody else can help here. Yes, that would be lovely. There is no such setting. I'm not sure it makes much sense to have it as part of “All Messages” in general, but I guess there could be a setting to automatically select Junk and/or Deleted Messages when doing a search... @Paul: It is possible to filter the “All Messages” mailbox to, e.g., only contain the messages from the last year, but this cannot be used to extend the set to Junk and/or Deleted Messages (`MmAllMessagesFilter`). I suspect this was the setting you had in mind. This setting has, by the way, been superseded by the fact that conditions can be added to the “All Messages” mailbox itself. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate status (All things HTML)
On 9 Aug 2015, at 8:09, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
Don't know why it's not working then. Do you get any error messages in
the Terminal window if you try it after launching MailMate like this:
/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/MacOS/MailMate
I actually get very very little output when I run like this.
So no, does not get any errors affairs.
update to latest and removed pygmentize and no matter what I do things
like:
~~~c++
// This is C++ code
for(int i=0; i < 42; ++i)
printf("Hello worldn");
~~~
does not do anything but just make one line with markup. No
syntax highlighting nor request to install pygmentize ;/
Any idea ?
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Re: [MlMt] MailMate status (All things HTML)
On 13 Aug 2015, at 13:14, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
update to latest and removed pygmentize and no matter what I do things
like:
~~~c++
// This is C++ code
for(int i=0; i < 42; ++i)
printf("Hello worldn");
~~~
does not do anything but just make one line with markup. No
syntax highlighting nor request to install pygmentize ;/
Any idea ?
Not really. The fact that it results in one line is a sign that the
feature is enabled, but fails to do anything with the code for some
reason.
I'll contact you off list for further debugging.
(As you can see it works for me.)
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[MlMt] possibly unpopular feature request
Hi all, I think that the way that threads are presented in MailMate is precise and good, and it appeals to the part of my brain that still remembers using Mutt. The rest of my brain (the part that over a course of years has been lulled into expectations of rich text and Apple UIs) now thinks that it is cumbersome, however. In order to make the preview pane readable, I need to collapse big threads (think hundreds of messages). When a new message appears in the thread I need to expand it again and poke around to find out which sub-thread has the new mail. I like to see new mail at the top of the list, not the bottom. Perhaps that's part of my problem, since new mail in expanded threads in MailMate are arranged the other way round). The way that Apple Mail handles threads (new messages at the top of the conversation, no attempt at the mutt-style threading of individual replies) actually works far better for me than the way that MailMate currently does things. Again, I appreciate that my brain is broken and that I am wrong about many things. What are the chances that there could be a configurable option to use Mail.app-style presentation of threads as an alternative to what MailMate currently does? (Note for the record that simply switching back to Mail.app is no longer an option, since MailMate has given me expectations that mail clients should be fast and efficient, should not stall randomly and in particular should not invent thousand-message threads out of unrelated nonsense for fun.) Joe ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] possibly unpopular feature request
On 13 Aug 2015, at 11:13, Joe Abley wrote: What are the chances that there could be a configurable option to use Mail.app-style presentation of threads as an alternative to what MailMate currently does? (Note for the record that simply switching back to Mail.app is no longer an option, since MailMate has given me expectations that mail clients should be fast and efficient, should not stall randomly and in particular should not invent thousand-message threads out of unrelated nonsense for fun.) You're not alone. Since being introduced to the Gmail and Mail.app style of threading, I can't go back. :-( I'm 'broken' as well. So currently, I don't have threading enabled in MailMate. I was trying with it, but now work without it and use the 'Thread' option for particular messages when it would be useful to browse a particular thread in threaded view. — a Curtis m ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] How do I search in the Junk folder?
On 13 Aug 2015, at 0:17, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 12 Aug 2015, at 16:13, Paul Hoffman wrote: On 11 Aug 2015, at 22:49, Lars Ippich wrote: If you want to search the Junk folder, just go to the Junk folder, enter your search terms in the bar and then press ⌥ + Return to tell MailMate to stay in the current folder for this search instead of jumping to All Messages. Thanks, that works. It's obscure, but it works. The “Default Mailbox ▸ Current Mailbox” item in the search menu is intended to be used to specify what you prefer by default. Thanks, that was what I was looking for. Well, the "search menu" is what I was looking for, given that it didn't exist in the menu bar. I had even seen that the down arrow had previous searches, but I would have never thought that it also had configuration. Proposal: put "Default Mailbox for Search" in the Preferences dialog, and "Search Syntax" in the Help menu. --Paul Hoffman ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate status (All things HTML)
I believe this is what happened to me when I did the install steps
(git/config) before you do the update to MailMate (by downloading the new
version). Deleting the bundle that I downloaded from git and starting over
after stop/starting Mailmate worked.
Dave
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Benny Kjær Nielsen
wrote:
> On 13 Aug 2015, at 13:14, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>
> update to latest and removed pygmentize and no matter what I do things
> like:
>
> // This is C++ code
> for(int i=0; i < 42; ++i)
> printf("Hello worldn");
>
> does not do anything but just make one line with markup. No syntax
> highlighting nor request to install pygmentize ;/
>
> Any idea ?
>
> Not really. The fact that it results in one line is a sign that the
> feature is enabled, but fails to do anything with the code for some reason.
>
> I'll contact you off list for further debugging.
>
> (As you can see it works for me.)
>
> --
> Benny
>
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Re: [MlMt] MailMate status (All things HTML)
On 13 Aug 2015, at 12:55, David Green wrote: I believe this is what happened to me when I did the install steps (git/config) before you do the update to MailMate (by downloading the new version). Deleting the bundle that I downloaded from git and starting over after stop/starting Mailmate worked. Dave The issue I had was that I got lazy and just pasted the command from Benny's explanation: ``` mkdir -p ~/Library/Application\\ Support/MailMate/Bundles ``` Which created an "Application\" folder, which is not "Application Support", due to the double \\ and -p, and so the Bundle was at another folder path. Once I correct this the bundle worked. Thank you.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] possibly unpopular feature request
On 13 Aug 2015, at 11:19, Allie Martin wrote: You're not alone. Since being introduced to the Gmail and Mail.app style of threading, I can't go back. :-( I'm 'broken' as well. I changed my ways a little bit to adapt to the threading in MailMate. I have the keyboard 'h' letter to collapse the thread, and the letter 'l' to go the last message in a thread (regardless of if its new or not), and the letter 'n' to get to the next new message (which opens the thread if there is a new message within it). With these keystrokes, you can very quickly navigate a thread to the latest message and move to the next thread new message with 'n' or collapsing 'h' then moving up or down to another message. Hope this helps. Thank you. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] possibly unpopular feature request
On 13 Aug 2015, at 20:36, Gustavo Daniel Villarreal wrote: I changed my ways a little bit to adapt to the threading in MailMate. Thank you for suggesting this. I've now created keybindings for next and previous unread message and I believe this will help me a lot. The threads can be collapsed and I can still go to the unread message in a thread. Another thing that helps is to choose layout #5 "widescreen". It allows me to both see a long list of messages (so threads can be expanded) and see a lot of a given message. Need to be a bit careful with columns in the list of messages, though. Kai ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] check whether a recipient is in a certain group?
On 11 Aug 2015, at 16:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 15 Jul 2015, at 0:21, Shoshanna Green wrote: On 13 Jul 2015, at 19:01, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 13 Jul 2015, at 15:57, Shoshanna Green wrote: Is there any way to have MailMate check recipients against a list of approved addresses more directly? I think you might have answered this question yourself. Create a draft in an otherwise empty IMAP mailbox, put the email addresses in the body of the messages, and then create a check using a condition like: #recipient.address ~ $UUID.#unquoted (Use the UUID of the IMAP mailbox. Put it on the pasteboard using ⌘C after selecting the mailbox.) But I don't know if that really works. It tests a comparison method which is not available using the GUI and it has undergone little testing. Darn it, I was all excited about this, but I created the mailbox, the message with the list of addresses, and the condition check, and hitting SEND on a test message produced a spinning pizza followed by a crash. My quick attempt to reproduce this crash failed. Back to the old kludge, I guess, but I hope something better will be possible someday! If your draft is line separated like this: f...@bar.com b...@foo.com Then I think this might work: #recipient.address =[c] $UUID.#unquoted This is because `#unquoted` is actually split into 1 value per paragraph. I tried it again with the new form of the condition and got a spinning pizza and crash again, both with a draft message and with a message I had actually sent to myself, not just saved a draft of, as the only thing in the IMAP mailbox. In both cases the only text in the message was the list of addresses, one per line. But if it's working for you, clearly it should work! Would it help to send you a crash report? Or I guess you've got both of today's crash reports already, because I've ticked that box in Preferences-General. Well, not that I think this should be a higher priority than HTML support, but I'd be glad of help to get it working. Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] possibly unpopular feature request
Hi, The way that Apple Mail handles threads (new messages at the top of the conversation, no attempt at the mutt-style threading of individual replies) actually works far better for me than the way that MailMate currently does things. Again, I appreciate that my brain is broken and that I am wrong about many things. What are the chances that there could be a configurable option to use Mail.app-style presentation of threads as an alternative to what MailMate currently does? I'd like to make a somewhat tangential request here - I also *want* to use the Threading on MailMate, but, can't, due to the sheer volume, and indeed, how I prefer to sort messages, but part of what I do appreciate about Mail.app is that when you're not in thread mode, you can still visually see messages in the same thread in the message list pane. This makes it really easy to spot if you want to command-click and select/delete them all, or just want to visually scan where the messages are in the context of the rest of the folder. I'd really like some way to do this in MailMate. When I select a message that is in a thread, that some sort of obvious visual clue is given to change the colour of other messages in the mailbox list for messages in that same thread. Of course, this may already be possible and I just need to know the magic Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Thread Toolbar Button
Hi, Is there a keyboard shortcut or mouse/keyboard operator for doing what the 'thread' toolbar button does? Double-click or Shift-Double-click brings up the correspondence view. — Curtis acm ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Multiple SMTP servers set for a single account?
I think I know the answer to this, but in case I'm missing something… I'm having an issue with my mail host DKIM-signing my outgoing messages; there's one mailing list I'm on that actually verifies the DKIM signature before allowing the message to post, and the verification is failing. Hence, my messages aren't posting. I see in the docs where multiple accounts can use one SMTP account, but I don't see any mention of (easily) allowing a single account to use more than one SMTP server; it look like a single account gets configured with a single SMTP server (which could be used in more than one account, obviously). Is this correct? My only course of action is to explicitly change the details of the SMTP server on the account in question to use my credentials for a different SMTP server, right? randy ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Bug when copying subject line
Hi, One of the most common actions I do is to: - Ctrl-click on the subject line to get a popup menu - Select the only alternative, Copy - Type "s " in the search area - Paste what I copied - Remove the trailing line break - Sometimes edit the text to a subset of the subject - Press return This is a bit cumbersome, and I ask whether one can not do this in an easier way. Like for example not include the line break in the copy/paste buffer, or handle the actual copy action simpler than using a popup menu. For example, if the subject was selectable as text, I could double-click on the word I wanted, copy, paste in the search bar. Sure, I know that clicking on the subject has a special action, to get that thread, but can one not have that function as well, in a different way? I think what I am saying is that its a bit annoying the subject is not really selectable text. Or at least clean up the copy/paste buffer so that the trailing line break is not there. Patrik signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
