Anyone try the iPod 6th gen?
Hey all, My sighted boyfriend just got the 6th generation nano and holy cow is it tiny haha! Thought I'd ask ya'll if you've gotten one and how you like it? Did a search here but just came up with podcasts. I'd like to know what you think. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Anyone try the iPod 6th gen?
Hmmm, so you're saying the iPod Touch is better than the Nano 6th gen? I don't do anything with iPods other than listen to music and books. I like the 5th gen because of the built in speaker. It's awesome for reading in bed. Not sure if the 6th gen has it. You have to pay for something to use the Touch? I've never been clear on how that accesses the internet, or why I'd want it when I have a laptop. I do some commuting though. What do you have to buy to use the internet on it when you're on the bus? Hmmm now I've opened a can of worms when I was just curious about the 6th gen haha!! Maybe I should get a touch since I can't get an iPhone since I won't switch cell providers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Safari Update
Hey all, Haven't had any problems, so haven't needed to post. I searched to see how ya'll were feeling about the latest Safari update, and it seems I'm not alone. Safari keeps freaking out when I navigate by headers on certain sites, and it's really freaking out with Blogger now. When I interact with text, I can't use command up arrow and down arrow to get from top to bottom, and when I'm interacting, it won't let me go line by line in a text edit field. So the only way to edit is to go word by word. Also, when I click the "select all" link for labels, Safari dies and I have to restart it. Every time. So I don't do that anymore and I've started composing blogs in text edit. This takes me back to being afraid to install Windows updates. I'm still using Leopard. Is anyone having problems with the latest Safari in Snow? Just had to complain. I send the error reports to Apple every time since at least with Apple, I have faith that they are listening. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari Update
Looks like I'm the only one having problems in text edit fields. Hmmm. I don't use audible and I don't use the full FB just the mobile one. It's great; doesn't have all the fluff lol. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iPod Nano 5g video recorder
Hi everyone, Has anyone tried the video recorder in the new iPod Nano 5g? I just ordered it. It sounds like it whould be accessible, with spoken menus turned on. The tutorial said you just scroll to video recorder and use the center button to start and stop. I don't know how I'll do shooting video blind, but I'm getting a guide dog and want to get video and audio. I did a search but didn't find any discussions. Has anyone tried this? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes "store" and "Itunes Store"
I think the first "store" is like a heading. It's in all caps. Right below "iTunes store" is "purchased, store playlist" so I think the first "store" is like a category thing. If you stop interacting with the table while focusing on "store" and then interact with the table again, the focus is on "iTunes store". I don't think there is much of a real purpose, but I've wondered this myself :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iTunes lost all my stuff
Hi all, I am restraining myself from calling Apple until tomorrow. I just did the latest iTunes software update, and when it was done, it asked me to pick a library. Huh? I think I just selected music. Well, all my stuff is gone. All of it. Gone. I'm freaking out and have shut down iTunes until I calm down and/or hopefully get some answers. If you have any ideas, please, please tell me. I have all my stuff on my iPods, but not on a hard back up. Thanks... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes lost all my stuff
Everything still appears to be on the computer. It looks as though iTunes just got lost. So, I guess that's what I need to fix, but I'm totally braindead now, so I'll check in here tomorrow and see if there are posts. Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > Wow, Randi, let me know if I can help, once you've calmed down. The > first thing to do is go through Finder and confirm that your stuff > isn't still on your hard drive, just not being recognized by Itunes. > If you want, Skype me or something and we'll work this through, > because I don't think a full scale panic meltdown is in order... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes lost all my stuff
Ok, this is good stuff to look at tomorrow. Do you know if there's anyway to restore iTunes to before the update? Then I can just make sure that library thing doesn't happen. I wish I had known, or just quit it. Sounds like fixing it will be hard. Scott Howell wrote: > All you have to do is simply quit iTUnes in most cases and just restart it. I > find where the issue shows itself is when you accidentally hold the option > key down while iTunes is loading. This allows you to select an alternate > iTunes library. WHenever iTunes comes up and asks me for a library, I just > quit and relaunch iTunes and all is well. > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > > > Hello. In the future, when ITunes asks you to choose a library, you should > > browse to your music/itunes folder, then push the choose library button or > > whatever it is called.. That's actually where the Itunes library is. > > That's what I have to do a lot of times when software updates come out. > > Unfortunately, since you didn't do that this time, I'm not sure how to > > change it back. > > > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I am restraining myself from calling Apple until tomorrow. I just did > >> the latest iTunes software update, and when it was done, it asked me > >> to pick a library. Huh? I think I just selected music. Well, all my > >> stuff is gone. All of it. Gone. I'm freaking out and have shut down > >> iTunes until I calm down and/or hopefully get some answers. If you > >> have any ideas, please, please tell me. I have all my stuff on my > >> iPods, but not on a hard back up. > >> > >> Thanks... > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >> > > > > Ryan Mann > > email: rmann0...@gmail.com > > phone:386-383-5175 > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes lost all my stuff
Hmmm. Well since you're saying the problem occured because I might have held down the option key, I wonder if I launch iTunes and hold the option key, if it will ask me about the library again. I might try that when I get to where I can tackle this problem. All the other options sound really daunting, so I'd rather find the easiest route. I also thought about uninstalling iTunes and re-downloading it. I wonder if that would do it. Scott Howell wrote: > SOmeone had previously recommended you either direct iTunes to use the > previous copy of the library or just copy the library from the previous > iTunes library folder back into the top-level of the iTunes folder. Of course > if you use Time Machine, you can always restore the previous library from > there as well. > If all that fails, you can always reimport all of your music and if it is all > tagged properly, you should end up with the same library you had before the > upgrade. One other suggestion, when launching any program, instead of > pressing VO-spacebar on the item, use command-o. This avoids the potential > for the option key being trapped by the program, which is probably what > happen. > On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:52 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > Ok, this is good stuff to look at tomorrow. Do you know if there's > > anyway to restore iTunes to before the update? Then I can just make > > sure that library thing doesn't happen. I wish I had known, or just > > quit it. Sounds like fixing it will be hard. > > > > > > Scott Howell wrote: > >> All you have to do is simply quit iTUnes in most cases and just restart > >> it. I find where the issue shows itself is when you accidentally hold the > >> option key down while iTunes is loading. This allows you to select an > >> alternate iTunes library. WHenever iTunes comes up and asks me for a > >> library, I just quit and relaunch iTunes and all is well. > >> > >> On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > >> > >>> Hello. In the future, when ITunes asks you to choose a library, you > >>> should browse to your music/itunes folder, then push the choose library > >>> button or whatever it is called.. That's actually where the Itunes > >>> library is. That's what I have to do a lot of times when software > >>> updates come out. Unfortunately, since you didn't do that this time, I'm > >>> not sure how to change it back. > >>> > >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, rayna424 wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> I am restraining myself from calling Apple until tomorrow. I just did > >>>> the latest iTunes software update, and when it was done, it asked me > >>>> to pick a library. Huh? I think I just selected music. Well, all my > >>>> stuff is gone. All of it. Gone. I'm freaking out and have shut down > >>>> iTunes until I calm down and/or hopefully get some answers. If you > >>>> have any ideas, please, please tell me. I have all my stuff on my > >>>> iPods, but not on a hard back up. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks... > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Ryan Mann > >>> email: rmann0...@gmail.com > >>> phone:386-383-5175 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >>> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTunes lost all my stuff
It worked! I had tried it early but I don't think I held the option key in time. This time it worked!!! Yay Thank you Doggy handlers unite! Hahahaha! Yay!!! Jessi and Goldina wrote: > hey Randi! > holding down the option key when you launch iTunes will bring up the dialog > about the library. that's how you switch from one library to the next. do > that and find your library and you should be good to go! and that's how you > can make more than one library! > On 2010-02-08, at 6:35 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > Hmmm. Well since you're saying the problem occured because I might > > have held down the option key, I wonder if I launch iTunes and hold > > the option key, if it will ask me about the library again. I might try > > that when I get to where I can tackle this problem. All the other > > options sound really daunting, so I'd rather find the easiest route. I > > also thought about uninstalling iTunes and re-downloading it. I wonder > > if that would do it. > > > > > > > > Scott Howell wrote: > >> SOmeone had previously recommended you either direct iTunes to use the > >> previous copy of the library or just copy the library from the previous > >> iTunes library folder back into the top-level of the iTunes folder. Of > >> course if you use Time Machine, you can always restore the previous > >> library from there as well. > >> If all that fails, you can always reimport all of your music and if it is > >> all tagged properly, you should end up with the same library you had > >> before the upgrade. One other suggestion, when launching any program, > >> instead of pressing VO-spacebar on the item, use command-o. This avoids > >> the potential for the option key being trapped by the program, which is > >> probably what happen. > >> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:52 PM, rayna424 wrote: > >> > >>> Ok, this is good stuff to look at tomorrow. Do you know if there's > >>> anyway to restore iTunes to before the update? Then I can just make > >>> sure that library thing doesn't happen. I wish I had known, or just > >>> quit it. Sounds like fixing it will be hard. > >>> > >>> > >>> Scott Howell wrote: > >>>> All you have to do is simply quit iTUnes in most cases and just restart > >>>> it. I find where the issue shows itself is when you accidentally hold > >>>> the option key down while iTunes is loading. This allows you to select > >>>> an alternate iTunes library. WHenever iTunes comes up and asks me for a > >>>> library, I just quit and relaunch iTunes and all is well. > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hello. In the future, when ITunes asks you to choose a library, you > >>>>> should browse to your music/itunes folder, then push the choose library > >>>>> button or whatever it is called.. That's actually where the Itunes > >>>>> library is. That's what I have to do a lot of times when software > >>>>> updates come out. Unfortunately, since you didn't do that this time, > >>>>> I'm not sure how to change it back. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, rayna424 wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am restraining myself from calling Apple until tomorrow. I just did > >>>>>> the latest iTunes software update, and when it was done, it asked me > >>>>>> to pick a library. Huh? I think I just selected music. Well, all my > >>>>>> stuff is gone. All of it. Gone. I'm freaking out and have shut down > >>>>>> iTunes until I calm down and/or hopefully get some answers. If you > >>>>>> have any ideas, please, please tell me. I have all my stuff on my > >>>>>> iPods, but not on a hard back up. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. &g
Re: iTunes lost all my stuff
Yesh. I was on the way to getting there after it was explained that the option key started this mess, but it didn't work the first time I tried it. So, so glad I tried it again. Now I can import the Stephen King book I wanted to import without fear lol! Jessi and Goldina wrote: > haha yay!! glad it worked and you don't have to rebuild your library from > scratch!! > yay, us doggie handlers got it goin' on!! lol :D > On 2010-02-08, at 7:54 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > It worked! I had tried it early but I don't think I held the option > > key in time. This time it worked!!! Yay Thank you Doggy > > handlers unite! Hahahaha! Yay!!! > > > > > > Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> hey Randi! > >> holding down the option key when you launch iTunes will bring up the > >> dialog about the library. that's how you switch from one library to the > >> next. do that and find your library and you should be good to go! and > >> that's how you can make more than one library! > >> On 2010-02-08, at 6:35 AM, rayna424 wrote: > >> > >>> Hmmm. Well since you're saying the problem occured because I might > >>> have held down the option key, I wonder if I launch iTunes and hold > >>> the option key, if it will ask me about the library again. I might try > >>> that when I get to where I can tackle this problem. All the other > >>> options sound really daunting, so I'd rather find the easiest route. I > >>> also thought about uninstalling iTunes and re-downloading it. I wonder > >>> if that would do it. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Scott Howell wrote: > >>>> SOmeone had previously recommended you either direct iTunes to use the > >>>> previous copy of the library or just copy the library from the previous > >>>> iTunes library folder back into the top-level of the iTunes folder. Of > >>>> course if you use Time Machine, you can always restore the previous > >>>> library from there as well. > >>>> If all that fails, you can always reimport all of your music and if it > >>>> is all tagged properly, you should end up with the same library you had > >>>> before the upgrade. One other suggestion, when launching any program, > >>>> instead of pressing VO-spacebar on the item, use command-o. This avoids > >>>> the potential for the option key being trapped by the program, which is > >>>> probably what happen. > >>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:52 PM, rayna424 wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Ok, this is good stuff to look at tomorrow. Do you know if there's > >>>>> anyway to restore iTunes to before the update? Then I can just make > >>>>> sure that library thing doesn't happen. I wish I had known, or just > >>>>> quit it. Sounds like fixing it will be hard. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Scott Howell wrote: > >>>>>> All you have to do is simply quit iTUnes in most cases and just > >>>>>> restart it. I find where the issue shows itself is when you > >>>>>> accidentally hold the option key down while iTunes is loading. This > >>>>>> allows you to select an alternate iTunes library. WHenever iTunes > >>>>>> comes up and asks me for a library, I just quit and relaunch iTunes > >>>>>> and all is well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello. In the future, when ITunes asks you to choose a library, you > >>>>>>> should browse to your music/itunes folder, then push the choose > >>>>>>> library button or whatever it is called.. That's actually where the > >>>>>>> Itunes library is. That's what I have to do a lot of times when > >>>>>>> software updates come out. Unfortunately, since you didn't do that > >>>>>>> this time, I'm not sure how to change it back. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 6:12 PM, rayna424 wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I am restraining myself from calling Apple until tomorrow. I just did > >>>>>>>> the late
Re: More list biz, please read…
Hi Everyone. First I gotta say that this group has been so very helpful, and if I made it sound like I didn't want emails, I didn't mean it that way. I did have a member say something in that regard and I felt terrible. I've always made some great friends here by talking in email. That said, I'll clarify what I had said earlier. I'm brand new to email lists. Before I went blind, I did forums and it was great, because everything was in the forum in one tidy place. So when I joined this group, I selected in my settings that I would view group online only. Then I started getting emails in my mailbox. I use gmail so I thought they were all people responding to my post privately. The way gmail works is that emails using the same subject fall into a conversation. At least thats what I thought. Whats happening for me is, google groups communicates with gmail since they're both google. So if someone replys to me directly from my post, it falls into the same quote gmail conversation, as the replies I get here on the board. Because even though I have email turned off, I guess the way the group settings are, you automatically get replies in your email from topics you've started. Is that right? So I was getting incredibly confused, getting so many emails in my box that I was up to thirty or so. That along with trying to understand my computer had me in tears the other night LOL. I am in no way complaining about getting help, and I am in no way saying not to email me directly. I guess I'd just rather not not get replies that people post to the board to arrive in my inbox as well. I come here to read stuff so its pointless to get in my inbox too. I feel like I shouldn't talk since I'm a newbie, but if I was affected this way as a newbie, I just think about future newbies. And this board just plain kicks butt as far as I'm oncerned. Ya'll are the nicest people I've found as far as techie help and fun chats in my email. So, thats my two cents. And thank you for clarifying that we can post in threads to our heart's content as long as its on topic and not one liners. I used to moderate a forum, so I understand completely the on topc. Oh and as far as sending to author only, thats what the button, reply to author, does, right? Thanks for all your help everyone, and please don't think I don't want emails k? Smiles and hugs and a million thanks, RandiOh ps, I just listened to what I wrote and heard that I typed I always make friends here and I meant to type I already made friends here tee hee. Jacob Schmude wrote: > Hi > I have to agree, especially when all the other lists I'm on do it the > way we used to (reply goes to the group). I wish most email clients > had a reply to author function, but I've only seen that in a precious > few clients over the years. Apple Mail isn't one of them, but I'd > rather have to grab the original sender's email than accidentally keep > topics off list that should stay here. Not only that, but I find > getting two copies of messages (when reply all is used on a message I > wrote) to be a serious annoyance. > Just my $.02. > > > > On Feb 27, 2009, at 23:29, John Weir wrote: > > > Cara, You wanted comments: I think this process is backwards, at > > least in the way I think. Reply results in sending a note to only > > the writer, reply all results in two messages, one to the sender and > > one to the group that also ends up with the sender. Better to have > > the reply address the group, then this will go to both and if one > > wants to get someone privately, let them grab the persons email > > address that is listed as the sender that is on the header also, > > and send that person an email privately. I also find my self sending > > direct to sender stuff that should have gone out on the group > > mentally thinking that send all will dump two messages in the > > senders box. Vickie Weir > > > > Cara Quinn wrote: > >>Hey All, as promised, I wanted to check in with y'all about the > >> new > >> list settings. Randi and Alex, I just read your posts with your > >> thoughts on such, so that's cool. I've also been in touch with a few > >> others, but I just want to post this list-wide so people can contact > >> me directly this weekend if they'd like. > >> > >>I'd like to know how we're all getting on with this?… Are people > >> receiving double posts?… Are people finding that they're ending up > >> emailing others privately when they mean to email the list?… > >> > >>Please do let me know these sorts of things, K? > >> > >>I'll leave the new settings in place over the weekend but if these > >> sorts of issues are a prob for newbies and such, then we'll need to > >> consider something else. > >> > >>The last thing I want to do is make this list experience a pain > >> for > >> peeps! > >> > >>Okay, on to something else. > >> > >>Randi has mentioned that She's been getting a whole lot of off- > >> list > >> responses which she'd personally rather see on-
Almost got yahoo, got a problem
Hi all. Through your help, I've gotten much closer. I'm gonna describe what I'm running in to. I go to doc. I arrow to downloads. I arrow and bring up the menu and and managed to open downloads. I do command O to open yahoo. It brings up the license agreement. I select I agree. Then it says, system has new window. Finder has new window. And the nothing. No keys I hit do anything. It just beeps at me. I tried VO space, command O, shift arrow, just the arrows. Enter, tab. It all just beeps. I give up and am able to bring up spotlight to get back to Safari. What am I doing? Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Almost got yahoo, got a problem
Hi guys, I've gotten a few replies to this in my email that aren't here so I'm just gonna do a general reply here. Some of what has been suggested is feeling a little too advanced for me haha. I am accessing yahoo im from the downloads folder. I go to doc and then to downloads and open it from there. When I click on the disk icon, thats when it brings up the license agreement. I agree and thats when it says system has new window, finder has new window. Thats when it gets lost. I forgot to pay attention to the file extension to know whether I need to install it or move it or whatever. Quite honestly I'm thinking about giving up on it LOL. There are just people on my contacts list who I've lost touch with. I'm talking with someone on the phone on Tuesday, so that will probably get me further than trying stuff from the messages. I'll kep playing with it though. I've navigated around a lot more today thanks to what I've learned from ya'll. I managed to launch ichat and bring up my old aim account, but it didn't bring up my old contacts. Slow but sure, slow but sure. :) Fonzie wrote: > Hey there, how goes it? > > I hope all i well. > > Hmm, perhaps VO has lost focus on where your supposed to be? > > Try the following. > > Application Chooser Menu > > See what is on there. You heard, Finder has new window, System has > new window, correct? Well, those will appear in your application > chooser menu, of which you can arrow up and down. To expand that > item, just hit your right arrow, and a new menu will pop up, upon > which, arrowing up and down, will giv eyou what is there. See what > you find under that area. Pay close attention to what is under the > system area, as that is wher eyou will most likely want to be going. > > Also, if you try holding Command, and then hitting tab, while still > holding command, you can cycle through the programs openned See if > you find yahoo anywhere, and if so, let go once found, and see if you > can continue using VO from there on. > > Report back what you find. > > Take care > > Fonzie. > > On Feb 28, 2009, at 5:20 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Hi all. Through your help, I've gotten much closer. I'm gonna describe > > what I'm running in to. > > > > I go to doc. I arrow to downloads. I arrow and bring up the menu and > > and managed to open downloads. I do command O to open yahoo. It brings > > up the license agreement. I select I agree. Then it says, system has > > new window. Finder has new window. And the nothing. No keys I hit do > > anything. It just beeps at me. I tried VO space, command O, shift > > arrow, just the arrows. Enter, tab. It all just beeps. I give up and > > am able to bring up spotlight to get back to Safari. > > > > What am I doing? > > > > Thanks, > > Randi > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Almost got yahoo, got a problem
So guess what? I got it running!! It doesn't work very well. But its kinda there. Wow. Don't know how I did it. Now I think I just need to know more commands to interact with it. My boyfriend sent me a test message and it worked. Couldn't hear myself type to replyt though. Probably will only use it to get back in touch with people. Whew. rayna424 wrote: > Hi guys, I've gotten a few replies to this in my email that aren't > here so I'm just gonna do a general reply here. > > Some of what has been suggested is feeling a little too advanced for > me haha. I am accessing yahoo im from the downloads folder. I go to > doc and then to downloads and open it from there. When I click on the > disk icon, thats when it brings up the license agreement. I agree and > thats when it says system has new window, finder has new window. Thats > when it gets lost. I forgot to pay attention to the file extension to > know whether I need to install it or move it or whatever. Quite > honestly I'm thinking about giving up on it LOL. There are just people > on my contacts list who I've lost touch with. I'm talking with someone > on the phone on Tuesday, so that will probably get me further than > trying stuff from the messages. I'll kep playing with it though. I've > navigated around a lot more today thanks to what I've learned from > ya'll. I managed to launch ichat and bring up my old aim account, but > it didn't bring up my old contacts. Slow but sure, slow but sure. :) > > Fonzie wrote: > > Hey there, how goes it? > > > > I hope all i well. > > > > Hmm, perhaps VO has lost focus on where your supposed to be? > > > > Try the following. > > > > Application Chooser Menu > > > > See what is on there. You heard, Finder has new window, System has > > new window, correct? Well, those will appear in your application > > chooser menu, of which you can arrow up and down. To expand that > > item, just hit your right arrow, and a new menu will pop up, upon > > which, arrowing up and down, will giv eyou what is there. See what > > you find under that area. Pay close attention to what is under the > > system area, as that is wher eyou will most likely want to be going. > > > > Also, if you try holding Command, and then hitting tab, while still > > holding command, you can cycle through the programs openned See if > > you find yahoo anywhere, and if so, let go once found, and see if you > > can continue using VO from there on. > > > > Report back what you find. > > > > Take care > > > > Fonzie. > > > > On Feb 28, 2009, at 5:20 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all. Through your help, I've gotten much closer. I'm gonna describe > > > what I'm running in to. > > > > > > I go to doc. I arrow to downloads. I arrow and bring up the menu and > > > and managed to open downloads. I do command O to open yahoo. It brings > > > up the license agreement. I select I agree. Then it says, system has > > > new window. Finder has new window. And the nothing. No keys I hit do > > > anything. It just beeps at me. I tried VO space, command O, shift > > > arrow, just the arrows. Enter, tab. It all just beeps. I give up and > > > am able to bring up spotlight to get back to Safari. > > > > > > What am I doing? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Randi > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Almost got yahoo, got a problem
Hey everyone! I got yahoo down now and also ichat using aim. Funny thing is, the friend i was frantic to find on yahoo, i ended up talking to on aim. he had me on his list from years ago and said hi. we've been online friends for 12 years now. he was the only one i was unable to contact about my situation. its been great catching up with him. i've got the doc figured out, so i can find them again. i honestly don't know how i launched yahoo im haha. but at least i did somehow tee hee. thanks everyone for all your help. i'm finding that trying one thing at a time is working best. and i actually learn by playing around. aesome. rayna424 wrote: > Hi all. Through your help, I've gotten much closer. I'm gonna describe > what I'm running in to. > > I go to doc. I arrow to downloads. I arrow and bring up the menu and > and managed to open downloads. I do command O to open yahoo. It brings > up the license agreement. I select I agree. Then it says, system has > new window. Finder has new window. And the nothing. No keys I hit do > anything. It just beeps at me. I tried VO space, command O, shift > arrow, just the arrows. Enter, tab. It all just beeps. I give up and > am able to bring up spotlight to get back to Safari. > > What am I doing? > > Thanks, > Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Gmail notifier, anyone use?
I'm thinking about getting the gmail notifier. Does anyone use it? I used to love it when I could see. Different ballgame now. Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Facebook users
I just had a friend help me set up facebook yesterday. I'm finding many limitations which apparently so are a lot of screenreader users. Anyone use? I go between mobile facebook and the regular one to accomplish anything. Any pointers? Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Facebook users
Group mode? Whats that? I can only write on walls if they write on mine first. I can't access anyone's profiles to start any kind of dialogue, other than commenting on people's status messages. Eliza Cooper wrote: > Hi Randi, > I used to use the gmail notifier on my pc, but since the Mac's > mail application makes a noise whenever you get mail if it's open > (even if you're doing something else), I haven't needed to get it. I > don't know if that helps any. Also, yes, I have a ton of trouble with > facebook, and other than posting on people's walls and doing basic > stuff, I've stopped bothering with it. Hopefuly other people have > more success/patience. > Eliza > On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:51 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > I just had a friend help me set up facebook yesterday. I'm finding > > many limitations which apparently so are a lot of screenreader users. > > Anyone use? I go between mobile facebook and the regular one to > > accomplish anything. Any pointers? > > > > Thanks, > > Randi > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Facebook users
I was gonna respond to the gmail thing in the gmail thread but its still empty LOL. I was wondering if I was hearing sounds with new email when gmail was open. H. Guess I am LOL. Thanks, I had no idea. rayna424 wrote: > I just had a friend help me set up facebook yesterday. I'm finding > many limitations which apparently so are a lot of screenreader users. > Anyone use? I go between mobile facebook and the regular one to > accomplish anything. Any pointers? > > Thanks, > Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Facebook users
Hi Esther. I ended up speaking to someone on the phone and we went over the group mode thing. I think I'll wait on that until I get more comfortable haha. I'm finding that learning this like pealing an onion, and so far I've only taken off the thin dry outer coating haha. At least after my phone conversation, all those VO keys you mentioned made sense. I've learned some stuff from reading manuals and such, but find that the best way for me is by playing. And talking directly on the phone definitely makes more sense. I'll keep group mode in mind for future reference though, for sure. Thanks for your help! Randi Esther wrote: > Hi Randi, > > Group mode is one of the settings in the VoiceOver Utility panel (VO- > F8). Interact with the table (VO-Shift Down arrow) and navigate to > the "Web" setting. Then stop interacting (VO-Shift Up Arrow) and VO- > right to the settings under "Web". The first entry will be "When > naviagating web content use" and there will be radio buttons for "DOM > navigation" and "Group navigation". VO-right to the one you want, and > use VO-space to select that radio button. Then use Command-W to close > the Utility Panel window. > > DOM mode is a kind of consecutive ordering of visiting links. Group > mode is hierarchical, and can be faster on pages you're familiar with > (you navigate by groups and drill down by interacting to the precise > item you want). Some web pages work better in one mode than another. > This is also within individual usage preference. > > If you haven't done this, you should start by downloading the > "VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Leopard" from > > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html > > which is Apple's comprehensive document on using VoiceOver. It's > available in PDF (use Preview to read) or mp3 files or podcasts, as > well as Braille and other formats. > > Hope this helps, > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:26 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > Group mode? Whats that? I can only write on walls if they write on > > mine first. I can't access anyone's profiles to start any kind of > > dialogue, other than commenting on people's status messages. > > > > > > Eliza Cooper wrote: > >> Hi Randi, > >>I used to use the gmail notifier on my pc, but since the Mac's > >> mail application makes a noise whenever you get mail if it's open > >> (even if you're doing something else), I haven't needed to get it. I > >> don't know if that helps any. Also, yes, I have a ton of trouble > >> with > >> facebook, and other than posting on people's walls and doing basic > >> stuff, I've stopped bothering with it. Hopefuly other people have > >> more success/patience. > >>Eliza > >> On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:51 AM, rayna424 wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I just had a friend help me set up facebook yesterday. I'm finding > >>> many limitations which apparently so are a lot of screenreader > >>> users. > >>> Anyone use? I go between mobile facebook and the regular one to > >>> accomplish anything. Any pointers? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Randi > >>>> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Gmail notifier, anyone use?
So on the mac what kind of nose does gmail make without the notifier? I still haven't figured it out. When I notice a strange noise, I check for new mail but there isn't any. Alex Jurgensen wrote: > Hi, > > I use it just to know when new mail comes in at school where there is > a proxy blocking all other trafic. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 3-Mar-09, at 11:50 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > I'm thinking about getting the gmail notifier. Does anyone use it? I > > used to love it when I could see. Different ballgame now. > > > > Thanks, > > Randi > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Gmail notifier, anyone use?
Oh so it must be something I need to set in settings or something. But since gmail is web based, I don't think that would work. Gmail users, what kind of sound does it make, not using the notifier? Or did you have to set something? Richie Gardenhire wrote: > In my case, the sound I have for Mail Alert alerts me for all my > mailboxes; doesn't matter which one. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, > Alaska. > > > On Mar 4, 2009, at 2:28 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > So on the mac what kind of nose does gmail make without the notifier? > > I still haven't figured it out. When I notice a strange noise, I check > > for new mail but there isn't any. > > > > Alex Jurgensen wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I use it just to know when new mail comes in at school where there is > >> a proxy blocking all other trafic. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Alex, > >> > >> > >> On 3-Mar-09, at 11:50 AM, rayna424 wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I'm thinking about getting the gmail notifier. Does anyone use it? I > >>> used to love it when I could see. Different ballgame now. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Randi > >>>> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Facebook users
I'm able to comment on my own status. H. Well if someone comments I can comment back. I can't seem to access profiles though. Sometimes I can just out of the blue and then other times I can't. That stupid so and so added a photo or commented yada yada thing is pretty silly, but so far the site is ok. Richie, I got a post in my techie forum with a link to a blog where someone said she called to get help setting up her account. I'll go try and find the link. I'm in a brain fog today though, so I might get lost in la la land. I had a sighted friend help me but it sounds like there's a way to get help. I'll go look for the link now. Wish me luck. Richie Gardenhire wrote: > I tried setting up an account, using Face Book, but because I'm hard > of hearing, the capcha was hard to navigate for me. Is there a toll- > free number to get assistance? Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. > > > On Mar 5, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Tiffany D wrote: > > > > > I actually didn't have to do all that navigation. I just went to web > > under the VoiceOver utility, tabbed once and used VO right arrow. > > Instantly I saw the options and selected the group mode radio button. > > As for Facebook it's a large and cluttered site. I like the mobile > > version but find that it won't let me see posts made in groups and > > won't let me comment on my own status. Neither site will let me > > delete applications once added. I've tried this with a few > > screenreaders on my XP machine and one of them at least tells me that > > there's a remove button but it won't let me press it. VoiceOver > > doesn't even recognise it and will only let me block an ap. Does > > anyone know how I can fix this problem? Also, can I delete the photos > > ap and still add photos? I'm sick of seeing "person A has added a new > > photo" or "B has commented on A's photo". These things do nothing for > > me. > > > > On 03/03/2009, rayna424 wrote: > >> > >> Hi Esther. I ended up speaking to someone on the phone and we went > >> over the group mode thing. I think I'll wait on that until I get more > >> comfortable haha. I'm finding that learning this like pealing an > >> onion, and so far I've only taken off the thin dry outer coating > >> haha. > >> At least after my phone conversation, all those VO keys you mentioned > >> made sense. I've learned some stuff from reading manuals and such, > >> but > >> find that the best way for me is by playing. And talking directly on > >> the phone definitely makes more sense. I'll keep group mode in mind > >> for future reference though, for sure. Thanks for your help! > >> > >> Randi > >> > >> Esther wrote: > >>> Hi Randi, > >>> > >>> Group mode is one of the settings in the VoiceOver Utility panel > >>> (VO- > >>> F8). Interact with the table (VO-Shift Down arrow) and navigate to > >>> the "Web" setting. Then stop interacting (VO-Shift Up Arrow) and > >>> VO- > >>> right to the settings under "Web". The first entry will be "When > >>> naviagating web content use" and there will be radio buttons for > >>> "DOM > >>> navigation" and "Group navigation". VO-right to the one you want, > >>> and > >>> use VO-space to select that radio button. Then use Command-W to > >>> close > >>> the Utility Panel window. > >>> > >>> DOM mode is a kind of consecutive ordering of visiting links. Group > >>> mode is hierarchical, and can be faster on pages you're familiar > >>> with > >>> (you navigate by groups and drill down by interacting to the precise > >>> item you want). Some web pages work better in one mode than > >>> another. > >>> This is also within individual usage preference. > >>> > >>> If you haven't done this, you should start by downloading the > >>> "VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Leopard" from > >>> > >>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html > >>> > >>> which is Apple's comprehensive document on using VoiceOver. It's > >>> available in PDF (use Preview to read) or mp3 files or podcasts, as > >>> well as Braille and other formats. > >>> > >>> Hope this helps, > >>> > >>> Cheers, &
Re: Facebook users
Ok, think I got it. Here: http://universallydesigned.net/uncategorized/facebook-the-good-bad-and-the-ugly/ It took some searching to find her actual blog. She'ss a windows user but she did talk about calling a support number. I'm not sure if she gives the number, but maybe you can tontact her. The mobile facebook site is at www.m.facebook.com The best thing about having my sighted friend help was, you can select an option to verify the account by text message so you never get the captias again. So she was able to do the text for me. rayna424 wrote: > I just had a friend help me set up facebook yesterday. I'm finding > many limitations which apparently so are a lot of screenreader users. > Anyone use? I go between mobile facebook and the regular one to > accomplish anything. Any pointers? > > Thanks, > Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VO says "busy"...
I sure hope someone replies to this, as I've had it happen too. Normally in Safari when I'm scrolling a lot it'll say busy and then its ok. But yesterday in ichat it happend and would not stop so I quit the app and started again. I'd like to know too, though I suspect its just simply that its busy haha. At least it doesn't kill the whole system like it would in Windows. David Hole wrote: > Hello guys. > Can someone out there tell me why VO sometimes says "Busy" in some > applications? > This happens sometimes in Adium when I for example go into the > preferences-box, and sometimes it happens in iTunes...Then VO says > "busy", and if i press any key, it continues say busy and sometimes > "application" and some times "itunes ready"... > What can I do when this happens? > Hope someone gets what I'm trying to say...:) > -David --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Facebook Users
Hi Elena, haha no worries about the subject. Its back to the original now that I've hit reply. I thought I'd need to edit it. Strange. I think we've got gremlins. I'm brand new to VO so all the stuff you said about facebook went right over my head haha. Maybe I'll make sense of it later though. Oh I'm jsust too sleepy. Tee hee. alena.roberts2...@gmail.com wrote: > I am surprised to hear that facebook is giving people so many > problems. I actually have found that voice over is better than JAWS in > certain situations. As far as doing basic things like commenting on > status updates, when you are reading through and you come to the word > "comment" hit VO+Spacebar. This will bring up a text box. to get to > anyone's profile simply open the links list and go to the person's > name that you're looking for. This will open their profile. You can > also click on "Friends" and than find your friend that way. Another > tip is to turn on tab browsing. to do this go into preferences in > Safari and find Advanced. Check the box that allows the tab key to > work like it does on a PC, which moves through links. Option + tab > will move you to buttons and text boxes. > > Sorry about the weird post before. I am still new at this and I didn't > mean to write my response in the subject line. If anyone has any more > questions just let me know. > > Alena > > alena.roberts2...@gmail.com wrote: > > Richie Gardenhire wrote: > > > I posted a comment because when I went to check out her blog, she > > > didn't give a support number, nor did she give any suggestions as to > > > how to contact customer service. I hope to hear from her soon. > > > Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. > > > > > > > > > On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:04 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, think I got it. Here: > > > > > > > > http://universallydesigned.net/uncategorized/facebook-the-good-bad-and-the-ugly/ > > > > > > > > It took some searching to find her actual blog. She'ss a windows user > > > > but she did talk about calling a support number. I'm not sure if she > > > > gives the number, but maybe you can tontact her. The mobile facebook > > > > site is at www.m.facebook.com > > > > > > > > The best thing about having my sighted friend help was, you can select > > > > an option to verify the account by text message so you never get the > > > > captias again. So she was able to do the text for me. > > > > > > > > rayna424 wrote: > > > >> I just had a friend help me set up facebook yesterday. I'm finding > > > >> many limitations which apparently so are a lot of screenreader users. > > > >> Anyone use? I go between mobile facebook and the regular one to > > > >> accomplish anything. Any pointers? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Randi > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Ichat freezing and Alex sleepy?
Man I couldn't get logged in here for a bit. Strange. Anyway, I'm successfully chatting in ichat now, using AIM and I've got a strange problem that occures. I'm going to try and explain and see if anyone knows what might be happening. I'm in a chat window and I type a message and hit enter. To get back to where I can read the messages, I VO left arrow and it says html content. I hit VO Shift down arrow to interact with html content. This usually works just fine. But sometimes it goes silent and then says, "welcome to macintosh, voiceover is running, finder, window, icon view" which is what it always says when I turn on the computer. I just VO down arrow again and it takes me back and I can read the messages. Sometimes though, when I'm going too fast, when it goes silent if I hit ay more keys, it'll freeze up ichat and any keys I hit just gets me a busy, busy, busy. I have to shut down and restart. I'll often be chatting in yahoo im too and it does not happen ever with yahoo and I do the same thing to navigate between where I read and where I type. Any thoughts? Also, and this is probably just my crazy imagination. I've been putting the macbook to sleep for a few days when I learned how haha. Just now, when I opened it, my addressbook had been up and it then read my ichat description, and I swear, Alex sounded sleepy. It sounded as though his speech had been slowed down but I haven't changed that. Then he sounded normal. Am I crazy? Did they actually make him sound sleepy when he wakes up? I thought I was nuts when I heard him breathe until I read that they did that on purpose to make him sound more human. Anyway, good to be back. I've learned a ton already from ya'll. Thanks, Randi Oh PS, when ichat freezes, I only rstart ichat, not the macbook. And, does anyone know how to retrieve the password? I tried doing the system update but it asked for a password and I don't remember setting up a password. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll Results
I hope its ok that I'm posting a reply here since everyone wants us to shut up, but I'm new to this list and couldn't get in for a bit and had no idea there was another list starting so is ok if I ask some questions? If you don't want to read this, move on to another thread. Sorry. I'm just not sure I even want to stay on this list, being a newbie and not knowing the rules, and finding it helpful to read other's posts. Anyway, simple question, if I'm automatically subscribed to this new list, where can I find it? I, too, do not like cluttered inboxes so I subscribe and read only online to avoid inbox clutter. Therefore, I do not know where the new list is. On this new list, since I missed all discussion and voting, will we be free to post at will? If so I think I'll join that one and leave this one? Sorry if I sound snarky, I just find people's posts helpful, yeah, one liners are annoying but sometimes I find a helpful tip on the fourth post down dot dot dot. Feel free to answer my questions privately so as not to bother people. Thanks, Randi PS, Kara you have more patience than I, tee hee. Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Software Update Problems - Please help
Hi Guys. I keep getting a message that software updates are available. But it asks me for a password, and I don't remember setting one up. Is there a way to search for it somewhere? Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Software Update Problems - Please help
I realize that, but I don't remember if I set up a password, therefore I don't know the password. I'll try hitting enter next time though I think when I selected the restart it asked for the passwrod. The second part of my question was, is there a place to look up the password if I did set one? I've only been a Mac user for a few months, and was so excited the night I brought it home that I don't remember setting up a password. Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Software Update Problems - Please help
Thanks guys. I think I'll try the hitting return next time software update pops up. All the disk stuff flew way over my head. Hopefullyj return works. Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Can't register at mlb.com
Hi guys. I want to register on mlb.com so I can purchase the Gameday audio. Problem is, I can't access the register button. I called and the lady on the phone said the register button is located after you enter all the information, right after, "I want to recieve newsletters" etc checked check box. She said there is a green button to the right of that, but I do not hear "register button" or anything. Is this a Mac thing? Could anyone go there and try it? Its mlb.com and then click register. Just scroll past all the info to enter and see if there's a register button? Maybe there's something I need to do? Like maybe its in a frame or something? I don't know how to see if there are any frames. I'm just seriously frustrated. I know other visually impaired people use game day, and if its not mac accessible I think I'll scream. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't register at mlb.com
I don't even hear button. Where did you hear button? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't register at mlb.com
Yeah, I went back. And I don't get the word button. There's the checkbox asking for newsletters, and then it says the server will encrypt your information. Guess I'm S.O.L Thanks anyway. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't register at mlb.com
I don't know. I have Safari but don't know wich one. Got my accessibility folks on the case. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Power issue on macbook
I probably need to take it in to the Apple store but wonder if any of you have experienced this. Sometimes I hear a pop, just a quiet one. The computer will freeze and then be fine. Today I heard a louder pop and nothing would happen when I hit keys. I could hear that it was on. I forced a shutdown and then it was fine. I should probably take it in right? I've only had it since December. Worried. Thanks guys, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power issue on macbook
Oh yes it happens just the way you describe, when I'm going really fast. How do you restart VO? That is different than restarting the macbook? Thank you! Randi Jessi and Goldina wrote: > mine's done this a few times too but I'm not really worried. it > usually happens when I'm doing something quickly like arrowing through > to check the time. it's like voiceover says whoa, you're going way too > fast and I'm really confused so I'll just pop, lol. leaving it for a > few seconds and then restarting voiceover usually does the trick. > peace and positivity > Jessi > follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva > On 30-Apr-09, at 6:45 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > I probably need to take it in to the Apple store but wonder if any of > > you have experienced this. Sometimes I hear a pop, just a quiet one. > > The computer will freeze and then be fine. Today I heard a louder pop > > and nothing would happen when I hit keys. I could hear that it was on. > > I forced a shutdown and then it was fine. I should probably take it in > > right? I've only had it since December. Worried. > > > > Thanks guys, > > Randi > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: issue with gmail in mail and safari?
Hmm, interesting. I don't use gmail in mail, just webbased. I've never had to have a password recovery before. I also use Safari. Do you have the remember me checkbox checked? I'm grasping at straws haha. Sometimes out of the blue, I have to reenter my password, but never have to have it recovered. Strange. Wish I could help. Randi chantel cuddemi wrote: > Hi, all. > I started having this issue on Sunday. I've had to have my password > recovered twice. > Sometimes, I cannot access my gmail account with mail and safari. Any > ideas on how to fix this? > Do I need to have my password constantly recovered? Should I recheck > my pop settings? > Any assistance is appreciated. > Tia, > Chantel. x --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power issue on macbook
Ok that helsp clear it up. I think on the macbook its command function F5. Least thats what they taught me at the Apple store. As far as Alex using a lot of ram, its worth it. He's the first voice I've ever used and now I have a Windows smart phone with Mobilespeak and the difference in voice is astounding haha. Thanks, Randi Alex Jurgensen wrote: > Hi, > Randy and jessi, > > It is a RAM Shortage. It only seems to occur with Alex because of the > RAM usage being a lot higher than say Fred or Bruce. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 30-Apr-09, at 8:30 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > > > > > you restart voiceover with command f5. command f5 once to turn it off, > > then again to turn it back on. you might have to fiddle with it a few > > times, but eventually it will come back. you shouldn't have to restart > > your macbook. I'm not sure if the whole computer freezes when this > > happens or if it's just a voiceover thing but turning voiceover off > > and then back on again should definitely fix it. > > peace and positivity > > Jessi > > follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva > > On 30-Apr-09, at 7:57 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > >> > >> Oh yes it happens just the way you describe, when I'm going really > >> fast. > >> > >> How do you restart VO? That is different than restarting the macbook? > >> > >> Thank you! > >> Randi > >> > >> Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >>> mine's done this a few times too but I'm not really worried. it > >>> usually happens when I'm doing something quickly like arrowing > >>> through > >>> to check the time. it's like voiceover says whoa, you're going way > >>> too > >>> fast and I'm really confused so I'll just pop, lol. leaving it for a > >>> few seconds and then restarting voiceover usually does the trick. > >>> peace and positivity > >>> Jessi > >>> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva > >>> On 30-Apr-09, at 6:45 PM, rayna424 wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I probably need to take it in to the Apple store but wonder if any > >>>> of > >>>> you have experienced this. Sometimes I hear a pop, just a quiet > >>>> one. > >>>> The computer will freeze and then be fine. Today I heard a louder > >>>> pop > >>>> and nothing would happen when I hit keys. I could hear that it was > >>>> on. > >>>> I forced a shutdown and then it was fine. I should probably take > >>>> it in > >>>> right? I've only had it since December. Worried. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks guys, > >>>> Randi > >>>>> > >>> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Copying Text from a web page...
Max, this is how I do it too. As Mark mentioned though, this doesn't seem to work for larger areas of text. When I want to copy an entire email, I hit reply so that the passage I want is in an edit text field. Then I interact, select what I want and copy. Of course this doesn't work if there isn't a way to put the text into an edit field. Is Mark correct that VO just can't do this yet? Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Navigating by header
Hi folks, I'm learning my macbook and VO one thing at a time and its working great. I've come much farther since my first post to this group haha. Its time for me to start navigating by heading. How does this work, what are the VO commands, and do you do this with pages you're familiar with and then maybe go line by line on new pages? I've been resting on my laurels and not trying anything new, so its time to broaden my horizon. :) Thanks in advance, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Navigating by header
Ah yes it was the command key I was forgetting. I kept just doing VO H haha. Thanks! Mark Baxter wrote: > Randi: > In Safari, VO COmmand H will navigate by headings. another thing you > can do is lock down the VO keys once on a web page, with VO semicolon; > the you'd only have to press command H to navigate by headings, and > left and right arrow to read the text on that page. Don't forget to > unlock the VO keys with another press of VO semicolon, once you want > to use regular system commands again. > Hit me up if you need further help on this. > > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Navigating by header
Hmm I did VO command H and it did not say header. It blipped and took me down a heading. I'm sure I'll get the hang of it though. :) chantel cuddemi wrote: > Hi, Randy, > If you press control option command h, you will hear voiceover say, > "Heading" You can then vo to the right and scrool that heading. Hth, > Chantel. > On May 2, 2009, at 10:40 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm learning my macbook and VO one thing at a time and its working > > great. I've come much farther since my first post to this group haha. > > > > Its time for me to start navigating by heading. How does this work, > > what are the VO commands, and do you do this with pages you're > > familiar with and then maybe go line by line on new pages? > > > > I've been resting on my laurels and not trying anything new, so its > > time to broaden my horizon. :) Thanks in advance, Randi > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Help with iTuenes
Hi guys, I haven't used iTunes yet since buying my macbook in December. I opened it 2 days ago and it asked some preliminary set up questions and opens what I assume is the player. I've looked all over it and there's no way to access the store to do anything. I think I need a crash course. One of the questions it asked was if I wanted to download an upgrade and I didn't for some reason. Now I don't know how to tell it to get the upgrade. Could this be the problem? Don't know what to do with itunes. It doesn't make any sense haha. Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help with iTuenes
Ok I just downloaded and installed the latest itunes and there still isn't an obvious way of getting to the store and downloaded anything. I'm so lost haha!! rayna424 wrote: > Hi guys, > > I haven't used iTunes yet since buying my macbook in December. I > opened it 2 days ago and it asked some preliminary set up questions > and opens what I assume is the player. I've looked all over it and > there's no way to access the store to do anything. I think I need a > crash course. One of the questions it asked was if I wanted to > download an upgrade and I didn't for some reason. Now I don't know how > to tell it to get the upgrade. Could this be the problem? Don't know > what to do with itunes. It doesn't make any sense haha. > > Thanks, > Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help with iTuenes
That must be how I did it. Suddenly there was a store link and I was able to sign up. I was pressing everything and interacting with everything, so it must have been sources that I interacted with haha! Got it though, and was browsing books and couldn't figure out how to get back to the store, so I quit interacting and that worked. Its crazy when things suddenly work and you don't even know what you did lol!! Thanks Dan. Perseverance paid off this time while I was waiting for replies tee hee. Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Hi,if you want to get to the store, go to the sources table, > interact with it, and select iTunes store. HTH. > On May 9, 2009, at 12:26 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > Ok I just downloaded and installed the latest itunes and there still > isn't an obvious way of getting to the store and downloaded anything. > I'm so lost haha!! > > rayna424 wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I haven't used iTunes yet since buying my macbook in December. I > > opened it 2 days ago and it asked some preliminary set up questions > > and opens what I assume is the player. I've looked all over it and > > there's no way to access the store to do anything. I think I need a > > crash course. One of the questions it asked was if I wanted to > > download an upgrade and I didn't for some reason. Now I don't know how > > to tell it to get the upgrade. Could this be the problem? Don't know > > what to do with itunes. It doesn't make any sense haha. > > > > Thanks, > > Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help with iTuenes
I've got it, but can't seem to find a way to search for something in particular. Mark Baxter wrote: > Randi: > If you don't get any good answers sooner--which I doubt will be the > case--I'd be glad to help you with Itunes. I was deathly afraid of it > when I started using it, but now I absolutely love it. Hit me up if > you still need that crash course; I'm good at crashes. :) > > > Mark BurningHawk > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with iTunes
Hello everyone. Mark helped me figure out search, so I have found and downloaded some stuff. How though, do you crate a playlist? I clicked on create a playlist, and the fields made no sense. I got a bunch of classical stuff that I want to put in a folder. Also, is there an easy way to get just single song? I searched for a song I wanted and had to click around a few links to get to just the song and not the whole album. I heard how much it was, and my boyfreind saw, buy now, but I didn't hear that, and it wasn't a button. Could it just be that it wasn't available? I'm sure there are podcasts on how to do this with Voiceover, or an article or something. How would I search for podcasts, I mean, what words would I enter? And does anyone know of a good article? Thanks, and iTunes rocks!! I got the 50 most essential pieces of classical music for eleven bucks!! Sweet! Randi rayna424 wrote: > Hi guys, > > I haven't used iTunes yet since buying my macbook in December. I > opened it 2 days ago and it asked some preliminary set up questions > and opens what I assume is the player. I've looked all over it and > there's no way to access the store to do anything. I think I need a > crash course. One of the questions it asked was if I wanted to > download an upgrade and I didn't for some reason. Now I don't know how > to tell it to get the upgrade. Could this be the problem? Don't know > what to do with itunes. It doesn't make any sense haha. > > Thanks, > Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with iTunes
Mail Archives page for the old list > (December 2005 - January 2009) at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/ > > or the new list (February 2009 - present) at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/ > > tab to the search field, put in a few search terms, and press return. > There's a gap of nearly a month before archiving was requested for the > new list at the Mail Archives, but everything from the last day of > February and later should be in the new archives. > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On May 10, 2009, at 8:14 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone. Mark helped me figure out search, so I have found and > > downloaded some stuff. How though, do you crate a playlist? I clicked > > on create a playlist, and the fields made no sense. I got a bunch of > > classical stuff that I want to put in a folder. Also, is there an easy > > way to get just single song? I searched for a song I wanted and had to > > click around a few links to get to just the song and not the whole > > album. I heard how much it was, and my boyfreind saw, buy now, but I > > didn't hear that, and it wasn't a button. Could it just be that it > > wasn't available? I'm sure there are podcasts on how to do this with > > Voiceover, or an article or something. How would I search for > > podcasts, I mean, what words would I enter? And does anyone know of a > > good article? > > > > > > Thanks, and iTunes rocks!! I got the 50 most essential pieces of > > classical music for eleven bucks!! Sweet! > > > > Randi > > > > rayna424 wrote: > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> I haven't used iTunes yet since buying my macbook in December. I > >> opened it 2 days ago and it asked some preliminary set up questions > >> and opens what I assume is the player. I've looked all over it and > >> there's no way to access the store to do anything. I think I need a > >> crash course. One of the questions it asked was if I wanted to > >> download an upgrade and I didn't for some reason. Now I don't know > >> how > >> to tell it to get the upgrade. Could this be the problem? Don't know > >> what to do with itunes. It doesn't make any sense haha. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Randi > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with iTunes
, if you learn to use the search feature on the secondary mail > list archives for this list you can find all sorts of topics, and even > read down the threads. My post of a few days ago in reply gives an > example of how to do search: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02201.html > > In general, just go to the Mail Archives page for the old list > (December 2005 - January 2009) at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/ > > or the new list (February 2009 - present) at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/ > > tab to the search field, put in a few search terms, and press return. > There's a gap of nearly a month before archiving was requested for the > new list at the Mail Archives, but everything from the last day of > February and later should be in the new archives. > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On May 10, 2009, at 8:14 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone. Mark helped me figure out search, so I have found and > > downloaded some stuff. How though, do you crate a playlist? I clicked > > on create a playlist, and the fields made no sense. I got a bunch of > > classical stuff that I want to put in a folder. Also, is there an easy > > way to get just single song? I searched for a song I wanted and had to > > click around a few links to get to just the song and not the whole > > album. I heard how much it was, and my boyfreind saw, buy now, but I > > didn't hear that, and it wasn't a button. Could it just be that it > > wasn't available? I'm sure there are podcasts on how to do this with > > Voiceover, or an article or something. How would I search for > > podcasts, I mean, what words would I enter? And does anyone know of a > > good article? > > > > > > Thanks, and iTunes rocks!! I got the 50 most essential pieces of > > classical music for eleven bucks!! Sweet! > > > > Randi > > > > rayna424 wrote: > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> I haven't used iTunes yet since buying my macbook in December. I > >> opened it 2 days ago and it asked some preliminary set up questions > >> and opens what I assume is the player. I've looked all over it and > >> there's no way to access the store to do anything. I think I need a > >> crash course. One of the questions it asked was if I wanted to > >> download an upgrade and I didn't for some reason. Now I don't know > >> how > >> to tell it to get the upgrade. Could this be the problem? Don't know > >> what to do with itunes. It doesn't make any sense haha. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Randi > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with iTunes
I'm confused.
So it's VO shift and M on the price, not VO shift space?
So to refiew, I search, then interact with songs list, get to where it
says price, and do VO shift M?
Most other voiceover commands are over my head, as I'm still new, only
doing this since December. So nursery school directions are needed to
explain things to me lol.
Do you know why albums are so much easier? I've already gotten 3
because there's a nice easy button that says, buy now. Why don't they
have that for songs?
Man, learning brail is easier than itunes haha.
Thanks,
Randi
Esther wrote:
> Hi Scott and Rayna,
>
> Yes, use VO-Shift-M after selecting the song or songs and choose "Buy
> or Get Currently Selected Songs" to purchase your song selection. I
> think the issue is that if you don't route your mouse cursor to the
> price (VO-Command-F5) before clicking your selection (VO-Shift-Space)
> you're clicking in some arbitrary location. You can also change your
> preferences, (Command-comma) to use a shopping cart, as Scott does.
> These discussion posts were made in the period before the posts on the
> new list were being archived, so I couldn't just point you to the
> instructions. Under the Store preferences you can choose the radio
> button to use a shopping cart instead of buy with one-click (the
> default). Dismiss the preferences window with Command-W when you're
> done. The Shopping Cart is another item in the sources table below
> the selection for the iTunes Store, and allows you to review purchase
> contents by selecting it, and then examining contents when you tab to
> its "songs table".
>
> You can practice your purchase on one of the free discovery downloads
> for the U.S. Store:
>
> http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=314654865
>
> When you click on the above link, or copy it, paste it into your web
> browser and press return (Command-C, Command-L, Command-V, return); it
> will open up iTunes at the iTunes Store page for that song or album.
>
> Tab to the Songs outline to view the free track ("Light through the
> Veins" by Jon Hopkins). If you VO-up arrow from the songs outline
> you'll be in the HTML area. Interact and read the descriptions.
>
> Here's the same song as part of an album. In this link, the actual
> song is specified within the album, so when you check iTunes your
> focus should be on the (free) song in that album in the songs table.
> When you VO-Up arrow to the HTML area you get the album information
> and the button to purchase the album.
>
> http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=312718564&id=312718542
>
> Searches for specific tracks in the iTunes Store using the power
> search, with the pop up button set to "Music", work the same way. If
> you select an album, the description is in the HTML area. If you stop
> interacting and VO-down arrow to the songs table, you'll see the
> individual tracks, and can purchase them one by one.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On May 10, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
> >
> > Yep, you need to do VO-keys+shift+m to bring up the context menu. Once
> > you click on buy for the track, it's placed in your shopping cart and/
> > or if you want an entire album, interact with the iTunes html area and
> > locate the button for purchasing the entire album. I've got this down
> > to an art now considering the amount of money I've spent. :)
> > On May 10, 2009, at 6:44 PM, rayna424 wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Ok, so I looked at his page to expand on what you said about finding
> >> the price for a song and then VO shift space. When I do that, it
> >> opens
> >> up different commands, with options for store, window, itunes, apple,
> >> etc. How do I buy a song with this? Maybe its VO space and then
> >> shift?
> >> this is confusing. Is there something I'm missing? He didn't mention
> >> any new window, just to do exactly what you said to purchase. And
> >> then
> >> all info stops there haha. What do I do next? Why is purchasing one
> >> song different from purchasing an album? Albums are so easy. I wish
> >> songs were.
> >>
> >> Thanks,Randi
> >>
> >> Esther wrote:
> >>> Hi Rayna,
> >>>
> >>> Look through Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver pages for an overview of iTunes
> >>> and creating playlists. Here's the link to the iTunes 7
> >>> description:
> >>>
> >>> http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/itunes7.ht
Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with iTunes
Alrighty then, VO shift and M worked like a charm. Finally got the
song haha. Thank you thank you! Next step is learning how to make
playlists and organize the music the way I want. The website Esther
gave me makes it sound really complicated, and thats for itunes
seven. Any pointers for me? I think I've mastered the store. Though
the two podcasts I tried failed in downloading so that was
disappointing haha.
I had given up and walked away. So glad I looked here again.
rayna424 wrote:
> I'm confused.
>
> So it's VO shift and M on the price, not VO shift space?
>
> So to refiew, I search, then interact with songs list, get to where it
> says price, and do VO shift M?
>
> Most other voiceover commands are over my head, as I'm still new, only
> doing this since December. So nursery school directions are needed to
> explain things to me lol.
>
> Do you know why albums are so much easier? I've already gotten 3
> because there's a nice easy button that says, buy now. Why don't they
> have that for songs?
>
> Man, learning brail is easier than itunes haha.
>
> Thanks,
> Randi
>
> Esther wrote:
> > Hi Scott and Rayna,
> >
> > Yes, use VO-Shift-M after selecting the song or songs and choose "Buy
> > or Get Currently Selected Songs" to purchase your song selection. I
> > think the issue is that if you don't route your mouse cursor to the
> > price (VO-Command-F5) before clicking your selection (VO-Shift-Space)
> > you're clicking in some arbitrary location. You can also change your
> > preferences, (Command-comma) to use a shopping cart, as Scott does.
> > These discussion posts were made in the period before the posts on the
> > new list were being archived, so I couldn't just point you to the
> > instructions. Under the Store preferences you can choose the radio
> > button to use a shopping cart instead of buy with one-click (the
> > default). Dismiss the preferences window with Command-W when you're
> > done. The Shopping Cart is another item in the sources table below
> > the selection for the iTunes Store, and allows you to review purchase
> > contents by selecting it, and then examining contents when you tab to
> > its "songs table".
> >
> > You can practice your purchase on one of the free discovery downloads
> > for the U.S. Store:
> >
> > http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=314654865
> >
> > When you click on the above link, or copy it, paste it into your web
> > browser and press return (Command-C, Command-L, Command-V, return); it
> > will open up iTunes at the iTunes Store page for that song or album.
> >
> > Tab to the Songs outline to view the free track ("Light through the
> > Veins" by Jon Hopkins). If you VO-up arrow from the songs outline
> > you'll be in the HTML area. Interact and read the descriptions.
> >
> > Here's the same song as part of an album. In this link, the actual
> > song is specified within the album, so when you check iTunes your
> > focus should be on the (free) song in that album in the songs table.
> > When you VO-Up arrow to the HTML area you get the album information
> > and the button to purchase the album.
> >
> > http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=312718564&id=312718542
> >
> > Searches for specific tracks in the iTunes Store using the power
> > search, with the pop up button set to "Music", work the same way. If
> > you select an album, the description is in the HTML area. If you stop
> > interacting and VO-down arrow to the songs table, you'll see the
> > individual tracks, and can purchase them one by one.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Esther
> >
> > On May 10, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Yep, you need to do VO-keys+shift+m to bring up the context menu. Once
> > > you click on buy for the track, it's placed in your shopping cart and/
> > > or if you want an entire album, interact with the iTunes html area and
> > > locate the button for purchasing the entire album. I've got this down
> > > to an art now considering the amount of money I've spent. :)
> > > On May 10, 2009, at 6:44 PM, rayna424 wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Ok, so I looked at his page to expand on what you said about finding
> > >> the price for a song and then VO shift space. When I do that, it
> > >> opens
> > >> up different commands, with options for store, window, i
Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with iTunes
Ok I'm going to try this stuff tomorrow. Thanks for the tips! Nigel, I couldn't access what you wrote? It was Esther's reply, and then my message, but when I VOd over, it quit reading the message. Strange. Esther wrote: > Hi, > > Try making a playlist of your albums by using the file browser. > Select your Music library in the sources table and use Command-B to > toggle on the browser. Now when you tab from the Sources table to the > search text field you'll reach your Music library entries organized by > Genre (first tab past search text field), Artist (second tab past) and > Album (third tab), before reaching the Songs table. Tab to the Album > column in the browser (4 tabs after you stop interacting with the > source table). Interact (VO-Shift-Down Arrow), and either arrow down > to find your album, or type the first letters of the album name to > navigate there. When you've selected an album, use Command-Shift-N to > create a new playlist from your selection. A dialog window will pop > up prompting you to name your playlist. The default name in the field > will be the Artist followed by the Album with a hyphen in between. > > The browser and search text field, "winnow down" your source > selections by only showing entries in the songs table that match what > you type -- including parts of words. But the search text field is > matched to any keyword that's displayed in the Songs table -- whether > it's part of a song name or an album name. The browser lets you > search by category, in any combination you want. You can select > entries or combinations in any of the browser columns, then check what > shows up in the Songs table. > > As mentioned before, you can start with a blank playlist (Command-N > and name the playlist), or one made from a selection (as in the > example given above). You can add to the playlist by selecting songs > in the songs table and using the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and > choosing the "Add to Playlist" option, then Right-Arrow to the submenu > of playlists and select the name of the playlist you want to add to. > > The order of the playlist is the order in which you added songs. But > you can change that by sorting columns in the songs table of the > playlist. Sorting with VO-Shift-Backslash under the Album column > should preserve album order of songs. A second VO-Shift-Backslash > reverses a sort from ascending to descending order. > > HTH > > Esther > > On May 10, 2009, at 3:32 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Alrighty then, VO shift and M worked like a charm. Finally got the > > song haha. Thank you thank you! Next step is learning how to make > > playlists and organize the music the way I want. The website Esther > > gave me makes it sound really complicated, and thats for itunes > > seven. Any pointers for me? I think I've mastered the store. Though > > the two podcasts I tried failed in downloading so that was > > disappointing haha. > > > > I had given up and walked away. So glad I looked here again. > > > > rayna424 wrote: > >> --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with iTunes
I'm sure this will make sense eventually haha. So, to create my own playlist, can you walk me through where I start from and what command to do? Is it in the sources menu? And then VO shift B? And, I know when I first downloaded an album, I was able to access a list of albums, but now I don't remember how I did it. So here's what I want to do for now, I want to make a classical list, and add 3 albums to it. Then, I want to make a songs list, and I'll have 2 albums and a few songs to add to it for right now. Can you walk me through step by step how I'd do this? I like the VO shift M way of doing it. In that menu, it will give me an option to add to a playlist? This is really really great information guys! I think I'll get one of those Voiceover podcasts too. I don't know all my commands yet, so its kinda like trying to read a brail book before knowing all the letters lol. Thanks!! Randi Scott Howell wrote: > Esther, thanks, that was what I had wrong. I had forgotten in which > column to use the VO key sequence. ONce I used VO+\ in the album > field, it put the tracks in their proper order. > > > On May 10, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Esther wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > Try making a playlist of your albums by using the file browser. > > Select your Music library in the sources table and use Command-B to > > toggle on the browser. Now when you tab from the Sources table to the > > search text field you'll reach your Music library entries organized by > > Genre (first tab past search text field), Artist (second tab past) and > > Album (third tab), before reaching the Songs table. Tab to the Album > > column in the browser (4 tabs after you stop interacting with the > > source table). Interact (VO-Shift-Down Arrow), and either arrow down > > to find your album, or type the first letters of the album name to > > navigate there. When you've selected an album, use Command-Shift-N to > > create a new playlist from your selection. A dialog window will pop > > up prompting you to name your playlist. The default name in the field > > will be the Artist followed by the Album with a hyphen in between. > > > > The browser and search text field, "winnow down" your source > > selections by only showing entries in the songs table that match what > > you type -- including parts of words. But the search text field is > > matched to any keyword that's displayed in the Songs table -- whether > > it's part of a song name or an album name. The browser lets you > > search by category, in any combination you want. You can select > > entries or combinations in any of the browser columns, then check what > > shows up in the Songs table. > > > > As mentioned before, you can start with a blank playlist (Command-N > > and name the playlist), or one made from a selection (as in the > > example given above). You can add to the playlist by selecting songs > > in the songs table and using the context menu (VO-Shift-M) and > > choosing the "Add to Playlist" option, then Right-Arrow to the submenu > > of playlists and select the name of the playlist you want to add to. > > > > The order of the playlist is the order in which you added songs. But > > you can change that by sorting columns in the songs table of the > > playlist. Sorting with VO-Shift-Backslash under the Album column > > should preserve album order of songs. A second VO-Shift-Backslash > > reverses a sort from ascending to descending order. > > > > HTH > > > > Esther > > > > On May 10, 2009, at 3:32 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > >> > >> Alrighty then, VO shift and M worked like a charm. Finally got the > >> song haha. Thank you thank you! Next step is learning how to make > >> playlists and organize the music the way I want. The website Esther > >> gave me makes it sound really complicated, and thats for itunes > >> seven. Any pointers for me? I think I've mastered the store. Though > >> the two podcasts I tried failed in downloading so that was > >> disappointing haha. > >> > >> I had given up and walked away. So glad I looked here again. > >> > >> rayna424 wrote: > >>> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with iTunes
Nice. Well I've mastered creating playlists and moving stuff to them. The only thing I didn't figure out was how to move a whole album to a playlist. Example, I created a classical list, and moved 50 Essential pieces of classical music, one by one. It was good practice, but for future, is there a way to move a whole album? I know you can create a list from the browser under albums, but for the purpupose of say, having a musicals list, being able to move an entire musical. I guess that's not too necessary, since having a list for each musical is fine too. I think I've got the basics thatnks to ya'll! As for using B or M to buy, I learned M first so I think for now I'll stick to that haha. This is wonderful! Thank you all so much! Randi Esther wrote: > Good one, Chris > > I found your old post about Command-Shift-B: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg43708.html > > Re: iTunes 8.0.1 released with Accessibility Enhancements > Chris Blouch > Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:01:07 -0700 > > Just found out about a third way. Friend of a friend works in Apple's > accessibility team who said you can just do Command-Shift-B to buy the > track which is currently highlighted or Control-Shift-B if you're on > Windows. I scoured the internet, the iTunes help and all the pull-down > menus and this command is mentioned nowhere. Nice to see that there is > a simple key combo to do this but they could have made it more > discoverable. Might as well have not implemented it. > CB Chris Blouch wrote: > To summarize, there are at least ways, VO-Shift-Space and VO-Shift-M > with context menu navigation. Both work, but somebody just exploring > is not going to discover these easily. Lack of discoverability in many > case equals lack of usability and capability. I'm not clear why the > buy button itself, while visible, is not announced to at least give a > hint. It feels like both VO buy solutions are 'mouse hacks' to > simulate what a visual mouse user would do. At least it's possible, if > not obvious, how to buy a track. > > > One of the other problems with unknown keyboard shortcuts is that they > could have been assigned to other functions when you customize your > shortcuts. > > Command-Shift-B also lets you review individual items in your shopping > cart and buy them, without having to buy everything in the cart or > delete items. > > I'll file this away. (You guys clearly have more money to spend in the > iTunes Store than I do -- I'm just glad that I can practice purchases > on the "free" items). I can't seem to use VO-Shift-Space now to > purchase -- either with single or double-click. The advantage of the > VO-Shift-M is that the same menu choice works with buy or select > podcasts for download. > > Thanks, > > Esther > > On May 11, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > > I thought you just did command-shift-b to buy? > > > > CB > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Can't get to latest messages in thread
I feel like an idiot, but in my thread, help with itunes, there are eight new. And it says messages 1 through 25 of 31. How the heck do I get to those?? There's no next page or anything. Help? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't get to latest messages in thread
Ok I'm going to try command N. I read it online so my inbox doesn't get flooded. I wonder why google groups doesn't havea a next link. Geez. Thanks Esther, you have some really great info. I'm so glad you wrote quickly. Smilie. Randi Esther wrote: > Hi Randi, > > I think you said you read the mail on line, so the answer depends on > what you use to read your mail. But this solution should work for > you. Go to the Mail Archive web site posts: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02242.html > > This was my first post about making a play list using the file > browser. If you're on your Mac, you can read through the thread by > using Control-n to go to the next post in the thread and Control-p to > read the previous post in the thread. If you want to skip through the > next few posts just Control-n as many times as you want. I read this > list on the web at the Mail Archives site when I'm traveling and away > from my computer. This is also where I run searches for old > discussions on the list -- tab to the search box and type a few terms > then press return. This is like running a Google search on the list > archives, and you can navigate through your results with the access > keys. > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On May 11, 2009, at 9:45 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > I feel like an idiot, but in my thread, help with itunes, there are > > eight new. And it says messages 1 through 25 of 31. How the heck do I > > get to those?? There's no next page or anything. Help? > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't get to latest messages in thread
Well, that didn't work. I view the board in Safari. Not in an email program. Control N didn't do anything. I accidentally did command N the first time, and that was good because its a shortcut for opening another browser haha. But, I still can't access the next page of posts in the Help with iTunes thread. Hmmmstrange. rayna424 wrote: > Ok I'm going to try command N. I read it online so my inbox doesn't > get flooded. I wonder why google groups doesn't havea a next link. > Geez. > > Thanks Esther, you have some really great info. I'm so glad you wrote > quickly. Smilie. > Randi > > Esther wrote: > > Hi Randi, > > > > I think you said you read the mail on line, so the answer depends on > > what you use to read your mail. But this solution should work for > > you. Go to the Mail Archive web site posts: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02242.html > > > > This was my first post about making a play list using the file > > browser. If you're on your Mac, you can read through the thread by > > using Control-n to go to the next post in the thread and Control-p to > > read the previous post in the thread. If you want to skip through the > > next few posts just Control-n as many times as you want. I read this > > list on the web at the Mail Archives site when I'm traveling and away > > from my computer. This is also where I run searches for old > > discussions on the list -- tab to the search box and type a few terms > > then press return. This is like running a Google search on the list > > archives, and you can navigate through your results with the access > > keys. > > > > HTH > > > > Cheers, > > > > Esther > > > > On May 11, 2009, at 9:45 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > > > > I feel like an idiot, but in my thread, help with itunes, there are > > > eight new. And it says messages 1 through 25 of 31. How the heck do I > > > get to those?? There's no next page or anything. Help? > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't get to latest messages in thread
Wow ok this is complicated. In the archive view, can you reply? I'll go check it out now. My brain is fried from all the itunes stuff haha. Esther wrote: > Randi, > > On the Google Groups web page try using links chooser menu (Command-U) > and looking for a link called "Newer". VO-Space on that and see > whether that helps. > > Esther > > > On May 11, 2009, at 11:28 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Well, that didn't work. I view the board in Safari. Not in an email > > program. Control N didn't do anything. I accidentally did command N > > the first time, and that was good because its a shortcut for opening > > another browser haha. > > > > But, I still can't access the next page of posts in the Help with > > iTunes thread. Hmmmstrange. > > > > rayna424 wrote: > >> Ok I'm going to try command N. I read it online so my inbox doesn't > >> get flooded. I wonder why google groups doesn't havea a next link. > >> Geez. > >> > >> Thanks Esther, you have some really great info. I'm so glad you wrote > >> quickly. Smilie. > >> Randi > >> > >> Esther wrote: > >>> Hi Randi, > >>> > >>> I think you said you read the mail on line, so the answer depends on > >>> what you use to read your mail. But this solution should work for > >>> you. Go to the Mail Archive web site posts: > >>> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02242.html > >>> > >>> This was my first post about making a play list using the file > >>> browser. If you're on your Mac, you can read through the thread by > >>> using Control-n to go to the next post in the thread and Control-p > >>> to > >>> read the previous post in the thread. If you want to skip through > >>> the > >>> next few posts just Control-n as many times as you want. I read > >>> this > >>> list on the web at the Mail Archives site when I'm traveling and > >>> away > >>> from my computer. This is also where I run searches for old > >>> discussions on the list -- tab to the search box and type a few > >>> terms > >>> then press return. This is like running a Google search on the list > >>> archives, and you can navigate through your results with the access > >>> keys. > >>> > >>> HTH > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Esther > >>> > >>> On May 11, 2009, at 9:45 AM, rayna424 wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I feel like an idiot, but in my thread, help with itunes, there are > >>>> eight new. And it says messages 1 through 25 of 31. How the heck > >>>> do I > >>>> get to those?? There's no next page or anything. Help? > >>>>> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't get to latest messages in thread
Ok found your post using that archive thing. I like reading it here because I can forward messages I want to my inbox. Here, meaning online Google group. I wonder if there's a way of letting someone know that once a ghread count increases 25, the rest of the messages aren't shown on the Google group. Odd indeed haha. Maybe I'm the only one who likes reading online at the google group. Thanks Esther! I figured out all the playlist stuff, but your tip about moving multiple songs will be helpful, for sure. Smilie. Randi Esther wrote: > Hi Randi, > > You mean you tried to view the Google Groups web site for this list. > I suggested viewing the Mail Archive site that archives this list's > post instead. Mail Archive has access key support. Google Groups > does not. Mail Archive is easier to search -- I can search for list > content faster on that site than I can on my own MacBook. > > What I meant is that you should choose the URL link for one of these > posts in the mail archive site and navigate from there. > > Here's the main page: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/ > > If you click on that link you'll get a list of links to all posts in > threaded format. It's much easier if you start at the following > page, which is in the middle of your thread asking for help about > iTunes playlists: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02256.html > (Making Playlists [was Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with > iTunes]) > > Once you're on that mail archive page with the info about making > playlists, you can read the next post in the thread by pressing > Control-n in Safari and read down the thread. There's nothing like > this at Google Groups. I find the search functions at the Mail > Archive site for this list a lot easier to use, too. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > P.S. I'll take a look at the Google Groups web site to see how to > expand the next items, but the Mail Archive is really much easier to > navigate. > > > On May 11, 2009, at 11:28 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Well, that didn't work. I view the board in Safari. Not in an email > > program. Control N didn't do anything. I accidentally did command N > > the first time, and that was good because its a shortcut for opening > > another browser haha. > > > > But, I still can't access the next page of posts in the Help with > > iTunes thread. Hmmmstrange. > > > > rayna424 wrote: > >> Ok I'm going to try command N. I read it online so my inbox doesn't > >> get flooded. I wonder why google groups doesn't havea a next link. > >> Geez. > >> > >> Thanks Esther, you have some really great info. I'm so glad you wrote > >> quickly. Smilie. > >> Randi > >> > >> Esther wrote: > >>> Hi Randi, > >>> > >>> I think you said you read the mail on line, so the answer depends on > >>> what you use to read your mail. But this solution should work for > >>> you. Go to the Mail Archive web site posts: > >>> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02242.html > >>> > >>> This was my first post about making a play list using the file > >>> browser. If you're on your Mac, you can read through the thread by > >>> using Control-n to go to the next post in the thread and Control-p > >>> to > >>> read the previous post in the thread. If you want to skip through > >>> the > >>> next few posts just Control-n as many times as you want. I read > >>> this > >>> list on the web at the Mail Archives site when I'm traveling and > >>> away > >>> from my computer. This is also where I run searches for old > >>> discussions on the list -- tab to the search box and type a few > >>> terms > >>> then press return. This is like running a Google search on the list > >>> archives, and you can navigate through your results with the access > >>> keys. > >>> > >>> HTH > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Esther > >>> > >>> On May 11, 2009, at 9:45 AM, rayna424 wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I feel like an idiot, but in my thread, help with itunes, there are > >>>> eight new. And it says messages 1 through 25 of 31. How the heck > >>>> do I > >>>> get to those?? There's no next page or anything. Help? > >>>>> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't get to latest messages in thread
Hi Dan, I've had several people suggest this. I used gmail when I could see, so I'm pretty used to it. I'm getting inrigued though. Do you know if the mail program shows the messages the same way web based does? In the web based, the messages appear in conversations, so they're all grouped together. I like that. I do like the fact that the mail program notifies of new emails. Gmail has a notifier, but I don't know if it would work with Voiceover. Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Hi Randi, why not set up your gmail account in Apple mail? If you're > using a gmail account that is? Gmail works nicely with mail, and it's > a lot easier than having to deal with the webmail. It's your > preference and choice of course, but I'm just saying that in my > opinion it'd be a lot easier to just set up your gmail account in Mail. > On May 11, 2009, at 7:48 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > Ok found your post using that archive thing. I like reading it here > because I can forward messages I want to my inbox. Here, meaning > online Google group. I wonder if there's a way of letting someone know > that once a ghread count increases 25, the rest of the messages aren't > shown on the Google group. > > Odd indeed haha. Maybe I'm the only one who likes reading online at > the google group. > > Thanks Esther! I figured out all the playlist stuff, but your tip > about moving multiple songs will be helpful, for sure. Smilie. > Randi > > Esther wrote: > > Hi Randi, > > > > You mean you tried to view the Google Groups web site for this list. > > I suggested viewing the Mail Archive site that archives this list's > > post instead. Mail Archive has access key support. Google Groups > > does not. Mail Archive is easier to search -- I can search for list > > content faster on that site than I can on my own MacBook. > > > > What I meant is that you should choose the URL link for one of these > > posts in the mail archive site and navigate from there. > > > > Here's the main page: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/ > > > > If you click on that link you'll get a list of links to all posts in > > threaded format. It's much easier if you start at the following > > page, which is in the middle of your thread asking for help about > > iTunes playlists: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02256.html > > (Making Playlists [was Re: More Help with iTuenes, was, Help with > > iTunes]) > > > > Once you're on that mail archive page with the info about making > > playlists, you can read the next post in the thread by pressing > > Control-n in Safari and read down the thread. There's nothing like > > this at Google Groups. I find the search functions at the Mail > > Archive site for this list a lot easier to use, too. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Esther > > > > P.S. I'll take a look at the Google Groups web site to see how to > > expand the next items, but the Mail Archive is really much easier to > > navigate. > > > > > > On May 11, 2009, at 11:28 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > >> > >> Well, that didn't work. I view the board in Safari. Not in an email > >> program. Control N didn't do anything. I accidentally did command N > >> the first time, and that was good because its a shortcut for opening > >> another browser haha. > >> > >> But, I still can't access the next page of posts in the Help with > >> iTunes thread. Hmmmstrange. > >> > >> rayna424 wrote: > >>> Ok I'm going to try command N. I read it online so my inbox doesn't > >>> get flooded. I wonder why google groups doesn't havea a next link. > >>> Geez. > >>> > >>> Thanks Esther, you have some really great info. I'm so glad you > >>> wrote > >>> quickly. Smilie. > >>> Randi > >>> > >>> Esther wrote: > >>>> Hi Randi, > >>>> > >>>> I think you said you read the mail on line, so the answer depends > >>>> on > >>>> what you use to read your mail. But this solution should work for > >>>> you. Go to the Mail Archive web site posts: > >>>> > >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02242.html > >>>> > >>>> This was my first post about making a play list using the file > >>>> browser. If you&#
Ghost in my Mail program? This is odd.
Hi all. I was intrigued with the mail program, so I was going to import my gmail pop address into it, and play with it while still keeping it online too. I opened up mail, and everything I've ever sent or received was in there, for my current gmail address. thi is odd, because when I bought the computer, I had a different email address that I gave them at the store. But I couldn't remember the password for it, so I set up my current one, but never did anything with the mail program. So how, on earth, did Mail know what my gmail account is, if I never told it? I'm not complaining, because now I get a sound for new emails. I'm still primarily using web based because I've got to learn the mail program. But since I finally figured out link chooser, that is easier. Does anyone know what ghost talked to my mail program? Also, does anyone have a link to a tutorial on the mail program? I've got some message windows open that I don't know how to close lol. Quitting the program doesn't close the windows. Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ghost in my Mail program? This is odd.
Ok great, I will use Command W. As far as the ghost, mail didn't have anything from my old gmail, and my new gmail never talked to my old one. I know I never told mail to talk to gmail, so I have no idea how this happened. I wanted to do the pop thing myself haha. I think I'll call Apple and ask them. I think I'll like mail too, but for right now I'm not quite understanding it.There aren't buttons for send and stuff, so I assume I need ommands. I'm sure I'll learn it quickly. Thanks, Randi Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Not sure how that could've happen, maybe you'd set this gmail address > to forward to that old address as well? But anyway, If you want to > close windows in any app, mail included, rahter than just closing the > entire application, command W is the keystroke you want. Mail is > awesome, and I think you'll like it. > On May 17, 2009, at 11:01 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > Hi all. I was intrigued with the mail program, so I was going to > import my gmail pop address into it, and play with it while still > keeping it online too. I opened up mail, and everything I've ever sent > or received was in there, for my current gmail address. thi is odd, > because when I bought the computer, I had a different email address > that I gave them at the store. But I couldn't remember the password > for it, so I set up my current one, but never did anything with the > mail program. So how, on earth, did Mail know what my gmail account > is, if I never told it? I'm not complaining, because now I get a sound > for new emails. I'm still primarily using web based because I've got > to learn the mail program. But since I finally figured out link > chooser, that is easier. Does anyone know what ghost talked to my mail > program? Also, does anyone have a link to a tutorial on the mail > program? I've got some message windows open that I don't know how to > close lol. Quitting the program doesn't close the windows. > > Thanks, > Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ghost in my Mail program? This is odd.
Oh I know what I did, my phone has a QWERTY keyboard, and the 5 key corresponds with the D, so the D has a bump, like the F on my Mac, so I did the reply command wrong, pressing F, instead of D. Much easier to use the shortcuts to send then find the menu. I think I do like the mail program, especially the message contents scroll area reading the whole message. Sweet. I'm so glad so many of you suggested the mail program. Thanks, Randi rayna424 wrote: > I think I must have that mac account or something then, because I've > got both the mail program and the webbased active. I just don't know > how it happened. > > I found command shift D in the menus, but it didn't work. I might have > had the wrong keys, who knows. I'm going to practice with it more > before going life with it. Cool, thanks guys. > > Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Ah to send a message, the command you want is command shift d. I find > > that going through the menus of an application helps me to pick up > > these shortcut keys. If a menu item has one, Voiceover will tell you > > if there is a hotkey for the option your on. > > On May 17, 2009, at 9:27 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > > Ok great, I will use Command W. As far as the ghost, mail didn't have > > anything from my old gmail, and my new gmail never talked to my old > > one. I know I never told mail to talk to gmail, so I have no idea how > > this happened. I wanted to do the pop thing myself haha. I think I'll > > call Apple and ask them. I think I'll like mail too, but for right now > > I'm not quite understanding it.There aren't buttons for send and > > stuff, so I assume I need ommands. I'm sure I'll learn it quickly. > > > > Thanks, > > Randi > > > > Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > > Not sure how that could've happen, maybe you'd set this gmail address > > > to forward to that old address as well? But anyway, If you want to > > > close windows in any app, mail included, rahter than just closing the > > > entire application, command W is the keystroke you want. Mail is > > > awesome, and I think you'll like it. > > > On May 17, 2009, at 11:01 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all. I was intrigued with the mail program, so I was going to > > > import my gmail pop address into it, and play with it while still > > > keeping it online too. I opened up mail, and everything I've ever sent > > > or received was in there, for my current gmail address. thi is odd, > > > because when I bought the computer, I had a different email address > > > that I gave them at the store. But I couldn't remember the password > > > for it, so I set up my current one, but never did anything with the > > > mail program. So how, on earth, did Mail know what my gmail account > > > is, if I never told it? I'm not complaining, because now I get a sound > > > for new emails. I'm still primarily using web based because I've got > > > to learn the mail program. But since I finally figured out link > > > chooser, that is easier. Does anyone know what ghost talked to my mail > > > program? Also, does anyone have a link to a tutorial on the mail > > > program? I've got some message windows open that I don't know how to > > > close lol. Quitting the program doesn't close the windows. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ghost in my Mail program? This is odd.
I think I must have that mac account or something then, because I've got both the mail program and the webbased active. I just don't know how it happened. I found command shift D in the menus, but it didn't work. I might have had the wrong keys, who knows. I'm going to practice with it more before going life with it. Cool, thanks guys. Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Ah to send a message, the command you want is command shift d. I find > that going through the menus of an application helps me to pick up > these shortcut keys. If a menu item has one, Voiceover will tell you > if there is a hotkey for the option your on. > On May 17, 2009, at 9:27 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > Ok great, I will use Command W. As far as the ghost, mail didn't have > anything from my old gmail, and my new gmail never talked to my old > one. I know I never told mail to talk to gmail, so I have no idea how > this happened. I wanted to do the pop thing myself haha. I think I'll > call Apple and ask them. I think I'll like mail too, but for right now > I'm not quite understanding it.There aren't buttons for send and > stuff, so I assume I need ommands. I'm sure I'll learn it quickly. > > Thanks, > Randi > > Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Not sure how that could've happen, maybe you'd set this gmail address > > to forward to that old address as well? But anyway, If you want to > > close windows in any app, mail included, rahter than just closing the > > entire application, command W is the keystroke you want. Mail is > > awesome, and I think you'll like it. > > On May 17, 2009, at 11:01 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > > Hi all. I was intrigued with the mail program, so I was going to > > import my gmail pop address into it, and play with it while still > > keeping it online too. I opened up mail, and everything I've ever sent > > or received was in there, for my current gmail address. thi is odd, > > because when I bought the computer, I had a different email address > > that I gave them at the store. But I couldn't remember the password > > for it, so I set up my current one, but never did anything with the > > mail program. So how, on earth, did Mail know what my gmail account > > is, if I never told it? I'm not complaining, because now I get a sound > > for new emails. I'm still primarily using web based because I've got > > to learn the mail program. But since I finally figured out link > > chooser, that is easier. Does anyone know what ghost talked to my mail > > program? Also, does anyone have a link to a tutorial on the mail > > program? I've got some message windows open that I don't know how to > > close lol. Quitting the program doesn't close the windows. > > > > Thanks, > > Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Adding e-mail addresses in address book?
Excellent. I was popping in to ask this very question, and here it was. I haven't really had to worry about it too much, because in typing an address or name, it auto fills, but only if I've previously written the person. I spent about an hour trying to find a way to add a friend's address and finally just stuck it in a blank field to keep it. This helps a lot. Thanks guys! Randi Esther wrote: > Hi Arthur and Dan, > > Dan has answered the main question by pointing out that you can use VO- > H to get information on the fields in an address book, but here are a > few other tips. Take a look at the notes about Address Book at Tim > Kilburn's web site for VoiceOver: > > http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/addressbook.html > > Although these notes were written for Tiger, they generally apply to > Leopard, as well, and provide a useful overview. > > If you're creating new entries in your address book, there's an "Add > Sender to Address Book" option under mail (Command-Shift-Y) that will > add the name and email address from the message you're currently > reading to your address book. If you look under the "Window" menu of > your mail menu bar (VO-M to menu bar, press "w" to go to "Window" and > arrow down), you'll find an "Address Panel" with shortcut Command- > Option-A and a "Previous Recipients". The Command-Option-A shortcut > toggles on or off the "Address Panel", which is an abbreviated form of > your Address Book for use in mail that will allow you to check that > email addresses have been added. The "Previous Recipients" option > brings up a list of the names and addresses of people you have sent > email to. You can select entries in the table and use the "Add to > Address Book" button, or you can delete entries. Command-W to close > windows when done. > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On May 24, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > > > > Hi Arthur, there is certainly a field there for email, but it's not > > really labeled well. And those pop-up buttons are to select home, > > work, etc. Those edit fields that aren't labeled, do have VO help > > tags though, so you can use VO H to tell what they are. I found this > > to be a little tricky and confusing at first too, but I've got it > > now. Hope this helps you. Why Apple hasn't fully labeled those > > fields, I'm not sure. I hope they're aware of that, and will fix that > > in a future update to the Address book application.Maybe in Snow > > Leopard? . > > On May 25, 2009, at 2:14 AM, Arthur Pirika wrote: > > > >> > >> hi, the subject pretty much says it all. When i go to add > >> addresses, I > >> interact with thhe scroll area for a card, and can see first > >> name, last > >> name, company, etc, and a bunch of popup buttons. But no field for e- > >> mail. > >> What do i do to add the field? > >> > >> thanks, > >> Arthur. > >> > >> > >>> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Yes, another iTunes/iPod question
Hi all, I had an iPod first, before i got the Mac and figured out iTunes. My friend had put a bunch of stuff on the iPod that I don't want to lose. How can I hook it up to my Mac and start puting stuff on it, without loosing whats on it? I'd like to import what is on it as well. A friend said there is some program you can get, to do this so that when it syncs, there is no loss. Any suggestions? Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yes, another iTunes/iPod question
Hmmm, don't know the program? So this does exist though. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, Randi Alex Jurgensen wrote: > Hi, > > There is a program to copy stuff off the IPod. Do this and then add > the stuff to your ITunes Library. Then sync it. > > Sorry I can't be of more help. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 29-May-09, at 3:36 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I had an iPod first, before i got the Mac and figured out iTunes. My > > friend had put a bunch of stuff on the iPod that I don't want to > > lose. How can I hook it up to my Mac and start puting stuff on it, > > without loosing whats on it? I'd like to import what is on it as well. > > A friend said there is some program you can get, to do this so that > > when it syncs, there is no loss. Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks, > > Randi > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Snow Leopard pre-order
Hi all, I just received an email from amazon telling me I can pre-order Snow Leopard for $29. I didn't know we were so close to getting it! I am going to pre-order, and I have a question. I haven't upgraded an OS yet. Is this something I will be able to do on my own? How does it work? When I go to install, will VO work to tell me what is happening? Any pointers from those who have done an upgrade will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Rayna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
Oh dear, lol! Ok, I've never upgraded an OS, period, ever. I was a Windows user before I went blind, but I just bought new computers. I switched to Mac when I went blind, so this is all new to me. Hold down the C key when booting? So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on? This outta be interesting haha. Well now that I know I can do it, I'll go ahead and preorder. I'll cross the installation bridge when I come to it. ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
Ok yes, that helps. I think I understand about holding down C, but didn't know why it couldn't be done just like any other program. In doing this, does VO work the whole time then? I think I did actually upgrade a Windows machine once, and when I did that I just inserted the cd. I had forgotten about that. I know I know, forget everything I knew about Windows though ;) Thanks all! Are you all planning to upgrade immediately, or do you wait to see how it works out? Kieren wrote: > On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 wrote: > > So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on? > > Yes you can do exactly that. once the dvd is inserted and mounted it > will open a window > which has an icon "install OS X" open this and you will be asked for > your > administrators password. Enter it and hit ok and your mac will > restart and boot from > the dvd without user intervention. > > Just a quick note on the install side of things too. > You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer > drivers you dont have and > also languages you dont need as well. > > this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think > just before or during the choice of install location. > > HTH > > Kieren --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
Gotcha, so whichever option I pick, I wait until the dvd stops spinning, and turn on VO. Then I can go through the setup with VO. Sweet, I think I got it! Thanks everyone! Dan wrote: > Hello, > No matter which way you run the DVD, you still have to manually start > VO after the OS boots. > On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Ok yes, that helps. I think I understand about holding down C, but > > didn't know why it couldn't be done just like any other program. In > > doing this, does VO work the whole time then? I think I did actually > > upgrade a Windows machine once, and when I did that I just inserted > > the cd. I had forgotten about that. I know I know, forget everything I > > knew about Windows though ;) > > > > > > Thanks all! Are you all planning to upgrade immediately, or do you > > wait to see how it works out? > > > > Kieren wrote: > >> On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 wrote: > >>> So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on? > >> > >> Yes you can do exactly that. once the dvd is inserted and mounted it > >> will open a window > >> which has an icon "install OS X" open this and you will be asked for > >> your > >> administrators password. Enter it and hit ok and your mac will > >> restart and boot from > >> the dvd without user intervention. > >> > >> Just a quick note on the install side of things too. > >> You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer > >> drivers you dont have and > >> also languages you dont need as well. > >> > >> this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think > >> just before or during the choice of install location. > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Kieren > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Group mode? safeway.com, Facebook?
Hi all, A few months back, someone suggested group mode to navigate sites like Facebook. I was too scared to try it. Now I'm ready. I use m.facebook.com but its so limited. I also just signed up for home grocery delivery at safeway.com, but I have to use the accessible site, because VO just wouldn't handle the frames. Does anyone use safeway.com for home delivery? And, can you guys tell me more about group mode, how to get into it, how its different? Thanks a million! Rayna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: waiting for my macbook
Hi there, I don't know if you have used a Mac before or if this is your first, so just in case you haven't, I'll explain that way. The Apple key is the Command key, located to the left of the space bar. With the Macbook, you'll need to use Function as well. So to turn on Voiceover after the computer starts up, press Command plus Function, plus F5. The function key is the key on the bottom left corner, 2 keys over from your command key. You will hear "Voiceover on". It's already read to go, no installation of the screenreader necessary. HTH, Rayna Roberto Burceni wrote: > Hi all, finally I decided to buy a macbook pro 13.3 inces. I'm waiting > it comes here. I have a question for you: > When I will turn on the mac can I start immediately voiceover or not? > nfigured or I need to put the dvd into reader? > The system is already configured or I need the dvd? > Thank you for help --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: google voice problem resolved
This isn't directly related to Google talk or whatever, but in response to not finding the continue button. I had this problem on mlb.com, trying to sign in to use Gameday audio. There was no 'continue" or "submit" button anywhere and I even called customer service. She could see the button, my boyfriend could see it, but VO did not. Finally I just entered the information and hit return and voila. it worked. There is no need on mlb.com anyway to find the submit button, because just hitting return works fine. Maybe that would work with this too? Just a thought. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
To those who use Group Mode please
Hi all, I had an earlier thread about group mode, asking exactly what its for, what things change when you use it, and how to turn it on. The only thing discussed was if there would be a short cut to this in SL. So, if you use group mode, and you respond? I'm afraid to switch to it if there are a lot of changes causing me not to get back to the original mode. Any experience with group mode is appreciated, and/or links to articles about it. I'd really appreciate it... Thanks, Rayna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: To those who use Group Mode please
Oooh gotcha, ok, so group mode is just for web browsing then? I was afraid it would change VO or something. Thank you thank you thank you!!! Barry Hadder wrote: > Open Voiceover utility with VO-f8, arrow down until you hear web in > the categories, tab, change the radio button from dom to group. > > Items on a web page are grouped together in several groups. You don't > have to move through each item at a time. If you don't like it, you > can change it back. > > On Aug 6, 2009, at 6:48 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I had an earlier thread about group mode, asking exactly what its for, > > what things change when you use it, and how to turn it on. The only > > thing discussed was if there would be a short cut to this in SL. > > > > So, if you use group mode, and you respond? I'm afraid to switch to it > > if there are a lot of changes causing me not to get back to the > > original mode. Any experience with group mode is appreciated, and/or > > links to articles about it. I'd really appreciate it... > > > > Thanks, > > Rayna > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: when closing lid
This is odd...I have about 9 bump dots on my keys and this never happens to me. However, I got in the habit of putting it to sleep before shutting the lid...I just hit the power button once quickly and then select "sleep". It sleeps and then I close the lid. I don't think this would make a difference though...again, strange. some of my dots are kinda tall, but they never interfere with sleeping. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari Sounds
Yes yes yes. I have been noticing this as of late. Its not with any specific web page. It seems to happen at random. I'm so used to hearing the page load sound, that I don't hear it and think my internet is being slow. I just now turned on group mode to play with it, and its not playing loading sounds it all, it seems. You are not the only one noticing this. Rayna Barry Hadder wrote: > I'm just wondering if anybody else has noticed that in many instances > the page load sound doesn't occur. An example is www.lioncourt.com. > I think it's more tied to VO as the status text under the VO cursor > doesn't seem to update while a page is loading, but when I place the > mouse over it, I see that it is. > > Aside from the fact that it is a little bit of a nuisance, my main > concern is whether or not the page is loading correctly. It has > seemed to me that group mode has been much more inconsistent as of > late. Of course, it's good that it isn't crashing all the time. > > I would appreciate any comments or solutions. > > Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: prices gone up
How much are they now? I'm still seeing 0.99 and 1.29 per song. Are they more than that in the UK? william lomas wrote: > ah damn the prices per song now are way to expensive now forget it lol > > On 6 Aug 2009, at 13:53, Chris Hofstader wrote: > > > > > When iTunes dropped DRM, they let the copyright holders pick prices > > for songs and albums so they will probably not all be the same > > anymore. > > On Aug 6, 2009, at 7:48 AM, william lomas wrote: > > > >> > >>hi why have the itunes prices for single tracks gone up in the UK? > >> any ideas? > >> > >> > >>> > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: how do I deleete book marks with vo?
I just tried this, as I've been wondering how to do this myself. I brought up the window, interacted with the first table. There are 2 unlabeled tables. I arrowed to bookmarks menu and stopped interacting. I went to the second unlabeled table but its blank. Its not pulling up my bookmarks menu. Any thingts? Chris Blouch wrote: > You can just hit option-command-b to bring up all your bookmarks (an > application shortcut, not VO specific). From there you can go through > the left nav to pick either the bookmarks bar or menu. After that > navigate right and down to the list of boomarks, interact with that and > find the bookmark you want to delete and hit the delete key. > > CB > > hank smith wrote: > > hello how do I deleete book marks with vo? am using latest version of > > safari > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Getting songs off an iPod
Hi all, I was given an iPod Nano before I got my Macbook. I haven't done anything with it because i don't want to lose what's on it. I want to put the songs on it int my iTunes library. I've heard you need skip for mac or something or other to do this. I also don't want it to delete everything if I hook it up. I've turned off auto sinc in iTunes. I'd like to start using the iPod, keep whats on it, add to it, put whats on it into mylibrary. Any suggestions? Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: how do I deleete book marks with vo?
How did you do that? It didn't work for me...what am I doing wrong? hank smith wrote: > thanks > > that did the trick > On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:24 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > > > > You can just hit option-command-b to bring up all your bookmarks (an > > application shortcut, not VO specific). From there you can go through > > the left nav to pick either the bookmarks bar or menu. After that > > navigate right and down to the list of boomarks, interact with that > > and > > find the bookmark you want to delete and hit the delete key. > > > > CB > > > > hank smith wrote: > >> hello how do I deleete book marks with vo? am using latest version of > >> safari > >> > >>> > >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Victor Reader and really really need help with iPod
Hi all, Quick question on Victor Reader...is it compatible with Mac? On iPod, I got a nano before my macbook. I hooked it up, had auto sync off, so didn't lose whats on it. But I can't do anything with it aside from listen. If I try to add anything, I'll lose whats on it. Also, I need to change the voice but can't find where to do that. Also, it keeps saying there are updates for the iPod, but when I select update, it freezes and does nothing. Do I just need another iPod? Am I out of luck with this one, since my friend did stuff to it on his Mac? Help? Please? Oh and do you know how to import the stuff from the pod to iTunes? I selected that, and it said there was trouble with some of it, but that it imported some of it. I'm so confused... Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Victor Reader and really really need help with iPod
Hi oh and thank you!! Ok, I have selected manually manage music, did that a few days ago. So, if I sync though, to add stuff, will I lose whats on it? How do I add stuff to it? I've never used an ipod before. I can locate it just fine, and have the manually manage music selected. Where do I go from here? Is there anyway to see whats on the iPod and delete stuff at all? I can't seem to do that. There's some stuff on there I don't want to keep on it. As for the update, its good to know it took awhile and that you didn't know if anything was happening. It just says status or something, but doesn't say anything. I'll try updating it too. Can you just walk me through how to add a playlist or podcasts to it without losing whats on it? Thank you thank you! And thanks for the info on Victor; I saw it today at the center and fell in absolute and total love! Thanks, Randi Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > Hi Randy, > > If you check Manually Manage Music on the iPod Summary tab, you can > add music to it without losing what's already on it. Connect the iPod, > focus on its name in the Sources table, then VO-Right Arrow to iPod > SEttings and make sure Summary is selected to get to this option. > > There is no way using iTunes to import music from an iPod to iTunes. I > know there are Windows programs that can do this, but don't know if > there are Mac equivalents. > > I'm not sure why you can't download the update. It did take a while > when I did it and I wasn't sure whether anything was happening, but it > worked in the end. > > As for the Victor Stream, the Mac treats it as an external disk and > works fine with it. I can't get it to work in Windows on my Mac, > however (I run Windows via VMWare Fusion). > > HTH, > Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Victor Reader and really really need help with iPod
Hi and thanks so much, both of you. Ok so, I was playing around last night waiting for replies haha, and managed to find how to change the voice, but the rate doesn't seem to change. I can live with that. I gound the list on the ipod thanks to your reply. My problem now is that I'm stuck with what ou mean about when focused on the music, and then VO right to auto fill or something? That this will let me to copy to iPod? I'm not getting that...I think I'll end up copying from the songs table, because that seems easiest. But, how can I copy more than one song at a time? So, in the songs table, how can I select more than one song to copy? I think I'm getting closer :) I think once I figure out how to copy playlists or multiple songs, I've got it. For example, I've got a playlist called "girls". So, how do I copy the whole playlist? That is where I'm confused. Woody Anna Dresner wrote: > Hi Randi, > > To see what's on your iPod, focus on its name in the Sources table and > type VO-Backslash to expand it. Then as you move down, you will come > to categories such as Music and Audiobooks. When focused on one of > these, stop interacting with the Sources table and move with VO-Right > Arrow to the Songs table. All your music is listed there if you > selected music in the Sources table; the same goes for the other > categories. You can narrow your search either by typing something in > the search box, such as an artist, album name or track name, or you > can turn on the Playlists browser with Command-B. This lets you browse > by genre, artist or album. > > When you're focused on Music in the Sources table, if you keep moving > with VO-Right Arrow, you come to the Autofill options. These let you > put all the contents of the playlist you select into your iPod. Note > that this copies the music in the playlist but not the playlist name. > > You can also select a single track or group of tracks, type Command-C, > then focus on your iPod's name in the Sources table and type Command-V > to paste your selection to the iPod. > > I hope this makes sense. > > You might be interested in a book I wrote a few months ago called > Using the Accessible iPod. It was written before I had a Mac, so the > iTunes commands are for Windows, but itunes isn't that different > between the two if you know how to navigate on a Mac. The book > describes how to get music into iTunes, how to set up your iPod > (fourth generation iPod Nano or any iPod Shuffle), how to get music > and podcasts onto it, and which menu options are accessible and how to > use them. It's available in a variety of formats from National Braille > Press and costs $15. YOu can learn more at > http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/ACCIPOD.html > > Good luck, > Anna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Victor Reader and really really need help with iPod
Anna, I just love you! You've done it! Thank you thank you thank you I'm autofilling my stuff as we speak and its appearing on the iPod!!! Wooo h! Hugs hugs thank you thank you!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Victor Reader and really really need help with iPod
I've completely filled my Nano now, got it all, my music, my books and podcasts!! Yay! I'm oh so happy!! Thanks again for all the help! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Braile labels and the disk drive
Hi all, Does anyone label discs with a braille labeler? I'm wondering if the lible impedes the disk in the disk drive, since its so slim. Any experience? Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Braile labels and the disk drive
Wow am I glad I asked this question haha! On another email list, we were discussing the labelers, and someone mentioned needing to label a bunch of cds. I had decided to use a cd book to store my back up disks, and just label the sleaves, but thought I'd ask about the cds themselves. Very glad I asked the experts first!! Thanks guys! Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Creating a smart playlist in iTunes - I don't get it
Hi everyone, I know I'm asking lots of iTunes/iPod questions, but I get the most useful information from ya'll, so I've just given up searches. I don't understand this smart playlist thing. I click create playlist and it asks me for all these guidlines, but no matter what I pick, it says something like, this will never work, haha. I'd love to just be able to click a button and have an interesting playlist created...does anyone have any tips? Thanks! Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Creating a smart playlist in iTunes - I don't get it
Hi ladies, Ok, this is helpful. But, my dad had seaid something about creating a playlist with all songs beginning with "T" or the like. I thought it would be fun to create a playlist with all number 4 tracks...just to see what comes up, what gets combined. I don't necessarily want the same genre or artist, ya know? So I still can't see how to do this. All these fields are just confusing...I think I need to play with it, but it never seems to like the rules I try to assign...Esther, your post is great, so detailed. I just feel like I'm learning a new kind of math ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Creating a smart playlist in iTunes - I don't get it
Nice, got my 4 playlist ;) I think my main issue with all this is not knowing what all the rules mean, what all the options mean, you know? Plus, I wasn't just making the rules, stopping interaction, and hitting enter. I thought I had to figure out all these things...so now I think I can play with it, yay!!! Thanks Esther!!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to Shuffle within Playlists [was Re: Creating a smart playlist in iTunes - I don't get it]
I agree, thats why I bring my questions here rather than trying to search for answers. Everyone here is so knowledgeable and actually uses it all. I just have to comment on Brahms and MandM haha, that is too funny. As I write this, I'm listening to all my track 4's, and I had Alice and Chains, and then Phantom of the Opera, and now Hooked on a Feeling...going from Think of Me to Hooka chaka hooka hookatee hee. Thanks for all the help everyone!!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: say it's not so apple
Wow, yeah I seriously doubt that Apple would force us to use something. This reminds me of having the option of doing group or dom mode. It'll probably be a setting in the internet area. But, this is why I'm going to wait to by SL until I see what others say. I'm terrified of it working totally differently and having to relearn it all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Question about reading this group on web only
Hi all, I choose to read this board on the web only, so my email isn't clogged, and because I don't read every topic. It becomes difficult to find a topic I've posted in, because it doesn't seem to keep messages on top in accordance to replies. I tried "clicking the star to watch topic", hoping it would keep watched messages on top, but it doesn't seem to do anything. Does anyone have any suggestions for easier access? Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New Os or not?
I too, am nervous. Especially since VO is my first screenreader, and it took awhile to learn it. I never buy tech toys when they're brand new; I usually wait to see what others think. I think I'll do this with SL too, just to kind of have some info before I take the plunge. It was discussed earlier, and it sounds like VO will run right from the start, to walk us through set up. Scary though :) Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Your opinions on Snow Leopard
Hi all, I am terrified of upgrading. My Macbook is my first experience with a screeneader, and I've taught myself by trial and error and by reading this board. I would like your opinions before I upgrade. Have the commands changed? Is it still basically the same with some new funtions? Will I be totally lost? Have you run into any annoying problems? Are you able to do everything you did before? Was the installation fairly easy? I would really like your help in easing my fears. Apple and VO have brought the internet and technology back to me since losing my vision, and I'm terribly afraid of change... Thanks, Randi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
