[MlMt] Address scheme
By mistake I just sent a confidential document to an entire mailing list. Normally, I do check what’s in the address field before sending, but I was in a hurry and forgot. The recipient address looked like this: "Firstname Lastname something at gmail.com [listname]" yahoogroups.com> The email was intended for the recipient with the gmail address, but instead went to a Yahoogroup. When I addressed the email, only the first part was visible in the address field, which probably contributed to me not noticing the wrong address. As I also have a valid address to the same person – "Firstname Lastname something at gmail.com" – that pops up in the “To” field, I suppose that Mailmate somehow is trying to be helpful by picking up these kind of addresses from previous emails to this and other mailing lists. Is it possible to get rid of this helpfulness? -- Thomas ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Address scheme
On 16 Apr 2015, at 6:15, Thomas Grundberg wrote: The recipient address looked like this: "Firstname Lastname something at gmail.com [listname]" yahoogroups.com> I've noted this most annoying yahoogroups From name munging system apparently put in place to protect subscriber addresses from spammers. The email was intended for the recipient with the gmail address, but instead went to a Yahoogroup. When I addressed the email, only the first part was visible in the address field, which probably contributed to me not noticing the wrong address. Interesting that only the first part was visible. hmmm. Usually, I see the whole address. But then, I typically send to only one address and only occasionally, to multiple recipients. As I also have a valid address to the same person – "Firstname Lastname something at gmail.com" – that pops up in the “To” field, I suppose that Mailmate somehow is trying to be helpful by picking up these kind of addresses from previous emails to this and other mailing lists. Yes. But it's not MailMate doing this but your system contacts. You likely have your system contacts syncing with your contacts in your provider address book. Is it possible to get rid of this helpfulness? What I had to do to prevent this was to disable the automatic creation of new contacts for 'unknown' recipients in my email provider address book that syncs with my Mac's contacts.. — a Curtis m ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Address scheme
2015-04-16 kl 16:48 skrev Allie Martin: Interesting that only the first part was visible. hmmm. Usually, I see the whole address. Oh, sorry, I meant to say that the addresses only are partially visible in the pop-down list. After choosing an entry from the list, the whole address is visible in the “To” field. Yes. But it's not MailMate doing this but your system contacts. You likely have your system contacts syncing with your contacts in your provider address book. Thanks for the suggestion, Allie. I had to check, but the address book at my provider is empty. I’m using Contacts/iCloud for my addressing needs. Well, still a mystery then. These strange hybrid addresses aren’t present in Mail (= Apple’s mail client). -- Thomas ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Address scheme
On 16 Apr 2015, at 10:14, Thomas Grundberg wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Allie. I had to check, but the address book at my provider is empty. I’m using Contacts/iCloud for my addressing needs. Well, still a mystery then. These strange hybrid addresses aren’t present in Mail (= Apple’s mail client). What I'd suggest is to go in the contacts and do a search for the yahoogroup. Delete all the entries there. After sending to the group again, see if a contact has been added again. It shouldn't be happening if you're only using MailMate. — a Curtis m ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Address scheme
2015-04-16 kl 17:40 skrev Allie Martin: What I'd suggest is to go in the contacts and do a search for the yahoogroup. Delete all the entries there. After sending to the group again, see if a contact has been added again. It shouldn't be happening if you're only using MailMate. Thanks again. I really do want to agree with your last sentence. I followed your advice and deleted every reference to yahoogroups.com in Contacts. The strange adresses do not appear in Contacts, however, only in Mailmate, and the result is exactly the same as before, thusly: If I start to type the name of the Yahoogroup, the addresses of all the individuals to whose posts I’ve responded appear in the pop-down list. A screen dump to elucidate my dilemma (names and addresses obfuscated to protect the innocent): http://grundberg.se/temp/address_confusion.png If these aren’t coming from Mailmate nor Contacts, then I really don’t know which black arts are involved. -- Thomas ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Address scheme
On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:25, Thomas Grundberg wrote: Thanks again. I really do want to agree with your last sentence. :-) I followed your advice and deleted every reference to yahoogroups.com in Contacts. The strange adresses do not appear in Contacts, however, only in Mailmate, and the result is exactly the same as before, thusly: Hmmm. This is what I did. - I deleted all yahoo groups addresses from my Mac contacts and from any other address book that my Mac contacts may be syncing with. - I then disabled the option to automatically add addresses of 'unknown' recipients that I'm sending messages to. In Gmail, the option is as shown in this screenshot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41751443/gmail_option.png For LuxSci, my other email provider, the option is as shown here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41751443/luxsci_option.png It was not until I disabled those two options that the 'problem' ended for me. I really disliked when writing a fresh message to a yahoo group that a members name would appear. Very tacky when I'm not writing to the member specifically. I no longer have the problem except that I now have to manually type the yahoo group address or copy it from another message. LuxSci simply uses the system address book. I don't see from my personal experience of it where it recalls addresses by itself. Maybe it does, but that's not my experience, not unless the address is auto-added to my mail provider address book for which I connect to with my phone using Exchange leading ultimately to the syncing of those addresses with my Mac contacts. — Curtis acm ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate