[ILUG-Cochin.org] First Meeting of Indian Libre User Group Details

2009-04-18 Thread ILUG Cochin (Indian Libre User Group)
Warm Greetings To The FOSS Community,

The first meeting of the "Indian Libre User Group" was held on
March 22 2009.

Following is a brief snapshot of the meeting.

Date: 22-03-2009
Time: 2:15pm - 6.00pm
Venue: Internet Club, IInd Floor, AMI Trust Building,
Broadway Enclave, Broadway, Ernakulam
Attendance : 29

The turnout at the meeting was pretty impressive and just like last time,
there were people from different walks of life.

The attendees were enjoying a new video of RMS as everyone was
arriving.

The Meeting started of with the customary self introduction.

Introduction to Free Software, Open source software and Licenses
~~~

As always the meeting kicked off with the usual discussion on Free
Software and the significance of Freedoms. The difference of Free
Software and Open Source software was highlighted. The need for
software Licenses and the GNU GPL were discussed. The concept
of copyleft was briefly explained. The discussion was more lively
compared to previous meetings.

Agenda : Community based curriculum
~~~

The agenda which was planned as part of our ongoing initiative to bring
teachers closer to the Free Software Community.

We had 5 teachers attending the meeting this time.

The discussion started off by discussing the important skills which are
the basis for IT Education.
Some important skills that were suggested by the attendees were the
following:
- Typing skills
- Internet Searching/ Browsing skills
- General computer knowledge.
- Application usage skills
- Programming skills

- Some people pointed out the fact that the existing curriculum
was based on the above skillsets, but the teachers were not sufficiently
trained to do justice with the specific subjects.

- The syllabus was also outdated or rather inefficient in bringing out the
core skills in students, for these there needs to be a revamp of the syllabus
not a complete makeover.

- There was mixed response among the audience to the fact that a community
based
curriculum would never appeal the decision makers.

- Community based textbook was the need of the hour and a textbook created
by the community
would definitely be accepted by the decision makers said a few.

- But the fact that the initiative was primarily aimed to shape a better
future for students
and the community did not have any expectations from any section of society,
as is the community remains always said the moderator.

- The teachers explained that the basic technical issues faced in schools,
were the major hurdle that was preventing the teachers from gaining
confidence
to use Free Software.

- The teachers also emphasized the lack of proper knowledge among the
top level trainers. The direct impact was that the knowledge
was almost nil when it finally reached the students.

- The Book sprint initiative by the Free Software Foundation to create
a community based text book (that would go into production) based on
the GNU GPL, was announced during the discussion.
http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/book-sprint
http://en.flossmanuals.net/gnulinux

- A brief presentation on the aim of the initiative, the process of
collaboration and how the community can contribute was shown.

- The moderator emphasized the importance of such an initiative among the
Free
Software Community in Kerala to create textbooks for students.

Since the agenda discussion just was a tip of the iceberg, it was planned
to continue the same in the next meeting. Few action items for a better
discussion in the next meeting were suggested as follows:
- Attendees should try to study the existing textbooks and try to
determine the shortcomings, if they feel any and think of improvements
- Also they should think of important ideas of how Free Software can
be effectively taught at schools.

This brought an end to the agenda discussion.

After the Agenda the attendees assembled in front of the AMI trust
building for a pose
with the new group banner. Thereafter they moved to have tea and snacks.


Technical Presentation : An introduction to Python programming
~~~

Sameer gave an introduction to Programming in General explaining High Level
and Machine Level languages.

Sreenadh explained the basics of Python Programming with a few basic
programs.

Sameer then explained basics of Visual Python through a simple program to
bounce a ball against two walls.

Conclusion
~~

The meeting concluded by thanking the people who helped conduct the meeting
and all the attendees.

The meeting concluded at 6.00pm.

We thank all the attendees for coming and urge them to put their feedback
on the mailing list
so we can improve future meetings.

And hope the next meeting on 26/04/2009 is bigger and better.

Photos and Details of the meeting will be available on the web site soon.

Attendees

Manu Ram
Harikrishnan T R
Sanjai
Sreenadh
Hari K T
Hari Raj K
Manoj Kumar
Dev

Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] KeralaInfo

2009-04-18 Thread Arun Raveendran
Brilliant! Although a little slow, but you can see that a lot of effort has
gone into this. Good work.

Regards,

Arun Raveendran


On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Mohammed Rashad  wrote:

> *Resource Maps of Kerala are available..*
>
> I had done a project as a part of final year B.Tech course using free
> software.
> Basic themes such as roads,railways,highways,place names,rivers etc. are
> done.
> Here is my homepage : http://keralainfo.web4all.in/
>
> You can find application here:
> http://keralainfo.web4all.in/resources/
>
>
> Please post your valuable comments and feedback.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mohammed Rashad K.M
> +919605476742
>
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Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] terminal mode pdf reader

2009-04-18 Thread sanalkumar mr
Dear all..

http://linuxtuts.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-to-view-pdf-file-from-console-in.html
this link given by Mahesh was helpful and the given script is ok..thanks
a lot for the support.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Mahesh Aravind wrote:

>
> Dear Unni,
>
> --- On Thu, 16/4/09, unni krishnan  wrote:
>
> > There is no console based pdf reader,
>
> Are you sure?
>
> > as far as I know. But you can convert PDF to text or html
>
> "Ignorance is the real darkness" -- Louis Braille
>
> Check this link:
> http://www.google.com/linux?q=Viewing+PDF+files+in+console
>
> > and can use the text/html reader in console to view it. The
> > package you need to use are pdftotext and pdftohtml.
>
> You could instead try ggv(1)
>
> -- Mahesh
>
>
> Is there anything Java can't slow?
>-- seen on Slashdot
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] KeralaInfo

2009-04-18 Thread unni krishnan
Hello Mohammed,

  Good one, I like it. Keep innovating, all the best :-)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Mohammed Rashad wrote:

> *Resource Maps of Kerala are available..*
>
> I had done a project as a part of final year B.Tech course using free
> software.
> Basic themes such as roads,railways,highways,place names,rivers etc. are
> done.
> Here is my homepage : http://keralainfo.web4all.in/
>
> You can find application here:
> http://keralainfo.web4all.in/resources/
>
>
> Please post your valuable comments and feedback.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mohammed Rashad K.M
> +919605476742
>
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>


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Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] terminal mode pdf reader

2009-04-18 Thread unni krishnan
Hello Mahesh,

> Are you sure?

  I never used ggv. Also my debian installation does not contain that pacage
in default installation. But sure that in the repo ( Not ggv, its gv ? )


debian:~# aptitude search gv | grep -i pdf
p   gv  - PostScript and PDF viewer for
X
debian:~#


  It says it is for X ( Not done much research, I will check it later )

  Can you give a real life example to use that command.

The link
http://linuxtuts.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-to-view-pdf-file-from-console-in.htmlitself
uses the pdftohtml as I told.

Anyway thank you for poitingout new one ( Gv ).



On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Mahesh Aravind wrote:

>
> Dear Unni,
>
> --- On Thu, 16/4/09, unni krishnan  wrote:
>
> > There is no console based pdf reader,
>
> Are you sure?
>
> > as far as I know. But you can convert PDF to text or html
>
> "Ignorance is the real darkness" -- Louis Braille
>
> Check this link:
> http://www.google.com/linux?q=Viewing+PDF+files+in+console
>
> > and can use the text/html reader in console to view it. The
> > package you need to use are pdftotext and pdftohtml.
>
> You could instead try ggv(1)
>
> -- Mahesh
>
>
> Is there anything Java can't slow?
>-- seen on Slashdot
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Free Software Speech

2009-04-18 Thread Jos Collin
It is too much to upload as I have a very slow internet connection
here. Unfortunately, most of the speeches are videos, which always
shows the face of the speaker (mostly RMS) :-). Also I don't think
that the web hosting sites will provide me a space of 4GB. Anyway, I
will bring a few copies when I come for the meeting.

- Jos Collin

On 18/04/2009, Althaf Backer  wrote:
> I think you can make use of p7zip to compress the file to greater extent
> ,4GB is too much to download.
>
>
>
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> I mailed you  with 10KB/s connection what about you?
>


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Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] KeralaInfo

2009-04-18 Thread John Joseph

Hi Mohammed 
   Good work . I failed my attempt to do some similar project using postgis , 
kmap few years back . later on the project for scrapped . My problem was that I 
did not have a mentor who could guide me .
Good work , keep it up 
   thanks 
   JOseph John 



--- On Fri, 17/4/09, Mohammed Rashad  wrote:

> From: Mohammed Rashad 
> Subject: [ILUG-Cochin.org] KeralaInfo
> To: mailinglist@ilug-cochin.org
> Date: Friday, 17 April, 2009, 10:10 PM
> *Resource Maps of Kerala are available..*
> 
> I had done a project as a part of final year B.Tech course
> using free
> software.
> Basic themes such as roads,railways,highways,place
> names,rivers etc. are
> done.
> Here is my homepage : http://keralainfo.web4all.in/
> 
> You can find application here:
> http://keralainfo.web4all.in/resources/
> 
> 
> Please post your valuable comments and feedback.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Mohammed Rashad K.M
> +919605476742
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Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] terminal mode pdf reader

2009-04-18 Thread Fayaz useful
Thanks...

I just fell in love with my life...


On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:28, Mahesh Aravind wrote:

>
> Fayaz,
>
> --- On Fri, 17/4/09, Fayaz useful  wrote:
>
> > If your interested to know, the backend
> > of pdf viewers is a command called 'gs'
> > I just fell in love with my life...
> >
>
> The "command" gs(1) is not just a command. GhostScript is an implementation
> of Adobe PostScript interpreter specification.
>
> gs(1) can interpret PostScript and Portable Document Format files (PDF),
> and either dispaly/convert them to various forms depending on the whim of
> the user.
>
> AFAIK, GS is distributed by Alladin Enterprises. Version X they sell it for
> money, under a restrictive license. Version (X-1) they distribute under GPL
> under a free license.
>
> gv(1) is the "command" (GhostView) used to view PostScript/PDF files. I'm
> not sure, but my best belief is that ggv(1) is a replacement and a cleaner
> implementaion of GV.
>
> -- Mahesh
>
>
> Is there anything Java can't slow?
>-- seen on Slashdot
>
>
>
>
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